5/15: Open Game Thread, Part 2
by Jeff Sullivan on May 15, 2010 3:09 PM PDT
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Hmmm....
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Griffey!
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaaaand we're back. Thanks Matthew.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Even when we get lucky (infield hit)
we get unlucky
I blame that injury on Rob. Fuck you Rob and you're goddamn back.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
*your.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Ooh how bout that.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah FOX, let's show just the losing pitcher
…I know strikeouts make for pretty pictures, but C’mon!
Nope
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on May 15, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck you BJ. Justin is better.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Good call.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
If we lose
it’s probably Adam Moore’s fault for not coming out of the game sooner.
James Shields: An example as to why individual wins/losses are not indicative of a pitcher's performance
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
Ouch. That hurts with its truthiness.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Blew up his fucking knee.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck you, Rob Johnson.
Call a better game. cERA, motherfucker!
Whatever happend to RJ Anderson
At DRays bay? He used to pop over here for gamethreads. I like that guy, and it doesn’t look like he’s at their site anymore.
Fascinatingly, your guess is accurate!
League is leagues better than White.
I see what you did there.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Excellent.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Pissing a rainbow?
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats the PG explanation I suppose.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh. Ohhhhhhh.....
I’m scarred now.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't Kelley pitch yesterday and didn't Brandon League not pitch yesterday?
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by Griffin Cooper on May 15, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Kelley threw last night.
Brandon is going on a day’s rest.
Kelley pitched yesterday, so technically League is more rested.
by drblacknwhite on May 15, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the correction, all!
You can really tell which game I didn’t watch recently…
You guys have really bailed on Wak
Its League. White was up when Vargas through 6 straight balls in the seventh
I give up on ever trying to understand Wak's bullpen calls.
Isn’t League working on only 1 days’ rest after being gassed?
Who else would he bring in?
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by Griffin Cooper on May 15, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Too damn bad isn't Naive American.
Could have called him Turok
Me too
Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...
I actually liked the newer one too.
Supposedly they were making a sequel in which you could play as a dinosaur, but it the game was cancelled.
Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...
Because the development studio sucked...
(speaking as a former video-game designer)
Those were awesome.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Flesh-colored gauges
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably a retainer.
He normally wears gauged earrings. The retainer keeps the holes from closing up or something, while looking like he doesn’t have anything there if you don’t look too closely.
MIKE BRUMLEY IS THE WORST PERSON EVER
by I Lick Squirrels on May 15, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Does WE take our staff into account?
If not, I don’t trust its that high…
He's been such a little ray of sunshine hasn't he?
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Hit it fair or don't hit it at all you
Travis Hafner wannabe.
Welp.
Looks like this game is gonna be a heartbreaker.
Why the fuck not. Right?
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Triple Play?
Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...
HELLA due.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
My goodness, McCarver sucks
“with the naked eye, as opposed to the closed eye….”
Jesus fucking Christ he's bringing in White
You’re a fucking retard Wak
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The best part is how one can actually say it right
then McCarver immediately pronounces it incorrectly.
by magistermilitum on May 15, 2010 3:24 PM PDT reply actions
OK, I was correct in my earlier comment:
I give up on fucking Wak’s bullpen calls.
Oh god NOW YOU BRING IN WHITE?
Fuck
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FUCK WE LOST
MIKE BRUMLEY IS THE WORST PERSON EVER
by I Lick Squirrels on May 15, 2010 3:24 PM PDT reply actions
This couldn't surely end badly.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
HERE COMES SEAN WHITE.
I hear that’s one of the signs of the Apocalypse, bringing in Sean White with the bases loaded in a 2-1 game.
McCarver?
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ichiro?
Because I think he deserves his job.
Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...
Killed it dude.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Guess who deserves to be left hanging?
by abender20 on May 15, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don Wakamatsu?
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I want Wak and White to get gay married and never return
by Poochie on May 15, 2010 3:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
SO what is Zobrist gonna do?
I call a 2-1 line drive down the LF line to put the Rays ahead 3-2.
You're just a ray of sunshine, aren't you?
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
You're always in these moods.
There’s a point where pessimism becomes fucking annoying. You’re always past that point.
by BrianL on May 15, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would we want a pitcher that can get strikeouts, when the bases are loaded?
Still like Z, am starting to really question Wak’s appropriateness for this club.
Someone's trying to join Hillman
Are you goddamn serious?
You and me Wakamatsu, we’re done. DONE
You can't be a catcher if you can't catch. Rob Johnson will henceforth be listed as a traffic cone on the roster.
What happened to Wak that made him retarded?
Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...
This move is so bad
I’m going to say that it’ll work out fine,just to spite us all.
I'm putting this loss on Wak.
He needs to get his act together FAST.
Need we argue semantics?
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully, this is the last time Wak brings in White in this situation.
I’d rather he’d have already learned this lesson, but May 15th it must end.
Having a solid lead until the bullpen gives it up.
I missed you, Nostalgia.
Hey look
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by Griffin Cooper on May 15, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Dear Sean White:
WORK DOWN IN THE ZONE YOU STUPID FUCK!
If by some miracle he manages to escape Zobrist
Longoria is going to eat him alive.
You can't be a catcher if you can't catch. Rob Johnson will henceforth be listed as a traffic cone on the roster.
I'll take it. I was expecting much worse.
But now Longoria is up.
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...
WELL FUCK THIS SHIT!
Adam Moore would have made that play
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He was there before the throw came in.
Rob ALWAYS mans the LH box.
I don't think Two Ass A Sopo was involved in the play
Let’s see what kind of glove he has on though, to be sure.
Just get out of this.
Cmon White – find a way! Keep it tied.
by seattlesundevil on May 15, 2010 3:29 PM PDT reply actions
I've just come to a shocking realization.
Sean White fucking blows.
Wak's Belief System involves the Tooth Fairy.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
And a fucking blindfold
Hmm let’s see whos pitching today. Eeny, meeny, miny, moe…
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus
HEY WAK, SEAN WHITE SUCKS!! DON'T USE HIM IN HIGH LEVERAGE SITUATIONS!!
Karma police, arrest this man.
Get well soon Mark Lowe
If my reliever is going to blow games, I at least want to like him.
You can't be a catcher if you can't catch. Rob Johnson will henceforth be listed as a traffic cone on the roster.
LOAFIE!
Apparently, you CAN play defense at 3B. Now hit some, damnit.
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 3:32 PM PDT reply actions
Jose Lopez and Gold Glove in the same sentence
without the words “will never win a” between them.
by Cantu Easley Winn on May 15, 2010 3:33 PM PDT reply actions
What the hell Wak.
League 2010 GB%= 60.6, 11th among relievers in MLB
White 2010 GB%= 44.4, 165465498498445654984654649th among relievers in MLB
In other news, LOAFIE!!!!!!!
White is that high?
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it bad that I kinda wish White had given up a Slam
So we could get rid of his ass??? Now Wak will keep him forever, just like Sweeney!
You still have post-season hopes...
…that’s so endearing!
Not at all.
It would have been awesome for my fantasy team.
by MarinerManMatt on May 15, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
No one cares, etc
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by Griffin Cooper on May 15, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
No one cares about your fantasy team.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I know I'm late to the party
But what the fuck, Wak?
by Eyebrows on May 15, 2010 3:33 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Belief system
Apparently Sean White being a quality reliever who needs to be used in high leverage situations is part of that for Wak.
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Clusterfuck, Clusterfuck, game tied.
Any questions?
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
DFA White to open a 40 man spot for Bard
MIKE BRUMLEY IS THE WORST PERSON EVER
by I Lick Squirrels on May 15, 2010 3:34 PM PDT reply actions
This wasn't the same thing as Baltimore Wak. Just Fucking stop it.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
In honor of Jose Lopez's catch, here is a picture of a bird, telling a dirty joke.
by katal on May 15, 2010 3:34 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Haha, Dave
“Here’s some idiot running out on the field”
by FairWeatherFred on May 15, 2010 3:35 PM PDT reply actions
Ichiro could.
Probably could get him in the balls if you wanted.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Great.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought the rule was...
No TV coverage of dumbasses who think WOOOO RUN ON THE FIELD
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 3:36 PM PDT reply actions
Why did they show that on the broadcast?
They used to pan away. I hate seeing that shit.
Leon Washington!
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Looked kind of like Eric Byrnes running after a fly ball.
But he’s playing softball, right?
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
There's some good youtube videos, I think.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you might be confused, Robert
I said the Seahawks!
Heartbreaking!
But so true. :(
Ouch. Thank you for that.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
"Evan Longoria, a very thoughtful tweeter"
Ladies and gentlmen, the 21st century
Anybody listening to the radio broadcast catch Dave's diss on Nelly?
Brought me a moment of joy in the midst of this slog
You! Cake or death?
by Torrid on May 15, 2010 3:37 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Rick said "He's gonna miss the Nelly concert." Dave, "might not be a bad thing to miss."
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahahaha.
Dave is so awesome.
Awesome. Hall of famer there.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Never mind, just noticed others posting about t
You! Cake or death?
by Torrid on May 15, 2010 3:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
So... I guess I'm missing something.
When did Nelly become part of this?
Oh yeah! Just fair down the left field line.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but it was all possible through the hug power of griffey.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay Zombie Sweeney
Brrraaaiinnssss
You can't be a catcher if you can't catch. Rob Johnson will henceforth be listed as a traffic cone on the roster.
Breaking his heart...hahaha just retire cmon
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus
Sexy leadoff walk
I’ll be pretty happy if the M’s can pull this one off after watching the Sean White Belief System almost fuck it up.
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 3:39 PM PDT reply actions
Come on, Big Man Mike!
Show them how not a rat you are!
EAT IT TAMPA
WE’LL RUN ON YOUR FRESH CATCHER TOO
Sweeney -
The nicest man in baseball? Violence isn’t the answer, Mike.
What was it this time. I turned them off long ago.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn. I mean wow.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
THANK YOU GUTI FOR YOUR STEAL,
you loveable rascal!
Ugh.
God damn you guys, stop talking about Nelly and Taylor Swift.
Rizzs started it.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet Two Ass A Sopo likes them
But McCarver is leaving the game in his boat before the concert starts.
I'm ready to do it.
I wish they had just the game sounds on SAP. I’d do it every time McCarver was on, not to mention whenever Joe Morgan is near a microphone.
I like listening to the crowd noise.
I wish I could selectively mute the announcers.
Absolutely.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Instead of cutting myself I listen to Tim McCarver.
It leaves deeper scars.
Dontrelle Willis apologist.
So we went from Nelly to Swift to Prince? What's next?
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus
Lopie, white?
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok I get it never mind.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
For a mexican, ya he is.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
So, the reliever usage is going to go like this:
League, White, Colome.
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 3:44 PM PDT reply actions
Good, bad, worse?
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Colome isn't terrible, he's just not really good.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
He is terrible for a bottom of the 9th against the Rays.
by seattlesundevil on May 15, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
TUI IS STILL HITTING
SORIANO IS PITCHING AND LANGERHANS IS ON THE BENCH
What the hell Wak.
Why are you letting Tui hit?
Jesus is coming to save the Rays record.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
At least we have Karlos and Kupton up
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I want them to interview Sweeney again if we win.
by Robert on May 15, 2010 3:45 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Red rocket! Red rocket!
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Results based analysis!
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by Griffin Cooper on May 15, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
He hit a line drive.
It’s hard to ask for a lot more than that.
Wak didn't know he was going to hit a line drive
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by Griffin Cooper on May 15, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
His point is in that situation there are better options no matter what he actually did.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Reply fail, but ya.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh don't get me wrong I agree that he shouldn't have been up there.
I’m just saying that Tui isn’t at fault for that at bat. You want to blame Wak for leaving him up there, fine, but that wasn’t my point.
With a close game, we had to depend on Sweeney, Lopez, and Tui. Now Colome.
To be fair, Tui was a victim of bad luck.
by Albert Poo Holes on May 15, 2010 3:49 PM PDT reply actions
I'm not mad at Tui.
He stung that ball the other way. But we didn’t have to depend on him. We had Kotch and Langersex on the bench.
I hate pitchers that can't throw a strike.
I don’t care that he throws the ball really hard. Get rid of him.
#52
In effect.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Although it is not officially over.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Oops fuck that.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Sweet, another 9th inning or later loss?
This shit is garbage. Win this game or not iya happened way too many times.
Carlos Silvelite
by OceanBird on May 15, 2010 3:50 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Is Z smart enough to pull a Jim Tracy this year?
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What an unbelievable sack of shit Jesus Colome is, by the way.
I had to watch this asshole with the Nats…can’t believe he’s still in baseball.
gay
MIKE BRUMLEY IS THE WORST PERSON EVER
by I Lick Squirrels on May 15, 2010 3:51 PM PDT reply actions
I'm done.
I’ll see y’all tomorrow.
I blame White
MIKE BRUMLEY IS THE WORST PERSON EVER
by I Lick Squirrels on May 15, 2010 3:51 PM PDT reply actions
WAKAMATSU YOU FUCKING ASSHAT
I AM DISPLEASED
by Cantu Easley Winn on May 15, 2010 3:51 PM PDT reply actions
I too, am displeased
….with the outcome of this baseball game.
Can we start a fire Wak bandwagon!
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus
They hire whoever doesn't use the words "belief" or "system" in their interview
by Cantu Easley Winn on May 15, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I;m sure things cant get worse than this?
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus
Just in time for the Sounders game.
FUCK YOU WAK! FUCK YOU WAK! FUCK YOU WAK! FUCK YOU WAK!
Karma police, arrest this man.
New Belief System
Wak might well be worse than Mike “Proven Veteran” Hargrove at using a bullpen.
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 3:52 PM PDT reply actions
Why has no deranged fan killed McCarver yet?
“It looked like a fastball… up…. and it was up…. and away…. for the win.”
No court would ever convict someone for getting rid of him.
This is fucking frightening. What the hell is that?
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
PLAYOFFS!
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Could Kelly have worked back-to-back days?
Anyone know?
I read this as "could Nelly have worked back-to-back days"
Thanks, McCarver!
*Kelley
Sorry, it annoys the crap out of me.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I never had faith in Colome or White
It’s League who I’m losing faith in.
He didn't pitch that badly
Couple ground balls, a line drive and a bunt
by Cantu Easley Winn on May 15, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
He gave up one single on a pitch in the dirt
Jesus Christ people
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by Griffin Cooper on May 15, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
League seems like he's the unluckiest pitcher on the staff.
It feels like a ton of groundballs have been finding holes or hitters have found absurd ways to get on base against him.
Fister begs to differ.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Fister is like the luckiest pitcher on the staff
by Cantu Easley Winn on May 15, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Wins, yes.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on May 15, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
This is a hard title to win
given that every Mariners pitcher gets the Mariner offense backing them up.
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm wondering
if League will always be a bit of a sore spot with many fans, simply because he was the guy dealt for Morrow. He’d have to perform at an incredible level to make people feel “okay” about the Morrow pick.
#52
The number of fans who care about that is pretty minimal.
Despite the “HA HA HA SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED LINCECUM” contingent.
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure, the general poster on LL is pretty informed.
But if you polled the average fan at Safeco, I feel like it’d skew much differently.
#52
No
Most fans wouldn’t care as long as League gets good results. Being pissed at him is likely because he’s gotten bad results.
Also, it’s not like Morrow’s setting the world on fire as a Blue Jay.
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Setting the world on fire...
…but not in a good way.
I thought the "bringing a gas can" cliche was reserved for relievers.
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
The reliever gascan analogy is more about turning a small fire into a raging inferno.
Morrow is more like a Boy Scout – he can start a fire from absolutely nothing.
I'm a big Morrow fan. And I do not now, nor have I ever, liked the trade.
With that said, League is a fucking awesome relief pitcher. Morrow is gone. I have accepted that. Now I want League to produce to his amazing talent level.
Morrow made me happy. League makes me happy in other ways. He is not a sore spot. He is awesome on this team.
Actually, this is pretty well reasoned.
He’s unabashedly making poor decisions.
Yes but talking of firing him is blindingly stupid.
All he needs is a stern couple orders from higher up and all this shit is fixed. He’s still the same fucking guy he was last year. I’m getting sick of all this reactionary bullshit from the newer posters.
If you have to tell your field manager how to use his bullpen because he can't tell which pitchers suck
I’d argue you probably need a different field manager. His job is to understand which players are suited to which roles and use them appropriately in game.
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
That being said, not wanting to fire Wak yet.
My assessment of him, though, is well into the Hargrove/Riggleman range of “meh” compared to last year- has some good points, but does enough obviously second-guessable stuff that I don’t think he’s the kind of manager that IMPROVES his team. Basically, he ends up being a non-factor.
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Without looking at advanced stats closely, it's really, really hard to tell that Sean White is a much worse pitcher than his results over the past year+
It’s the job of the front office’s statistics team to figure this out and for Jack Z to encourage Wak to chance the usage pattern.
Besides, the options in the bullpen without Lowe were Kelley, who has looked good but is still prone to the home run, and Aardsma, who would have probably been the best choice. However, it’s unrealistic to expect a manager today to use his closer in that situation without alot of prodding/encouragement from the front office. That’s why I believe the failure of responsibility rests with the front office as much as Wak for his poor managing decisions – he needs explanations, support, and encouragement from the front office so he can explain how these unconventional decisions help the team win to his players and to the fans (the front office needs to explain it to the media, fans, and players too). The front office isn’t being as bold, hands-on, and forward-thinking as it needs to be.
People are mad at him because he's doing a bad job at his job in the face of evidence. That's his fault.
It isn’t unreasonable at all for people to be sick of it and want something better.
Sure, same guy as last year
And his lineup and bullpen management sucked then too. Unexpectedly good performances and low expectations masked his deficiencies.
Oh, and in good news:
We should be seeing lots of Mike Sweeney, leading HR hitter for your Seattle Mariners.
Well, at least he’s HIT a home run since 2009.
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 4:01 PM PDT reply actions
Guti begs to differ.
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 15, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoops.
Second leading HR hitter.
Anyways, 3 jacks in 3 days… well, I think Sweeney’s got his lineup spot for a while now.
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
So you're saying better a broken arm than cancer?
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely
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by Griffin Cooper on May 15, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Just wait until gangrene sets in on that broken arm.
by eponymous_coward on May 15, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If the broken arm is hitting a homer a week...
Not so egregious. It’s a shame Sweeney is the hugger/tickler that can hit, because it means he sticks around for way longer than we’d like,
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