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Ken Griffey Jr. Is Retiring

That's the word from Ryan Divish. Drayer says the same.

I uh. I don't have anything to say at the moment.

Update: a statement.

"I'm extremely thankful to have played so long. I'd like to thank my family for all the sacrifices they've made all these years. And I'd like to thank the Seattle Mariners for allowing me to finish my career where it started."

"I told the Mariners when we met before the season, that I would never allow myself to be a distraction. My hope is that my teammates can win a championship for themselves and for deserving Seattle fans. I'd like to thank everyone who played a role in my career."

Matthew: I do. First of all, this is confirmed. Secondly, let it be known that I beat Jeff to this post by a full minute. Also, I think this is better than regular news. It appears that the press conference is ongoing or imminent. Griffey didn't report to the park today and so this might be it. Given the choice between what was the status quo and this, I favor this.

Do not interpret what I am about to say as anything negating that previous sentence. I would have preferred it if the fans, especially the ones who stuck behind Griffey, have gotten some chance to officially say goodbye. That never seemed Griffey's way, but I was hoping that he would put those feelings aside and do something for the fans. Alas, that is not to be.

Also, I have no problem with Griffey being part of the team in some role. Given his stated influence on certain players, and the local media and crowds still, I would be happy if he (had) stuck around. Just not on the 25-man roster. That was why I was such a big advocate of a 60-day disabled list stint. He could have hung around the clubhouse still and come back off the list in September when the rosters expanded and his spot wouldn't be at the expense of anyone. Alas, that is not to be either.

It's too bad it ends this way, but at least it's over. 

Update: here's the full statement.

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Not sad.

It’s good to see him bow out before it got even more embarrasing. I wish he could have hit a walk-off or something the night before though.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Jun 2, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

For what it's worth:

This post has been updated now with some comments.

by Matthew on Jun 2, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, damn

If you two hadn’t already put something up I was going to.

"Most all good Americans hate the Yankees. It is a value we cherish and pass on to our children like decency and democracy and the importance of a good breakfast." - William B. Mead

by Steve Nelson on Jun 2, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

YAY!!

Thanks for everything, Junior, but YAY!

by tait644 on Jun 2, 2010 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Ohmygodohmygodohmygodpleasepleasepleasepleaseplease be true.

I can't resist clicking "Rec" when I see a post with four [of them] already.

by thehemogoblin on Jun 2, 2010 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

OH MY GOD PLEASE DON'T BE A HOAX

"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."

by Fearless Frog on Jun 2, 2010 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

We were all clamoring for it to happen...

… but it sucks a TINY bit to hear it for real. It was obvious that he was FAR past done… but no sendoff? Great news, but Griffey is done. Forever. Hopefully people can remember him for his wonderful career and not his horrible last couple years with the M’s.

by Mataya on Jun 2, 2010 4:40 PM PDT reply actions  

He wasn't even that bad last year.

Or at least, not as painfully excruciating as he was this year. Not even a token homer, damn.

"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."

by Fearless Frog on Jun 2, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

:(

Wish it would of worked out better for you in 2010 Junior, we still love you and THANK YOU! (for being a great player and retiring).

by MFAN on Jun 2, 2010 4:40 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Should have left after last year. He finished the last couple weeks strong and was

carried off the field by his teammates.

This year was an utter disaster for him.

by Rudy4three on Jun 2, 2010 4:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Now I can say it without a sense of conflict:

Jr. thank you so much for all the wonderful memories you gave me and so many others. You play brought myself and countless others joy. Enjoy your time with your family and you can expect rousing ovations anytime you want to come back and say hi.

by TheBishop on Jun 2, 2010 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm sortof in this boat myself

I was probably one of the biggest “throw Griffey overboard” advocates while he was still helping drag down the team; but now I can wish him well in his retirement.

by Jeff Nye on Jun 2, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was one of these too. I wish him the best in his retirement. You were an amazing player.

My family is now grateful that I won’t say “Retire your fat ass already”, as I was doing every time he came up to bat this past year.

by TrustBaseball on Jun 2, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

My dad never really got it. He still saw 1990s Griffey in the batter's box.

So, Griffey and Milton Bradley were our two main points of contention this year.

I can't resist clicking "Rec" when I see a post with four [of them] already.

by thehemogoblin on Jun 2, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't think you'd do it

but thanks for taking the Mike Schmidt route instead of prolonging this.

by BrianL on Jun 2, 2010 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

It may be something that needed to happen

But, this is a sad day as well. Thanks for all the memories, Junior.

by Coug1990 on Jun 2, 2010 4:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Just saw it on Baseball Tonight.

I am equally sad and relieved.

"Abtholoootleee"

by Floyd Gondoli on Jun 2, 2010 4:45 PM PDT reply actions  

June 2, 2010

The dark ages of Grifflent ceased throughout the land.

by Wilder. on Jun 2, 2010 4:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank you, Junior.

It’s a shame it had to end like this, but you are the reason I became an M’s fan.

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Jun 2, 2010 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Having said that, I'm busting out the celebatory brews tonight.

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Jun 2, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

So when he...

Inevitably and undeservingly gets voted into the All-Star game, can Guti take his place?

by Tamuzi on Jun 2, 2010 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

As a lifelong Packers fan...

I spent all of 2009 rooting for Brett Favre to go down in a brutal and horrific injury. When it almost happened in the NFC Championship game I was sickened. “This is awful. Not like this.”

This is a little like that.

by hova9 on Jun 2, 2010 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Jr. isn't hitting .330

for the Angles. I don’t get the comparison.

by TheBishop on Jun 2, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basically, it's bittersweet.

I wanted it to happen, and would ultimately be glad at its impact but it’s still kind of a bummer.

by hova9 on Jun 2, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I disdain the Packers

and I loved the Brett Favre injury.

by Matthew on Jun 2, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also the collapse.

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Suck it, Vikings

by Matthew on Jun 2, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions   6 recs

Bite me

Rooting for lovable losers since 1984.

by seattlecougar on Jun 2, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed all the illegal hits by the Saints that weren't called.

Fuck you NFL for becoming the NBA right in front of our eyes.

by Sec 108 on Jun 3, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too soon probably.

I’m sure he’ll want to step away from the game for at least a short time.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Jun 2, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think he could conceivably be worse than Brumley.

I also don’t think that’s where he wants to be in his life. He seems like the kind of player who wants a quiet retirement away from baseball. He’s obviously a family man (witness: trade to Cincinnati), so I doubt we’ll ever see him in uniform again.

I can't resist clicking "Rec" when I see a post with four [of them] already.

by thehemogoblin on Jun 2, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Give the man some time.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Jun 2, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not suggesting he become a coach tomorrow or even this season

All I’m saying is I’d like to see him come back and help the team. Calm down

What's the deal with corn nuts?

by BaronVonBullshit on Jun 2, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Calm down?

I wasn’t aware that I was up…. I’m just saying that typically when someone retires, they want some time to spend with family, adjust to life after playing, and that sort of thing. Give the man some time, and maybe someday he will want to get back into baseball in some way.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Jun 2, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN with the following front page article..

SEATTLE — The Seattle Mariners say Ken Griffey Jr. is retiring.

by Rudy4three on Jun 2, 2010 4:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Same here.

And I’m totally taken by surprise by my reaction. I haven’t cared very much about him for a long time.

by royalcurve on Jun 2, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a little surprised as well.

The baseball person in me says “oh thank you!”, but the rest of me wishes he had been able to leave on better terms.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Jun 2, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been poo-pooing the nostalgia people all year

But it only took about 5 seconds for that to come back to me. I mean, the guy is at least half the reason I love baseball.

by Robert Lintott on Jun 2, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one not sad at all?

But I never really had huge Griffey love. My love was tied to Edgar and Dan Wilson.

by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 2, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm with you

I was never attached to Junior the way I was to Edgar.

by tait644 on Jun 2, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel bad for him that this is how his career ended

but I’m not going to miss him. My first vivid memories of him was the forced trade to Cincinnati.

by BrianL on Jun 2, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sad per se.

More wistful. I’m happy for the increased chances of success this season. It’s just now that he’s officially done I think back to growing up in the 90’s and everything about watching him play everyday.

by TheBishop on Jun 2, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sort of relieved, to be honest.

You don’t root for failure, and it was painful watching Griffey play, the same way it was painful watching Franco Harris…

by eponymous_coward on Jun 2, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

How can something so right still feel a little bit wrong?

We all knew it needed to happen, but way to go out with a whimper.

You! Cake or death?

by Torrid on Jun 2, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

HE HAD THE PERFECT SEND-OFF LAST YEAR! IT DIDN'T HAVE TO END LIKE THIS

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Jun 2, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

FILL THE ROSTER GMZ!

Too bad DFAing Kanekoa couldn’t wait a couple days.

by Tyler is a G on Jun 2, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I think you are right.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Jun 2, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only catch with Rule V guys is outrighting them.

You can DFA them and bring them back to the majors, as far as I know.

I can't resist clicking "Rec" when I see a post with four [of them] already.

by thehemogoblin on Jun 2, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Handicapped with a bat or not, its sad to see the kid hang it up

it would be alot more sad if this season wasn’t such a disaster, but atleast its over. Next up: Junior as assistant batting coach?

Peace, Love and West Coast Hip Hop, Go Mariners!

by E2ESQUARE on Jun 2, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Kind of sad how this went down

But I immediately have only good feelings about Griffey again, and I’m hoping most other Seattle fans feel the same way.

I still kind of wanted him to play an inning in center field when it really didn’t matter though. Both for nostalgia and entertainment purposes.

FUCK THE MARINERS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 2, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

It's my birthday today, no joke!

Best birthday present ever. It’s going to be tough to top this one.

by mont_mariner on Jun 2, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Junior, you were the tecmo bo of many baseball video games..

And hero to many including myself. I won’t remember these few months, i’ll remember the other 21 years. You are the best.

by bagsflyfree on Jun 2, 2010 4:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I have a shit ton of work to do

and I’m just mindlessly scrolling through this and my Twitter feed. Griffey is one of few that could do that to me.

by TheBishop on Jun 2, 2010 4:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Best of luck for your life outside of baseball Ken

From a Mariners point of view for the season, this is only positive

by aussie_chop on Jun 2, 2010 4:57 PM PDT reply actions  

There is no downside to this from a baseball perspective.

But I’m still sad to see him go, there is a very real chance we will never see a player as good as he was ever again in this town.

by wetzelcoal on Jun 2, 2010 5:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I still so fondly recall things like

this. Griffey dropping two monster HR against a steroid filled Roger Clemens in the middle of one of Griffey’s patented monster Aprils. Oh that swing.

by TheBishop on Jun 2, 2010 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Did he throw his no-hitter with us?

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Jun 2, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Against us?

It was Bosio and RJ that threw our no-hitters, right?

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Jun 2, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was a perfect game and it was for the Expos at Dodger Stadium.

I can't resist clicking "Rec" when I see a post with four [of them] already.

by thehemogoblin on Jun 2, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, MLB.com is slow to the draw

It is just now being mentioned

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jun 2, 2010 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, I already wrote my Griffey post.

But this is both heartbreaking and nice. Good luck in life Griffey.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Jun 2, 2010 5:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Looking back in 3 years or so

I won’t even remember these two months, and will instead remember the perfect ending.

FUCK THE MARINERS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 2, 2010 5:04 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope it's the same for me.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Jun 2, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

June 18th will be Griffeyday

That way they can still give out the bobblehead

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Jun 2, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck that I've got tickets to a Griffer bobblehead night.

I want to see them awkwardly continue to promote it as planned.

by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2010 5:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hey, Ichiro and Griffey, Cooperstown's calling

but we understand you have some more work to do right here in Seattle!

by Matthew on Jun 2, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe they can just reprint the nameplate

Bobblehead faces are so pathetically anonymous. I guess it’s likely to have darker skin tone, so maybe….Milton bobblehead night! Surely he’d have an eBay market of his own….

by Torjazz on Jun 2, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Something tells me Randy Johnson is going in as a Diamondback.

Four Cy Youngs, a ring, a World Series MVP and a perfect game in Arizona, versus one Cy Young and a no-hitter in Seattle.

I can't resist clicking "Rec" when I see a post with four [of them] already.

by thehemogoblin on Jun 2, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately I think you're right.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Jun 2, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

With the Diamondbacks having 4 fans and all

I see no reason why Mariner fans can’t still go to Cooperstown on his induction and claim him as our own.

by TheBishop on Jun 2, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That would be awesome.

10,000 M’s fans show up to cheer him on, and 12 D-Backs.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Jun 2, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tacoma playing tonight?

Time to watch out for who gets scratched from the lineup.

by BrianL on Jun 2, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tommy Everidge!

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Jun 2, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

FUCK YES

He hit .417/.481/.875 last week.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Jun 2, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does everybody just forget

The degree to which Jr hosed the M’s when he left the first time?

I know the average Seattle fan is a bit sentimental- but it’s so odd to me how much love Jr gets, when he forced he way off the team. It’s never made sense to me that he gets loved and people still hate A-Rod.

twitter.com/b_dids Here, I am batman.

by Dids on Jun 2, 2010 5:20 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

My opinion.

He left to go home. A-Rod left for money.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Jun 2, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

He didn't just "leave" though

He forced the team to trade him and limited their ability to bargain in the process. That’s a far cry from leaving as a free agent.

twitter.com/b_dids Here, I am batman.

by Dids on Jun 2, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a fine point to bring up.

Everyone’s entitled to an opinion on Griffey.

by Matthew on Jun 2, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

He was a controversial fellow.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 2, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've always thought Griffey finally matured when he was in Cincinnati

When he forced his way out of Seattle he was in many ways still a petulant prima donna. It always seemed to me that he hadn’t learned to deal with criticism and was more than a bit self-absorbed.

In Cincinnati his expectations unraveled on him, and I think he came away from that time with a better grasp of who he was. When he was on the team in 2009 he appeared to carry some maturity that he didn’t show previously.

"Most all good Americans hate the Yankees. It is a value we cherish and pass on to our children like decency and democracy and the importance of a good breakfast." - William B. Mead

by Steve Nelson on Jun 2, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

And why is that?

The team that was left behind was not as good as it might have been. That hurt the fans in the same way that, say, a Carlos Silva signing would. Definitely justified anger if you’re inclined that way.

by Torjazz on Jun 2, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fans don't have a right to be upset?

How’s that work?

People were pretty upset with Jr when he originally forced the trade. It’s just been weird that people universally forget that when they can’t forgive Alex for taking the boatload of money somebody handed him.

twitter.com/b_dids Here, I am batman.

by Dids on Jun 2, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Mariners not having A-Rod would have just been a footnote

the Mariners without Griffey would be playing in St. Petersburg, FLA

by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

Given that Edgar was more productive in the ALDS, and Griffey was gone for half the season, I’m not sure I could agree.

by Rachmaninoff on Jun 2, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

"saving baseball in Seattle" wasn't all the on-field performance

and if Griffey’s injury were part of your argument, didn’t legislature vote down the new stadium pretty handily that summer?

the propaganda made to sway people to build the stadium was “Ken Griffey, Jr might not play here anymore.”

by BigWood! on Jun 2, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

So what?

If the Mariners don’t start winning, do you think that propaganda holds water?

by Rachmaninoff on Jun 2, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not just about the results of the 1995 season.

Griffey was a huge icon, even bigger than Edgar.

plus Junior did score the winning run of Game 5

by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, Griffey was the bigger icon.

But the general argument doesn’t go that the Mariners stayed because of having big icons. So does it matter?

As for scoring the winning run…they never get there without Edgar’s huge night the game before.

by Rachmaninoff on Jun 2, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

No argument.

The team doesn’t get to where it did in 95 without Griffey. But the same can be said about Edgar and Randy, too. And without the success created through their joint efforts, there’s no way the citizen referendum gets ignored to tax and build the stadium. It wouldn’t have been politically expedient to do that for a team that didn’t win. And in the end, the stadium was about political expediency.

by Rachmaninoff on Jun 2, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

And by the way...

I’m not talking solely out of my ass on this. My family is friends with one of the previous owners of the team, who had fairly good insights as to what specifically was going on in the decision-making process.

by Rachmaninoff on Jun 2, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

A-Rod was paid $2 million more than Tom Hicks paid George W. Bush for the Rangers.

Wasn’t about the money my ass.

I can't resist clicking "Rec" when I see a post with four [of them] already.

by thehemogoblin on Jun 2, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's demonstrably false

he specifically said that money would play a factor in his decision

by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

no, when he left, he said over and over again that Texas was going to win titles

and that what swayed him to leave was because he liked their minor league system, and not because Texas offered him double what everyone else did.

by BigWood! on Jun 2, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure you can if you don't make shit up while doing it

and don’t display a short-sighted view of how baseball and player movement actually works

by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't say it "shouldn't play a factor"

I never even blamed him for taking it, either. I just always found it funny when they asked him about the money, he’d immediately deflect to how great Texas’ farm system was.

by BigWood! on Jun 2, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not even sure which side of this argument I'm on anymore

But to me, Griffey and A-Rod both left for selfish reasons and didn’t give a crap about what the fans thought.

by Jeff Nye on Jun 2, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some people.

It’s not like everyone has amnesia about it.

by Matthew on Jun 2, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure

Which is almost my point I guess. The sentimentality of (the bulk of) M’s fans is not only frustrating, but I think works against the success of the team.

twitter.com/b_dids Here, I am batman.

by Dids on Jun 2, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

At the time the majority of controversy felt like media hype and I ignored it.

There were basic facts, and a lot of hyperbole. Jr. was here, then he was gone. I don’t appreciate the media attempting to sculpt my perspective on players.

by Kermit. on Jun 2, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you're just in a vast minority.

Most everyone’s forgiven Griffey for his faults and his errors. You haven’t. Whatever.

by TheBishop on Jun 2, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just don't agree with the whole "getting mad at a player for leaving" view

I mean sports players are basically mercenaries, and are only there because they’re being paid to.

When they’re on my team, I (usually) love them, and when they leave (if they were good), I’ll be sad, but never angry.

by Karma Police on Jun 2, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

The A-Rod hate is definitely irrational

That being said, everyone was pretty pissed at Randy and Junior too, but A-Rod has had his image pretty well trashed to the point that no one really likes the guy anymore. I think Seattle may have been a little more forgiving eventually if he hadn’t gone on to do the things that he’s done.

FUCK THE MARINERS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 2, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

"I want to go back home and be close to my family. I have two young kids to raise."

“I get that y’all love me, and I’m really good, but I just don’t want to stay here. So trade me. Trade me or I’ll…well, I have this contract and I guess I’ll play, but I won’t do it happily. But I’ll play.”

“So we can either have you play for us and not be happy or we can send you to your family and have you be happy?”

“Yeah.”

“You’re really, really good, Ken. You posted 5.0 WAR in a year when you were allegedly sandbagging to force a trade.”

“Yeah.”

“…we want you to stay.”

“Your contract, technically. But I want to be happy and be with my family.”

“Fuck it; we’ll trade you.”

Somehow I am not offended by this.

by harkening on Jun 2, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

We didn't forget

I was on Griffey’s case in a big way after he forced his way out of town. But his returning last year was a kind of mea culpa and admission that he had made a mistake and really loves Seattle. And now he’s finally recognizing that he can’t do it anymore and has stepped aside. All is forgiven.

by lemonverbena on Jun 2, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus we got Mike Cameron for him

And Cameron was awesome.

With A-Rod we just got a “welp, gotta go!”

by Karma Police on Jun 2, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

So many have already said what I could.

I knew this had to happen, but goddamn if my eyes aren’t watering right now.

-I remember buying his candy bar.
-I remember pulling his Upper Deck rookie card and thinking it was the best card ever.
-I remember watching him rob Jesse Barfield of his 200th HR. {at 1:54. Bonus: Randy sighting!}
(Jesse with his hands on his hips is the best part.)
-The slide in ’95.
-When he came back to us as a Red and called Seattle “home.”

I need to stop now, but I know this was the right move. My heart just needs some time to accept it.

by jwolf0 on Jun 2, 2010 5:24 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Seattle sports has lost two great icons this year.

Thank you for giving me a reason to watch sports while growing up, Griffey and Walter Jones. Without Griffey, my love of baseball wouldn’t be the same.

by seattle_since_81 on Jun 2, 2010 5:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm with you on that one

My love of baseball and my childhood/younger days would be much different if it wasn’t for The Kid

by bomdal on Jun 2, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

As I say below

He was about the only reason watching the Mariners was evenly remotely amusing for many years.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jun 2, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you Griffey

For all you’ve done for this team.

I know your career didn’t end the way you hoped but the rest of your career more than makes up for that.

Legend.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jun 2, 2010 5:25 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Moved to Seattle in the winter of '99.

My views on Griffey are a bit skewed. As a result, all my fondest memories come from this:

by hova9 on Jun 2, 2010 5:29 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Still the greatest baseball game ever.

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Jun 2, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have an SNES emulator on my computer

I just started playing that game again when I heard that news. Awesome.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jun 2, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Such a great game

It’s in my room right now, along with Winning Run

by bomdal on Jun 2, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Players get to be on the cover of various sports games every year, but only legends get their own game.

Ken Griffey, Jr. is a legend. They should make this again, now that he is retired, and turn it into the Madden series of baseball.

by Wilder. on Jun 2, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Griffey was about the only thing that made Ms baseball worth watching

In many of those dark pre-1995 years.

My fondest early memory of Griffey is him and his father hitting back to back jacks in 1990. Special moment.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jun 2, 2010 5:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Wish he would have stuck around for this homestand to be given a proper send off

I think most fans would have liked that and I personally (who re-sell tickets) would have stood to make an extra $500-$1000 this weekend. ;-)

by TIFO on Jun 2, 2010 5:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm sure Shannon will write this up, but earlier on 710 talking to Calabro she said that for her, the moment she would remember from this year came in the middle of the kerfuffle.

She said that recently Griffey had been looking for something he could do with Taryn— and that she had expressed interest in flying, so they were taking flying lessons. Shannon said when the team flew into Tampa on the off day, you could see cars for various players waiting on the tarmac, next to the players bus. Junior, instead of getting in a car to go home to Orlando, she said he walked past them all to a private plane, took off his sports coat, put on the headphones, checked in with his flight instructor, and turned around to wave at the players and coaches, a huge smile on his face.

She said she loved the thought of him literally flying into the sunset, having so much to look forward to with his family in his retirement.

by msb on Jun 2, 2010 5:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks Jr.

Griffey you will be missed! #24 you are my hero!

by PWCBro on Jun 2, 2010 5:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I was hoping to take my little brother to see him on fathers day.

I knew he’d play that day. Damn, this sucks. Wanted to see him play 1 last time. Don’t care if he plays like shit. Still the sweetest 40 year old swing ever. This definitely saddens me today. Now I gotta break the news to my little bro, kids going to be heartbroken.

by FisteeFisterer on Jun 2, 2010 5:35 PM PDT reply actions  

I saw him play in Bellingham at my first live game.

I actually got the chance to meet him, when I was a kid. We were family friends with someone in the Mariners org. and we were sitting in the press box in Seattle before batting practice, just so my brother and I could see the field.

We’re sitting there, in awe of the Dome, when I look over. Junior’s standing at the door of the press box, with my brother, then maybe…7 or 8 years old (I’m fairly certain this was ’93), sitting indian-style, completely oblivious to who is behind him. Ken gives us a smile, picks up my brother, and sits him on his shoulders. He steps in, says a few words, lets me toss a ball back and forth with him a few times behind the plate, signs my Upper Deck rookie card, tips his cap, and leaves.

I’m still upset he’s held the team down this year, but Goddamn if he won’t always be my favorite baseball player on the face of the planet.

by wilsonpdx on Jun 2, 2010 5:36 PM PDT reply actions  

The first autograph I ever got from a player was from Griffey in about 1989

He was so awesome to me (I was 8 then).

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by skywaker9 on Jun 2, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same experience.

He didn’t really pay much attention to the adults in the room, but he was amazing to the two of us.

Incidentally, the first autograph I got was from Jim Lefebvre. Sigh.

by wilsonpdx on Jun 2, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember walking to the Kingdome with my brother and mom and him driving up in his corvette with a big grin on his face.

He smiled and said hi to all the fans as he drove by. Of course, he had his cap on backwards. What a cool cat he was.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jun 2, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just pulled that ball off the top of my bookshelf and am looking at it smiling

Right now.

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by skywaker9 on Jun 2, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

My second autograph

Howard Johnson of the Mets.

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by skywaker9 on Jun 2, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, I'm late to the party.

Here’s my two cents: I was born and raised here in Puget Sound, Griffey was my idol growing up. I spend hours mimicking his swing in the backyard. Then when he left, it left like my heart was ripped out. I still followed his career in Cincinnati, but it wasn’t the same. Once he came back to Seattle, I fell in love all over again. Should he have retired after last year? Absolutely. Did I like him dragging down the team this year? NO. But he will always have a huge place in my heart.

Today is the end of an era for a legend. He was a class act on and off the field throughout his career. One of the sweetest swings and best smiles the game has ever seen. Thanks for everything Jr. You will be missed.

Karma police, arrest this man.

by wyte_lightning on Jun 2, 2010 5:54 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

HAHAHAHA.

YOU HAD YOUR PERFECT RIDE OFF INTO THE SUNSET OPPORTUNITY, YOUR CHANCE TO BE EULOGIZED PROPERLY. YOU BLEW IT AND NOW WE GET TO LAUGH AT YOU SLINKING OFF INTO THE NIGHT LIKE A CROOKED BUSINESSMAN SKIPPING TOWN.

Thanks for the memories.

by abender20 on Jun 2, 2010 5:55 PM PDT reply actions   4 recs

I feel like my childhood just retired.

Probably overdue.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Jun 2, 2010 6:10 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Same here.

It’s like, I’ve known for years that my childhood was over and that my glory days were probably behind me, but now it’s official.

Milton Bradley apologist

by sanford_and_son on Jun 3, 2010 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

It had to happen, but I'm still a little bit sad.

Baseball without Ken Griffey Jr. seems wrong somehow.

Rob Johnson invented AIDS

by I Lick Squirrels on Jun 2, 2010 6:14 PM PDT reply actions  

The last time I saw a live Griffey at-bat was in Spring Training this year

And he hit a walk-off grand slam. As illegitimate of a home run as it was (especially since it was in Spring Training), that memory will always stick with me.

I have these strange mixed feelings today, because I first started rooting for Griffey when I was 6 in 1994. My family recently sold the house we built when I was ten. It was like the book had finally closed on a major part of my childhood. This feels the same way.

Now that that’s out of the way, though…. FUCK YES NOW WE CAN MOVE BACK TOWARDS A SEMBLANCE OF A MAJOR LEAGUE ROSTER IT’S ABOUT FUCKING TIME I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS DAY FOR MONTHS AND IT’S FINALLY HERE AND I’M OH SO HAPPY.

by Matt Erickson on Jun 2, 2010 6:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Glad and sad

and also a little bitter…it didn’t have to be this way, he was paraded off the field on the shoulders of his teammates last year for God’s sake. I wish he had been able to see as clearly as many of us did that it wasn’t going to get any better then that.

That being said, thank you Griffey…your play in the ‘90s eased my transition from child sheep follower of the Angels to the rabid, diehard M’s fan I am today.

Looking forward to that HOF speech!

by Omerta on Jun 2, 2010 6:35 PM PDT reply actions  

If only the bullpen hadn't been so shitty it might not have come down to this.

Not to mention Figgins, Lopez, and Kotchman hitting like crap until we were almost out of it.
Not to mention defensive bozos like Rob Johnson and Moore.

Fuck, this news makes me extremely sad. And pissed off at the fucks who underperformed so badly.

Junior’s performance was only a small part of this team’s crappy record, no matter how much he was being made a scapegoat on the Mariner blogs.
Man, this makes me sad.

by Sam Regens on Jun 2, 2010 8:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Figgins, Lopez, and Kotchman, the bullpen, and the catchers aren't the reason Griffey hit sub .200

Yeah the team has blown thus far, but it comes down to Griffey no longer being able to play at an acceptable level.

by BrianL on Jun 2, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Junior.

Thanks for the effortless swing, the spectacular catches that you made look almost routine, the tickling, the ballpark, the franchise, the backwards caps, the homers, the pranks, the grin.

Thank you, Walter Jones.

by thebyron on Jun 2, 2010 9:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey guys, Giants fan living in Seattle here

I’ve been lurking here for a while and I’ve watched the M’s for 9 years. I guess this is a good place to make my first post here.

I’m glad I got a chance to watch Griffey hit a homer in the flesh last year, even if it was off Barry Zito. It would’ve been nice if he had gone out a hero last year, but I guess he wanted to give it one last go.

by Murray, Present on Jun 2, 2010 9:50 PM PDT reply actions  

You jerks made this happen

You jerks made this happen. There is absolutely no reason for the disrespect that Ken Griffey Jr. endured on this site and in the media. None. It makes me sick. He’s the modern-day equivalent of Aaron or Ruth. There will never be another Ken Griffey Jr. And the media just drove him off our roster. Jerks.

by Toutonghi on Jun 2, 2010 10:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Are you sure it doesn't have anything to do with the multiple knee issues, declining bat speed, and sub .200 BA?

At some point you have to consider the possibility that Griffey woke up this morning and realized that he just didn’t have anything left in the tank. Instead of prolonging this experience, he did the noble thing and walked away ala Schmidt.

by BrianL on Jun 2, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can always buy a VHS tape of your favorite Griffey highlights and watch that instead of a 2010 Mariners game.

Griffey is a terrible baseball player right now. Has been for years. The guy has been given all the respect in the world for what he has done, and more. And I think most of the people around here share that respect.

And yeah, as others have said, I’m pretty sure Lookout Landing didn’t push Griffey into retirement. If we had that kind of power, trust me, the roster would look a little different.

by Teej on Jun 2, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

All good things come to an end.

This year should’ve been about honoring Griffey, not watching him tear down his own legacy. This outcome is better for everyone, Griffey included.

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by MT Olson on Jun 2, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bonds was better

Get over yourself

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.

by baetown415 on Jun 3, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I remember following Griffey’s career from day one; not exactly an easy feat for a 9-year-old kid living on the East Coast. (It usually meant stealthily staying up late at night to catch The George Michael Sports Machine or getting up really early and catching SportsCenter before my parents woke up.) Actually, it’s probably more accurate to say that I really started following Griffey when Upper Deck released their inaugural set in 1989 because, after all, that was the card to have. Griffey was never my favorite Mariner – that was Edgar Martinez – but he was always the dude that I, and everyone else, wanted to be when playing wiffleball or sandlot ball or even while playing off-the-wall. (Back when we used to "call" players, i.e. "I’m Ken Griffey Jr.!" "No you’re not. You were him last time!") I remember trying to hit lefty because of him. I remember purposely taking late breaks on balls hit my way into the outfield just to make highlight-reel catches like Griffey. (Got me benched quite a few times in Little League, that’s for sure.) I also remember asking my parents for Christmas every year for a Ken Griffey Jr. model bat and glove for Little League. (I ended up with a damn second-hand "Al Kaline" model glove handed down from my cousin.) I remember when I finally got the Griffey glove – I was 14 and well out of my Little League years – I still squealed like a little child and called up a few friends to play catch in the middle of the winter. Even though my favorite player in the game was Tony Gwynn, Griffey was always the player I wanted to become; the effortless superduperstar with the big grin.

The amazing thing about Griffey – and, certainly there are a lot of amazing things about him – is that I’m sure pretty much every baseball fan our age has some Griffey-related nostalgia, even if they weren’t a fan of his, or the Mariners, or even of baseball in general. I don’t think any player captivated all of baseball, across the entire world, like Griffey did in his prime.

by ThomasG on Jun 3, 2010 6:33 AM PDT reply actions  

By my count I watched Griffey play in person well over 400 times.

The final 5 times nearly destroyed all of the joy the previous 400 plus games had brought to me. Thank goodness this is over and we can return to trying to win ballgames.

by Sec 108 on Jun 3, 2010 8:57 AM PDT reply actions  

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