Series Preview: Seattle Mariners @ Kansas City Royals
by Matthew on Apr 26, 2010 11:00 AM PDT
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PrintSeattle: 9-10
Kansas City: 7-11
| MARINERS | Δ Ms | ROYALS | EDGE | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| HITTING (wOBA) |
-13.4 (26th) | -7.4 | 15.6 (4th) | Kansas City |
| FIELDING (?) | 14.9 (1st) | 1.0 | -3.4 (22nd) | Seattle |
| ROTATION (tRA) |
-8.2 (25th) | -4.2 | -0.5 (17th) | Kansas City |
| BULLPEN (tRA) |
-7.6 (28th) | -4.9 | -15.0 (30th) | Seattle |
| OVERALL(RAA) |
-14.3 | -15.5 | -3.3 | KANSAS CITY |
Ouch. Ow ow ow. That series hurt. It's over with though and the good news is that we get to face the Royals, we get a turn from Felix and after this comes the return of Cliff Lee in an important series against division foe Texas. For now, the team needs to get back to its winning ways in Kansas City which is doable, but there are challenges to be faced as well.
Mon Apr 26, 17:10: Felix Hernandez vs. Kyle Davies
Tue Apr 27, 17:10: Ian Snell vs. Zack Greinke
Wed Apr 28, 11:10: Ryan Rowland-Smith* vs. Gil Meche
At least Felix takes the bump today. A typical showing from him would go a long way to easing our memories of this past series. Kyle Davies should provide an opportunity for the Mariners to put their walking shoes back on. This lineup is never going to be a potent one, but it can fool people into believing that when it works the count and draws walks, especially at the top.
Right after we're (hopefully) done soothing our injured egos with a thrashing of Davies, we get Ian Snell against Zack Greinke which is just haha funny. Originally, Zack Greinke graded out at 55-55-40 on the overall rankings in the below tables, which made me re-evaluate my cutoffs so some of those overall numbers are going to look quite different now than they were before. I think I had left relief pitchers in on the original sample from which I drew my percentile cutoffs.
Felix is good.
I would prefer that the Mariners face former-Mariner Gil Meche like they faced former-Mariner J.J. Putz and not like they faced former-Mariner Matt Thornton.
Wait, we're going up against a Kyle, Zack and Gil this series? Are we playing baseball in Kansas City or bocce ball at the yacht club?
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Sounds like a rich old man's name.
But Zack is definitely a preppy name.
by Hopefulmsfan on Apr 26, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe it's a sailor name?
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 26, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
It seems like Ian is a preppier name than Gil
by seattlebruin on Apr 26, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
the only Gil I know
is a rather wealthy man, living in a very poor town in which he owns the most prospering business chain.
by marinerschas2 on Apr 26, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a very white name and all white people are preppy
by Matthew on Apr 26, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
And Kyle? Come on!
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Apr 26, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
This is what the internet tells me:
The boy’s name Gil \gil\ is a variant of Gilbert (Old French), Giles (Greek) and Gilon (Hebrew), and the meaning of Gil is “bright promise; small goat; joy”.
Apparently it was in the top 1000 baby names between 1940 and 1970 and has fallen on hard times recently. That means if you meet a Gil it is likely that he is between 40 and 70 yrs old. Prime rich old guy years.
by Edgar for Pres on Apr 26, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Likely between 40 and 70 years?
Makes for a fucking old goat.
by Matt Erickson on Apr 26, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Fucking old "small" goat apparently.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 26, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Meche is from LA
I think it’s more common there
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 26, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought you meant Los Angeles for a second and got really confused
Also, I always thought his first name was actually Gil but apparently its Gilbert which is way more common and boring.
by Edgar for Pres on Apr 26, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
FELIX DAY YEAH.
I purchased my first legitimate M’s jersey today, number 34 of course, thus contributing +1 to Felix’s overall power…..or something nerdy like that.
Also, I’m just going to pretend this last weekend of sports didn’t happen. Today is a new god damn day!
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Apr 26, 2010 11:15 AM PDT reply actions
Seahawks?....
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 26, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not a Seahawks fan, but props to them for drafting well.
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Apr 26, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Mike Sweeney has swung at 60% of the pitches he's seen this year?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
He proved himself in spring training, he's obviously just in a slump.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 26, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
IF YOU AINT HACKIN, YOU AINT HITTIN.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 26, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
HACK THE PLANET
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Apr 26, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Thus justifying his spot on the team for the next month at least.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
In other words Sweeney actually producing would be the worst possible thing here.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 26, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
False hope is a horrible thing.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
It is a bitch.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 26, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that's just idiocy actually.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
He always seemed to start the season with a couple good starts, then the bottom falls out.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 26, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Fingers crossed.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
You forgot the key issue in this matchup
The Battle for Grass Creek continues!
by Dewey N on Apr 26, 2010 11:36 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It's sad how the Royals have been hitting the shit out of the ball
And they’re 7-11.
by Manzanillos Cup on Apr 26, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions
I had no idea they were hitting the shit out of the ball.
Surprised the hell out of me when I looked up the stats.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 26, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Ian Snell vs Zach Greinke
Some heckler out there is drooling at the prospect of these fragile egos
Malfunctioning.
Social anxiety disorder. He signed with the Rangers, but didn’t report to spring training due to those issues, so they voided his contract.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
Yes...very depressing...
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 26, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
It's a bad position to be in.
Terrible fear of being ostracized or otherwise singled out, while trying to win a job, with a team in a league you’ve never played in.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
In the shop for repairs to his positronic net
Mariners/D Broncos/BSU Broncos fan in Seattle
The first rule of Lookout Landing is...
by appleshampoo on Apr 26, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Any word on Wilson?
Obviously Hannahan would be the better option over Tui.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 26, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Hannahan has yet to play short in Tacoma
(sadface)
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
You can't get Josh Wilson out of the line-up!
.360 wOBA + pretty nice defense.
Have him play second?
Or third?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Apr 26, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
But....Chris Woodward!
And they just got Ramon Vazquez back, which means we have a ‘hey remember the good times we had a decade ago’ guy on both the Rainiers and the Mariners.
Right, Vazquez makes it trickier.
Woodward I don’t know what to do with because he went from us, to the Red Sox, and back again, which just seems… wrong…
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Apr 26, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Playing lots of 3B right?
I think that’s the position he was playing yesterday but not 100% positive.
by seattle_since_81 on Apr 26, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Just third and DH
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Apr 26, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I was having a good day.
Then I started grading philosophy papers. My good day turned into a day. Then I decided to look at some team stats for the year. Mariners’ DH production (from Fangraphs):
OPS: .432 (last in MLB by a lot)
wOBA: .209 (last in MLB by a lot)
Now I’m not sure what type of day I’m having. I feel slightly depressed, but also rather amused.
And perhaps even more amusing:
SLG: .186 (last in MLB; second worst (Red Sox) is .324).
That seriously sucks for your philosophy students.
Angry grading is never good.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 26, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Happy to see another prof here
I’m also in the midst of grading papers—never a mood booster, that’s for sure. Still trying to put this week-end’s losses behind me and remain hopeful about the series with KC. Somehow it’s a subdued Felix Day.
Subdued Felix Day....
This is an abomination.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 26, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Felix day!
Today is a good day after all. I shall make my students write thank you notes to King Felix.
(Leanna: I’m still a grad student, but I’m nearing the end.)
OK, mustering my excitement and appropriate reverence for El Rey.
Keep up the hard work! Recently finished myself. God, how I miss Seattle, the M’s and the Safe. Need to start planning a summer trip up North as it will soon be a thousand degrees in AZ.
I'm hoping for a season ending injury.
I like him, he seems like a nice guy, hopefully all his hacking will throw out his back.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 26, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
We are 9-10 with brighter skies ahead. I think we'll be fine.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 26, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I understand that, and I know we've underperformed to expectations
I think that we are fortunate to be 9-10, looking at our 26th overall wOBA, 25th overall rotation tRA, and 28th overall bullpen tRA. It’s clearly been a rough start.
I'm suprised our rotation did so poorly that series
Was it all RR-S?
I thought our rotation was excellent except for RRS.
It may have been the homeruns that hurt us.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 26, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Snell, too, with his close-together face.
I kinda want to see Snell in the pen when Lee gets back. How would his raw stuff play in the pen? Maybe he can crank it up a notch and dominate. He’s been meh as a starter at best and Snell Day usually sucks. Best of all, dominant bullpen Snell adds to tantalizing yet troubled starter Snell’s trade value. Maybe a relief hungry contender (St Louis) will trade for bullpen Snell this year with an eye toward starting him next year. Maybe they’ll give us a ML-ready OF bat that has nowhere to play (Allen Craig). Upgrades for everyone!
by Sukafish on Apr 26, 2010 1:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Speaking of Cliff Lee
Steve Kelley (of all people) has a plain old news story covering Lee’s outing in Tacoma.
“Wow,” Arizona Diamondbacks scout Jeff Cirillo said after watching Cliff Lee throw six stainless innings in Sunday afternoon’s rehabilitation assignment with the Class AAA Rainiers."
He also said this
FREE ADAM MOORE
by killer_ewok18 on Apr 26, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Bradley and Wilson are back in the lineup tonight!
Bradley is playing the outfield D:
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
Hmm. I am bad at this.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Apr 26, 2010 4:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't get your hopes up, Sweeney's legs would just be flat for a second and then a second later he would reinflate them.
by ChristopherA on Apr 26, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
This made me think of Sweeney as the villain from "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?"
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Apr 26, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Re: Snell
via Baker
Snell also told me he’s been battling an inner ear issue ever since he fell ill in the days leading up to his most recent start eight days ago. He’s been taking Sudafed for it the past week, as per the team medical staff’s advice, but his ear remains blocked. Hopping on planes hasn’t helped him any. He told me he can barely hear out of the one ear and that it sometimes gets rather painful. I asked him whether this could impact his pitching at all, given the balance issues associated with inner ear problems, and he simply shrugged as if to say he had no idea.
I probably should have used quotation marks.
It looks as though I’d been having a little chat with Ian myself.
This reminds me of Willie Bloomquist's vertigo.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Apr 26, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow.
He needs to hit the DL instead of trying to gut through it. We need the roster spot and he’s not doing anybody any favors by putting himself through this. Any chronic pain WILL affect performance and who knows how much that is affecting his sense of balance, focus, direction, etc. DL him and backdate it to his last start. And if he still smells when he returns, send him to the pen.
by Sukafish on Apr 26, 2010 3:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Jesus, what the fuck is wrong with Snell's immune system?
Get that man some god damn vitamins.
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Apr 26, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
15 day DL would be nice
Mariners/D Broncos/BSU Broncos fan in Seattle
The first rule of Lookout Landing is...
by appleshampoo on Apr 26, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Just a note on mobiLLe formatting.
The pitch grading stats at the end of these series previews always screws with LL mobile formatting. It seems that a single carriage return after the stats might solve the issue.
Again, not that big of a deal, but if it has a simple fix, it’d be nice going forward for those of us who use mobiLLe frequently.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Apr 26, 2010 3:45 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
There is a carriage return between them.
I’m sympathetic to the plight, but without being able to easily test possible solutions, it’s not something that’s going to fly up to to do list.
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