Series Preview: Minnesota Twins @ Seattle Mariners
Seattle: 19-30
Minnesota: 30-20
| MARINERS | Δ Ms | TWINS | EDGE | |
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| HITTING (wOBA) |
-43.4(29th) | -2.8 | 33.6 (3rd) | Minnesota |
| FIELDING (UZR) | 11.9 (5th) | 0.0 | 11.0 (8th) | Seattle |
| ROTATION (tRA) |
2.8 (16th) | 1.7 | 23.8 (3rd) | Minnesota |
| BULLPEN (tRA) |
-1.9 (20th) | -0.2 | 14.9 (3rd) | Minnesota |
| OVERALL(RAA) |
-30.6 (24th) | -1.3 | 83.3 (1st) | MINNESOTA |
NOTE: Numbers are valid through Saturday's game. They do not yet reflect Sunday. I will update later.
The hopeful optimistic rationalizing side of me kicked in almost immediately as I began to gather my thoughts for this preview. About two weeks ago, the Mariners had a three game series against the Rays that ended in a similar fashion as this past series. The team led, blew leads late and only took one of three. I wrote then:
What's to say? The team has been playing better of late, but has been unable to close out victories. Bad luck is a big part of it, but the Mariners don't get to use bad luck as a reason for resetting their record and they don't get to cash in a similar amount of good luck from here on out. There're no guarantees. What's done is done and the team is in a tough spot.
The same applies here and my first instinct (always hopeful that I am) was to write about focusing on how the team built leads as a positive sign and try to marginalize the blowing of said leads. I cannot write that this time for two important reasons. First, this wasn't the Rays we just blew leads to. The Rays are a good/great team. The Angels are a bad team. Secondly, that was 12 games ago and the Mariners are just about out of time to right the ship.
I thought this 2010 team had potential to be a playoff contender. I still think they did. They have not played up to that label though. Bad luck has played a part in it as I have strenuously tried to point out. Not as a means to explain away the entirety of our disappointment, but as a goal to understanding where part of the misfortune was occurring. Bad luck isn't the whole story. I tried to never claim it was.
This team has suffered a lot of bad luck. They have also played amazingly poorly. At the plate, on the bases, in the field, on the mound. I don't know what, if anything, the management will do as a reaction to the team's performance. I only urge people to try and remain grounded.
It's so easy when expectations are not met to look for a scapegoat. Just ask Alan Cockrell. And I understand wanting to vent frustration, but please keep in mind that each of us is just one of thousands wanting to vent that frustration and there are but a handful of people who take their time, with little reward, to comb through all the comments moderating this site. I don't want to have to read tens of thousands of reactionary comments about who needs to get fired. Do you? What does it accomplish?
I'm not putting a kibosh on any and all dissent or anything, just asking that people take 15 seconds and try to be even-keeled. Hey, if you really think Wak, or anyone, deserves to be fired, then start compiling a list of reasons why you think so and make it a FanPost. Make it rigorous. Provide comparisons to other managers. Offer possible replacements and what they might do differently. Make it like this. Make it worthy of discussion. Make it worthy of LL.
Mon June 31, 19:10: Doug Fister vs. Francisco Liriano*
Tue June 01, 19:10: Jason Vargas* vs. Nick Blackburn
Wed June 02, 19:10: Cliff Lee* vs. Kevin Slowey
Thu June 03, 19:10: Felix Hernandez vs. Carl Pavano
Meanwhile, as irritating as this season has been, it still continues and baseball is great. It's a wonderful thing and the highs wouldn't be as high without the lows for comparison. Minnesota comes to town playing some fantastic baseball and you could plan on going to any of these games without even the fear of ending up at an Ian Snell start!
Take a look at the BB ratings for the Minnesota starters. 35, 75, 80 and 75. WHICH DOES NOT BELONG AND WHY? WHICH DOES NOT BELONG AND WHY?
League average walk rates for a starting pitcher are around 8% by the way and all four of the Twins' starters this series are below that mark this year. Liriano has demonstrably improved his control over the past couple injury-filled seasons. I'll take this chance to note again that the below ratings are compiled over multiple years of data.
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I still care
I’m just going to have to start enjoying individual performances like Guti, Ichiro, Felix, etc. There’ve been some huge black holes this year, but there’s also been really pleasant surprises like Fister, Vargas, and Saunders.
And hey, we could finish in front of the Angels for the first time since 2003.
Do you want to hear about my fantasy team?
by Cantu Easley Winn on May 31, 2010 2:52 PM PDT reply actions
Good god almighty, the Mariners cannot hit.
I can't resist clicking "Rec" when I see a post with four [of them] already.
We've actually been okay for a couple weeks
by Jeff Sullivan on May 31, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
See Sweeney, Mike
Do you want to hear about my fantasy team?
by Cantu Easley Winn on May 31, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The overarching trend remains.
I can't resist clicking "Rec" when I see a post with four [of them] already.
by thehemogoblin on May 31, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
The Twins are going to crush the ever loving shit out of the M's.
Maybe the M’s will steal one game, but anyone who isn’t at least sort of mentally preparing themselves for a 4 game sweep is a fool. A happy fool, but a fool nonetheless.
I held on longer than a lot of my friends this season, but those 2 walk-off loses against the stupid fucking Angels leading into a 4 game series with the Twins has me feeling hopelessly depressed about this year’s team.
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on May 31, 2010 4:01 PM PDT reply actions
That is incredibly despressing considering we are sending our four best pitchers against them.
I can’t believe I consider Fister and Vargas competent starters.
If ever a game to start Ken Griffey, Jr., tonight is it.
The Twins are starting Michael Cuddyer at second base because Orlando Hudson is out. At least, that’s what the line-up sheet says.
I can't resist clicking "Rec" when I see a post with four [of them] already.
Lineup
Ichiro
Figgins
Gutierrez
Bradley
Sweeney
Lopez
Wilson
Johnson
Tuiasosopopopo
Do you want to hear about my fantasy team?
by Cantu Easley Winn on May 31, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Sweeney at DH or 1st?
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on May 31, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Wak's fascination with Tui continues
Do you want to hear about my fantasy team?
by Cantu Easley Winn on May 31, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
*inserts barrel into mouth*
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on May 31, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
You know, it would help me remain grounded...
… if I wasn’t seeing the new incarnation of Princess Willie, Hometown Hero on a regular basis.
GOD
by eponymous_coward on May 31, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Willie Boom Boom had some value, though. Tui on the other hand isn't good at anything.
by Susheel Ramasahayam on May 31, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
He's good at being a hometown hero!
Awwww, he’s a Husky, awwwww.
by eponymous_coward on May 31, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
He is not a Husky.
He was drafted out of high school and walked away from an LOI he signed to play football at UW.
He died.
He’s dead to Wak anyway.
David Eckstein is gonna fuck you up, Niehaus. - Jeff
by the other side on May 31, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Our 1B is batting 9th
Wow
Rob Johnson invented AIDS
by I Lick Squirrels on May 31, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Going to tonight's game.
And I am actually excited. Even if we lose, I like the Twins and will enjoy watching Fister. Plus, I will not give up all hope until there’s absolutely no way to come back.
Odds are very good this won't happen until September!
Mathematical elimination is fairly rare in August.
by eponymous_coward on May 31, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Trying to stay grounded
But in reality, I’m so fucking disappointed I could cry.
by lemonverbena on May 31, 2010 5:18 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I like this site and feel like I'm coming from the same place as most people here, fandomwise,
that I’m not going to be a crybaby about this fucked-up season over and over and over again. I’ve expressed myself here and there on different issues. I don’t need to repeat the same shit 300 times.
Everyone here knows all the stuff that’s gone wrong. I’ve already kicked my dog a few times. He’s suffered enough. I still like baseball better than the NBA.
ignacio
Got stuck on fandomwise. Nice word.
David Eckstein is gonna fuck you up, Niehaus. - Jeff
by the other side on May 31, 2010 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I like cancer better than the NBA.
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on May 31, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I like cancer better than Player A.
Or the Angels.
by eponymous_coward on May 31, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions

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