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Biggest Contribution: Ken Griffey Jr., +29.2%
Biggest Suckfest: Chone Figgins, -14.5%
Most Important AB: Griffey single, +29.2%
Most Important Pitch: Bautista homer, -25.8%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -3.2%
Total Contribution by Lineup: +53.2%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
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Career .312 wOBA, so he's clearly playing over his head with the bat so far.

But that’s higher than Roborob’s career or projections, and just by watching he looks better defensively (hard to be worse). But Moore clearly should be better. Just needs seasoning. So if that happens in AAA this year, I’m okay with it.

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by appleshampoo on May 20, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew we would win.

Only a matter of time. Today was the day.

by ThundaPC on May 20, 2010 3:33 PM PDT reply actions  

No.

This unfortunately means his leash will probably be loosened a little bit more and we’ll have to experience mediocrity with him a little bit more.

by seiferguy on May 20, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why is this the predominant emotion after this?

We won the fucking game and did so in a dramatic and heartwarming fashion. Can we cut the “Oh now we have to watch him for 3 more months” stuff until we see that happen? THIS WAS A FUN BASEBALL GAME!

Not trying to jump on you specifically.

by TheBishop on May 20, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions   6 recs

I know, and I sort of dislike the fact that I'm conflicted about the win.

We won, and we needed to win, but this game was as joyless and dull as all the rest up until the point Kevin Gregg absolutely lost his command. It’s great that someone else’s bullpen went kablooie for a change, and it’s great that we get a cool WPA chart for once, but I hope you understand where I’m coming from even if you disagree with it.

by marc w on May 20, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

And as an acknowledgment to Jeff above you got it. The last thing I’m trying to do is pass judgment on other folks’ fandom. I just want to be happy. I’m aware of all the potential bad process/good result consequences this result may bring for the rest of the day I’m going to watch that single and the team go apeshit and feel damn good.

Cheers.

by TheBishop on May 20, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I imagine most everybody is feeling pretty good

but people would rather post something snarky than something celebratory, because this is the internet.

by Jeff Sullivan on May 20, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was already pretty sour heading into the game.

The back-to-back bunts to get one run was insanely dumb in the third inning of a game against a team that can hang quite a few runs on you. Then more bunts. I just felt we didn’t deserve to win and I didn’t want to see us rewarded for such nonsense. (I’ve given up hopes of contending this year, otherwise I’d take a win any way it came.) And then the “how could anyone possibly fail here” construction of the Griffey moment . . .

I know we’ve had some bad luck and deserve some good luck, but I’m just in a pissy mood. This team doesn’t make me happy right now. Even when it wins, apparently.

I need a nap.

by Teej on May 20, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair

Ichiro and Figgins were bunting for hits, which is completely different than dropping a sacrifice bunt.

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by etowncoug on May 20, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm happy we won, of course, but...

Griffey has cost us more games than he has won them up to this point. It’s good he finally came through, but I want to be realistic about this.

by seiferguy on May 20, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel just like Seiferguy, but I'll admit that I hate that I feel that way.

I should be happy that we won, but one victory from a flawed roster that is probably going to continue to be extra flawed because today’s win will play well to the lowest common denominator of Mariners fans just doesn’t fill me with anything but…dread.

by Jeff Nye on May 20, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

This WE chart would look much more familiar if it was upside down.

After losing several games where we were 85+% favorites, it’s nice to return the favor for once.

by Chris Hafner on May 20, 2010 3:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Bard really impressed me today.

He had some great at-bats. Great results from those AB’s. AND HE WAS ABLE TO HOLD ON TO THE BALL!

Karma police, arrest this man.

by wyte_lightning on May 20, 2010 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I didn't see the game. Of course I'll like it if they start winning (and hitting) some.

It makes sense that sooner or later Griffey would get a hit. And good for Bard.

ignacio

by ignacio on May 20, 2010 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Gregg completely lost in the 9th

It was bad.

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by skywaker9 on May 20, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Barry Larkin
This proves that there is clearly a place for [Griffey] on this team. It’s just a question of: “Is he comfortable with it?”

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by philkid3 on May 20, 2010 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

There is a place on this team for Griffey

In the front office doing PR.

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by skywaker9 on May 20, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was comfortable with it when he signed on for 2010, or at least it was reported that way

It was just bad roster/lineup decisions that have put him in a nearly full-time DH role.

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by appleshampoo on May 20, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Winning is good

Wak’s decision-making still sucks. Half-expecting him to send Griffey up there to bunt…

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by skywaker9 on May 20, 2010 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Its why we won

That I’m sure of.

The team responded to his departure with their best play in a while.

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by skywaker9 on May 20, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did the Josh Bard sacrifice...

decrease the WE? Is that what that notch is?

by run_dmo on May 20, 2010 4:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep

According to fangraphs, it dropped our WE% from 73.0% to 69.8%.

by Karma Police on May 20, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Didn’t know where to look. I would have thought the positive of the tying run would have outweighed the negative of the out … but I guess my intuition is wrong.

by run_dmo on May 20, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've decided it is fun to go to games when you become pessimistic.

At today’s game my buddy and I were guessing how they’d “almost win.” Would they have the lead going into the 9th before they blew it? Would they have the bases loaded down by 1 and no outs and hit into a game ending triple play? Even though you become pessimistic though, you still want to win, and seeing a win like this is just as exciting possibly even more so.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on May 20, 2010 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I remember being conflicted because we wanted a win but a loss was so much fucking better.

Then they won and it was like “Wow, they can literally do nothing right.” I forgot a lot of the play by play of that game though. Still, if I remember right that was the only decisive victory of the series.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on May 20, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

We drank at 11am.

I woke up ~30 minutes before that one like 3 hours of sleep. Mariners baseball!

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on May 22, 2010 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Moore shouldn't go away entirely.

Tacoma shouldn’t hurt him if he’s working on certain things, but I think his overall skills are probably a touch better than Johnson. He can hit the other way, for example, while Rob is more inclined to pull the ball, not good for a RH in Safeco.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on May 20, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tuned in in the seventh to see Bard double and get stranded.

Now to figure out what in the blue blazes just happened…

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on May 20, 2010 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I have watched the videos.

I have seen Ichiro run out to high five Milton Bradley, which apparently took camera priority over the Griffey mobbing.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on May 20, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, THAT was an unexpected outcome.

I’d last heard they had a baserunner in the 9th, and you know that wasn’t going to result in anything.,

by msb on May 20, 2010 5:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Or a bad player being both bad and stupid.

There’s no need to blame the coaching staff for the bad bunts they didn’t order when there are other bad bunts that they did order. Players are perfectly capable of doing stupid things regardless of the quality of their coaching.

by drblacknwhite on May 20, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, but you're horizontal

So your lack of actually speed is more than made up for by your new position in space.

by DrunkAmerican on May 20, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Consider how far forward you can stretch your leg when you're running

I don’t know the science or math behind this, but I’m pretty sure diving blows.

by Jeff Sullivan on May 20, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure running is faster because you are able to apply force the whole time

Maybe it might barely be worth diving but when you dive, you’d have to do it so that you don’t hit the ground before you get to 1B. If you hit the ground I imagine the friction would slow you down alot. Nobody would slid like this because you’d probably break your hand.

by Edgar for Pres on May 20, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Diving to first isn't useful because extending your leg is simply more effective

Other kinds of diving make sense because you’re trying to get your hand to the point of contact instead of your foot.

by DrunkAmerican on May 20, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Allow me to say

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by longwinded on May 20, 2010 9:15 PM PDT reply actions  

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