Series Preview: Seattle Mariners @ Tampa Bay Rays
Seattle: 13-21
Tampa Bay: 24-10
| MARINERS | Δ Ms | RAYS | EDGE | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| HITTING (wOBA) |
-32.6 (29th) | 1.7 | 8.8 (10th) | Tampa Bay |
| FIELDING (?) | 18.3 (3rd) | 1.0 | 19.5 (2nd) | Tampa Bay |
| ROTATION (tRA) |
-4.1 (21st) | 1.5 | 15.0 (4th) | Tampa Bay |
| BULLPEN (tRA) |
-5.2 (25th) | -0.3 | 4.3 (9th) | Tampa Bay |
| OVERALL(RAA) |
-23.6 (24th) | 3.9 | 47.6 (5th) | TAMPA BAY |
And I saw Sisyphus at his endless task
raising his prodigious stone with both his hands.
With hands and feet he tried to roll it up to the top of the hill,
but always,
just before he could roll it over on to the other side, its weight would be
too much
for him, and the pitiless stone would come thundering down
again
on to the plain. Then he would begin trying to push it up hill
again
Sigh. What a mismatch this series shapes up to be. The Mariners survived their initial tests in getting through the first 22 games without Cliff Lee, but have struggled --to put it mildly-- once the real test began in May. There aren't any more soft landings, they've used them all up. They need to start winning now and to do so will require beating some teams that are more talented then they are. It's not impossible, but we sure could use a check in the form of some good luck from the regression fairy.
Tampa tosses three more righties against us this series. How much Griffey plays might well give us a clue as to how the team is going to approach the roster moves when Milton Bradley returns. Or it might not. In case you haven't noticed, we don't know. I'm not entirely confident the actual front office knows but even if they do, they're not sharing that info with us. You can ask what we would do and we'll be happy to refer you to the countless times that we've gone over what roster moves we'd like to see made. You can ask us to speculate on why a certain move was or was not made. Just don't ask us what will happen. We don't know.
Fri May 14, 16:10: Doug Fister vs. Wade Davis
Sat May 15, 13:10: Jason Vargas* vs. James Shields
Sun May 16, 10:40: Cliff Lee* vs. Matt Garza
At least by tRA these three represent our best possible series rotation. Thanks to his jaw-droppingly bad pair of starts before yesterday, Felix finds himself with the team's fourth-best tRA from the rotation. Life is weird.
By the way, Doug Fister missed nary a single bat in his last start and got just two swings and misses in the one previous to that. Over those 206 pitches and 15 innings, he has five strikeouts (all looking) and one walk allowed. In his last 38 innings pitched, Fister has walked three batters. He has a 2.2% walk rate over that span. 2010 Doug Fister is Carlos Silva circa 2006 at 10% of 2006 Carlos Silva's cost which is a Grand Canyon filled with Kettle Chips sight better than 2006 Carlos Silva at 2008 Carlos Silva's cost and a lunar rocket to the perpetual orgasm planet better than what we actually got from Silva.
Doug Fister's BABIP is at .226. Jason Vargas' BABIP is at .223. Ohhhhhhhh no.
I will not cheapen our celebration of Felix Day by calling it Cliff Lee Day. I am slightly partial to the Cliffmas moniker, but that is neither here nor there at the moment. Every Cliff Lee start should be treasured from here on out. We have to face the reality that he's not likely to be a Mariner come 2011 and now start preparing that he may not even be a Mariner come August. I know he doesn't quite have the long standing emotional ties with many of you, but for me he represents not just himself. He is a symbol of all the hope that I had for 2010. I don't want that to leave, not this soon.
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Wow.. Yeah. It's the Astros
And it really isn’t all that close. .260 for HOU, .293 for us. (Fan Graphs)
by seattlesundevil on May 14, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
How can we move this team to the NL?
Having our pitchers hit, amazingly, would be a better option at this point as well.
by AgainstKyle on May 14, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Our DHs v. Astros' pitchers
Astros pitchers are hitting .207 with 1 double and 0 HR. Our DHs (not just limited to Griffey and Sweeney) are hitting .186 with 3 doubles and 1 HR in more than twice as many ABs.
Was this what MLB envisioned back in 1973?
by AltCtrlDelete on May 14, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Why yes it was
As the MLB representatives were pondering the future glory of the sport, they thought, “How can we keep barnd name players, past their prime, around in the game when they can longer take the field?”
and thus the DH was born.
by lokiforever on May 14, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah yes, BUT
the thinking was “they can no longer take the field, but they can still hit”…
Ugh. Yeah...
Via Shannon Drayer’s twitter:
M"s lineup Ichiro Figgins Guti Sweeney Lopez Kotchman Jo Wilson Moore Saunders
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on May 14, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Somethin's going on!
Per Baker:
Mariners GM Jack Zduriencik arrived about an hour ago. He had planned to join the team at some point on this trip, but had not been sure. He made a beeline for Ken Griffey Jr.‘s locker upon entering the visitors’ clubhouse and the two had a long chat. So, it might be safe to assume Zduriencik’s appearance here, rather than in Oakland, may have been prompted largely by events of the past week.
Got my sig stolen
Wak doing his best to get Saunders as few at bats as possible
by Cantu Easley Winn on May 14, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I think this is more of the "don't put too much pressure or change his routine" type of mentality
After last year and the first part of this year in AAA, I don’t blame him – let the dude’s confidence grow. If he is having success in the 9 hole, keep him there for awhile.
by seattlesundevil on May 14, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
At this point, I think you might have to risk comfort for optimal run scoring opportunities.
Staying the course just isn’t cutting it.
I agree - and I can see both sides of it.
I just think that there is a downside to moving him out of the spot where he is building confidence. Don’t get me wrong, I know there is the obvious upside of moving him up and having a hot bat in the middle of the lineup, as well.
He was nearly broken (confidence wise) last year – or at least it seemed like it – I am hesitant to push him up and have it happen again until he builds it up a bit more, which might not take that long if he continues at this pace!
by seattlesundevil on May 14, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
He hit a dinger yesterday!
That must mean he’s good again!
MIKE BRUMLEY IS THE WORST PERSON EVER
by I Lick Squirrels on May 14, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey Downers!
I’m personally just as optimistic now as I was before the season (well at least, before the season but after Lee got hurt). Guti is doing what he’s doing, Saunders is coming around, Langerhans is doing well, Lopez is showing good defense while he’s still around (I mean, how high were your expectations for his offense anyway?), Most of our top prospects are doing just fine. Most of our worst aspects are very fixable – Sweeney and Griffey, our DHPHs (Place Holders), will ride off into the sunset sooner or later, hopefully followed by Lopez. Figgins will turn things on, no doubt. It’s all good, bros.
shrug
Maybe it's not so smart to call people names when you haven't been posting long
if that’s just your sense of humor, I apologize, but still, maybe avoid the name-calling in future?
And more to your point, the fixability is what has a lot of people distressed – it may be fixable, but it isn’t being fixed.
Bingo (to your third sentence).
Fixable is great if you actually do something about it.
And come Monday, it may be too late fix it anyway.
We’re 20 percent of the way through the season already, and we’re about to face one of the best teams in baseball three times. We need to not suck this weekend.
...Did I just hear a call for more cowbell?
[insert photoshopped image of Will Ferrell banging cowbell here – but replace Will with Saunders]
Hmm
Grand Canyon filled with Kettle Chips
Is this a Carlos SIlva fat joke?
by Cantu Easley Winn on May 14, 2010 1:39 PM PDT reply actions
It was just delicious is all
A king county dream.
by Jon S. on May 14, 2010 5:08 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Odd, GMZ wasnt supposed to be in Tampa.
He just showed up in the clubhouse
by Brian Floyd on May 14, 2010 2:03 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I love how we're all hoping this means something major.
I can’t see Griffey retiring on the road, so that shouldn’t be it.
Could just be a light a fire meeting.
Or a subtle reminder he’s looking over their shoulders
by Brian Floyd on May 14, 2010 2:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Progress???
Wak on DH we are going with the best match ups that give us the best chance to win. Catchers-must handle the pitchers and catch the baseball. -Drayer’s Twitter
Wait…catchers must catch the baseball?
Rob Johnson is so bad he can shake even the sturdiest of belief systems.
by Eyeball Kid on May 14, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rob Johnson is so bad...
how bad is he? Rob Johnson is so bad…he’s the starting catcher for the Seattle Mariners! Ahhhahahaha! Oh…wait…
by Charles Gipson on May 14, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems logical, no?
HOW IS THIS JUST NOW COMING TO THE FOREFRONT!?
by seattlesundevil on May 14, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Because we've been waiting for the weather to warm up...
Once its hotter out I’m sure Griffey will start producing, Johnson will start catching, Lopez’ balls will start carrying further (i.e. over the fence), Chone will put better swings on the ball, Bradley will see all the flowers in bloom and mellow out, and Jack’s legs will hold up better. Did I miss anyone? :-P #sotiredoftheexcuses
What's Seattle's team payroll right now?
That’s the thing the Mariners have that a ton of other teams don’t; They’ve got the money to give him $16-18MM/year, but it’s all for naught if he’s fed up with a half-run of support per game.
Whether Lee will be a Mariner in August depends on what Z wants for him
Well, I mean, obviously, but the choice is a smattering of vetted minor leaguers from somebody’s farm system, or two draft picks (right?) from the Yankees. Given that draft picks give you full control over whom you get, or at least to whom you have the rights, he might go that route, and not depend on who the other team wants to give.

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