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Anyone didn't see the statement I made couple minutes ago, here we go.

I take my words back to boo Bradley. I hereby declare that I will never boo Bradley ever again. As a consequence of violation of the statement, I will let Robert rape my favorite parent.

Yankee Hater.

by Ef the yankees on Apr 13, 2010 9:47 PM PDT reply actions  

From booing Bradley*

I can ever write right.

Yankee Hater.

by Ef the yankees on Apr 13, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still hate you and find you stupid

Especially since you have such little conviction that your opinion does a complete reversal with one home run

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Apr 13, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions   6 recs

I am stupid, what can I say.

I am also very forgetful. Hate me as much as you want.

Yankee Hater.

by Ef the yankees on Apr 13, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your decision not to boo Milton Bradley is as arbitrary as your decision to boo him

Which tells me you didn’t really hate Milton Bradley in the first place, so why boo him?

That was stupid so I still hate you and hope you literally run into Milton at Safeway during the offseason and he responds in kind.

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Apr 13, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Fister's performance

Can someone with more baseball smarts than me tell me if he was as awesome as he looked?

Is this just what he looks like when he doesn’t walk anyone? It seemed like quite the performance.

by Snuffleupagus on Apr 13, 2010 9:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes, he pitched awesome

He threw a lot of strikes and made good use of a pitcher friendly park.

He did hang a few changeups, but it looks like for the most part he had the hitters fooled.

by Allen Wu on Apr 13, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was doing pretty good.

Spotted everything well. I’m not sure how much of that is “Oakland Sucks”, but it’s still something.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 13, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is what he looks like when he commands his curve

has a good change up and faces a meh lineup at Safeco. Which is to say, you can expect him to do this several times in a season, but don’t count on it any given night. He can have everything going for him but if he’s up against one of the ALE teams he’ll still get lit up.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 14, 2010 6:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily.

He did pretty much shut out the Yankees last season.

Also a die-hard Hawks fan.

by Hopefulmsfan on Apr 14, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

"pretty much shut out"

is a weird way to say 3 runs allowed

And then he got lit up by them a couple of weeks later. I remember vividly, I was there with one of my Yankee fan friends.

Mariners/D Broncos/BSU Broncos fan in Seattle

by appleshampoo on Apr 14, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The A's offense sucks (yes, I know I'm a buzzkill) but Fister pitched well.

He threw strikes and let the defense and ballpark help him, which is exactly how he’ll find success.

by Jeff Nye on Apr 13, 2010 9:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh my God.

This is the best thing that’s ever happened.

by E-Lizz on Apr 13, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

If ever there were a smile with an implicit "fuck all the haters"

that’s it.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Apr 13, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fucking perfect.

That just made my night.

Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.

by the other side on Apr 13, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is beautiful.

I'd sleep at the Internet, but I've found servers don't make for good pillows.

by thehemogoblin on Apr 13, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beautiful.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Apr 13, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow...this is blowing my mind!

Only dull people are brilliant at breakfast.

by Rich Langford on Apr 13, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is the look he gets on his face

Right before he beats the shit out of you. I like it.

by E-Lizz on Apr 13, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I may actually have nightmares because of this...

It’s like the look Chuck Norris gives you before a roundhouse to the face…

by Belom3 on Apr 13, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks Jeff.

Just kidding. Way to go Matthew, via Don275!!!

Karma police, arrest this man.

by wyte_lightning on Apr 13, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Considering how much credit Jeff gets for Matthew's work

I see nothing wrong with Matthew receiving all these recs.

by katal on Apr 13, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

A ballsier manager...

…would have put Byrnes in the field for the 9th inning.

by AnotherAaron on Apr 13, 2010 9:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Didn't he run for Sweeney?

I thought you couldn’t put a DH into the field.

by themanleyman on Apr 13, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can

but lose the DH for the rest of the game.

by AnotherAaron on Apr 13, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah good times.

2010 Safeco Field Record: 0-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Apr 13, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see

hence the ‘ballsiness’ of the move

by Snuffleupagus on Apr 13, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

But with Aardsma as your closer, it isn’t a stretch to think that he could walk two guys and let one hit it out, which puts you in a tight spot. Good call Wak!

by themanleyman on Apr 13, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

how would that have worked?

I was thinking about that when he pitch ran. Byrnes pitch ran for the DH. Does that prevent him from going into the field? If it doesn’t prevent him from playing the field, then could Bradley have been moved to DH?

by Snuffleupagus on Apr 13, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I may be wrong, but if he ran for the DH, he stays at DH. You can't switch a fielder and DH.

Putting Byrnes in the field would have caused us to lose the DH for the rest of the game. AKA The bottom of the 9th.

by Belom3 on Apr 13, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone put an Ms hat on that.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Apr 13, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm glad you can see past the fact that I suck at operating LL

to realize that that was supposed to be in the Milton Bradley pic subthread.

by Jeff Nye on Apr 13, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fister's incredible outing.

Milton’s home run. Milton’s creepy postgame smile. Fister trying to high five Milton. Great Fister/Milton night.

by E-Lizz on Apr 13, 2010 10:08 PM PDT reply actions  

He's a swell guy.

Listening to him talk almost convinces you to like him. Until you remember how he plays the game of baseball.

by harkening on Apr 13, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd sooner interview Ichiro's dog than Robo Rob.

Ichiro’s dog would at least have some insight.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Apr 13, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Roughly the equivalent of, "stay, stay"

Ikkyu informs both Ichiro’s contract situation and his baserunning (perhaps)

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Apr 13, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stay, but only when people are looking.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Apr 13, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ikkyu is apparently quite instrumental to Ichiro's success.

He thanks him along with Yumiko (the wife) for “support.” I remember him saying “I’d like to thank my wife, Yumiko, and my dog…” after the 262-hit season. It made me laugh.

But never underestimate Ikkyu’s power.

by harkening on Apr 13, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember they asked him how important his hitting streak was or something

He said something like “It is important… I should have invited my wife Yumiko and my dog Ikkyu to see me hit. I guess that shows you how important it is to me.”

by E-Lizz on Apr 13, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where did Robo Rob come from?

Wouldn’t a robot catcher presumably be able to catch?

by Mariner John on Apr 13, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

All his surgeries.

Six million dollar man reference and all that.

Personally, I’d like to call him Darth Rob. He’s more machine now than man, twisted and talentless.

by harkening on Apr 13, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

If anybody is a Sith, it's Bradley.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Apr 13, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bradley is too awesome to be a Sith.

Unless it’s like Darth Revan, prodigal knight. So badass that he can swing both ways.

by harkening on Apr 13, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rob Johnson:

Taking the catch out of catcher

by gabe713 on Apr 14, 2010 4:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I should be writing the paper I have due tomorrow.

Instead I just watched the video on the Mariners site of the Bradley home run, about ten times. I watched it again just after typing that out and am resisting the urge to watch it yet another time.

So many good things. The drive-by high-five of Brumley as he passed, the strange clap in the air before he high-fived Lopez, the way Fister is just kind of hanging there, waiting to be acknowledged, while Mike Sweeney, capitalizing on Bradley’s own momentary hesitation, grabs him off-center and hits him in the face with his bicep. Everything about it. Wonderful.

And Matthew’s gif of Bradley smiling in the postgame? Icing on the cake.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Apr 13, 2010 10:15 PM PDT reply actions  

I did the same exact thing

Glorious offensive nectar…it’s so much sweeter when you haven’t tasted it regularly.

by Omerta on Apr 14, 2010 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hell of a game to be at.

Doug Fister looked really, really good. He gave up a few deep fly balls, but hey, I guess you might as well utilize your environment. Great command, even struck out a few. Just a surprisingly awesome job.

My Mariners blog SodoMojo, My Twitter Feed

by Griffin Cooper on Apr 13, 2010 10:20 PM PDT reply actions  

It's Doug Fister.

Deep fly balls are part of the deal, you just have to hope most of them stay in the yard

by seattlebruin on Apr 13, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am such a 13 year old...

because that statement made me laugh.

by Belom3 on Apr 13, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

.

Dr. Elliot Reid: [back in Free Clinic] All right, now repeat after me…
Mr. Keck: [to Turk] “You can’t decide for me, that’s not your duty.”
Dr. Elliot Reid: And are they both trying not to laugh at the word “duty”?
Mr. Keck: [J.D. and Turk try to hold their giggles back]

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Apr 13, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Woo Fisty!

2010 Safeco Field Record: 0-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Apr 13, 2010 10:21 PM PDT reply actions  

But if you type "uss" into Google...

… the first auto-complete is “uss mariner.”

by srm07 on Apr 13, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weird

LL gets more comments per post…

by eflegen on Apr 13, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only three of our commenters are sexy, though.

Jeff, Matthew and Jon.

Says so right at the bottom of the page.

by harkening on Apr 13, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

AWWW YEAH

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Apr 13, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions   5 recs

WHY

A Mariners fan in Seattle

by Coach Owens on Apr 13, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

You've got those chambered and ready to go, huh?

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Apr 13, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Welcome to LL!

There’s more where that came from.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Apr 13, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I've noticed over the last several months.

This one, though…I dunno, it’s just abstract enough to not be disturbing, and having it identified would take away the mystery.

by harkening on Apr 13, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

People swarm Dave on Fangraphs far more often than they swarm Matthew.

It’s as if he’s the only Mariner blogger there, given the apparent perception of ridiculous homerism.

by harkening on Apr 13, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure USSM has a readership that is 2 or 3 times LL's.

So it makes sense he’d get more searches.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 13, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

The great silent majority....

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Apr 13, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, they just should be silent.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Apr 13, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Point being a portion of the “silent majority” of readers at USSM and LL are probably silent because of some underlying baseball bias, or perhaps disdain for the sabermetrically inclined.

by harkening on Apr 13, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got that, I'm just being snarky.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Apr 13, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

But if varies from person to person, right?

Doesn’t Google have a algorithm which would pull up the most likely searches for you? Like, since you’ve Googled “Lookout Landing” before, its programing says "Well, chances are good when he types ‘loo…’ he wants ‘lookout landing’.

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Apr 14, 2010 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

So when is Jeff going to change the tagline (not sure what to call it)

of the site to “Milton is ours and you can’t have him.”?

A Mariners fan in Seattle

by Coach Owens on Apr 13, 2010 11:04 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Making a Milton out of a molehill.

?

I'd sleep at the Internet, but I've found servers don't make for good pillows.

by thehemogoblin on Apr 13, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

So I was at the game and early on a beer vendor walked around and said "I've got bottles, you know, in case you want to send a message to Milton Bradley!"

Fuck that guy.

Milton Bradley is like sex with a beautiful woman. Rob Johnson is like being raped by an evil wookie.

by SethGrandpa on Apr 13, 2010 11:24 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Immediately.

The M’s would jump all over this too. This shouldn’t stand in our park.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Apr 14, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

You should still report it

Just tell them what section you were sitting in and at what time and they can probably figure out who it was.

by OlSalty on Apr 14, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just don't get it.

Common sense would make you go, “Oh, this guy has been harassed and had problems in other cities, let’s try and support him and maybe things will be different.” Instead, it’s “Oh this guy gets harassed and becomes a problem everywhere, lets heckle him.”

Also a die-hard Hawks fan.

by Hopefulmsfan on Apr 14, 2010 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not a poor choice!

Figgins makes it to 3rd like 95% of the time there.

by Matthew on Apr 13, 2010 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Figgins got Doillied on that play.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Apr 13, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just wanted a run, dammit.

But yeah, it took a stunning throw to nail him, and I guess I should defer to Ichiro and Figgins on the basepaths. They’re probably better at this than I am.

But wouldn’t he have made it anyway if the ball had gotten away from Suzuki? Seemed like he jumped earlier than he needed to.

by Teej on Apr 13, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Getting to third would have been a big boost to getting a run scored

and it was more about the chance that anyone could catch that and not fall on his ass

by Matthew on Apr 13, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

even with the remarkable stop it took a perfect throw to get Figgins. I haven’t seen Suzuki play that much, but I guess the average AL catcher air mails the ball half the time after making a stop like that, in which case, score.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 14, 2010 6:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's a surprisingly good player, in my opinion.

He does get overlooked because he has played with a generally sub-par team over his career, but I really like his skill set. His athleticism behind the plate really gets my attention (and gets Figgins at third too, apparently, even though I missed that because I was working).

I'd sleep at the Internet, but I've found servers don't make for good pillows.

by thehemogoblin on Apr 13, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Suzuki's 2008 and 2009 were worth 2.7 and 2.8 WAR respectively.

In short, he produces at about the same level Kenji did before getting raped of his job by Rob fucking Johnson. In other words, best Mariners catcher of all time. I am a fan of Kurt Suzuki. Except he’s an A. Fuck that shit.

by harkening on Apr 13, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

In 2009, Kenji was worth 0.9 WAR in 258 PA.

Over the stretch of a full season, this works out to about 1.9 WAR. This is with inconsistent playing time and despite the nagging injuries that allowed Johnson to get playing time in the first place.

Was Kenji ever going to be 2006 good again? Probably not. But he was far better in 2009 than a lot of people seem to realize, and certainly far superior to Rob Johnson.

by harkening on Apr 14, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

No.

But a league average catcher (2.0 WAR) would be valuable. That’s less than a full win off his ‘06 and ’07 seasons, and I’m willing to bet the injuries had something to do with it. I don’t think Kenji dropped off the cliff you seem to be implying by saying he “was not producing at nearly that level” (emphasis added for obvious reasons).

by harkening on Apr 14, 2010 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

A full catcher season is shorter than other position players

I’d say he was on pace for 1.5

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 14, 2010 6:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

In '07 and '06, Kenji had 210 and 242 PA's respectively in 142 and 147 starts.

In other words, a full season is about twice the 258 PA’s. He played 71 games in ‘09 (to Rob Johnson’s 80—he only put up 0.3 WAR >=( ). Multiply either his PA’s by two or his starts by two and you get up to his actual full season length. “Full season for catchers” is actually pretty short given the standards Joh set.

by harkening on Apr 14, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay

but Joh was used way, way more than normal catchers and it seemed to take its toll. 120 games is a pretty standard catcher season.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 14, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Geoff Baker

Link

Bradley was treated to a post-game beer shower, customary for Mariners players who were here last season. Not something Bradley is associated with all that often.

This one was about as festive as it gets, from what I’m told. An icy bath that didn’t stop.

Bradley is a serious guy. A player as intense as they come. But he told us on the weekend how much he appreciated being here, with this team, and I know, despite his stoic demeanor afterwards, that he had to enjoy what happened post-game tonight.

“We have fun every day,‘’ Bradley said. "That’s the one thing that makes it easy to come here every day. Guys are great. Top-to-bottom, that’s a part of this organization. And that’s something that I really can’t say I’ve had my entire career. I just feel like I’m in such a better place.’’

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Apr 14, 2010 12:08 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Sounds hot

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 14, 2010 6:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fantastic.

I don’t know which I’m happier about, Bradley saying that or Snell smiling constantly. I could stand them both producing more though.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Apr 14, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

This .gifs is an example of what it was like between me and one of my roommates for a while.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Apr 14, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

He had to explain the expectation when he put his hand out like that.

Being white, I interpreted it as a handshake. I was mistaken.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Apr 14, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm learning!

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Apr 14, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

What's funny is

Felix was way more excited, outwardly, about the homer than Fister was. Fister just looked a little less long in the face.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 14, 2010 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would like to see

Fister High Fiving Milton after saving his win in the bottom of the 8th, next to Felix hugging Gutz for saving his win in the bottom of the 9th. (In case anyone was curious about what I would like to see).

by Attractive Nuisance on Apr 14, 2010 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love how he just gives up after the second attempt.

Lazy good for nothing bum.

A Mariners fan in Seattle

by Coach Owens on Apr 14, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

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