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5/30: Open Game Thread, Part 2

Worst baseball game of the year. Awful.

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Agreed.

And we’ve scored seven runs!

by Eyeball Kid on May 30, 2010 3:09 PM PDT reply actions  

STRIKE WOOOO

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

STRIKE TWO YES

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Is that allowed?

Do you want to hear about my fantasy team?

by Cantu Easley Winn on May 30, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is what allowed

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shawn Kelley kinda looks like Leonardo DiCaprio.

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on May 30, 2010 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

WTF

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

AHAHAHA

WHAT THE FUCK

Embrace floorlessness.

by esoteric on May 30, 2010 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

BAHAHAHAHAHA

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on May 30, 2010 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on May 30, 2010 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

UNFUCKINGBELIEVEABLE

HOW MANY DIFFERENT WAYS CAN WE FIND TO GIVE UP A RUN

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on May 30, 2010 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Let's lose this game!

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on May 30, 2010 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Jesus

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

WHAT THE FUCK

M's fan in the Bay, soon to be LA

by perfectstrat on May 30, 2010 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Least fun win?

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

THANK YOU THANK TOU THANKYOU

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

SCARED FOR LIFE CHRIST

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

As depressing as this has been to watch

we’re somehow still winning. But maybe that’s just because there is a delay on my mlb.tv feed…

by exquisitedeadguy on May 30, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

"At this rate we'll be going through a case of.............antacids"

Yeah I’m sure that’s what you wanted to say Sims.

You're dead to me.

by Goose on May 30, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I think of us need some advil

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

* Most

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

To Wak,

Kelley must be your next Jesus. Believe in him!

by IlliniM on May 30, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Lopie....

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

'Hammered foul'

That about sums it up for Kotch so far.

by Eyeball Kid on May 30, 2010 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

NOT A BALL

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I may have said this before, but Casey Kotchman looks like a mole.

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on May 30, 2010 3:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice try Kotch

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Yuni like...

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I like Dave Sims asking if the M's can keep the Angels "off" the board

That is the wrong question. The question is can the M’s stop “putting” the Angels on board.

by Coug1990 on May 30, 2010 3:23 PM PDT reply actions  

KELLYS BACK YAY

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:24 PM PDT reply actions  

My bad

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

SIT THE FUCK DOWN SON

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:27 PM PDT reply actions  

FUCK

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Darn.

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on May 30, 2010 3:28 PM PDT reply actions  

One run game!

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on May 30, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I HATE THIS GAME

Do you want to hear about my fantasy team?

by Cantu Easley Winn on May 30, 2010 3:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh dear

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on May 30, 2010 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Kelley gives up a lot of home runs.

This is going to be the worst loss ever.

FUCK THE MARINERS!

by Fuckmikereilly on May 30, 2010 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Aw hamburgers.

Are you in an abusive relationship with the Seattle Mariners?

by Jeremariner on May 30, 2010 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

NICE PLAY

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey at least Aardsma can get a save!

Unless we blow it, which seems very likely.

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on May 30, 2010 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm turning on the Xbox.

The best case scenario won’t make me feel any better, and watching us finishing blow it will ruin my afternoon.

by doublemazaa on May 30, 2010 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Damn straight.

If we’re gonna play The Most Annoying Game In The World, we might as well be the ones to win, not those fuckers.

by jwolf0 on May 30, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have the 5th worst record in MLB

A few key injuries, a Cliff Lee trade, and with our bad luck persisting we could theoretically have the worst record at the end of the 2010 season and thus be eligible for the 1st overall pick in the 2011 draft. But probably not.

by JLC on May 30, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ichibomb please?

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:34 PM PDT reply actions  

ICHIRO WOOO WOOO WOOO

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't throw the same pitch twice to Ichiro!!

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by Jeremariner on May 30, 2010 3:36 PM PDT reply actions  

I love how Ichiro makes himself look bad on a pitch

to bait the pitcher into throwing another one!

(see walkoff vs. Toronto last year)

by jwolf0 on May 30, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still impressed.

He was there for a while waiting for it with his belly on the top of the wall. Just hangin’ out.

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by Jeremariner on May 30, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cmon Figgy

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Not soley. No. Yesterday was flat out retarded though.

Sweeney was going to hit for Johnson instead of Tui…why?

"It's a light bat"

by DHforHOF on May 30, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's not perfect. No manager is.

But firing him is reactionary and not going to solve anything.

by Matthew on May 30, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok so here we go again. get in line... right?

What exactly to the masses think one should be fired for then if it’s not atrocious decisions late in games or horrible line up calls or the apparent lack of preparation & leadership.

"It's a light bat"

by DHforHOF on May 30, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

You will never find a manager who does everything right

and Wak’s decisions are not the problem. What does firing him accomplish?

by Jeff Sullivan on May 30, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have used Colome, Kelley, Texeira

League is probably unavailable, Aardsma will undoubtedly pitch an inning. Jesus Wak, be less terrible and warm up…erm…

FUCK THE MARINERS!

by Fuckmikereilly on May 30, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Turned on the game in the 7th

Moot point though since Kelley stayed in and has looked good

by Nick S on May 30, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somebody called Figger a traitor.

Figger looked concerned.

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on May 30, 2010 3:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Umm so apperently he cant throw strikes

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Damn guti

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

GET MAD BRADLEY

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Damn

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

This is driving me crazy.

It’s like I know we’re gonna lose but I’m not sure how painful it will be.

by ThundaPC on May 30, 2010 3:46 PM PDT reply actions  

I could be at Folklife right now but nooo.

The Mariners had to go and make me care about them.

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by Jeremariner on May 30, 2010 3:46 PM PDT reply actions  

BAD BASERUNNING WOOO

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

What the hell happened? MLB.TV GRRR!

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on May 30, 2010 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Stupidity Angels

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

AHAHAHAHAHA

Angels Baseball: So annoying we piss ourselves off!

by jwolf0 on May 30, 2010 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Whoa, MLB.tv came back late there

I was greeted by ’EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE’S OUT’

by Eyeball Kid on May 30, 2010 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Me too.

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on May 30, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

SIT DOWN

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Hes fucking dealing

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Hyphen

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

No we're not.

Nobody except Kelley will likely be unavailable tomorrow

by Matthew on May 30, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Who would fill Kelley’s role of Bullpen awesomeness?

by IlliniM on May 30, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't care if that was a bad call on the Aybar play

We deserve a break.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on May 30, 2010 3:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Meh

The way this season has gone, we deserve a lot of breaks to rebalance the karma.

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by skywaker9 on May 30, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe the gods would give us a title

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or at least not another crap losing season.

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by skywaker9 on May 30, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

As fair as Catcher's Interference

At this point I don’t care. We’ll take what we can get.

by jwolf0 on May 30, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kelley is good.

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on May 30, 2010 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

KK FUCK YEAH

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

SIT DOWN ABREU!

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by skywaker9 on May 30, 2010 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

I just noticed

…Alfonzo is wearing a Tacoma Rainiers helmet while catching.

by FrayLo on May 30, 2010 3:55 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I thought he was, but I wasn't sure.

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on May 30, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sucks Bradley's the only guy without a hit

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh good its Rodney. We have a chance

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Sweeney gave it a nice try

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

C'mon Lopiewalk!

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by Jeremariner on May 30, 2010 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Weee!

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by Jeremariner on May 30, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOPIE WALKS WOW

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Fuck No

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kotchwalkit!

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by Jeremariner on May 30, 2010 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

WOW KOTCH WALK

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Hahaha GIDP he fits right in

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Here we go

Time to close the case.

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by skywaker9 on May 30, 2010 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

All I ask is that this godforsaken game doesn't go into extras.

I’m a cynic.

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by Jeremariner on May 30, 2010 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Buckle your seatbealts, men and women

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Why would we not pinch hit there?

I understand he’s had a home run and 4 RBI today, but he’s Eliezer Alfonzo.

Also, Kotch easily could have gotten into more of a rundown to avoid the DP.

FUCK THE MARINERS!

by Fuckmikereilly on May 30, 2010 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

NOT A STRIKE

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 4:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh you bitch

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 4:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Damn

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by skywaker9 on May 30, 2010 4:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Looked like a strike to me.

Maybe Alfonso interfered by catching it?

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by Jeremariner on May 30, 2010 4:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Sam Holbrook and the tale of the incredible shrinking strike zone

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by skywaker9 on May 30, 2010 4:10 PM PDT reply actions  

If they hit a walk-off homerun

They get to test out their new walk-off proceedures

by ThundaPC on May 30, 2010 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

HEART ATTACK CHRIST

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Breathe, breathe

Too close.

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by skywaker9 on May 30, 2010 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

OK WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

At least its only one base

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by skywaker9 on May 30, 2010 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

NOT A STRIKE

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 4:13 PM PDT reply actions  

OH MY GOD

Aardsma needs an extra inch on his wingspan.

by jwolf0 on May 30, 2010 4:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Or some glue in his fucking glove

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shit

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 4:15 PM PDT reply actions  

GIDP. PLEASE.

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on May 30, 2010 4:15 PM PDT reply actions  

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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by EequalsMc2 on May 30, 2010 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

FUCK!

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by skywaker9 on May 30, 2010 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

WE SUCK.

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on May 30, 2010 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

HAPPY FUCKING MEMORIAL DAY!!!!!!!!

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by Jeremariner on May 30, 2010 4:17 PM PDT reply actions  

FUCK

I like blackjack.I'm not addicted gambling.I'm addicted to sitting in a semi-circle.

by JHobbs on May 30, 2010 4:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Pathetic. I quit.

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on May 30, 2010 4:17 PM PDT reply actions  

He has his flashes.

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by TheAngelsColts on May 30, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was well-hit

It also seemed to have a bit of carry to it. I was surprised it went out. Regardless, it’s not like it was a meatball like League’s pitch to Morales yesterday. I’m not terribly mad at Aardsma.

FUCK THE MARINERS!

by Fuckmikereilly on May 30, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

SAW THAT COMING

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by JHobbs on May 30, 2010 4:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Contraction

Turn Safeco into a parking garage.

Carlos Silvelite

by OceanBird on May 30, 2010 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on May 30, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can see where Don Quixote was coming from..

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by Jeremariner on May 30, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

He must have been a Mariners fan.

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by Jeremariner on May 30, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck this, I'm going to Folklife.

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by Jeremariner on May 30, 2010 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Meh.

You're dead to me.

by Goose on May 30, 2010 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm so sorry, LL.

Life is not being fair to you. At all. That fucking sucked.

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by Leopold Bloom on May 30, 2010 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

It's fair.

We’re really that terrible.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on May 30, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys are so similar to us, it's not real.

We just seem to win the 1-run games this year and y’all seem to be losing them all. And two walk off wins, especially against the hated Slegna is not fair.

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by Leopold Bloom on May 30, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're really that terrible though.

Every game has about 3 or four ridiculous baserunning mistakes, among many, many other things. This team loses games on its own. It’s not just the 8th inning onward – most of the runs this team scores are undeserved, and it purposely tries to score less runs throughout the game, and that’s not even discussing the bullpen management. It’s really not a good team. This is a bad team.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on May 30, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not convinced of this.

Depending on how you define “decent.”

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on May 30, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

.500 or real close will win the west.

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by Leopold Bloom on May 30, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

For discussion:

1) Do you consider the massive amount of baserunning errors a lack of skill or simply poor playing?
2) wOBAr is based on previous BABIP for individual outcomes, but is it possible that they are simply hitting it much worse?
3) Our bullpen, a should-be strength, was made worse by the changes to League’s delivery, Colome, Aardsma’s struggles, etc..

I have a feeling I have a different answer to these than you, so to me this is a less than decent team.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on May 30, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys are solid.

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by Leopold Bloom on May 30, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please win the west.

You’re the only other AL West team I can stand, and we’re obviously not going to.

by Rowsdower on May 30, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm really not convinced it can.

One of these days I’ll use a fanpost to illustrate some thoughts on the idea.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on May 30, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, read AC's.

I’m not convinced that our team’s talent could make this work.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on May 30, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

This model can work.

This collection of talent is not good enough to make it work.

by Aaron Campeau on May 30, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

This team was constructed where some things had to work out.

Almost none of them have. Plus, we’re terribly unlucky. Thus, we suck.

Kinda makes GMZ’s optimism in the Times a bit, erm, out of place though.

by eponymous_coward on May 30, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

The back of the rotation

and Lopez’s move to 3B have worked out wonderfully. More than wonderfully. It’s not like everything has gone wrong. You can contribute much of it to bad luck, but the roster just wasn’t constructed to win this division. It’s not GMZ’s fault, of course. Too many constraints.

FUCK THE MARINERS!

by Fuckmikereilly on May 30, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Part of the back of the rotation's worked out OK.

Keep in mind Snell and RRS are a chunk of “back of the rotation”.

If you don’t think the non-Griff/Sweendawg parts of the roster hitting at career norms and an extra month of Cliff Lee would have us ~.500, I really don’t know what to say, other than “I think you’re wrong”. The Rangers are 26-23, and I don’t see why a roster like this isn’t capable of contending IF most of it isn’t hitting below the Mendoza line.

by eponymous_coward on May 30, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

We've had our share of bad luck.

That being said, it was a very risk-filled roster. It was counting on performances out of Kotchman, Vargas, Fister, Griffey, Bradley, and a handful of relievers. None were a certainty. A few panned out, a few didn’t. We couldn’t have anticipated Lopez and Figgins struggling this badly, but I don’t think career average performances from them would have saved this team. We would still probably be in it, but the talent just isn’t there.

FUCK THE MARINERS!

by Fuckmikereilly on May 30, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd say that it was constructed well, given the situation (cumulative Bavasi buttfuck to the farm system and major league organization, weak FA class, and apparent budget constraints).

Obviously, there are several players on this roster that you wouldn’t normally expect on a “well-constructed” team, but I have to keep reminding myself that the M’s lost 101 games just a month and a half ago. That we even expect to do well is saying something.

by Matt Erickson on May 30, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it was constructed with a great deal of inherent risk.

The risks didn’t work out, or at least haven’t so far. It was probably close to as well put together as it could have been, but the bust potential was there and it appears to have been realized.

by Aaron Campeau on May 30, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seconded.

I have so much respect for that team, even if I do want to punch a baby whenever we play them.

by Matt Erickson on May 30, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rationally, I feel I shouldn't hate the Rangers.

They’re well-constructed with a shitload of young talent, including some I love, like Andrus. Maybe I just don’t like Michael Young.

And I really love Brett Anderson.

FUCK THE MARINERS!

by Fuckmikereilly on May 30, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh, they're chair-throwers.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on May 30, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Disgusting game absolutely disgusting

I’m glad I didn’t decide to pay money to see this one.

[DELETED ZOMG NO POLITICS]

by bluemax on May 30, 2010 4:20 PM PDT reply actions  

SEASON OVER

TRADE LEE FOR A TALENTED LITTLE LEAGUER

FIRE AARDSMA INTO THE SUN

FORCE GRIFFEY TO RETIRE AT GUNPOINT

by craig3410 on May 30, 2010 4:20 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

"FIRE AARDSMA INTO THE SUN"

This phrase pops up ever now and then, but never fails to amuse me.

Embrace floorlessness.

by esoteric on May 30, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Disregard women, acquire currency.

"I just don't understand these newfangled defensive stats. I mean, what’s a 3? Who decides what that means? It all seems pretty arbitrary to me." ---- acblue

by .Taylor on May 30, 2010 4:26 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm tired of watching this team.

They are miserable to watch, Wak keeps sending in Colome, and it’s time to blow this train of crap up.

Someone wants Lee? Great, trade him. Get something worth it.
Someone wants Lopez? Gone.
Someone wants Figgins? Bye.
Someone wants RR-S and Snell? Bucket of balls.
Someone wants Fister and Vargas? Buy low, sell high.

Felix, Guti, and Ichiro are staying. Everyone else is on the table, and we’ll take what we can get.

Roscoe’s Carpet Emporium.Roscoe’s Carpet Emporium.

by Henry Valz on May 30, 2010 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Umm... this won't solve much.

Unless you plan on getting better pitchers than Vargas, Snell, RRS, and Fister for Figgins and Lopez and better 2nd/3rd basemen than Lopez and Figgins for Vargas, Snell, Fister, and RRS.

by Matt Erickson on May 30, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently the Angels are looking for a first baseman. I know where they can get one.

by Henry Valz on May 30, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

When you put together Aardsma, League, Sean White etc

this bullpen has really blown a lot of games.

ignacio

by ignacio on May 30, 2010 4:45 PM PDT reply actions  

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