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Around SBN: Win or Lose, Boston Celtics' New Big 3 Era A Success

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Biggest Contribution: Casey Kotchman, +42.0%
Biggest Suckfest: Sean White, -36.3%
Most Important AB: Kotchman single, +39.3%
Most Important Pitch: Davis single, -22.4%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +34.7%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -13.0%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +28.3%
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I wouldn't say that if you come down here to Oakland

When I go to a game in the Coliseum I do no shit talking during the game and very little bragging outside the stadium because I enjoy living.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 5, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love living in San Diego.

“Hey, a Mariners fan! High five!”

by Teej on Apr 5, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Barely.

One of my favorite books fell over.

by Teej on Apr 5, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you were Graham,

I would make a joke about it being a structural engineering book. Instead, uhh, yeah I bet that MLA handbook fell down! Just like they do on the serial comma! Oooh burn!

by Matthew on Apr 5, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Graham's a Structural Engineer?

My new favorite mod. Wait, does he still have those powers?

by LonelyintheBleachers on Apr 6, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah the one time I went to an M's game at the Coliseum

It ended with four guys knocking my Free Adam Jones sign out of my hand, kicking it and saying ‘fuck you, nigga!’
I am extremely white.
Oakland is fun.

by Nick S on Apr 5, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to say Oakland is a good city and I like it

That said, you might die so this needs to be considered whenever around. At least you survived.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 6, 2010 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oakland's so cute

just wanting to kill and hate and fight and murder everything all the time. However, without Oakland the world would have been deprived of those two little cherubs, Bubb Rubb and Lil Sis. Iz dat WOO! WOO!

by cmccrack206 on Apr 6, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Peuh.

I am an A’s fan, and I lived in Oakland for 15 years. A’s fans are mellow and would not assault you for talking shit.

Raiders fans, on the other hand….

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Apr 6, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

amen.

I went to a Raiders game one time and saw seven fistfights in the stands. No exaggeration.

A’s games are laid back and mellow. The third deck used to be a little rough, but they tarped it off.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Apr 6, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah inside the stadium at A's games isn't really that crazy (Raiders fans are insane)

Just in general, around the stadium I could see Graham getting his ass kicked for saying something like that.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 6, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great to see Casey Kotchman contributing so much to the team.

The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com

by 44FAN on Apr 5, 2010 10:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Panther.

The 2009 Pregame Picks Winner and Iron Man of Halos Heaven.com

by 44FAN on Apr 5, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

Ugh.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Apr 5, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correct

It’s not like I make these numbers up. If they say something, there’s a reason.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 5, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Glad to see Rob Johnson doing good.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Apr 5, 2010 10:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Understandable.

Maybe I’m just high on life right now, but I have to admit that his approach at the plate looks not terrible. My tune will probably change in a week, but right now, I’m actually kind of OK with him being employed.

The joys of Opening Day!

by Teej on Apr 5, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to give him a fresh look.

Anybody who underwent two hip surgeries, one wrist surgery and eye surgery deserves a second chance. If he was hurt last year I’ll give him a pass on last year. Show us what you’ve got when healthy, Rob.

by TrustBaseball on Apr 5, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Glad Dave spend his first paragraph outlining how stupid it was

to bring Sean White in the baseball game in the seventh. Still can’t wrap my mind around that one.

Just glad we got that win. With Lee down for a few more weeks, we can’t afford to lose these game that Felix pitches.

by Rudy4three on Apr 5, 2010 10:23 PM PDT reply actions  

FUCK YEAH!

I LOVE BASEBALL!

"Why did he run when I was going to throw him out?"
- Ichiro Suzuki

by Slow Country on Apr 5, 2010 10:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I cannot remember a game with more seperate instances of bad umping.

Also, I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought Ben Sheets looked like Will Ferrell.

by SethGrandpa on Apr 5, 2010 10:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I still can't beleive that double play call in the first inning.

Ump 1: “I didn’t see it. Did you see it?”
Ump 2: “Uh, no. I didn’t see it.”

awkward pause

Ump 2: “Did you see it?”
Ump 1: “God dammit.”

by supershane on Apr 5, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

What can't you believe?

Runner ran out of the baseline. You can argue about the hitter making it to first, I suppose.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 5, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure made sense

Runner’s out of the base path, thrown ball hits runner, runner is out. Pretty simple call to make and they got that one right (one of the few they did).

by Brian Floyd on Apr 5, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was out when he went out of the basepath, not when the ball hit him.

You can’t obstruct a throw when you are running in the basepath. The Mariners didn’t need to try to throw him out at second at all.

by seattle_since_81 on Apr 5, 2010 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you have to actually cause interference

Which would mean a throw had to be made. If he wasn’t hit, it becomes a judgment call and with the stellar crew today it probably wouldn’t end well.

by Brian Floyd on Apr 5, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

no.

Im not citing any rules, but if you run out of the basepath, you are out. this is why, in a pickle, runners dont run towards the pitching mound.

although it would make run downs more interesting…

Go! Huskies!

by rbr07 on Apr 6, 2010 6:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

And again, this is incorrect

The runner may establish his own basepath, except for between home and first where there is “the box” leading to first. The runner is then only out of the “basepath” when he is about to be tagged, which never happened in this case. When Figgins attempted to tag him, he stopped (in the basepath) and the throw was made to first. After that point, he was running on the infield grass (still fine) when he was hit. Once he was hit, the play is dead, he’s ruled out for interference and that’s it. If he wasn’t hit, it’s not going to be called.

A rundown is a completely different situation because the rules of basepaths go in to effect once a tag is being attempted.

by Brian Floyd on Apr 6, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I believe it should have been ruled interference when he sat down in the basepath

but no, typically being hit with a thrown ball is not interference, unless they ruled that he was out of the baseline when the ball hit him.

I believe the ruling was that Barton has started back towards his dugout, at which point he is automatically out by the rules.

Would have been nice if the first base ump had made any signal as to what happened on that play, though.

by seattlebruin on Apr 6, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Getting hit with a thrown ball while out of the base path would be interference.

by Brian Floyd on Apr 6, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

seriously.

“Ardsma woooo” brought a smile to my face like the memory of childhood Christmas mornings.

by bamassippi on Apr 5, 2010 10:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Looks more like the underside of a stallion to me

"Most all good Americans hate the Yankees. It is a value we cherish and pass on to our children like decency and democracy and the importance of a good breakfast." - William B. Mead

by Steve Nelson on Apr 5, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

flaccid

"Most all good Americans hate the Yankees. It is a value we cherish and pass on to our children like decency and democracy and the importance of a good breakfast." - William B. Mead

by Steve Nelson on Apr 5, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fun (probably not fun) fact:

Pronounced “FLAK-sid.” I was blown away when I realized this.

by Teej on Apr 5, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mentally flaccid, are we?

"Most all good Americans hate the Yankees. It is a value we cherish and pass on to our children like decency and democracy and the importance of a good breakfast." - William B. Mead

by Steve Nelson on Apr 5, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

And that makes it easier to remember how to spell it.

"Most all good Americans hate the Yankees. It is a value we cherish and pass on to our children like decency and democracy and the importance of a good breakfast." - William B. Mead

by Steve Nelson on Apr 5, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I almost don't believe this

Webster says both are ok. If you said FLAK-sid I probably wouldn’t know what you are talking about.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 5, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed it is.

Garner:

“Flaccid” is preferably pronounced /FLAK-sid/, not /FLA-sid/. All the traditional pronunciation guides have said so — and they’re right. As one authority explains: “When ‘cc-’ precedes ‘-e’ or ‘-i,’ the first ‘c-’ is pronounced ‘k-,’ the second ‘s-,’ as in ‘accede,’ ‘accelerate,’ ‘accept,’ ‘accessible,’ ‘flaccid,’ ‘succinct,’ etc.” Norman Lewis, Dictionary of Modern Pronunciation 76 (1963). The exception is Italian words used in English, such as “cappuccino.”

The limp, flabby pronunciation of the word — which some have tried to rationalize as a kind of sensory onomatopoeia (the logic being that “flaccid” denotes what is soft and should therefore have a soft “c” in the middle) — started gaining some (grudging) acceptance in the mid-20th century in Webster’s Third International Dictionary (1961) and other wordbooks.

In short, this word is a kind of skunked term: pronounce it in the traditional way, and you’ll take some flak for doing so; pronounce it in the new way, and the cognoscenti will probably infer that you couldn’t spell or say “cognoscenti,” either.

As a result of the spreading mispronunciation, the misspelling “flacid” (on the analogy of “placid”) has arisen — e.g.: “The succulent shellfish practically melted on the tongue, but the tempura coating was oddly flacid [read ‘flaccid’].” Cynthia Kilian, “A Win, Win Situation,” N.Y. Post, 12 May 2002, at 55.

by Teej on Apr 5, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions   5 recs

Who is incredible.

Seriously, if your life at all involves writing (in American English, at least), this book is absolutely mandatory.

by Teej on Apr 5, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

Where do you live?/Where were you raised?

I pronounce “succinct” without the K, but that’s it.

by Teej on Apr 6, 2010 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I pronounce all of them as "k-s", dividing syllables between the two sounds

raised in the Upper Midwest, but have lived on the West Coast since 1974.

In the last 20 years I’ve never met a professed regional accents expert who can accurately place me there. Most of them think I was raised on the West Coast; those who are less certain rule out the south, southeast, Appalachians, and east coast, but can’t be any more specific than that.

My family that stayed in the Midwest all say that I now speak with an accent.

"Most all good Americans hate the Yankees. It is a value we cherish and pass on to our children like decency and democracy and the importance of a good breakfast." - William B. Mead

by Steve Nelson on Apr 6, 2010 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I born and raised in Portland, and have lived here all my life.

Pretty much all those words I pronounce with only an ‘s’ sound for the cc. I don’t know if it’s regional though.

50!

by joof on Apr 6, 2010 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah succinct with a k sounds inappropriate.

And flakcid doesn’t sound as unmanning as flascid. I’m sticking with my mistakes on those.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 6, 2010 6:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. We rock.

Fucks used by Lookout Landing today: 344
Fucks used by total SBNation – 1150

Percentage fucks owned by LL: 29.9%. We own SBN.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 5, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love this team

Figgins is so fiesty! League looks like he’s insane. And Milton looked like he was on the verge of murdering someone. This team is just oozing of personality!

by niceguysfinishlast on Apr 5, 2010 10:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Coming soon!

Now with more lemon bars!

by Fear on Apr 5, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's awesome too

Between Bedard, Ichiro, Felix, RRS, Figgins, League, Bradley and probably a few others….this team is just full of characters

by niceguysfinishlast on Apr 5, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would agree.

Going to be a fun season. This is the kind of baseball I have missed. been so long Mariners. Give us a good exciting year.

by Kevin Casey on Apr 5, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus the patience, what a wonder to behold.

They picked up some walks. It was beautiful.

by TrustBaseball on Apr 5, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Also, the game thread was impossible to keep up with.

Very much like Oakland was unable to keep up with Figgins. That works for me.

by TrustBaseball on Apr 5, 2010 10:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Congrats, LL

As of 11:02 PST, 4705 comments in the gamethreads, not counting pre-game.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Apr 5, 2010 11:03 PM PDT reply actions  

4707 by my count. Shattered the previous record by almost 1500.

Also I believe it’s the first time we have gotten into a 5th gamethread.

FUCK ERIC BYRNES FUCK ERIC BYRNES!

by Goose on Apr 5, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jason Heyward is one month older than me.

I’m not sure why but this totally blows my mind.

"Why did he run when I was going to throw him out?"
- Ichiro Suzuki

by Slow Country on Apr 5, 2010 11:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Woooo!

Just got back from the game and it was awesome. Felix owned and the wackiness of Mariners baseball was fun to watch. Also definitely almost got stabbed in the bathroom for wearing Mariners gear but that’s how they roll in Oaktown. We got the last laugh though

by tsbicca on Apr 5, 2010 11:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Kotchman is the least excitable person i've ever seen.

Game winning hit = small double fist raised
Game over = chew fingernail and acknowledge Aarsama does indeed exist

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 5, 2010 11:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Game Destroyers

You convinced me, Jeff. Baseball needs robots! Things were out of control tonight.

by zeeehjee on Apr 5, 2010 11:12 PM PDT reply actions  

When Bradley caught the 2nd out of 9th he pretended to toss the ball into the stands then throw he through to Wilson.

The crowd went super crazy and started to chant Bradley Sucks and he did a little dance to it. I love him.

Fuck the Angels

by InSpokane on Apr 5, 2010 11:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Oakland announcers commented that he is gonna get yelled at for the rest of the series because of this

I think the quote was “sometimes you bring this sort of thing on yourself”. Probably true.

Also made up for that strikeout by breaking his own bat in frustration. If you are gonna strike out at least he chose to make it interesting.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 5, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rickey.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Apr 6, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's okay.

I don’t think it’s a flogable offense here.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Apr 6, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dinosaurs never existed.

Carl Everett was the first Mariner to publically state this. Therefore, Carl Everett is the most sane Mariner ever. Logic!

by LonelyintheBleachers on Apr 6, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Him and Ichiro think alike.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Apr 5, 2010 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

FUCK Athletics fans

Fuck them so hard. I knew Bradley would get crap but witnessing it first hand was bad. How heartless can they be? I was sitting above left field and those assholes were yelling crap at Bradley and I lost my voice yelling against those classless idiots. Fuck them. I wanted to run onto the field and give him a hug, you could tell he was annoyed but knowing him I’m sure he just used it for motivation. Dammit if Seattle fans don’t love him to death I’m gonna be pissed.

Carlos Silvelite

by OceanBird on Apr 6, 2010 1:12 AM PDT reply actions  

I feel the other way entirely.

I was sitting on the first base side, so I didn’t hear the particulars, but I love that he’s hated so much. It seems to me that Oakland doesn’t really like the Mariners…. I have to say that I love that the Mariners are hated so much. Milton Bradley is just like the prime example.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Apr 6, 2010 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

They really hate Ichiro and Griffey.

They boo Ichiro at every chance they get. Which I enjoy. I was on the third base side and whenever Griffey was up they would chant “What’s wrong with Griffey. He’s a bum.” At some point I stood and screamed he’s old and fat, but far from being a bum. The stopped the chant after that.

I had to ask my wife if I really defend Griffey?

Fuck the Angels

by InSpokane on Apr 6, 2010 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I heckled Ben Sheets a little bit, which was fun

and also let everyone in the area know how bad Rob Johnson is, and how his home run spelled doom and gloom for the A’s this season.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Apr 6, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

In general I wish M's fans were more like A's fans

Going to an A’s game is fun because the A’s fans actually care and have fun at the game. M’s games tend to be so quiet and rehearsed feeling. The A’s fans are just there to have a good time and it shows.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 6, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

If only there were more of us.

[sigh]

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Apr 7, 2010 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hilariously, one of my favorite baseball memories featured something similar.

It was a game in 2007 or 2008, and in between innings a fan had climbed down onto the field. He was wearing a jersey and light-colored shorts, so he seriously looked like he belonged there from a distance. He went down and literally just stood there talking to Ichiro! and Raul. He must’ve been down there for a good 90 seconds, just standing like nothing at all was amiss before one of the security sheriff’s at the game started running out to left center to apprehend him. When he saw the approaching sheriff, he just shrugged, turned to Ichiro! and put his arms out. Hugging ensued. No, seriously, he hugged Ichiro!. He then went to his knees and waited for the cuffs to be slapped on. It was like he had planned it all along. It was awesome.

by harkening on Apr 6, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Weird game.

The M’s got lucky in that Rob Johnson homered, and that Kurt Suzuki wanted to play catch with Rajai Davis, but on the other hand, two of the A’s three hits off Felix were pretty much jokes (Davis off the plate, Ryan Sweeney off the mound), Tim Tschida’s zone was wack, and all of those bases were rightfully stolen.

It seems like they got a little more unlucky than lucky and still got out with a 5-3 win. If that’s unlucky, we’re going to have a fun summer.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Apr 6, 2010 1:29 AM PDT reply actions  

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