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Hit it, Larry LaRue. This is the most obvious link and blockquote in the history of the Mariner blogosphere.

The Griffey that a year ago helped build camaraderie in the Seattle clubhouse has taken a leave of absence this season. There have been times during games when he’s retired to the clubhouse, texted friends, watched the TV broadcast.
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So why didn’t Wakamatsu go to Junior off the bench.

"He was asleep in the clubhouse," one player said. "He’d gone back about the fifth inning to get a jacket and didn’t come back. I went back in about the seventh inning – and he was in his chair, sound asleep."

I'm not going to use this as another reason to get mad at Junior. That wouldn't be fair. What I will say, though, is that maybe people should lighten up on Milton Bradley a little bit. Players leave the dugout all the time. Pitchers shower and hang out in the clubhouse. Griffey falls asleep. If Bradley "quit on his team," then so did Seattle's greatest sports icon, because while Bradley may have left the stadium, it's not like Griffey was offering much support from his barcalounger.

Interestingly, LaRue hints that the time may be nigh for the organization to find a solution to the Griffey dilemma. I didn't realize we had options.

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Really hope this turns into the first step for the retirement announcement.

To be able to open up that roster spot (maybe 2 if Sweeney goes away too) would go a long ways in enabling some flexibility and maybe adding a good bit of offense (if the right piece can be traded for)

by seattlesundevil on May 10, 2010 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Ina bold, dramatic managerial move, designed to show how seriously this sort of thing is taken,

Wakamatsu has replaced Griffey’s recliner with one of those #3.99 plastic outdoor chairs from Home Depot. When asked about it, he said “I’d like to see ANYBODY fall asleep in one of those things!”

by pdb on May 10, 2010 11:06 AM PDT reply actions   9 recs

This just made my coworker,

who isn’t even an M’s fan, do a full-on spit-take. Well-played, sir.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on May 10, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

Seriously?

Seriously?

I mean….. Seriously?

by Henry Valz on May 10, 2010 11:12 AM PDT reply actions  

With what?

Insomnia?…

It’s not…. fatal familial insomnia, is it?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on May 10, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thats the worst.

Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.

by the other side on May 10, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would be interesting...

Hey Alonzo! Thanks for coming up and acting as hitting coach… But, well..

..

Here is your bus ticket back to Tacoma.

by seattlesundevil on May 10, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

For Alonzo Powell?

Probably, but he went 16/56 in his big league career. I don’t mean to be harsh or anything, but…there are people with established pedigrees floating around who can, in theory, actually hit. And have proven it over long big league careers.

A self-aware man should know that his qualifications don’t really merit certain positions.

by harkening on May 10, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

I mean he was probably happy in Tacoma and now he has to be in Seattle for some unspecified amount of time.

Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.

by the other side on May 10, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know how well Paul Molitor took off, though.

I’m tempted to ask Dan Wilson what his thoughts are on being a hitting coach or a manager. He probably has other things to do, but he strikes me as the kind of smart you need to be.

Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club

by Two Rs and Two Ls on May 10, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wilson would send Rob up to Vancouver to take lessons from Luongo or something.

more hockey goalies need to become catchers. All we gotta do is find one who can hit.

Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club

by Two Rs and Two Ls on May 10, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe in the US...

But in Japan he was batting champion 3 straight years. Which i don’t consider to be ANYTHING to be sneezed at. Maybe he didn’t play much here, but I still think he is qualified.

That being said, Employing Griffey as a Hitting coach/pinch hitter that we can trot out at the end of meaningless games for fans adulation is a great idea, and I hope that management thinks the same thing

by ambrosia2112 on May 10, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

For as little as hitting coaches probably really help,

Griffey would probably be a horrible one. What’s he going to teach?
“Don’t worry about work ethic, just rely on the unbelievable talent you were given until you’re thirty or so, give up,
and milk that reputation for another ten years.”

by BigR on May 10, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Amazingly talented players, typically make shitty coaches,

because mortals can’t do things the way they did them.

I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.

by Rich Langford on May 10, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ooohhhhh

This makes me sad and happy and depressed and optimistic and just generally conflicted and split in two.

by TheBishop on May 10, 2010 11:14 AM PDT reply actions  

So, I'm guessing maybe the Kangaroo Court hasn't been in session a whole lot.

and, boy, he must really be missing the sugar from all that sodypop.

by msb on May 10, 2010 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Glutamate

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on May 10, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dave just threw up a post about the same thing

and he seems to think one of our DHs is gone within the next couple days. Also, he took away from that article that Jr was the one possibly leaving. So yea, traffic die down so I can read it myself!

Now with more lemon bars!

by Fear on May 10, 2010 11:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Ha!

Honestly, I really wish he was still decent enough to contribute.
Because really, it’s pretty awesome having a fat old guy on the team
that makes himself unavailable to pinch hit due to nap time.

Unfortunately, he doesn’t contribute. It’s time for either hitting coach Junior or 60 day DL Junior.

by BigR on May 10, 2010 11:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Here's a solution

A big F U to Griffey for quitting on his teammates and directions to the nearest dugout.

We all know he sucks. No we know he doesn’t give a shit.

by tait644 on May 10, 2010 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Griffey has always been primarily about Griffey

it’s just that Griffey 2.0 is wrapped in a much more consumer-friendly package than Griffey 1.0 was. Seriously, if you’ve followed Griffey’s entire career this isn’t that far out of character for him.

by pdb on May 10, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree with this.

I found Mr. 644’s implication that he’s “quit” on his teammates to be a little strong.

by TheBishop on May 10, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

he was just trying to relax a little

Wak’s been saying all along that the hitters are pushing too hard. Griffdawg was just trying to find his zone.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on May 10, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Can't expect players to stay alert for 162 games a year

Griffey falling asleep in the clubhouse looks bad, but it isn’t really much worse than horsing around in the dugout or checking out ladies. All that stuff about always being on the top step, cheering your team on – that’s college shit.

by Jeff Sullivan on May 10, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bahahahaha

Awesome.

Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.

by the other side on May 10, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

It looks bad to bloggers and fans who have no idea what it's like to grind out a pro season.

Yes, it was on a homestand so jet lag had nothing to do with it, but a true pro knows you’ve got to bank some sleep by taking cat naps BEFORE road trips.

In the days before blogs and deadspin, great players used to grab a few minutes of shut-eye ON THE FIELD. They’d wake up if a ball was hit towards them, or when their teammates shouted (this is how the tradition of calling for fly balls originated). What’d we do with those players? Did we kick them off the team, or hound them out of town? We put them in the hall of fucking fame, people.

by marc w on May 10, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   8 recs

I agree with you

but seems like a 0-8 run is a time when every player ought to care a little more.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on May 10, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dave posted recently about Wakamatsu's much discussed 'belief system'

and how player-friendly it is. I suppose all that trust and support comes with a certain downside – the expectation that a struggling player tries a little harder what is minimally acceptable.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on May 10, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know.

I’m sure that I’m scrambling to rationalize that behavior of my childhood idol. But from the article it didn’t seem that the players were up in arms about it. They would know better than I what’s acceptable in the clubhouse.

by TheBishop on May 10, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also Griffey wasn't the only left handed bat on the bench better than Sweeney

I’m still wondering why Wak didn’t pinch hit Saunders in that situation.

by wetzelcoal on May 10, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he does give a shit

But this is Griffey we’re talking about and this article doesn’t really surprise me all that much, honestly. Griffey cares. If he didn’t care, he wouldn’t have signed.

by E-Lizz on May 10, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah this isn't that different from him running

autographed photos up to the booth during games last year. It’s just that we’re not winning right now and no one’s happy so fans are out for blood.

by TheBishop on May 10, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Griffey is clearly done.

But I’m still going to be sad to see him go

by wetzelcoal on May 10, 2010 11:27 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

As a kid, Griffey was the most exciting player I'd ever seen.

I still have an autographed picture of his from spring training in 1989.
This whole season tarnishes his legacy though; to me, the less I see of him now, the better. I don’t want him doing any more damage to this team.

I desperately want him gone now, because then I’ll finally be able to cheer for him one last time.

by marc w on May 10, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's the saddest part to me.

He has the perfect chance to go out on a high note last year and like so many aging superstars just couldn’t let go.

by TheBishop on May 10, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that's what we were all hoping for, yeah.

And while I’m sure that this isn’t an unprecedented occurrence, it’s just not acceptable within the context of his lack of performance. It makes him LOOK lazy and uncaring, whether that’s the reality or not.

Go home, Junior. You can nap all you want.

by Jeff Nye on May 10, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, this bothers me

I don’t want Griffey DHing, but I feel uncomfortable thinking that he will be released. I wish he could have gone out gracefully, but he didn’t, and now things could get really… awkward. I don’t know if that’s the right word.

by E-Lizz on May 10, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Junior, for the love all all that's good, PLEASE retire now

What a totally embarrasing end to a hall of fame career. I can’t think of any sure HOFer (well, non-pitcher) who’s ever gone out with such a whimper. He must be regretting having come back for this last year.

by AltCtrlDelete on May 10, 2010 11:51 AM PDT reply actions  

There have been many

Willie Mays comes to mind.

At 41 he hit .184 w/ 0 HRs in 19 games, then was traded to the Mets…where he did slightly better.

At 42 he hit .211/.303/.344 with 6 HRs.

Thus far, Griffey has been worse this year, but last year he was better than Willie’s final line.

That said, Griffey is probably the biggest and most untainted superstar of our generation, so I think he gets more leeway than any other “star” from the steroid era. You wouldn’t see Sosa or Ortiz getting this kind of leash, and that’s for a valid (though maybe not very good) reason IMO.

by HititHere on May 10, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh God that game was like watching a video of a crash.

You know it’s a disaster, you’re not quite sure at what point in the video it will happen, and people are going to fucking die.

Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.

by the other side on May 10, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

So, when would the PH have come?

in the 4th, with the bases loaded, or in the later innings when noone was on base and he was the last out? Game impact seems minimal. But that only reaffirms my belief that the napping is a small part of the move.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on May 10, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, no, he's not nearing the end because he fell asleep

In fact, I’m guessing this isn’t the first time this has happened.

by Jeff Sullivan on May 10, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite part is where it says Rob Johnson specifically.

Like he is the only one not hitting. Apparently every IS Rob Johnson’s fault.

Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.

by the other side on May 10, 2010 11:51 AM PDT reply actions  

.
I’m not going to use this as another reason to get mad at Junior.

Cool. I will. Fuck you, Griffey.

by Eyeball Kid on May 10, 2010 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Griffey- Mays

I’m too young to remember but I wonder if this was the same discussion in 1973 when Willie Mays was a shell of is former self on the Mets World Series team.

by ptpine on May 10, 2010 11:55 AM PDT reply actions  

It's not really that clearcut

Because Mays started 1972 out HORRENDOUSLY… and the 1973 numbers are too similar:

Mays: .211/.303..344 6 HRs over 88 games
Jr: .208/.265/.234 0 HRs over 23 games

Ok, Junior is worse this year… but hey, ground balls to the right side that make it through the hole are still hits, right? Right?

If Griffey played 88 games, maybe he’d end up getting an HR or two to even things out.

by HititHere on May 10, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please nobody mention the wOBA

Because Mays in 1973 was .302 and Jr 2010 is at .233, and that’s a pretty big diff.

by HititHere on May 10, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mays had 10 doubles and 1 SB over 239 appearances

I guess that’s better than 2 doubles and 0 SBs over 83.

Junior hasn’t stolen a base since 2007, when he stole 6. You gotta go back to his last year as an M, 1999, to find a year where he stole double-digit bases.

by HititHere on May 10, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Griffey - Mays

                                 BA OBP SLG OPS
1973 Mays .211 .303 .344 .647
2010 Griffey .208 .265 .234 .499

Unlike Griffey, Mays did play the field. He was so bad that that point may favor Junior.

by ptpine on May 10, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be more than happy if we released him

But I just hope for the sake of goodwill towards the FO he retires.

by Stormton on May 10, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

I may be comparing apples and oranges

But it stands out to me as more than a little interesting that the reaction to Griffey falling asleep in the clubhouse during a game is so drastically different than the reaction to Yuni missing early BP because he was asleep on the team plane during the announcement.

Rooting for lovable losers since 1984.

by seattlecougar on May 10, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

In other news...

“ModernTube: Keith Hernandez falls asleep during Mets game” is a current headline linked on the righthand menu.

Rooting for lovable losers since 1984.

by seattlecougar on May 10, 2010 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

I really hope he just becomes a bench coach or retires

It would make me sad to have him be released

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on May 10, 2010 12:01 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm sure Powell hasn't moved yet.

Griffey, you can retain your dignity by relinquishing your 25-man roster spot and becoming the hitting coach.

by BrianL on May 10, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be awesome.

It would make this whole thing less awkward.

by E-Lizz on May 10, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

He will go home to his family

he will not coach until his kids are off to college, I guess.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on May 10, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he'll retire.

The chances of him staying with the organization right now are basically nil.

by Jeff Nye on May 10, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn it Griffey why didn't you call it a career after last season you old geezer :(

This will not end well. Signing him on for another season was a disaster waiting to happen.

"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."

by Fearless Frog on May 10, 2010 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

How embarrassing.

Or is it even embarrassing at this point? I don’t know anymore.

Sigh.

Milton Bradley apologist

by sanford_and_son on May 10, 2010 12:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Great news!

I can’t wait for people to somehow blame this on Milton Bradley.

Sarcasm…I hope.

Carlos Silvelite

by OceanBird on May 10, 2010 12:35 PM PDT reply actions  

As an old school Mariners fan this makes me sad

The sleeping in the clubhouse is bad, but if his legs are as shot as LaRue says, and as they appear to be from his play, Griffey needs to retire. The team can hold a ceremony, retire #24, and bring in someone who can contribute more than happy memories..

by njpozner on May 10, 2010 12:38 PM PDT reply actions  

This is how I feel as well.

I don’t share the joy and mirth of those who are glad to see his downfall, or whatever this is.

I was 9 when Griffey joined the team. He is one of my childhood heroes. I was 15 when he when from first to home on the double. Watching him play last year was incredible and magical. I was there for what should have been his last game last year. They had so much fun, and in a way, I think Griffey thought that this could last forever, or at least one more year.

This feels like someone is stomping on my nuts. Seriously. I want to cry.

by Henry Valz on May 10, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.

Yeah, you knew it was coming. But no one thought it would be this bad.

by Henry Valz on May 10, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was delusionally hoping the team would do what it said it was going to do.

And have Griffey in a limited role. Basically just along for the ride. Then they made him the starting DH and I knew this would end poorly.

by Hopefulmsfan on May 10, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

As a spot start at DH/occasional pinch-hitter, I didn’t have an issue with him being the 25th man on the roster.

But then we brought Sweeney back as well.

And we then proceeded to make Griffey the starting DH against righties…what we have seen has been predictable since…

by Omerta on May 10, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel the same as Henry

We all knew the season was likely going to end badly, but no one predicted a PR debacle where Gramps fell asleep in a La-Z-Boy backstage while the team was mired in an 8 game losing streak.

If there was 1 thing The Kid could still do, it was…well…stay awake and joke with his teammates through a horrendous losing streak.

Seriously. If anyone predicted a Napgate scandal going into this season, I’d love to see it.

by HititHere on May 10, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Subject line please...

I would argue that just about EVERYONE thought / knew it would be this bad..

by seattlesundevil on May 10, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a bit older, but in the same basic age range.

Aren’t you desperate for him to leave and end this catastrofuck? If you saw Griffey in 1990-1995, then you know how agonizing it is to watch him now.

I’d like him gone, and I’d like to never mention that he was on the team in 2010 again.

by marc w on May 10, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

This is just ruining his legacy. Like Jordan’s third stint in the NBA.

by zeeehjee on May 10, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by Jeff Sullivan on May 10, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   7 recs

As someone who is also late 20's ish

Yes. I’m ready. I wanted to see one more home run in a Mariner uniform in 2009. I got it. Let’s win some games.

by TheBishop on May 10, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just hope this doesn't have a negative effect on Ichiro

Its been in the back of my mind ever since the season started. Ichiro seems like Junior’s little brother.

Carlos Silvelite

by OceanBird on May 10, 2010 12:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Ichiro will be fine.

Its nice when Ichiro is happy but he’s been excellent on some bad teams with sad clubhouses and he’ll continue to be excellent until his body breaks down.

by TrashiDawa on May 10, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats the part I've been worried about

I knew Griffey would slow down, but I understand what his presence did for Ichiro last year. Ichiro will continue to put up great numbers… but if all of us feel this bad watching our childhood hero deteriorate before our eyes, imagine how Ichiro feels.

by E-Lizz on May 10, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, especially

that one year when he got less than 200 hits oh wait that didn’t ever happen

by pdb on May 10, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

If nobody else is going to do it

I will begin the speculation on who the two players were. We know they must have been around while this game happened (May 2 2010).

Hint 1: “Two Mariners players, however, weren’t. Both are younger players, fond of Griffey. Neither had an ax to grind.”
They must be “young” players. We don’t know if this refers to their age or number of years in the majors. For our purposes we can throw out any thought of players above 28 years old.

Hint 2: "He was asleep in the clubhouse," one player said. "He’d gone back about the fifth inning to get a jacket and didn’t come back. I went back in about the seventh inning – and he was in his chair, sound asleep."
Player A (just to keep a distinction between the two sources) entered the clubhouse in the 7th inning. Fister pitched 8 innings so we can rule out any members of the bullpen from entering the clubhouse at this time. Therefore it must be a SP or position player.

Hint 3: “The other player, who knows Griffey a little better, tried to ratonalize.”
This tells us that player B knows Griffey better than player A. One could assume that player A was not on the team last year and player B was. Player B could be any of the position players or pitchers but likely was with the club last year.

Player A: younger than 28 yrs old, not part of the bullpen, likely did not play on the team much last year
Suspects: Casey Kotchman, Adam Moore, Matt Tuiasosopo, Doug Fister

Player B: younger than 28 yrs old, played on the team last year
Suspects: Rob Johnson, Jose Lopez, Franklin Gutierrez, Felix Hernandez, Ryan Rowland-Smith, Jason Vargas

There are definitely flaws in the assumptions but it whittles the list of players down.

by Edgar for Pres on May 10, 2010 12:47 PM PDT reply actions  

RALLY NAPS!

people can come to the game with their signs quilted on a blanket. When the Ms offense is sputtering, they can nod off to try and boost the team’s fortunes.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on May 10, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

By the way, ESPN has picked up the story.

No way this one isn’t going to get national attention now. Still no sign of it on the Seattle Times page, though. Get with it, Baker ;)

by Rachmaninoff on May 10, 2010 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Holy shit, the perfect opportunity...

Griffey -→ DFR (retirement)
Saunders -→ fulltime LF
Bradley -→ fulltime DH
Langerhans -→ Backup OF who can spell Frank and Mike once in a while. And Ichiro twice this season.

Please please please please please…

by lailaihei on May 10, 2010 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't think so, Langerhans is an incredible 4th OF.

If we need a RH bat, it’s going to be at the expense of Sweeney. Sweeney’s only job is RH bat, he sucks at it, and if Griffey gets cut it’s hard to imagine them keeping a soft spot for Sweeney.

by lailaihei on May 10, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's add

Sweeney — retirement
Hannahan — new good Bloomquist role

by mark sobba on May 10, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm listening to Brock and Salk right now, it is just comical.

‘We can’t release him! That is no way you treat a legend! We can just keep him as a utility player!’
Buh.

by melenious on May 10, 2010 1:17 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Salk called the caller out on this.

“How can Griffey be a utility player if he can’t play a position?”

by TrashiDawa on May 10, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jack of all trades, master of napping in the clubhouse.

"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."

by Fearless Frog on May 10, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

A utility player...

who can’t play any position in the field… which is the definition of a utility player.

by zeeehjee on May 10, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he meant utility worker.

Griffey, after all, does have experience sleeping on the job.

by ThomasG on May 10, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

All this talk about naps....

Is making me tired. Have a great afternoon everyone. See you in a couple hours!

by zeeehjee on May 10, 2010 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Then the sleeping Griffey, la-z-boy chair and all, was carried out of the stadium on the shoulders of his teammates.

Slowly moving pass those close enough could hear the mournful voices of Griffey’s teammates “Jesus Christ, didn’t we do this a few months ago?” “At least we didn’t have to carry this fucking chair then!” “Esta zorra es la grasa.”

With tears in their eyes, the crowd stood, raised their hands in the air and sang one last time: HEY HO! HEY HO!

by mark sobba on May 10, 2010 1:36 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

If I were a cynic, I'd wonder if these reports were a pre-emptive PR bomb from the org to help justify Griffey's impending release.

Because, after all, this is the kind of thing that could compel average fans to accept a Griffey release in a way that arguments about opportunity cost and roster construction would not. This is exactly the kind of cover the organization needs to make the right move.

That would be a shrewd bit of realpolitik, but I’m not yet quite that cynical. I don’t think this was planned, partially because it would make it harder for Griffey to retire gracefully, but the organization probably has a window now in which they could sever ties in a respectful way.

by Chris Hafner on May 10, 2010 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

She's trying to defend him and saying that he could be woken up if need be,

but wasn’t he needed in that situation? It seems like this shows the trust level in him as a PH or maybe I’m reading too much into it.

by seattle_since_81 on May 10, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay okay we get it he likes to nap and its not a problem

can we still get him off the roster? I mean, I don’t really care if he was unavailable to hit because he was stepping on kittens or ministering to SoDo methheads. I just want the retirement party.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on May 10, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I love the first comment on that.
Thanks!!!!!!!
Thanks, Shannon. This helps give perspective to LaRue’s blog. Amazing how quickly “normal” stuff can be misconstued. If The Kid was doing this even back when Piniella was here…give him a break, wake him up if needed and don’t insinuate that this is indicative of the Mariners’ struggles or Griffey’s motivation. May they score another 8 runs in Baltimore!!!

"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."

by Fearless Frog on May 10, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am not surprised. I fall asleep all the time watching the Mariners offense....

I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.

by Rich Langford on May 10, 2010 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh yeah, I hadn't realized this.

I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.

by Rich Langford on May 10, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

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