In Want of a LOOGY?
It's early, but it's an off day and there's little to talk about Mariner-related so here's this. The Mariners are carrying seven relievers and all of them throw with their right-hand. Well, I guess they can throw with either hand, but you get my drift. Some people have expressed thoughts that the bullpen should probably contain a southpaw at some point. Instead of just blindly advancing talking points, why not we look at the data to date and see how they have done as a group?
Collectively, our relievers have thrown 238 pitches to 59 left-handed or switch-hitting batters. 105 (44%) have been called a ball, which is bad. Just 11 (5%) have generated a swing and a miss, also bad. They've issued 11 walks to just eight strikeouts. They've induced only 10 ground balls against 13 fly balls and a whopping 15 line drives.
Compare that to when facing right-handed batters where the pen has thrown 265 pitches to 72 batters. There, only 36% of pitches thrown have ended up being called as a ball and their swinging strike rate is more than double what it is against left-handers at over 12%. As far as batted balls go, 19 ground balls and six pop ups to 15 fly balls and 13 line drives allowed is by no means pretty, but is a damn sight better. They've also struck out 14 against just four net walks.
It's far too early to be making any kind of rash judgments. Not only are the sample sizes way small with just 59 batters faced but, we're also really skewed by having played one team 70% of the time and one other team the remaining 30%. Brandon League and Kanekoa Texeira have thus far been the worst of the relievers against opposite-handed batters and there's reason to believe that both will eventually be assets against those hitters based on their pitch types. Still, it's worth watching as the season progresses. If these trends continue, then the Mariners will need a good lefty neutralizing option out of the bullpen, but the emphasis should be placed more highly on good rather than on lefty.
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He thinks we should get rid of Kanekoa Texeira
by seattlebruin on Apr 15, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
And he expressed it with a clever (?) pun.
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by killer_ewok18 on Apr 15, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Replace clever pun with forced rhyme and you're spot on.
by Mariner John on Apr 15, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
It works here in NY/NJ...
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Based on your information
and common sense it would seem logical to carry a lefty.
by MarinerFaninAZ on Apr 15, 2010 10:39 PM PDT reply actions
Try reading the post again.
You got slurved!
by Slurvey on Apr 15, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Does it make any difference
that since there aren’t any really scary left handed hitters in the West, that our need is less than a team in another division?
Not that we don’t need one, and with a 7 man bullpen I think we could manage to carry one. Just not Garrett Olson.
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French is the obvious one, but you're way better off just letting him develop in Tacoma
the problem with Vargas is that he’s the best one, but since he’s a changeup guy rather than a breaking ball guy, he’s not as effective against lefties as the others.
Oh well, League and Kelley should be just fine once they get it turned around
by seattlebruin on Apr 15, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
League did give up those two deep fly balls
but he had crazy movement, so I’m not worried.
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by killer_ewok18 on Apr 15, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I think if you can find a reliable left-hander who can also not suck against right-handed hitters, great
But I don’t think it’s entirely necessary. As you said, League and Texeira should be able to get lefties out. Kelley is effective as well.
On the other hand, I’m okay with replacing Sean White.
Eh, this is a kind of simplistic summation but
While a LOOGY wouldn’t be a bad thing for the team if these numbers continue, they’re probably not going to see an almost equal distribution between righties and lefties faced as the year goes on like they have so far. The bad results to lefties should be minimalized when we face a more normal distribution of hitters who are predominantly right handed and some regression happens with our relievers who haven’t posted huge splits in the past.
This is a good point as well.
When Lee and Bedard come back the rotation is going to feature between 3 and 4 left-handed starters, which means teams will start stacking more right-handers in the lineups
We're gonna be screwed against the Phillies in the World Series.
by Nojf33 on Apr 16, 2010 2:34 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I don't think so
Cliff Lee will just catch everything behind his back again.
by el generico on Apr 16, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
What the Mariners need is a SHUTDOWN reliever.
I don’t care if gets the damn ball up there with his feet as long as the hitters can’t hit it.
If they did go with a true LOOGY
..in other words, a lefty who really was only good enough to face left handed batters, then they would have to fix the rest of the roster to make some room.
They already think they need 7 relievers that can go one inning or more. And they only have 1 extra outfielder and 1 extra infielder now.
I really can't see them going with a LOOGY at all.
Wak seems to put guys in for a full 3 outs at a time. If he had a LOOGY, would he use him for just the one out? Or would he try get get a full side out of him?

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