5-6, Game Thoughts
There was only one thing wrong with the game tonight. Literally, one thing. And that's that the game didn't end when Felix came out in the seventh. Everything through that point was perfect. Dominant outing for Felix. Productive lineup. Wacky antics. Enthusiastic audience. Hysterically bad Tigers defense. For six and two-thirds innings, it was the perfect baseball game. The only downside is that the perfect baseball game had another 2.1 meaningless innings tacked on to the end. They shouldn't play those innings. There should be a rule that, if it's a blowout, and the starting pitcher comes out to a rousing ovation, the game is over. There's no point to playing out the string. All those innings do is make people late for stuff. And it's not like you can just not watch them. You feel obligated. Those innings are like taking fans of a playoff team and making them watch some of the...I dunno. Orioles? You just sit there and think "why do these innings exist?"
Still, if my biggest complaint about a game is that the Mariners spent too much time blowing out the opposition, I suppose I shouldn't make a big stink of things.
- That game wasn't Felix Hernandez at his best, but for the first three innings or so, it was damn close. Felix was flashing legitimate no-hit stuff as he plowed through the first nine batters with five strikeouts, and though he slowed down a bit later on, one wonders how much of that was due to his being put in the unfamiliar position of waiting in the dugout for the offense to stop hitting.
Felix wound up with nine strikeouts in his 6.2 innings. There were six baserunners, but three were suspect, and the Tigers had trouble putting the ball in the air. And there were several highlights, from the consecutive swinging strikeouts to start the game to the 1-6-3 double play in the fifth. It was almost a shame that the game was a laugher by the time Felix departed, as by that point it would've been easy to forget how important he'd been in the early innings, but he still got his ovation, which was a nice touch. Seattle may not have the most boisterous fans in baseball, but they love them some Felix.
I'm not sure what my actual favorite moments were, but the two whiffs of Adam Everett are up there. On a night like tonight, Felix is like our own little slice of the Yankees, and Adam Everett is like our own little slice of the Yankees playing the Astros. - While I'm thinking about that ovation, full marks to a crowd of 39,999 that I feared had only shown up for the offensively Mexican-looking Griffey bobblehead. I'm usually skeptical of the crowds that show up on giveaway nights, but the one tonight was in it from the beginning, with actual two-strike cheers, a huge response to Franklin Gutierrez's double, and the aforementioned standing O for Felix. That ovation came in an 11-2 ballgame, and while you could argue that the score had put everyone in a positive mood, you could also argue that the score allowed fans to zone out, so I was pleasantly surprised by the reception. Felix deserved it.
I and others make fun of the typical Safeco crowd all the time, but tonight was a playoff atmosphere, and there's no denying that Safeco can do a playoff atmosphere about as well as anybody else. And it's mind-boggling how much of a difference that can make with regard to the viewing experience. Tonight was fun. - FSN is using a new PITCHfx-based graphic this year showing the in-game pitch breakdown for the starters. They've got %fastballs, %breaking balls, and %offspeed. This is a really good idea, but unfortunately they don't have anybody checking the data before it goes up on the screen, which is how you end up seeing an FSN graphic showing that Felix threw 18% fastballs tonight. Felix actually threw 56% fastballs in the game, but arriving at that mark requires a little manual labor. Call me, FSN.
- Tonight's game featured 12 Mariner hits, six Mariner walks, two Mariner steals, and three Mariner forced errors. Watching the offense tonight was a lot of fun. Watching the offense during the slump was no fun, however - at all - so it's important not to get too carried away with enthusiasm. This wasn't what the front office drew up. This was beyond what the front office drew up. We can't expect this sort of outburst very often. What we can expect is something that splits the middle between tonight and the bad nights. Something kind of like Opening Day. Opening Day was a lot more representative than either tonight or the slump.
- Chone Figgins drew three walks. He's now up to nine in 48 trips to the plate. He saw 20 pitches tonight and swung at four. I'm beginning to think that if you go up to the plate and just stand there - seriously just stand there - you can Michelangelo's David your way to a .360 OBP, because pitchers are that bad. Pitchers are so bad at throwing strikes against even the most punchless batters that they need the batters to help get themselves out, and if they don't, it just turns into a walk-fest. Look at Felix in the seventh. Felix had an 11-2 lead. There was no point in messing around and doing anything other than throw the ball down the middle. And even one of the best pitchers in the league still threw 12 of 22 pitches for balls. Pitchers suck at throwing strikes, and for some reason it takes a hitter like Figgins or Reggie Willits, with a startling lack of true hitting ability, to recognize this and exploit it. Must be an ego thing.
- The best part of Figgins' evening, though? The ball he drove in the bottom of the fourth. No pitcher ever expects Figgins to swing at the first pitch of an at bat, so Bonderman went with the belt-high fastball, and Figgins jumped on it and nearly launched it out of the park. He didn't, because he's Chone Figgins, but it was funny to see him come out of his shell.
- In the bottom of the third inning, Ichiro stood on second base with two out when Chone Figgins drew a five-pitch walk. On the fifth pitch, however, Ichiro took off for third and made it in, no problem. This is one of those plays that seems more risky than intelligent, as standing on third isn't a whole lot better than standing on second with two outs, but I liked this steal, because what it did was take the low slider away from Jeremy Bonderman. Or at least make him think twice about throwing it. The low slider is probably Bonderman's go-to weapon for swinging strikes, but if he threw it against Franklin Gutierrez, he risked a run-scoring wild pitch or passed ball. So he went with the heat instead, and Gutierrez lined an 0-1 fastball into the gap for a two-run triple. Considering Gutierrez had trouble with the low slider in both the first and fourth innings, Ichiro's steal may have really changed the course of that critical at bat.
- It seems like every single fly ball hit in Johnny Damon's direction is accompanied by a remark about his terrible throwing arm. I made a note to write something about this, but then I remembered I already made the same point a year ago. So, read that point. In short, as far as Dave Sims is concerned, Johnny Damon's shoulder is attached to a teaspoon.
- In the bottom of the fifth, after a Magglio Ordonez throw beat him to the plate, Ichiro scored with one of the better slides you'll see this year. Making it an 11-2 ballgame. Ordinarily, in a situation like this, there'd be at least a little grumbling about "poor sportsmanship" or whatever, but there was none of that here, perhaps because Ichiro's slide was so incredible. Moral to coaches and young athletes: if you're going to run up the score, make sure you do it amazingly.
- Also in the bottom of the fifth, Chone Figgins took a 3-1 fastball low and away for ball four, but as he stepped towards first base, he paused when umpire Brian Knight gestured with his hand. Knight was just scratching his back, though, and didn't mean to send mixed signals. It sounds stupid in words, but this should better convey the hilarity. I think umpires should do this with pitchers they don't like. Striiiiiii'm just kidding, gotta scratch my back...
- Rob Johnson continues to demonstrate a stunning inability to catch a baseball. Tonight he let a fastball hit him in the foot. Straight-up hit him in the foot. Didn't touch glove or anything. Just foot. Everybody has to realize how often this happens, but I wonder if Mariner pitchers might not see it from the opposite viewpoint as us. Our understanding is that Johnson can't catch. The pitchers' understanding, however, may be that their pitches are moving so much that even a Major League backstop struggles to catch them. In that way, Johnson is less bastion of incompetence and more flattering mirror. It all depends on your perspective.
- For the first two or three innings of the game, Dave Niehaus' nose was whistling every single time he took a breath. I thought it was the funniest thing when I noticed it, but from then on I couldn't unnotice it, and it drove me slowly insane. I like to think that my Twitter was responsible for getting him to blow his nose during a commercial break.
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Gotta agree about the last 2 1/3 innings.
After seeing Felix dominate, watching the rest of the game was a pain.
The Niehaus nose was awesome
But not as awesome as Figgins freezing in place before running to first.
Carlos Silvelite
I don't think awesome is the right word
More like annoying.
"Johnny Damon's shoulder is attached to a teaspoon."
What a whoot! Yeah, it old news, but it’s still funny. And, this is a new way to look at it,.
Do you honestly think that pitchers love that RJ can't catch?
When will they realize that his bat in the line-up is worse than a catcher that can actually field their awesome pitches and catch their awesome pitches and HIT worth a $())&?
That part was a joke
but I do genuinely believe they don’t see it as much of a problem, given his other perceived strengths.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 17, 2010 1:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Has this site addressed the fact...
… that Rob Johnson was ranked first in runs saved as a catcher in The Fielding Bible last year? I was just reminded of this tidbit and thought it was interesting.
Johnson came in at +4
Kenji came in at +7, leading the league.
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 17, 2010 1:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Rob Johnson is three true outcometacular
In 23 plate appearances, Johnson has struck out 8 times, walked 5 times, hit a homerun, and been hit by a pitch. That is 65% of plate appearences
Stats are not a euphemism for tits
Yes. I would like to point out that, in the top picture, the catcher has the ball already:

Only Ichiro…
by Fett42 on Apr 17, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
Ichiro could have definitely been a ninja
by Edgar for Pres on Apr 17, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
"Could have... been"?
I’m fairly sure he already is a ninja assassin for hire. His Adenhart “drunk driving accident” plot was perfect.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 17, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
God damn, I don't I've seen a slide quite like that.
Jah bless Ichiro.
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Apr 17, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I was up in 333 looking straight down at this play.
When that throw came in I thought he was going to be out by a mile. Hell of a slide.
Rob Johnson has become an interesting thing to watch.
Usually management isn’t “wrong” about players, so much as misguided. “Derek Jeter is a good shortstop because when he gets to the ball he can make an amazing play.” They’re right, when he got to the ball he used to make amazing players, but defense is more than just making amazing plays. “Betancourt is a good hitter because he has a high batting average.” They’re right, he has (had?) a high batting average, but hitting is more than just batting average.
But Johnson was “a good catcher because he plays defense well.” And yet, he doesn’t. This is weird to me. The conversation has changed now to his rapport with the pitchers and ability to call a game, but the original discussion about Johnson was that he was a no hit, good defense catcher, and for once it seems like even those things he was evaluated on were actually wrong.
...and now I'm here
That gif of the umpire was nice also. Thanks for your recaps, Jeff! (For someone frequently having to use Gamecast, they are a godsend.).
Finally an umpired does something pretty cool (unintentional I know, but anyway, nice!).
I always like this one better

Stats are not a euphemism for tits
by Trenchtown on Apr 17, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's hilarious
I don’t remember seeing that bottom one before
by fortyniners on Apr 17, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Just call him Drop Johnson
You only have to add a letter at the beginning of his first name and invert the last letter along the horizontal axis. It was meant to be. ;-)
Your point about throwing strikes is a really good one.
And it makes hacktastic guys like Lopez even more infuriating.
Why did Felix stay in to 100+ pitches?
I thought he might not pitch the 7th at all. Is it actually better for his arm to go ahead and get 100 pitches on his start day? I wasn’t sure about the motivation there. It seems like if you can afford to get him some extra rest it would make sense.
Oh sorry I misread your post.
He threw 110 his last start, and 101 the start before. Perhaps Wak thinks he is rested up enough already?
by magistermilitum on Apr 17, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm just wondering what the reason is to not rest him more
I assume it’s better for him to throw 105 pitches as opposed to 90ish pitches (is there a way to see what his pitch count was after 6 innings?).
by Snuffleupagus on Apr 17, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Any thoughts on Brynes' absurd uppercut swing?
You’d almost think he was trying to pop everything straight up. He’s easily my new most hated at-bat. At least Wilson switches things up.
"We're pilgrims in an unholy land..."
I bet Jeremy Bonderman thinks the Mariners have enough offense
Is it strange that I start laughing whenever Figgins is up to bat?
by Nobody Anonymous on Apr 17, 2010 10:10 AM PDT reply actions
The two strike cheers were definitly instigated by the hyper-active jumbotrun guy
double-clicking the “NOISE” button. Often it was quiet as all hell with two strikes until the bobbler’s noticed the scoreboard. But yeah, the Felix ovation was 100% legit awesome crowd love.
Also, those two doilies to start off the rally were unbelievable. Both Drop Johnson and Hack Wilson trying to give away outs… Hilarious.
Love the SBnation story headline:
Mariners Deliver Death By Paper Cuts
I love all the comments about MR. CHONE FIGGINS
He is having a huge impact on this team already. We can see what he does with his own at bats and it has been written that he gets on his teammates about not getting themselves out by swinging at bad pitches.
I think it was in yesterday’s Trib that Chone got Griffey to stop drinking 10-12 cans of soda a day and drink water and juice instead. When Rick Griffin told everyone that Griffey lost 7 pounds over the winter and then I saw him and his midsection was still as big as a VW, I was thinking “Sure he has lost weight (wink, wink).” But, if Chone got Griffey to stop drinking soda, he may actually lose weight. Not that it will improve Griffey’s performance. But, it just shows Chone’s teammates trust him and are listening to him which is good because he is a winner and a leader.
No one told Babe Ruth to stop drinking.
Just saying.
by refuse2lose2010 on Apr 17, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I must have missed the final happenings of the "In Z We Trust Banner"
but I saw it last night from the LF bleachers and thought “hey that’s really cool.” No problem reading it at all and it looked great, so is the banner going to be passed around or is that where it’s going to live?
That's where it lives
because both Sec108 and brettmiller sit in that section. The M’s won’t let it be permanently attached, so Brett for the most part takes it home every night and puts it up the next game.
I thought they were leaving it at a nearby pub?
And other folks volunteered to do it for other games?
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 17, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
How about Franklin Gutierrez?
He won’t and doesn’t need to keep up this rate on offense but if he can somehow be a decidedly above average hitter for the rest of the year that would just be dandy. A top of the order of Ichiro, Figgins, Gutierrez, and Bradley could really do some damage.
The only real two lost causes in the lineup seem to be Sweeney/Griffey and Jack Wilson
Catcher seems hopeless to some but Rob Johnson has been above average so far and if he falters too much Adam Moore gets a chance to show he can hit. Then we’ve got Ichiro, Gutierrez, Bradley, Lopez, and Figgins checking in at average to above average and Kotchman who I think should project to be slightly below average with a chance to be a bit better. The phrase “bottom half of the order” is an exaggeration that’s probably come about because of how bad our entire offense looked over that stretch of suckitude.
Jack Wilson is far worse than the DH's.
I think Jack needs to be in a seperate category with his hacking ways, zero power, and low OBP. Then again, he does bat ninth. I hope he gets on the Rob Johnson Program of accepting he can’t hit, and just taking pitches. If you’re going to bat .200 with no power, you can at least shoot for a .350 OBP and 4+ pitches per PA. Taking a lot of pitches makes it harder to GIDP, as well. 12 of 13 first hitters took the first pitch last night. Playing as a team, you have to love it after all the misery of the last decade.
by refuse2lose2010 on Apr 17, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I can live with the catchers. I think Moore will eventually start to hit and combine
that with Johnson’s new found plate discipline and by midseason I think they will be providing average catcher offense.
Wilson is a black hole, but we all knew that coming in. I don’t even let myself get agitated by his ABs. He’s here to play defense.
In my opinion, if we had one more legit bat for LF or DH we’d have a solid mediocre lineup, which combined with the return of Lee and our defense would be plenty enough to challenge for this division. I have no doubt Jack will find a good bat for LF or DH in the next month or two. When we have that, then we’ll have seven or eight (if the catchers progress) league average or slightly better bats in the order and that will be fine.
The fact that Johnson has managed to be above average so far is hilarious.
He looks so clueless and impotent at the plate on so many swings that I have no faith in his ability to maintain his production.
At least in his cluelessness he's tended to swing less
I kind of hope he hits .200, so long as he keeps that .390 OBP. No chance, but lets keep the bat on his shoulder and see how long he can keep it up!
by refuse2lose2010 on Apr 17, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
re Running up the score in a blowout..
Ordinarily, in a situation like this, there’d be at least a little grumbling about “poor sportsmanship” or whatever,
I always liked Whitey Herzog’s saying, while managing his punchless Cardinal teams. “We’ll stop stealing bases if you quit trying to hit homeruns.”
And of course, there was the game in Mariner History which should remain unmentioned.
Sprague killed 117
The only ball that can kill you besides a home run in that situation

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