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Series Preview: Seattle Mariners @ Oakland Athletics

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For those that are unsure of the second column, the triangle-looking symbol is actually the capital Greek letter Delta. In many fields it is used to denote change in some form or another. That column will represent the change in the Mariner values for the rows since the last series preview.

Don't sleep on the Athletics this season. As Jeff pointed out, they're a lot like us but have been steering through the off season waters without nearly as much hype. Their curious move to DFA Jack Cust and go with Eric Chavez as the DH (how long until he gets hurt anyways? What's the backup plan?) probably knocks their projections down a couple runs, but this is still a dangerous team.

 

Mon Apr 5, 19:05: Felix Hernandez vs. Ben Sheets

Tue Apr 6, 19:05: Ian Snell vs. Dallas Braden*

Wed Apr 7, 19:05: Ryan Rowland-Smith* vs. Justin Duchscherer

Thu Apr 8, 12:35: Doug Fister vs. Brett Anderson*

I'm trying out a new format for listing the upcoming games including adding the dates and times of the games, which some people have requested in the past. Yes, the game times are listed in the pacific time zone. If that irritates you, too bad; this is a west coast blog. Yes, the game times are listed in 24-hour format. If that confuses you, I suggest re-learning 1st grade math.

The last time Ben Sheets pitched a Major League game was September 27, 2008. I really have no idea what to possibly expect out of him in this start, much less this season. Back when he was only intermittently injured, Sheets relied on a 93mph fastball and an 80mph curveball almost exclusively. He would mix in a few mid-80s changeups once in a while but he was really a two-pitch guy. He was moderately a fly ball pitcher and it's worth noting that he has pitched his entire career with the Milwaukee Brewers in the National League.

Dallas Braden had his 2009 season cut short with a foot injury in August. Braden is an extreme fly ball guy who bested his core rates by posting a home run per fly ball rate about half of average. Oakland's park helps, but not that much. Braden is a pitch to the zone kind of guy. He doesn't miss many bats and focuses on getting first pitch strikes.

The last time Justin Duchscherer pitched a Major League game was August 18, 2008. Sensing a theme here? Oakland is deep but they also are relying on a lot of health risks. Duchscherer had been a full time reliever for years before the 2008 Athletics stuck him in the rotation. He lasted 22 starts then hurt his hip (again) and hasn't pitched in 18 months thanks to a second hip surgery and elbow surgery. I have my doubts that he ends 2010 with more innings pitched than Erik Bedard.

Brett Anderson is the Oakland starter that I worry the most about to continue their tradition of great young pitching. Making the jump from Double-A last season, Anderson had an underrated 2009 season. Always a big strikeout pitcher, Anderson managed to hold his walks steady even with the increase in level and still kept missing bats. It will be important to watch how hitters react to him with slightly more scouting tape at their disposal this season.

Below is a new table that I am fiddling around with. Basically, it lays out each pitcher's basic repertoire, frequency and average speed and then grades it on the familiar 20-80 scouting scale. The grades are determined by league percentiles in swinging strikes (K), strike rate (BB) and ground balls (GB) for each pitch. Hopefully this should give you an easy overview of each pitcher's strengths and weaknesses. The last row is the overall ranks for the pitcher based on all his pitches thrown*. This will rarely include the Mariner pitchers (the grades won't change much), but since this is new, I've decided to include them the first couple times through and for any new pitchers.

Felix Hernandez Ian Snell Ryan Rowland-Smith Doug Fister
Pitch%SpKBBGB
Fastball 69% 94 75 60 75
Slider 14% 88 75 65 75
Curve 10% 83 60 50 65
Change 7% 87 65 70 80
Overall -- -- 60 60 70
Pitch%SpKBBGB
Fastball 58% 92 55 35 40
Slider 27% 84 70 55 40
Change 13% 84 40 25 55
Overall -- -- 60 50 45
Pitch%SpKBBGB
Fastball 60% 88 45 65 35
Curve 20% 72 40 75 75
Change 16% 80 50 45 45
Overall -- -- 40 60 45
Pitch%SpKBBGB
Fastball 53% 88 25 45 25
Change 30% 81 40 80 65
Curve 11% 75 65 30 80
Slider 6% 82 35 80 30
Overall -- -- 40 65 45

Ben Sheets Dallas Braden Justin Duchscherer Brett Anderson
Pitch%SpKBBGB
Fastball 65% 93 75 75 40
Curve 29% 80 60 70 50
Change 7% 84 55 50 55
Overall -- -- 55 70 40
Pitch%SpKBBGB
Fastball 58% 88 40 65 50
Change 24% 74 70 70 25
Slider 14% 79 25 65 25
Overall -- -- 45 65 35
Pitch%SpKBBGB
Fastball 47% 85 40 40 40
Slider 27% 81 20 80 50
Curve 24% 70 75 60 60
Overall -- -- 45 65 50
Pitch%SpKBBGB
Fastball 55% 93 40 40 50
Curve 30% 82 70 75 80
Slider 9% 84 40 65 80
Change 6% 84 20 55 55
Overall -- -- 45 60 65

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Want to know why Felix's four pitches all rate 60 or above on the swinging strike scale, but his overall rate is just a 60? Good question! Felix's fastball rates as a 75 because his swinging strike rate on fastballs is in roughly the 90th percentile compared to all other fastballs. Fastballs are the least likely pitch to generate a swing and a miss. Most pitchers do not throw fastballs 70% of the time. While the average pitcher possesses a much weaker fastball than Felix, he also utilizes breaking balls, and their higher swinging strike rates, more often. Thus, Felix's overall swinging strike rate is deceptively low for having such quality individual pitches. Bendy things!

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Great new format for the series preview

I love the pitching charts, especially for the opposing pitchers. One suggestion, could you please give a brief blurb on the opponents lineup and defense, with any injured/missing starters or recently called up prospects noted. It would be immensly useful and informative if it does not take too much effort.

by tdot mariner fan on Apr 5, 2010 7:43 AM PDT reply actions  

I will be doing my best as the season goes on and there's actual numbers to interpret

but by and large keeping track of minute player movement across all teams is incredibly time consuming and day to day lineups fluctuate far too often to make sensible predictions unless you know the team intimately.

by Matthew on Apr 5, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

I understand requesting a lineup and defensive overview is kind of redundant after the divisional previews you just did.

by tdot mariner fan on Apr 5, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not confused by military time

I love mentally subtracting 12 hours to figure out what time it is

by lemonverbena on Apr 5, 2010 7:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Military time is also hospital time.

I didn’t expect to, but got sucked into watching BOS-NYY last night. I’m ready for baseball and very curious to see the reloaded Ms.

ignacio

by ignacio on Apr 5, 2010 8:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Love the charts, but

Why is the abbreviation for strike rate BB? This seems counter-intuitive, and I can imagine it being a problem for people who get on board mid-way through the season.

by katal on Apr 5, 2010 8:39 AM PDT reply actions  

So glad to be reading these again!

Pre-emptive thanks for the season long effort. Since you probably have tons of time on your hands, I wonder if you’d include HR or SLG in the pitcher grades, as its the only big thing missing from this profiles. Which are awesome, by the way.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 5, 2010 9:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Doug Fister's fastball is so lame

Hope its a sample thing. Also, I bet there’s a pretty significant effect on FB results for NL pitchers, since they rarely throw anything else to pitchers and get 3 StrSw pretty much every time.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 5, 2010 9:03 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm getting excited!

And I like the look of these matchups save for Anderson vs. Fister.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 5, 2010 9:16 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

It is good to see these again.

FUCK ERIC BYRNES FUCK ERIC BYRNES!

by Goose on Apr 5, 2010 9:34 AM PDT reply actions  

I know it's the same amount of time to wait

But, it feels unfair that I have to wait until 10pm for Mariners baseball and my friends on the West coast get it at 7.

Stupid wrong coast.

by Snuffleupagus on Apr 5, 2010 9:56 AM PDT reply actions  

This looks really awesome Matthew.

It would be cool if you keep the swinging strike stuff up throughout the season. Pretty awesome.

by Kirk on Apr 5, 2010 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Does anyone else feel like the 20-80 scouting scale is silly?

I mean, why 20-80? Wouldnt it be better to start a scale at 0 and go to a round number like 50 or 100? I guess this is America and we like silly scales here, like using Fahrenheit temperatures and avoiding the metric system.

by ARock on Apr 5, 2010 11:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Tango made a very useful analogy a while back I thought was very useful

comparing 20-80 scale to our scale we use for replacement players. Think of it like the winning percentage for pitchers where a 20 is a replacement player and an 80 is an elite player.

by Edgar for Pres on Apr 5, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I, for one, like the 20-80 ratings.

In this case, are they based on comparing guys on a percentile basis and then converting to 20-80, or is this just gut observations? BTW I also appreciate using nothing but 0s and 5s in the “ones” column.

by Johnny Slick on Apr 5, 2010 2:40 PM PDT reply actions  

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The grades are determined by league percentiles in swinging strikes (K), strike rate (BB) and ground balls (GB) for each pitch.

by Matthew on Apr 5, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It will be interesting how Sheets pitches

He can strike out a lot of guys. No matter how well he pitches, I think facing Felix in game 1 gives us the advantage of winning this season opener.

By the way, Mariner fans are tough! Those poll results with the Wins and expected finish in AL West are not very optimistic!!! Why would more than half of the fans think the team will not even get a wildcard. Thats what the season is for, for us to be optimistic and hope we are the ones that jump out by a few wins more than the other teams, because everyone is going to be close.

by fortyniners on Apr 5, 2010 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I like to think of the glass half full of water and half full of air.

Unless you’re in a submarine, then it’s half full of air and half full of water. Now I’ve hurt my brain.

by LonelyintheBleachers on Apr 5, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was optimistic in my vote (first)

but I imagine those who voted second realised that the M’s likely won’t get the Wild Card ahead of the AL East runner-up.

by Eyeball Kid on Apr 5, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats why I thought it should be between Mariners and Angels

rather than Mariners and a wild-card leader (which might have better record than Angels).

So in that case I thought our offseason compared to Angels leads to majority of fans thinking we can dethrone the A’s. Or atleast hope to rather than already say that it’s too early rather than ‘hope’ to in your mind but still expect not to win

by fortyniners on Apr 5, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

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