12-19, Chart
Biggest Contribution: Josh Wilson, +29.6%
Biggest Suckfest: Chone Figgins, -6.4%
Most Important AB: Wilson homer, +29.5%
Most Important Pitch: Morales double play, +5.0%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +29.3%
Total Contribution by Lineup: +20.2%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +0.5%
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Holy shit, how did "The Paperboy Delivers!" not get used in the game thread today.
I am disappointed in us all.
You're dead to me.
Jeff said it, I think.
Then saved the picture for the chart.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on May 9, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't get it. Can someone clue me in?
I feel like William Tell, or Maid Marian on her tiptoed feet, pulling mussels from a shell.
Im confused too
I’m guessing either Josh Wilson or Saunders is “paperboy”…
I fault Lopez for his out
I fault Brumley for Guti’s. >:(
by Jeff Sullivan on May 9, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh come on Jeff,
all you gotta do is wave your arms around.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club
by Two Rs and Two Ls on May 9, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
You never know when you'll see the lawn dart
after yesterday’s ‘triple’ I can see what the reasoning was.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on May 9, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there a 3rd base coach that people actually like?
by Mariner John on May 9, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely not
One of the worst jobs in baseball.
by Jeff Sullivan on May 9, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Time to give "wilson" some capital letters?
"It just goes to show how much talent there is in our minor-league system." - Jason Vargas
He's the little Wilson.
As compared to the bigger Wilson.
...and now I'm here
I know
but I worry the lowercase letters denote a lack of ability.
"It just goes to show how much talent there is in our minor-league system." - Jason Vargas
Thanks, sunshine.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on May 9, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
That's the spirit!
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on May 9, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Atta spirit, a guy has a good game and you find the perfect time to insult him!
true Seattle sports fan
But his ssERA is fantastic.
...and now I'm here
by CapSea on May 9, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
That's actually the opposite of a normal Seattle sports fan
but thanks for trying to make me feel more welcome and assimilated
by Matthew on May 9, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well you do start out in the welcoming committee when you are a rookie commenter right?
At least that’s what I was told when I signed up.
by seattle_since_81 on May 9, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Lopie gets fatter the more he sucks.
He’s like Kirby.
by FisteeFisterer on May 9, 2010 4:04 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
So Ryan Langerhans is a walk machine,
5 in the last 2 games.
"Why did he run when I was going to throw him out?"
- Ichiro Suzuki
Wow a day I'm not able to watch the game and this happens.
I should try not watching more often.
Well Tacoma got shut out today
Seems like we can only have one good team between the Mariners and the Rainiers
I need to run a thought by people that has been bothering me.
Assuming average pitching staffs, would a team of Manny Ramirez’s (all bat, no glove) do better or worse than a team of Jack Wilsons (all glove, no bat)? For a long time I’ve felt that they could even out, but recently I’ve been thinking about the so called “diminishing returns” of defense, as well as how runs are scored:
- Manny Ramirez team can hit double after double and score 10 runs in an inning.
- Jack Wilson team can hit two singles in a row and is still not going to score.
I picture an all offense, no defense team finishing games winning with a score of like 14-8, while all defense no offense team finishes games losing with a score of 3 to 1. I’m starting to think that offense may be becoming underrated again. Someone talk me out of it? I’m aware that a “run saved is as good as a run scored” obviously, but run scoring is also not independent, and I think you need more offense to get the runs that are required to win the low scoring games.
Winning 8 to 1 today sparked this idea so hopefully this is not considered off topic.
...and now I'm here
Basically.
Or if perhaps the “Runs Saved” calculation is inaccurate. Really anything. Just thoughts on this matter in general. But yes, your response was the essence of my comment, though I’d replace “independent” with “more independent than offensive contributions.”
...and now I'm here
I have a way to elaborate on this as well.
An amazing defensive outfield will still not stop all things like extra base hits, home runs, walks, etc. So the team on offense will still be able to score runs even against a great defense. But a team that can barely hit singles and generally sucks isn’t likely to get that kind of offense support.
This is in addition to, not in replace of, the thoughts I mentioned earlier.
...and now I'm here
So, is Vargas' sample size becoming large enough to conclude his not terrible?
Maybe even kinda good?
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
Yes, this has been covered in the recaps and recently got a post all of its own
FIP takes some time to become meaningful, but core stats like strike rate, strike swinging rate, and ability to face opposite handed hitters will stabilize quickly. He doesn’t have the fastball to be a real ace, and durability is still a question, I think. But he’s shown that he has enough command of his FB and excellent change to get legitimate outs when he needs to. He’s the reason everyone hated the idea of signing Washburn.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on May 9, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
The last time he posted one was before Cliff Lee's debut
The time before that, we were going into Chicago.
Yes, we have a coupon.
by Crystal for DH on May 9, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
When Bedard gets back this team is going to have 5 aces.
...and now I'm here
Might as well go with a four-man bullpen then
which means three more spots for DHs! Paging Jermaine Dye, Gary Sheffield and David Ortiz
This team is going to win the 2004 World Series so hard.
...and now I'm here
by CapSea on May 9, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
The Mariners scored more runs than the other team.
What does that mean? I forgot.
ROB JOHNSON IS THE WORST PERSON EVER
by I Lick Squirrels on May 9, 2010 4:44 PM PDT reply actions
I'm not sure.
What is the opposite of losing? I can’t remember the word.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 9, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Feels good
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on May 9, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
The Mariners are now 5-0 when using the pink bats.
In those games they average 6 runs a game (9, 2, 6, 5, & 8, respectively), on 11 hits and 1.8 HRs.
In conclusion, let’s always use pink bats.
Brandon League had 3 Ks in .2 innings!
That’s a K% of 150%! A K/9 of 40.5! AMAZING
by Dewey N on May 9, 2010 5:16 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
So glad I went to the game today with my mom.
I was next in line to get Brandon League’s autograph before the game. Then a douche crewmember said that was enough autographs and pushed him and me away. Noooooooooooooooooo.

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