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That Was/This Is Miserable

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I was intending to write something up about the home opener. However, I didn't get back to Portland until 1, and even having been at the Safe to watch them firsthand, the Mariners didn't really give me anything to write about. So here we are. Before the game, FSN ran a poll asking fans what they were most excited about in the afternoon. 45% said "Randy Johnson's first pitch." 21% said "the game." I made a crack about the results when I saw them, but it turns out the people were right. Wisdom Of Crowds, I guess.

It's one thing to get owned by Brett Anderson, but when you're getting two-hit at home by Justin Duchscherer, that's when things get uncomfortable. All game long there were statements being made about how awful this team looks, and while any team would look awful going 2-6, and while the Mariners are better than this, there's no questioning that they have a certain feel about them when they get in these slumps. Maybe it's the same feel that any team gets when it sucks, but when this team's at the plate, there's a feeling of hopelessness, and when this team's in the field, there's an air of inevitability, especially when the other guys get runners on. The only thing more predictable than the M's stranding Franklin Gutierrez in the fourth was Gabe Gross not stranding his two runners in the seventh. Randy's pitch and flashy infield defense aside, that was a miserable game, and what's worse is that it blended in so well with all the others.

Do we panic? You don't need me to tell you that it's still early, that it's only been eight games. Of course the team isn't this bad. Nobody's hitting their averages, and even if Griffey "looks finished," you can't dogpile on him, because he's just one of a number of guys not doing what's expected. Things will even out, and as they do, the team will score more runs. Of that there's no question.

Consider what you think about the Angels. The Angels are 2-5, have a worse run differential than we do, and are well on their way to their sixth loss right now as they've blown some glorious run-scoring situations in New York. A lot of Angels fans are probably freaking out, but you expect them to get a lot better, as you should. The Angels are a pretty good team, and the Mariners are a pretty good team, and pretty good teams don't lose 75% of their games.

Here's the problem, though - at the start of the year, we told you time and time again that the West would be a tight division, and now that we're about a week into the year, the M's are four games out of first place. Meaning they need to be that much better over the remaining 154 if they want to make the playoffs. A four-game deficit over five and a half months can seem like a lot or a little depending on how you look at it, but it's a clear disadvantage. Our postseason odds might be half what they were last weekend. Half! It's both a surmountable deficit, and a significant one.

So the Mariners need to shape up, and they need to shape up soon, because no matter how long the baseball season may be, a bad start can torpedo a team before it so much as moves off the shore. Tonight would be a good time to start. A win tonight pulls the M's a game closer. A win tomorrow draws them closer still. It's too early to care about the games back, but it's also never too early to care about the games back, because games back mean everything. The M's can't afford to fall many more games back. They can't afford it, because they aren't good enough to crawl out of a big April hole.

The Mariners are a talented team, and from this point forward, I expect them to play like it. And they better. There is no panic threshold, no single game on which everything rests. Every additional loss, however, makes things just a little more bleak, and it's too early for bleak. It's April 13th. So with that in mind, I would like no more of this poor performance, no more of this losing. No more of it, indeed.

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The game was sure depressing to be at after the pre-game festivities.

It’s only made worse by everyone in my section looking at me funny when I started yelling about how Rob Johnson sucks as they heckle Bradley. I hope tonight is better. I didn’t come this far to see two shit games.

by SethGrandpa on Apr 13, 2010 12:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I like how they introduced Bradley first before the game and used fireworks to cover up any potential fan response

Walking out of the stadium, I eavesdropped on some people asking if this was going to be the worst sports year in Seattle history. Obviously stupid, but you can sense that people are already getting fed up with this team.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 13, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Come on, guys; let's think positive!

Believe big! I’m not going to give up on our M’s just yet, and neither should any of you.

by katherinekiyoko on Apr 13, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody's giving up

Literally nobody. But everybody is more nervous than they were eight days ago.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 13, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually ...

… I’m not really a fairweather fan, but I’ve read this book before. What makes it worse is that the braintrust have staked their collective reputation on a couple of decisions that do not look wise and they seem to have little recognition of the notion of sunk costs.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Apr 13, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 out of 3

Seem pretty easy to rectify and expecting them to make major roster decisions within the first 10 games strikes me as a might hasty. The FO has staked their reputation on the Lee trade, Guti trade and Felix extension. All of which are things I think we’re pretty happy about yes?

by TheBishop on Apr 13, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd say it was the exact opposite

the braintrust has hardly staked their entire reputations on this, and seem stunningly aware of what sunk costs are and how to trade them for Milton Bradley

by seattlebruin on Apr 13, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess that's a good way to put it...

but we could easily look at this as the low point of the season. Instead of our July slump, we’re getting it out of the way early and soon Lee will be pitching and everything will be better.

by katherinekiyoko on Apr 13, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn it!

You mean were allowed more than one slump a year?

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by JLProck on Apr 13, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our true talent level still as an 83-86 win team, but we can only be expected to play at that level for the remaining 154 games.

So going 2-6 does hurt, and it’s the gambler’s fallacy to think that some force will even all these early losses out.

by Decatur on Apr 13, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could anything really beat 2008 for Seattle sports?

The mariners sucked, the seahawks sucked, the sonics….left, and the college teams where pretty terrible as well.

Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.

by the other side on Apr 13, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Storm did something!

"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot

by beastwarking on Apr 13, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've had season tickets since their inception.

They’re pretty good

"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot

by beastwarking on Apr 13, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

A quick and dirty calculation tells me that the 2-6 start has cost the team about two games from the projected total

That is, if they are an 85 win true talent team and play that way (.525) for the rest of the season, then they’ll finish with 83 wins. If they were an 83 win team, they should finish at .500. And so on.

I like thinking of things this way because it puts it into perspective. None of our players have gotten worse because of these eight games, and the talent on the team remains, so we shoudln’t panic. On the other hand, the games do count and they’re going to have to play that much better, or luckier, to get to the top of the division.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 13, 2010 12:40 PM PDT reply actions  

I completely understand the concept of gambler's fallacy

But teams naturally go through stretches of hot and cold streaks.

This is undoubtedly colder then Pluto.

by cwel87 on Apr 13, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nevertheless, whatever your projection for the M's was

you should dock it two games.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 13, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good thing I projected them as a 100 win team

This slow start will just help the drama of the eventual movie made about this 2010 season.

by Snuffleupagus on Apr 13, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Say the Mariners play .714 ball for the rest of April after this miserable opening.

This means that at the end of the month, we’ll have a 13-10 record.

You still project them as a true talent level 85 win team (.525). For the remaining 139 games, then, you say 139*.525=72.975+13=85.975 wins, so call them an 86 win team. Your true talent level projection has them gaining a win on the back of the record they’ve already built.

by harkening on Apr 13, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think this is my favorite stat of the year so far

either that or Franklin Gutierrez being on pace to be a 14.5 WAR player if you use +/- as his actual defensive numbers

by seattlebruin on Apr 13, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding?

Not while Torii Hunter is alive. I mean we all know he’s the superior fielder.

Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.

by the other side on Apr 13, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

How can that be...?

He’s at least hit one home run. Does a home run not count as a ball in play?

by Matt Erickson on Apr 13, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hm, interesting.

Good to know. Is it not considered a ball in play because (at least in theory) a fielder cannot possibly make a play on it?

by Matt Erickson on Apr 13, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, that makes sense.

I’m thinking about the purpose of the statistic from the batter’s perspective. One would want to know a batter’s BABIP to know how lucky (or skilled) he is at putting a ball where fielders could reach the ball but don’t. In contradistinction to that, one would want to know a team/pitcher’s BABIP to know how effective that pitcher/team is at putting balls where they can be reached/reaching balls that can be reached. So I guess knowing how could that player is at putting balls where they can’t be reached, or how bad that pitcher/team is at keeping balls where they can be reached/reaching balls that can be reached wouldn’t matter for this statistic. Wow, I guess that was kind of obvious, but apparently not for me. I had to work that one out for a bit.

So what about a ball that bounced off an outfielder’s glove (or head—hello, Jose Canseco) and over the fence? In theory, at least, a fielder could possibly have made a play on that ball.

by Matt Erickson on Apr 13, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would think that would be something along the lines of

an extremely rare anomaly. How many batters have gotten a home run like that in their careers? Have any had it happen twice?

by TheBishop on Apr 13, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can only think of two.

Jose Canseco and when Jason Michaels had the ball in his glove about 5-6 feet from the wall and in some weird nonsense he flipped it up over the wall.

Lets call in an anomaly.

by PShwa on Apr 13, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

That has happened one time in the history of baseball

I think we can call it negligible against the millions of other batted balls in play

by seattlebruin on Apr 13, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

They'd be classified as HR and therefore not in play

Clearly this is wrong but it happens so infrequently that nobody would care too much

by Graham MacAree on Apr 13, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

And that's exactly what I was guessing.

Yay for thinking about baseball numbers… now back to bending over and letting calc have its way with my sphincter.

by Matt Erickson on Apr 13, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh

I believe you, just that it seems counterintutive to exclude home runs from the stat. I assumed a stat measuring “balls in play” would include all in-play batted balls hit between the white lines. If a ball goes over the fence, all the better.

by lemonverbena on Apr 13, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps an easier way to think of it would be

“balls in play that can reasonably be defended against” or something like that.

by TheBishop on Apr 13, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you include homers, it's just batting average, and we already have that stat.

By removing homers, we can at least get closer to understanding how much a hitter/pitcher has been helped/hurt by defense and luck.

Removing homers also helps in evaluating a team’s defensive efficiency. If you add homers, defenders who play behind homer-prone pitchers are unfairly penalized.

I understand what you’re saying, but we already know how many homers a guy has hit. What we’re trying to do with BABIP isn’t to measure a player’s skill, but to gauge if he’s been unlucky or not. Include homers, and you’re favoring guys who hit more homers.

Someone can explain this better than I can, but what I’m saying is we already have stats to reward a guy for hitting homers. BABIP is a supplemental number that we use to learn a little more.

by Teej on Apr 13, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

BABIP is not really designed to measure a hitter's skill though

I have always viewed it more as a measurement of a hitter’s luck, and/or a measurement of the defense and how it affects a pitcher/hitter

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by tootthekazoo on Apr 13, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was sitting in the left field stands and there were quite a few fans down on Milton after he flubbed that grounder.

Of course, these were the same fans that cheered like hell when he almost through that guy out at home plate. Go figure that they cheer good plays and jeer bad ones.

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by JLProck on Apr 13, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same

They seemed to grow weary of him as the game proceeded steadily down the crapper.

by Omerta on Apr 13, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great write-up

I agree… its the old cliche, divisions aren’t won in April, but they can be lost. If we get on a roll and miss the playoffs by a few games, we’re all going to be looking back to the first week of the season thinking “Damn, if only we had played well THEN”. I don’t want that to happen. Things need to turn around quick.

by E-Lizz on Apr 13, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Are we really banged up? We're missing one key player.

Can’t really use Bedard since we knew he was going to be out for a few months

by Rudy4three on Apr 13, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not helping and we'll be a better team when he returns

also, with Hannahan out, you cannot pinch-hit for Jack Wilson, which is bad

by seattlebruin on Apr 13, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see what you're saying.

In the long run though what does his contribution really equal? 1 win if he plays really well?

Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.

by the other side on Apr 13, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that what it really comes down to.

We have a weird amount of flexibility at some positions and then none at others. I think Hannahan would probably help this some. When is he supposed to come back anyway?

Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.

by the other side on Apr 13, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Once again, I'm having a hard time recalling a situation this year

where Hannahan would have gotten a start, or gone into a game as a defensive replacement and made an impact.

I’m also having a hard time recalling a situation where Jack Wilson has had to bat in a situation that we could have used a pinch hitter. Moreover, the bench bats are so terrible, I have a hard time believing Wak would have ever seriously considered pinch hitting for Wilson.

Hannahan has value in that he can spell Wilson when he gets banged up for a few days. Other than that, I fail to see how he’s considered a key member of this team.

by Rudy4three on Apr 13, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

A's fan here

Hannahan was hard to watch in an Oakland Uniform. Unless Alan Cockrell has worked a miracle, I’d imagine his impact would be minimal.

by hishnik on Apr 13, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

And actually has a little offensive upside!

No, Jack Hannahan isn’t a savior. But he’s not terrible either, and he’s a good defensive player, which is a pretty huge plus

by seattlebruin on Apr 13, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to argue that having Hannahan would help...

But after the PH penalty, is Tui instead of Wilson enough of an offensive upgrade to overcome the defensive impact from going Wilson to Hannahan?

by lailaihei on Apr 13, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tui wouldn't even be the guy pinch hitting, he's not on

this team if Hannahan is.

So it’s Mike Sweeney or Griffey as your PH.

by Rudy4three on Apr 13, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pinch-hitting penalty negates virtually any difference.

With Griffey, you get a little boost as long as it’s against a RHP, but it’s like 5-10 wOBA points difference, which is 3 runs over the course of a season or .005 runs over one PA.
The difference between Wilson and Hannahan is about .01 runs over one inning.

So it’s a downgrade even then.

by lailaihei on Apr 13, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

What about that game in Oakland where Wilson struck out with the bases loaded?

If Hannahan was healthy, Wak could have used a pinch hitter there. And I don’t think that was the only situation.

by I Lick Squirrels on Apr 13, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's the only situation I recall. And that was in like the sixth

inning. Wak rarely pinch hits, so I’m not going to assume he would have been willing to make a switch there.

Plus, once again, who is pinch hitting, our bench bats stink and you have to factor in the PH penalty

by Rudy4three on Apr 13, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

So was Davis out at the plate?

I’m guessing the right call was made but it looked close from far away.

by Mariner John on Apr 13, 2010 12:56 PM PDT reply actions  

He looked safe on the replays I saw.

It was a great throw, pretty bad tag. It was Davis though and he is fucking fast.

Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.

by the other side on Apr 13, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like how Rob Johnson has played the catcher position long enough to make a professional team as one

And yet he still has no concept of how to block home plate.

Actually, no, I don’t like it.

by cwel87 on Apr 13, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had the benefit of a few replays.

Davis made a great hook slide and Johnson whiffed on the tag. I’m not sure Rob even had a chance, to be honest.

by abender20 on Apr 13, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think so. Bradley's throw was awesome, but the last hop slowed it down quite a bit.

That slight delay gave Davis the advantage and his slide kept his body well away from the tag.

by abender20 on Apr 13, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good to know.

It happened lighting quick from the upper deck. The one at first was fucking obvious though. That stupid mother fucker didn’t have an angle but because he’s a god damn umpire he can’t appeal or use replay.

by TheBishop on Apr 13, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have a chance if you block the plate.

It’s simple as that. Am I saying he would have made the play? No, but he’d have had a chance.

by PShwa on Apr 13, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hard to fault anyone for that, really.

You’re going to have a hard time gunning down Davis on a ball that deep.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 13, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alright, good to know.

I was pretty far away and of course couldn’t see a replay so I was just curious.

by Mariner John on Apr 13, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was shocked at the tepid response for Randy Johnson.

There were probably ~5 people in my section standing and cheering, the rest were on their butts.

by waldo rojas on Apr 13, 2010 12:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah I was expecting a Griffey-esque homecoming reaction.

People cheered but it wasn’t as deafening as I had built it up to in my mind leading up to the game.

by Omerta on Apr 13, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

He got huge applause when he was back here last year

and you have to remember that some people (stupidly) have negative feelings towards him because of the way both side parted ways

by Poochie on Apr 13, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Randy got huge applause (as I recall) when he came back with the D-Backs in the first week Safeco was open

And got a good response when he started the 2001 All-Star game. Not like he’s never been back.

by lemonverbena on Apr 13, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

People were surprised?

We called that before the game. Seemed very typical of how this team likes to milk the entire 1995 roster for all they are worth.

by Sec 108 on Apr 13, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know what you mean, I thought the same thing.

But I think it’s just due to the applause for Randy finally dying down a bit in anticipation for the pitch. Then the Dan Wilson announcement was made and it spiked again.

I thought the reception was fine, everyone was standing and cheering in my section (328).

by ralphie81 on Apr 13, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was about 40 rows up around the Home Plate/dugout section.

The ovation was loud and everyone was on their feet.

Randy took a moment to stand by himself out in the mound and wave to all the people. The ovation died a little at that point. So when Wilson came out and everyone realized that it wouldn’t be … I don’t know Rob Johnson or Jesus Colome catching the first pitch, then the crowd went wild. The new ovation wasn’t just about Wilson, it was because the old team was back together again.

by mark sobba on Apr 13, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can hear the interview now.

RJ: I was expecting some high heat, but he threw that little looper. How do you catch something like that? The guys crafty!

by mark sobba on Apr 13, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Opening day crowd can be a little different.

Even so, I know I’m not the type of fan that likes to hoot and holler. The most you’ll get out of me is some standing and clapping and that’s about it.

by Janic on Apr 13, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least I won't contract diabetes anytime soon.

And yes, I know that it takes more than just sugar to trigger it.

by Mariner John on Apr 13, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks Captain Obvious...I hadn't noticed this fact.

You can take your observations and…sorry, I’m a little cranky.

Only dull people are brilliant at breakfast.

by Rich Langford on Apr 13, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet you are.

Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.

by the other side on Apr 13, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure of the exact moment the season went down the crapper.

Game 2, pulling Shawn Kelley after only 3 batters faced and 18 pitches thrown.

by Kermit. on Apr 13, 2010 1:51 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

You make it seem like this is football

and loosing the second game in a tight division against a rival spells doom for us all

"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot

by beastwarking on Apr 13, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, they should fire one of the coaches.

Seems like the usual thing to do in these situations.

by Kermit. on Apr 13, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Shouldn't we go after the one everyone hates?

"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot

by beastwarking on Apr 13, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

In all honesty I was expecting someone to reply with Mike Sweeney again.

"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot

by beastwarking on Apr 13, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm really not too concerned yet, but

I am pretty annoyed with our pitching. I know our offence is not great, but we knew that long before the season started. Our pitching, on other hand, has been seriously troublesome. Maybe they did not get enough work in during spring training, maybe they just have not found their grove, whatever it is they really need to get their shit together.

Fuck the Angels

by InSpokane on Apr 13, 2010 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

This team has been flat out not fun to watch, that's the worst part for me.

I hope Lee and Bedard coming back can remedy that, and we start hitting more dingers.

by lailaihei on Apr 13, 2010 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

This team has been annoying the fans.

They’re supposed to be annoying the other teams!

by ThundaPC on Apr 13, 2010 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

The "Believe Big" marketing campaign is perhaps the worst slogan they could have chosen

I hate it so much. This team has a small, rapidly decreasing chance of making the playoffs, nothing bigger than that. Marketing sucks.

Milton Bradley apologist

by sanford_and_son on Apr 13, 2010 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Strongly agree

I really think they should have gone with something like ‘the future is here’ or something.

Something that would have accented the fact that Guti and Felix are signed to long term contract. No matter what happens this season, as we build to the future we can be happy that two of our best players are here long-term.

that seems like a much better marketing plan to get people here now and in coming years.

by Snuffleupagus on Apr 13, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Where the future meets the present"?

Obvious understanding is the Felix/Guti point to which you alluded. Perhaps more of a veiled reference to the FO’s practice of maximizing inefficiencies in the market, thus setting trends for the future (defense…?).

by Matt Erickson on Apr 13, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ever since the Mets started the whole "Your Season Has Come" slogan

I’ve been adamantly against slogans. I can’t remember if that was 2006 or 2007, but lets just say after the 2007 collapse, there was really no reason to have a slogan in Flushing. I hate the fact that Mariners even have one

by E-Lizz on Apr 13, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

2010 Seattle Mariners: This team has a small, rapidly decreasing chance of making the playoffs

Hm. Don’t think that one’s going to drive ticket sales.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Apr 13, 2010 2:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I really want to panic, but the A's are scoring runs and we aren't.

And I just look at the lineups and realize there shouldn’t be this big of a gap.

by SethGrandpa on Apr 13, 2010 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Would be more optimistic, if they weren't hitting so many hard balls, and the M's

hitting so many weak balls.

Of course I expect we’ll turn this around and guys will hit like the back of their baseball cards, but I’m not going to chalk this start up to just the other teams getting lucky with their BABIP and us hitting into hard outs.

From what I’ve seen the A’s have put together much better at-bats and hit the ball with a lot greater authority then our guys.

In my opinion, our struggles on offense aren’t luck driven, it’s the result of poor approach and guys pressing.

by Rudy4three on Apr 13, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

The plan to be patient and see lots of pitches

doesn’t work if you don’t get any base runners. If every batter sees 5 pitches before getting out. The starter can still make it deep into the game. Frustrating.

by Snuffleupagus on Apr 13, 2010 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I want to see this lineup tonight:

Ichiro – RF
Figgins – SS
Bradley – DH
Gutierrez – CF
Tuiasosopo – 3B
Lopez – 2B
Kotchman – 1B
Moore – C
Byrnes – LF

by lailaihei on Apr 13, 2010 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

If we add 50 points in wOBA by doing this it makes up for our defensive downgrade.

I’m in class so I don’t want to run the numbers right now, but I can’t imagine it’s more than negligibly worse than the lineup that will be run out tonight.

by lailaihei on Apr 13, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Without appearing supremely bitchy;

Watching Nick Johnson go yard today pissed me off proper.

by TheBishop on Apr 13, 2010 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Rob Johnson

Why in the world do we still have Rob Johnson? Dude isn’t clutch, isn’t good, and that four year old kid in that Deadspin story today can hit better then him.

Either way, I’m just venting. I’ve had less fun watching this team play this year than all of last year. No lie. At times, I just want to punch the TV out of sheer frustration.

by Charles Gipson is a Mangod on Apr 13, 2010 2:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Griffey does look done though, right?

I could have sworn he got ‘all of it’ on the last out yesterday and it didn’t even make the warning track. Obviously one swing doesn’t finish the guy, but he reminded me of Sexson up there waving/watching 87 mph’s right down the middle and can’t make contact. Plus the extra 30 lbs. Bench coach only.

I have a cousin with 1 testicle, when they yell play ball, he smiles.

by Montucky on Apr 13, 2010 3:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Griffey will be fine.

I heard that the team just bought an incubator for him to sit in before games to simulate summer weather.

by Sec 108 on Apr 13, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would be ok with losing

If Jose Lopez would just get a testicle contusion and play through it for the rest of the game.

We can’t even get THAT much entertainment out of the team thus far.

by HititHere on Apr 13, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I had a similar moment before a game once

It was Griffey’s first game back with Cincinnati, in 2007. They showed that highlight video on the big screen, and had the on-field presentation, and Griffey’s little speech. I turned to the guy sitting next to me and said “I could go home happy right now.” Nine innings of 16-2 ball later, I was feeling quite prescient.

by Aly Edge on Apr 13, 2010 4:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, I was at that game too

From the first pitch onward it was a miserable, miserable game. I remember when the “fans” started booing Feierabend for throwing to first with Griffey on. That seriously pissed me off. But hey! We got to see the debut of RRS! So that’s something.

Oh yeah, and we lost 1-16, not 2-16. Just to make it a little worse there.

by Karma Police on Apr 13, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know it is too early to panic, but this would be a lot easier to take if

we did not have a DH who can’t hit, a left fielder who can’t field, and Hannah Montana at catcher who can’t do either.

by Droid Rage on Apr 13, 2010 6:45 PM PDT reply actions  

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