This Is Why It Still Hurts
In a somewhat surreal sort of way, I remember the moment I became a Mariners fan. It was a Thursday, I was ten years old and I'd lived in Washington for a very short time. I loved baseball, but my concept of fandom was rather warped. My great aunt wanted me to be a Braves fan, but she was a racist and a terrible human being in most every way. She hated the Cardinals and so I gravitated towards them, to the extent that a small child is capable of doing so. She caught on and she whipped me. I decided to abandon the pursuit outwardly, as she was fairly strong and more than a bit sadistic.
For some reason I became enamored with the Houston Astros. I think it was how amazingly terrible their uniforms were. I asked my dad if they were a good team when I spotted their jersey in the sporting goods store. He laughed and said no. I asked him to buy it for me. I developed a love for Mike Scott. I inherited a Don Newcombe rookie card from my Grandfather and I traded it for a Mike Scott All-Star card with that was bent in the middle. I remember spending my entire allowance on USA Today in an effort to vote Craig Biggio into the All-Star game as a rookie catcher.
I still secretly loved the Cardinals, and thanks to seeing Bo Jackson play for the Memphis Chicks and a random business trip my mother took that resulted in the gift of a shiny new cap, I cheered the Royals as well. But I was officially an Astros fan, for the most bizarre reasons. I had no concept of the fact that my love of the Astros and Cardinals was counter-intuitive; I was a kid. I knew that I liked Ozzie and I liked orange stripes and that was enough for me.
We left Memphis fairly soon after I developed my attachments, and with it regular Cardinals games became a thing of the past. I still like the Astros and the Royals, but for whatever reason the attachment felt weakened by distance. I wasn't ready to love (or even like) the Mariners, or any other Seattle area team for that matter. I didn't like it here. I didn't like the people that made fun of my accent. I didn't like not being able to have grits for breakfast. I didn't like the rain. People seemed mean.
I missed Tennessee, and I actively hated the Mariners, Seahawks, Sonics, Tacoma Stars, Huskies, Cougars, and whoever it was that competed in this thing called the Bacon Bowl. They were a symbol of the Northwest, of the kids that made fun of my accent, of everything that wasn't what I was familiar with. I watched the teams, but I rooted for them to fail, as though somehow their lack of success would cause my parents to rethink their decision, pack up and head back south.
Which brings us to that Thursday night in April, 14 years ago. I settled in to watch, wanting nothing more than to see the Red Sox humiliate the Mariners, if only because it would make my classmates sad the next day. And then Chris Bosio went and pitched a no-hitter. I'd never seen one before, and it was the most remarkable thing I'd ever witnessed. I know now, of course, that it was largely a function of luck and defense, but at the time I was ten years old; to me, at that moment, it was magic.
I forced my mom to get up early the next day and buy me a Mariners hat at the gas station down the street. It was a cheap piece of shit, and the kids at school all thought it was an attempt to fit in, but I didn't care. I was hooked. I loved this team, and by extension I loved the northwest. It was the first time I felt any connection to the region and while it'd not what made me love it here it certainly opened the door. A few years later Chevron has a promotion where they gave away five balls with photos of Mariners on them. There was Griffey, Edgar, Buhner, Alex and Bosio. I had the whole collection, and they're all still in my possession, but the only one that I can pinpoint the location of is the Bosio ball. Not because any real affection for Bosio remained, but because his unsightly visage reminded me of the moment I became a northwesterner.
1995 happened, and it was awesome. So was 1997. So was 2000. 2001 was the best year of my life as a sports fan. And then there was everything that has happened since. The Bavasi years were, it should go without saying, a very dark period in my fandom. But I never had much faith that things would improve. I recognized that period in time for what it was;, a period in which the Mariners were likely to be a bad team with little hope for the future, at best lucking into semi-contention.
And then came Zduriencik. I was skeptical that the correct decision would be made, and when it was I was skeptical (some might say cynical) that things would improve. And then we pulled Blengino away from Milwaukee, and we hired Tom Tango, and we traded for Gutierrez. And I felt like we finally got it.
And really, I feel like we still do. I still think that Jack Zduriencik is a very good General Manager, I still feel like the processes he uses are intelligent, and I still feel like the franchise is in good hands. But the team, as of right now, is in bad shape. And while I believe that the future is bright, I do not think that it would would be controversial to say that the team, as of now, is being mismanaged. Whatever the reasons may ultimately be.
I've been through some terrible periods with this team. Many of them I do not have the information to judge, but some of them I do and those periods were the darkest in my memory. I am aware that things were far worse pre-1995, but I also know that minor success can be a monumental curse.
To summarize, I do not wish to go back to the Bavasi era. The excitement surrounding the organization this off-season was palpable, and to be fair the team has shit the bed. The reasons for their failings have been hashed and re-hashed, but I do not believe that it would be controversial to suggest the at least one aadjustment would lead to a noticeable improvement.
My point, then, is this; I want Zduriencik to succeed because I believe that he is well suited to move the organization forward. I fear that if he does not that we will be cursed with leadership that sets the team back several years.
Please, do something, Jack. Not because I have lost faith in your vision, but because I am losing faith that you will have the opportunity to see your vision through. I trust Jack Zduriencik and I trust his plan, but I do not trust that he has a great deal of time to make it work, and I dont think the alternative is going ot be too greatly improved,
Just win, fellows. Just win, and preserve my hope for the future.
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Agreed
It still hurts, no matter how laughably bad it gets it always hurts somewhat. My story might be a little bit depressing for LL but, whatever. I became a fan of this team in 1994 when i was 9, mostly because my dad was going crazy over them and the potential they were showing. We watched the Mariners constantly together, it was sort of our thing and some of the best moments of my childhood were had at the Kingdome. In 1998 my dad passed away due to cardiac arrest at the age of 50, and being a 13 year old kid at the time it messed me up bad. But over time rediscovering the Mariners was liberating in terms of bringing some closure to his death. I don’t mean to share this for some melodramatic purpose, I just mean to convey that whatever shit I talk about this team is because I want them to win SO BAD and I think Jack is our best chance to do that that we have ever had as an organization, and I will put up with whatever shit gets thrown at us by luck to see it happen. It’s pretty clear this is not the year for us, but most of our problems cannot be pinned on our manager or GM. When you have a bunch of guys hitting under .200 for no good reason there isn’t a whole lot you can do. Z needs to be given time to build a good team through the draft, I think he can.
by OlSalty on May 19, 2010 2:00 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
They also let him expand the payroll considerably
Zduriencik has had to trim it each year he’s been here.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on May 19, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I trust the people above Zduriencik about as far as I can throw Zduriencik
by Aaron Campeau on May 19, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
That's really one of my biggest fears
Also, I wonder how much influence they had over the Griffey/Sweeney thing. The upper-office folks have made it no secret over the years that they’d rather put out a likable group of guys than a capable 25-man roster. Zduriencik just seems way too smart to have ever thought that Griffey would have still been able to produce, and that Sweeney would be useful here with Griffey already taking up a roster spot.
I really hope that they do the right thing and get the Griffey situation handled. Today
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on May 19, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Why I worry
I worry Zduriencik will not get nearly the leash Bavasi did, for a couple of reasons. Bavasi came into a team that many saw as being on the downslope. The team under his regime struggled for a couple of years, but the common fan saw it as him inheriting a sinking ship. He was given ample time to clear house and start anew. By the time people began expecting progress, 2007 happened. People saw progress. Of course, 2008 showed that it was really no progress at all, and he was fired.
Z came into an organization that was already sank. People expected at least moderate improvement from the 90-100 loss seasons. This season may not be much of an improvement over those (though I still believe we have the potential to end above that threshold). People will be a lot less patient for improvement this time.
FUCK THE MARINERS!
by Fuckmikereilly on May 19, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
On the other hand
Ownership declared that they had to make the right choice for a GM. They have a lot riding on Zduriencik and so I’m fairly certain that he’s going to get at least as much time as Bavasi has to turn things around. Trying to contend in 2010 is technically being “ahead of schedule” as far as the rebuilding process goes.
I would imagine Lincoln and Armstrong were very familiar with the downsides of this team since they wanted to be more inclusive to the process when they hired Zduriencik. And there’s still a ton of work to do to reach the organizational goal regardless of whether 2010 works out or not.
You were at the game?
I remember listening to it on the radio and my roommate and I almost took the bus downtown in the 7th to watch the end of the game.
It was televised on what I believe was called Rainbow Sports Northwest at that time.
by Aaron Campeau on May 19, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
KSTW was all we had in Seattle back then.
They didn’t televise home games and only showed like 20 games a year. Amazing how much that has changed in less than 20 years.
I remember getting a schedule
and looking ahead to see which games were televised and practically planning the next six months around it. I thought my dad was the most bad ass person ever because he taped every game he could.
I think he still has the VHS of the game where Alex Diaz hit a pinch hit grand slam against the A’s.
by FairWeatherFred on May 19, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
It was a three-run shot.
But that was one of my favorite baseball games ever. You may be thinking of Vince Coleman’s grand slam in the same game which I believe was the first of his career.
I must be,
I guess I can’t look back 15 years with as much accuracy as I originally thought.
by FairWeatherFred on May 19, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the fact that Chris Bosio helped you become a Mariners fan.
I feel like things like this just don’t happen any more. I don’t think some kid watches RRS throw a decent 6 innings and says, “That’s it, I love the Mariners.”
Great post, by the way.
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on May 19, 2010 5:14 PM PDT reply actions
Oh, I agree.
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on May 20, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
As someone who only recently moved here six years ago, I can completely relate to your story
of how difficult it is to fit in here in the northwest initially, and how the Mariners can really help ease the transition. More than anything, I know this may not sound right at first, but the Mariners have a pretty damn loyal fanbase. People may not go to the games all the time, but people are often aware of whats going on, even if their baseball knowledge is limited. There are plenty of Mariners promotions everywhere, and I feel partially the Mariners’ marketing has been really good, and having Safeco Field really helps. We may not have a nation and invade stadiums like the Yankees or Red Sox, but if you compare the Mariners fan base to the Florida Marlins (the team I rooted for before I moved here) and other struggling franchises, I think we’re pretty good.
This is not a bad team, I know it probably doesn’t bear repeating, but the losses have been really close and competitive to the point where it has been very annoying.
2010 Safeco Field Record: 0-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4
by Fin on May 19, 2010 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Funny that you mentioned the Chevron balls
as I just came into possession of two full sets of those a couple weeks ago. They’re even still wrapped in plastic.

















