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This is as yet unconfirmed, and it's not something that really matters a whole lot anyway, but it seems the Mariners have signed or are close to signing infielder Ramon Vazquez. Vazquez was dumped by the Pirates a week ago after failing to impress during camp, and nothing screams 'potential difference-maker' quite like getting dumped by the Pirates.

I have a soft spot for Vazquez, because nine years ago he posted a .397 OBP in Tacoma as a shortstop. Of course, those were also the years of Jason Grabowski, so it's been a long time, but unlike Grabowski, Vazquez is still kicking, and even had himself a successful season in 2008. He didn't do much with Pittsburgh in 2009, and at 33 he's not about to get any better, but we're talking about a middle infielder with a career .267/.344/.381 batting line against righties over 1800 trips to the plate, so he's not worthless. Interesting to have a middle infielder that bats lefty and throws righty.

If this is true, what purpose would Vazquez serve? Depth, mainly. This isn't a Major League deal - it's a minor league contract that will have Vazquez work out in Arizona before reporting to Tacoma. Tacoma already has Josh Wilson, Chris Woodward, and Travis Denker splitting the middle infield (edit: and, for a little while, Jack Hannahan, too), which makes things difficult to figure, but Vazquez is at least better than the first two, as the lefty bat helps him stand out. So he's a nice guy to have around.

Big news? Hardly. Vazquez may never appear in a Major League game. But there are worse things to have in the system than utility infielders that bat from the left-hand side and know how to draw a walk. I want to emphasize again that this is unconfirmed and may not even go down, but I wouldn't write this post if I were skeptical, so take it for what you will. It's good to have depth.

Update: I should note that Jason Grabowski is still kicking. Just not in baseball. I'm pretty sure he isn't dead.

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That would have been a terrible obituary for someone.

A side note on the signing of a minor league utility infielder.

by marinerdan on Apr 16, 2010 11:20 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

It's done

Vazquez will hang out in Arizona until the Rainiers are back home next weekend. Not yet “official,” but adding Hannahan to the roster for his rehab complicates things, so I imagine there may not be a press release for a day or five.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 16, 2010 11:32 AM PDT reply actions  

When did we pick up Travis Denker?

Anyways, nice to have someone who can play shortstop without being embarassing if Wilson goes down before Hannahan is ready.

by OlSalty on Apr 16, 2010 11:32 AM PDT reply actions  

By the way

the reason Drayer and I say different things is because she’s getting her info from the team, and I am not.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 16, 2010 11:47 AM PDT reply actions  

So is he like backup for Hannahan?

I’m sure that Jack will be our primary backup at third and short because of his fielding skills (Vazquez is a little below average at short and bad everywhere else).

A Mariners fan in Seattle

by Coach Owens on Apr 16, 2010 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Will Sweeney go on DL for Hannahan?

I would like to see Tui go down to AAA for awhile to play everyday, Hannahan up when ready, and Sweeney/Griffey to DL with a Langerhans call-up. I like that they will at least have some depth in the middle that isn’t totally useless with the bat.

by refuse2lose2010 on Apr 16, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I ask because Tui has been getting spot duty.

Hannahan’s bat isn’t really worth getting in the lineup, so I see him getting less playing time than Tui if everyone is healthy. Really hope we don’t see Sweeney at first.

by refuse2lose2010 on Apr 16, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

But neither his defense or bat plays better than Kotchman.

Plus Jack is left-handed, so really this roster move will solidify Kotchman at first, even when the match-up is unfavorable. I’m okay with this, but just want to clarify that the platoon option is gone.

by refuse2lose2010 on Apr 16, 2010 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

?

Jack would serve as a backup for third and short. Giving us not only a reliable defensive replacement for Lopez for late in the games but also a possible left-handed version of Jack Wilson (depending on how well he can do at SS). Kotchman has nothing to do with it.

A Mariners fan in Seattle

by Coach Owens on Apr 16, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe I confused you

I’m just referring to the fact that Tui has played first for a couple games already against lefties to spell Kotchman. Since Tui will be replaced by Hannahan, it makes sense to consider how the role for that roster spot changes. Like you said, Jack will be a backup, whereas it seems Tui is a bat Wak has tried to get in the lineup a little bit. So my argument is simply that this could put some pressure on Kotchman because he’s more likely to play against a lefty now, against whom he struggles. I mean who can we relieve him with on those days, Sweeney? Hope not. I don’t necessarily disagree with Kotchman playing everyday though. Those games with Tui at first left us with no middle infielder on the bench. One might argue even with Tui on the bench there isn’t a true middle infielder available. So, godspeed Jack!

by refuse2lose2010 on Apr 16, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loafie probably could.

Start Hannahan at third and Loafie at first.

A Mariners fan in Seattle

by Coach Owens on Apr 16, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Defensively, this might be slightly better actually.

If you consider that good defense is more valuable at 3B than 1B, and Hannahan is a great defender, there are some advantages. But how much better is Hannahan than Loafie at 3B? We need to see more of Jose at 3B to know for sure. Kotchman’s bat is significantly better than Hannahan’s, in almost all areas. For that reason I can’t see this adding value overall, certainly not offensively. On days that Kotchman NEEDS a day off, the alignment is something to think about, if Lopez doesn’t mind being at 1B while he’s still trying to learn 3B. I’d like Wak to give Lopez as many starts at third as he can in the early going here.

by refuse2lose2010 on Apr 16, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't Ramon Vazquez...

The guy that Lou Piniella would only refer to as “the Rule V kid” when he played for the M’s in 2001?

Guess he wanted something more useful than just a pair of legs off the bench.

by egreenlaw9 on Apr 16, 2010 4:57 PM PDT reply actions  

It was.

Ramon Vasquez was drafted by the M’s in the 27th round of the ’95 draft, called up in ’01, and then traded to the Padres as part of the Ben Davis deal. So, right year, wrong player.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Apr 16, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

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