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24-41, Chart

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Biggest Contributor: Milton Bradley +.175
Biggest Suckfest: Ryan Rowland-Smith -.206
Biggest Apathy: Me +.080
Biggest Damning with Faint Praise: Technically, we didn't lose to Jeff Suppan!

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2010: 24-41
2008: 23-42

by ThundaPC on Jun 15, 2010 8:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Gerrit Cole?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Jun 16, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like drafts a lot.

And Anthony Rendon sounds really intriguing because of how often I hear his name.

Aside from that, I always try to look for the good inside of the bad when it comes to the Mariners. And I figure if we’re going to lose, we’re going to get a high pick and those are always more interesting than picking 41st. And if we sign any type A free agents this off-season we won’t have to give up the pick, which is always nice.

by chezbergrur on Jun 16, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you aren't going to contend for a playoff spot, I'm all for getting talent

And from what I’ve read, the upcoming draft class has more elite players that would justify a higher draft pick, as opposed to 2010’s draft.

Winning games really isn’t a big deal to me right now. I’m watching Saunders, waiting for Moore, and hoping we get a good haul for Lee.

by tait644 on Jun 16, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chart question....

At what point does the starting point begin at less than a 50% chance of a win? I mean, RRS was starting the game, surely you cannot assume a 50% chance of winning if it were almost anyone other than Suppan starting against him?

by Henry H on Jun 15, 2010 8:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Never.

It’s always 50/50 to begin the game, no matter who the teams are and who is starting.

Karma police, arrest this man.

by wyte_lightning on Jun 15, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn't position by half inning affect the percentage at times?

9th inning, extras, tie game type situation? Not precisely what he’s asking, but it sparked a separate yet slightly related question

by Kermit. on Jun 15, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe you're right

Pretty sure that’s all about the leverage index.

Karma police, arrest this man.

by wyte_lightning on Jun 15, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

My understanding of WPA

Is that if both teams have an equal number of outs left with a tie score, it’s always going to be 50/50.

That’s why you see the graphs regress to that point every inning (and bounce toward the home team at the bottom of every inning, when they have 3 more outs left) until the score becomes uneven.

Rooting for lovable losers since 1984.

by seattlecougar on Jun 15, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really Matthew?

+.080 apathy? My apathy is too close to 1.000 for +.080 to be an option at this point.

Rooting for lovable losers since 1984.

by seattlecougar on Jun 15, 2010 11:14 PM PDT reply actions  

It's great to see this "officially" registered.

I checked in on the game, saw MB hit a HR then RRS sort of fall apart, went off to have dinner and just assumed another loss. And who cares? There’s nothing interesting in seeing most of the ABs at this point.

I either feel sorry for some of the players or just cold. Increasingly cold.

ignacio

by ignacio on Jun 16, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am right up there with you on the apathy scale.

At this point I am going to the games to enjoy the atmosphere and having a drink or two in the beer gardens.

2010 Safeco Field Record: 0-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Jun 16, 2010 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Poor Pitman

in an abbreviated post-game (between good chatter with Drayer) he got the holy trinity of baseball idiocy— “why does everyone do better when they leave”, “fire the manager”, and “the GM has done nothing right”

by msb on Jun 16, 2010 6:44 AM PDT reply actions  

If I read correctly...

Kanekoa Texiera (sp?) got the win for the Royals in relief after Yuni hit a three run double in a 7 run inning. For the Royals. ((Though, it was against the Astros, thats a lot for the Royals)).

I laughed. Sadly.

by Belom3 on Jun 16, 2010 7:48 AM PDT reply actions  

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