Fan Gauge: Ichiro Suzuki
by Jeff Sullivan on May 6, 2010 11:00 AM PDT
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iie.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on May 6, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
"Love" would be "ai"
IIRC. Ichiro-sama wa ai o shimasu, or something like that. It’s been nine years so it might not be very right.
I was doing to default to "daisuki" but you may remember better than I do.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on May 6, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
"Ai shiteiru" is almost never used except in romantic scenes in incredibly cheesy soap operas or TV shows.
“Daisuki” is probably a lot more appropriate in this situation, in the sense that “love” here indicates a stronger version of “like” rather than meaning we feel a romantic attraction towards Ichiro. If you literally want to marry Ichiro and have is babies, then “Ichiro-san (or sama) o ai shiteiru” would be appropriate.
ROB JOHNSON IS THE WORST PERSON EVER
by I Lick Squirrels on May 6, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I voted love because fashion is not part of my criteria.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on May 6, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Skinny jeans are no-no in my books but for you Ichiro, I can make an exception.
Don’t ever leave us.
I wish that this were true but plenty of honest-to-God Mariners fans hate him
by Aaron Campeau on May 6, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, that makes two of us!
Because we’re rebels. Accurate, intelligent, introspective rebels. And damn proud of it my friend. - CapSea
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997
I would get a Ichi jersey but too many people have them.
I think I’m gonna get a Gutz jersey.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 6, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
That's going to be the next biggest seller.
Count it.
by 1L on May 6, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
So do I
I mean who wouldn’t want to have one? I think being a Mariners fan almost dictates having an Ichiro and Hernandez jersey (now that the extension thing is out of the way).
Jerseys are damn expensive.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 6, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
My autographed Felix M's jersey cost me $40 including shipping off of eBay!
This was in 2005… (and yes, it includes authenticity certificate!)
by seattlesundevil on May 6, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Fucking ridiculous.
So I guess there is benefits to noone knowing anything about the mariners.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 6, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't have either one of their jerseys and have never even briefly considered purchasing them!
by seattlebruin on May 6, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I have three with no name, but the number eleven.
My playing number was always eleven, and I absolutely adore edgar, so works out both ways.
I don't understand how people don't have a strong opinion of him
seems like you would either love or hate him
by seattlebruin on May 6, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Ruh rohs.
Did Sec 108 vote “Hate”? Hey, that rhymes.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on May 6, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
You have a great gift for rhyme.
Because we’re rebels. Accurate, intelligent, introspective rebels. And damn proud of it my friend. - CapSea
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997
No I didn't, but I am fucking sick of people who don't vote love being called trolls.
Also, I have not voted hate or love once because baseball players do not deserve such a level of emotional response from me. Except for Yuni. As I said before, I do not judge others for having those feelings because when I was younger I did too. I just don’t anymore.
by Sec 108 on May 6, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I know your style and am aware you are not serious.
It is the other kids reaction to these comments that is driving me nuts.
I've been voting based on my baseball feelings for the player.
If I was voting relative to my wife or kids, I’d vote “don’t have a strong opinion of” for everyone. The poll is based on whatever criteria you’d like, so at least we’re both following the directions.
Seriously
People are entitled to whatever opinions they might have. It doesn’t matter. If I expected a unanimous answer I wouldn’t post a poll.
by Jeff Sullivan on May 6, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
This is why I'd like votes to not appear in a persons profile.
At the very least seed them in with comment history to make them more difficult to find. This probably wouldn’t help with advanced searches and specific names, would it
Or at the very least maybe don't open these poll threads to comments
“using whatever criteria you like” != telling everybody what your criteria are.
But has anything been particularly surprising yet?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on May 6, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not related to the voting is it? :(
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on May 6, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Love
I would love Ichiro if he were just the personality.
I would love him if it was just his defense and cannon arm.
I would love him if it was just his unique and awesome hitting style.
But he’s all of them, a wonderful Mariner.
by lailaihei on May 6, 2010 11:15 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 5 recs
Same here.
Pre-strike I was an Expos fan.
Then I was an Ichiro fan.
Then Ichiro came to America.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
My Brother Passionately hates ichiro
He even goes on to claim he’s an overpaid player, I brought up WAR and he returns with “I’m still right, I don’t care about that stat” even though he uses other advance stats to try and back his argument up. Then again, he’s like this with other non baseball issues.
Are you me?
My brother’s exactly that much of a dick.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
by Llewdor on May 6, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Other advance stats to back up his argument?
What advance stat remotely suggests that Ichiro isn’t worth loving?
Seriously he has like 4 career homers.
No way he gets in the HOF.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 6, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
OPS by position or something. You've undoubtedly heard these arguments.
Anything that ignores defense, park, etc.
When you have a first-ballot HOFer IN HIS PRIME on your club
You vote “love.” That’s the way it is.
Griffey is a first ballot HOFer.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 6, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Missed the in his prime.
Got it now.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 6, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
If this is Griffey in his prime, he surely would not be a first ballot Hall of Famer
by seattlebruin on May 6, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder when a guy hangs around too long if it hurts his 1st ballot chances.
HOF is for a player that is the top of his game during his career. Griffey has not been a top player for the last 4 years or so. He is not playing anywhere near that of a HOFer. if he plays any longer he will have more bad years than good years.
by Rickfansince76 on May 6, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Why would it hurt his chances?
It tarnishes his legacy but does nothing to hurt his chances. Griffey is perhaps the defining major leaguer of the 1990’s.
by seattlebruin on May 6, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he's a special case.
His prime was so damn good.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 6, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I love that he still wants to play.
I respect any player that they have to tear the jersey off of. I thought it was amazingly awesome that Ricky Henderson ended his career trying to steal bases in the Mobile Home County Independent League.
I don’t see any reason why this should count against a players Hall of Fame chances.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on May 6, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
"if he plays any longer he will have more bad years than good years."
I disagree a whole bunch.
Just going by OPS+, Griffey’s only posted 2 full seasons below average, last year and 2006. Both of those were above 90. And yes, this year’s a crater.
Factoring in defense certainly boosts all those good years, while lowering the last few bad ones.
He may not have earned his contract all those years as a Red, but he’s had a lot of great years and, like a lot of other HOFers, hung around through some crummy ones.
I could never Love a player
Look I am a Mets fan, and David Wright is awesome but I don’t love him. I love my wife and children, I am a die hard Mets fan and like to see them play well, especially Wright. But if he for some stupid reason was traded, I would still be a Mets fan, I would still get up an dgo to work. If something happened to my family, I could not go to work, i would be devastated. that is love to me
I like Ichiro as a baseball fan. He is a very good part of the game
I think we're using a less serious meaning of love when we vote love
Although if Ichiro were to be traded I’d probably miss a couple days of work.
I don't even think I'd care that much if Lopez was traded
by seattlebruin on May 6, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I think we all did
Everyone else’s just happened to be celebratory.
Sorry.
Mariners/D Broncos/BSU Broncos fan in Seattle
The first rule of Lookout Landing is...
by appleshampoo on May 6, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Whaaaat? You don't love David Wright like you do your wife and children?
I think you need to reevaluate your priorities.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on May 6, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
The poll says "I the mariners fan..."
So…
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 6, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I love Felix more than my family, friends, or country
by Fett42 on May 6, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 9 recs
Finally, someone with their priorities in order!
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on May 6, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't decide if this is more or less terrifying for everyone here than the revelation that some of my coworkers read Twilight at work
and others don’t know what an aircraft carrier is
by seattlebruin on May 6, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't love players like I love my family.
But I still love certain players. The kind of love that if the player were not on the team it just wouldn’t be the same. There would be a sense of emptiness just like if I had lost a family member. Yes, the difference between the two is magnitude but the general principle is the same.
The need for this conversation baffles me.
How should we compare our love for a grown man that I enjoy watching on TV to the love I feel for my goldfish?
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on May 6, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It is all relative.
Besides I love everyone.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on May 6, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I set a place for Ichiro at the dinner table every night.
by ThomasG on May 6, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Some day maybe...
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 6, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Usually Ichiro is the one who sets the table...
unfortunately, in this offense, he never gets to come home…
by Lucas Cervi on May 6, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nicely done.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 6, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I'll start doing this every opening day after his retirement.
Like Elijah at Passover.
Ichiro might be the third most important person in the world to me.
And one of the first two is me.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
We are using love the same as one would say "I love pumpkin pie."
Though pumpkin pie is mighty attractive, I have no feelings towards it other than “Mmmm delicious.” In the case of this, it’s simply “I love the way this player plays baseball.”
From the insane bat control to the wacky off field antics
I don’t think there’s any player I’ve enjoyed watching more. The fact that he consistently breaks prediction models and continues to defy aging curves is just so much icing on the cake.
The only other person who’s as jaw dropping to watch at the plate, in terms of getting hits off of balls no sane person would swing at, is Vladamir Guerrero; and fuck Vladamir Guerrero.
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