4/12: Open Game Thread, Part 2
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 12, 2010 5:00 PM PDT
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Print1) I can't believe we're losing again. I'm starting to get worried.
2) We're winning! Nothing like a trip home to cure all conceivable ills.
3) Tie game! ooooh!
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Yeah, not like we missed anything though
Not like we’d ever miss anything if MLB.TV always skipped over our half of the inning.
Nicely done Jinx.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it just me...
or is this starting to feel like 2008 again?
I hope so, I really do
I’m just a fan who gets frustrated by not scoring runs. Duchsherer is good, but not this good.
Why did he do that on an 0-2 count?
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
Wow, thank you Dave Sims.
While you’re at it, mention a few other things that the A’s are doing bad at.
Okay I love you RRS but you really need to get your shit together.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
So, really: Astros level.
They win 1 in every 5, too.
No, 0-1
RRS threw that curve to make it 0-2. He threw it when the count was 0-1.
by Matt Erickson on Apr 12, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes it does.
Throwing a 72 mph curveball after a 72 mph curveball is incredibly risky. Not quite as risky as a 88 mph fastball on the inside corner, but still risky.
by Matt Erickson on Apr 12, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
It was an 0-2 count when he hit the homerun
Which is what he’s asking about I think. It was a fastball in the upper right corner of the zone.
Do more of that!
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
Only 71 Pitches
Through 6. Not bad really.
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:06 PM PDT reply actions
Actually... I wouldn't be surprised.
Dude’s a stud.
Wait:
Other favorite team? You can do that?
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Only if they're in the NL and you never root for them over your main team
Go Dodgers! (I’ve been living in LA for 6.5 years or so)
[DELETED ZOMG NO POLITICS]
I adopted the Rockies as my "other team."
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Since moving to Wyoming I've tried really really hard to become a Rockies fan
I just can’t do it for some reason- the team just isn’t likable
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Spring Fair in Puyallup = Furry Convention?
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 5:06 PM PDT reply actions
Don't even joke about that.
I worked at the Marriott during a furry convention. And…well, ew.
Bahahahha
That’s funny
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Apr 12, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Tis a shame.
RRS looks like he could get through at least eight innings. Where for art thou offense?
Hey guys, the top of the order is coming up!
Is it too much to ask for either Ichiro or Figgins to get on?
Carlos Silvelite
And steal three bases?
Try not to take me too seriously
Is anyone else's FSN Comcast feed
producing a totally crap picture? I haven’t heard the broadcasters mention it.
My click feed looks good
No mention of Comcast from the broadcasters
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Apr 12, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
HD feed in Portland is having issues.
All other channels are fine.
Mine was, so I turned the TV off
Especially noticeable with the text in their graphics
No ONE is hitting the ball.
This shit is amazing.
Ball four asshole.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 5:12 PM PDT reply actions
Aberdeen
I wonder if the South Dakota version is as pleasant as the Washington version.
PITCHF/X disagrees with that call.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Wow
Douchwater has a 1-hitter through 6. This is fucking embarrassing.
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:13 PM PDT reply actions
We are looking really bad offensively
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
This is getting awful.
HEY JACK CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE US AN OFFENSE THAT DOESN’T SUCK ON WHEELS BECAUSE WE’VE SEEN THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW AND IT’S REALLY GETTING ANNOYING.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
My thoughts exactly...
You can play defense until the cows come home, but if you can’t score, you can’t win. Sick of this shit!
A little league team
filled with 14 year old paraplegic swiss girls could produce more runs
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:14 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, but they would have massive holes in their swings
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Apr 12, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks a lot
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Apr 12, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like our 1-2-3 hitters
did not take the hitters’ advantage from their first two trips to the plate
Ryan
Seriously, wtf dude. Throw strikes for God’s sake.
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
It's only April. I'm not worried yet.
That is all.
Fuck the Angels
That's just one time though.
The offense is being incredibly frustrating right now but this in all likelihood will not continue.
by ChristopherA on Apr 12, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I would be less worried if the offense would show some shred of competence. Like, real soon.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
DID ROB JOHNSON JUST BLOCK A FUCKING BALL?
HOLY SHIT.
I THINK I JUST SAW A PIG FLYING BY MY WINDOW.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Way to not fail Robby.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
RRS is however making me pull out my hair.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
Time for the hook.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Anybody up in the pen?
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Man, when Ryan decides to walk someone
He doesn’t mess around
Dear Hyphen,
Throw strikes. Sincerely, your fans.
P.S. Don’t throw balls.
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:18 PM PDT reply actions
Comcast looks terrible in Portland
Most people have said it looks fine
Kotchman charges on the bunt, Figgins to 1st, Wilson to 2nd.
That leaves 3rd as the only base to cover.
I'll chalk it up to growing pains for Lopez.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
As Roger Dorn would say
STRIKE THIS MOTHER FUCKER OUT.
Yes.
More of this, Ryan.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
RRS actually has pitched a decent game
I’d like to get a win for him
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:23 PM PDT reply actions
Decent?
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Only given up 2 runs
He’s not exactly getting lit up like Snell
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok nevermind
I spoke too soon. I hate me.
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCK. ROB. JOHNSON
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
GODDAMIT ROB!
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 5:23 PM PDT reply actions
I HATE ROB JOHNSON
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
That is all.
Our pitchers are masochists. They love fucking Rob Johnson.
by stupidquestions on Apr 12, 2010 5:24 PM PDT reply actions
This could read two ways, I just found out.
by stupidquestions on Apr 12, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember when Hyphen struck him out, but Rob Johnson fucking dropped it
50!
by joof on Apr 12, 2010 5:25 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
FUCK YOU ROB JOHNSON YOU CUNTY PRICK BASTARD
WHO SUCKS ON SHIT FUCK ARGH
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
Catcher dropped foul-tips that should have been strikeouts should be counted.
So everyone knows how shitty Johnson is.
And less dead weight on the bench.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
Bradley does not understand spin.
Which should be a prerequisite for playing left field. In T ball.
That's never happened.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
Griffey:
5 run homer next inning. You just wait, you.
He’s the pick to click, after all.
Fuck that zombie*
We need that Jack Wilson to step up and take one for the hamstrings
*Bill Kreuger
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Apr 12, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I just got in to see Rob Johnson cost us 2 runs
That was absolutely hilarious. If we have to lose, I’m glad we lose in a way that completely validates my hatred for a player.
Correction
It should be 2-1. But yeah, I get what you’re saying
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm giving this another half-inning before I bail.
My new Netflix movies just arrived and I’m dying to check them out.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Wow
The more I watch the Mariners, the more I hate Rob fucking Johnson.
Okay. Here's Johnson as a kid
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 12, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Oh, that is fucking cold.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
This makes me happier than it should.
Am I bad person?
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Apr 12, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I used to like Robo Rob
But this is just ridiculous
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:28 PM PDT reply actions
I hated Johjima
with a passion that’s almost holy. That’s why.
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Because he couldn't call a game to save his life.
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
How do you know this?
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
By watching the game.
Rob calls a better game. Or at least he did last year.
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't possibly fathom why
Are you Jarrod Washburn?
by cwel87 on Apr 12, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Possibly the best offensive catcher in M's history with a good throwing arm
What’s to hate?
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Apr 12, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Apr 12, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
as quickly as the gods smiled upon us
Junior will take it away.
by Hancock.Brett on Apr 12, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Rizzs sounded genuinely surprised that that fell in
Try not to take me too seriously
NOW HERE COMES GRIFFEY TO FUCK EVERYTHING UP
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Here comes Griffey.
Gonna tie it at 2-2 or meekly K again.
Oh…
Griffey!
Beat out a DP! Way to run, you fat old man!
I don't think they need to play defense at this point.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Apr 12, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The entire Mariners organization begs to differ.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Apr 12, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
40 years old? Hamstrings shot?
Fucking duh?
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
But he's really fast
in those Nike shoes. Ask his friend Torii
Man, this team is sure playing like shit. Good thing it's still preseason cause Sweeney's on the bench and
OH FUCKING GOD IT’S APRIL 12 SELL SELL SELL
Come on boys, time for a rally.
Time for a what?
Jesus Christ Kotch...
STRAIGHTER
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 5:34 PM PDT reply actions
He was born that way!
And their just eyes!
I'll name my first born 'Casey', if he hits one out...
Well, that might upset the folks. First dog?
GROUNDBALL OF OUR DOOM
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
I smell a doily coming up.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Please please please please please
PRETTY FUCKING PLEASE can we drive in these two runners?
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:35 PM PDT reply actions
Bradley looked like he was about to lower his shoulder too.
"Abtholoootleee"
by Floyd Gondoli on Apr 12, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Albert Belle style
Try not to take me too seriously
Here's where everyone falls in love with Rob momentarily
I want to be a hippie, but I forgot how to love.
God, what's Pat Borders up to.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
Is that like an inexplicable double?
by harkening on Apr 12, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why does it seem like Rob comes to the plate
every ninth time?
Density
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Apr 12, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Shawn Kelley in the pen.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
That's the Rob Johnson we all know and...
well, y’know.
FUCK
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Apr 12, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe we don't all know.
Because I do not have the required amount of affection for Rob Johnson to do that. Quite the opposite, in fact.
That has to be the worst bottom of the order in the AL
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
I FUCKING HATE ROB JOHNSON MORE THAN I HATED ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Padres are winning 14-0.
Why do we suck so fucking much?
Next LL fundraiser:
Hiring a professional assassin to rub out Rob Johnson.
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
by JAH on Apr 12, 2010 5:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
We really don't even need to go that far.
He’s so brittle, we just need someone to hit him with a pillow and then he’ll break 2 bones and need another hip replacement.
We're going to go through a hot stretch at some point.
There are 162 games in a season. We’ve played about 8.
Try not to take me too seriously
Where the fuck is our offense?
Seriously. D is fine and all that but really?
We need to bring the THUNDER back to Seattle.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I don't think they'd be any better at hitting than our current line up.
by Eyeball Kid on Apr 12, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Then we can list this game as a small victory!
Welcome to enlightenment.
Not if the Astros can help it
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Apr 12, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder what the threshold has been set at internally
Below which this team will no longer play Rob Johnson. I’m thinking like a solid .125 BA with 2-3 passed balls/game.
So you guys remember when we had this on guy named Varitek and we traded him away?
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:43 PM PDT reply actions
for Heathcliffe Slocumb!
I forget, which one is still playing???
Blez: Most folks seem to believe that the big flaw with the 2010 Oakland A's will be the lack of any power.
Beane: They believe it because it's true.
by One won lost won on Apr 12, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
That fucking changeup is nice.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 5:44 PM PDT reply actions
My girlfriend tells me that all the time
Try not to take me too seriously
Jesus Christ Barton... swing at SOMETHING.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 5:44 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, like all those strikes the ump is calling balls!
What the hell!?
Remember when the Mariners were supposed to be annoying to other teams?
Looks like that backfired towards us.
Carlos Silvelite
I hope Rob Johnson
… Pulls an Adrian Beltre. Y’know, with the penis and such.
Stupid cups.
Pitch 5 and Pitch 8 to Barton are both strikes.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 5:45 PM PDT reply actions
I know it's blasphemous, but seriously, even his name makes me angry.
Who spells derek, daric?
So much for the generous strike zone this ump had been giving earlier
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Where the hell was that, asshole?
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 5:47 PM PDT reply actions
Okay, I give up.
I’m going to watch a Don Bluth movie and drown my sorrows.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Ready for giant computers and no more humans behind the plate.
by Spider Jerusalem on Apr 12, 2010 5:48 PM PDT reply actions
Even if signed with us he'd suck
Let him sign with Oakland or someone else and hit 20 homers.
Carlos Silvelite
Eat slider, assbag.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 5:50 PM PDT reply actions
OKAY. NOW DOES ANYONE WANT TO FUCKING SCORE RUNS?
Does anyone even know what those are?
Cool down.
Jack Wilson coming up.
It’s all good!
The things you let the other team have.
Because your mom said only sluts score runs.
by Spider Jerusalem on Apr 12, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
If we're going to produce
Now’s the time.
by ErictheHawksFan on Apr 12, 2010 5:50 PM PDT reply actions
Time for Jack Wilson strikeouts!
Ichiro popups!
And Figgins failure!
Please, top of the lineup, do something, once…
Carlos Silvelite
This game sucks.
Why can’t we do what the almighty predicted and win 90 – 95 games like he said?
I’m a sad panda who is trapped in a box
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
I have no clue as to what that is...
and with family in the room, I am not sure if I want to look
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Apr 12, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah. Then that probably describes what I said so yes.
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Apr 12, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's see how few pitches the top of the lineup can take while still going down in order
My guess: 6.
Going with 7.
And Jack just hit the first fucking pitch.
Oh, thought that was the first pitch.
Thank god it wasn’t.
We've got the chance to be the best 1-2 in baseball history!
I hope!
Not great timing by FSN, I should say.
Did they even show it?
I wasn’t paying attention but I’m pretty sure they didn’t
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Apr 12, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Great, so we're going to get shut out in our home opener
Nice….
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I HOPE ROB JOHNSON DIES FROM A PERFORATED COLON
by I Lick Squirrels on Apr 12, 2010 5:55 PM PDT reply actions
That was close
Good thing its spring training
"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." ~ Dinobot
by beastwarking on Apr 12, 2010 5:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
You'll be dead by May
Try not to take me too seriously
At least I'm getting paid to be here.
Cause this pretty painful to watch
I'd give the money back.
And go home.
by Ender15 on Apr 12, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ha
It's a Casio on a plastic beach
by Roy Weaver Stuckey on Apr 12, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Div can come vent here anytime he wants.
If he doesn’t mind the whole universe seeing it.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Not much you can really say, is there?
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, my Bill Bavasi comment from spring training pretty much sums up my willingness to say anything
I must have missed that one.
What was it? (off the record of course… hurr).
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wow.
No, I bet that didn’t make work uncomfortable for a bit.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
90mph?
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 6:01 PM PDT reply actions
Dropping that ball won't show up in the WE, will it?
"Abtholoootleee"
by Floyd Gondoli on Apr 12, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I really doubt Rob would still be around, even with the org's baffling infatuation with him,
if he played a quantifiable position.
It's actually quite quantifiable
He plays catcher; He does not catch the ball.
by killer_ewok18 on Apr 12, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
its not ...
… are suicidal candidates have already committed the deed.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Yesterday was much more suicidal.
I think the most volatile ones are dead already.
by Spider Jerusalem on Apr 12, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Like it
Now if only we’d replace our really tiny jumbotron.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
On the screen
Enter the 21st Century Ms, junk the matrix board and go with the mega jumbtron like they have at Qwest.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
That was a strike.
More computers, less umpires.
by Spider Jerusalem on Apr 12, 2010 6:06 PM PDT reply actions
89mph?
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 6:06 PM PDT reply actions
God damn, I just saw the score
And we are a fucking minor league team
Had to step out for a little while
I see we still suck balls.
That's respect.
We’re contenders, remember?
by Spider Jerusalem on Apr 12, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Epic comeback time.
And by epic comeback I mean Mike Sweeney.
by Spider Jerusalem on Apr 12, 2010 6:08 PM PDT reply actions
Griffey:
5 run homer next inning. You just wait, you.
PICK TO CLICK, BABY
Geoff Baker was right.
Sean White is magical. The way his pitches come up to the plate spin so that it creates one of those swirly hypnosis thingies. The batter is lulled into swinging at it and not hitting a home run.
They then cluck like chickens back in the dugout.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 6:09 PM PDT reply actions
LETS HIT BACK TO BACK TO BACK TO BACK HOME RUNS AND BRAKE ANDREW BAILEY
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
BRAKE???
disc, or drum?
Blez: Most folks seem to believe that the big flaw with the 2010 Oakland A's will be the lack of any power.
Beane: They believe it because it's true.
by One won lost won on Apr 12, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Griffey better not get out
Rob deserves the honor
we haven't set the all time loss record yet...
… it would look nice right next to our all time wins record, don’t you think?
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
What's our team BABIP? .150?
Balls in play, hard or not, are right at people. Or robbed by non-Gutierrez centerfielders.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 6:13 PM PDT reply actions
Besides this game our opponents seem to have all their hits dropping too (fangraphs says .348).
My brain is trying to bargain with me that at least we’re getting bad luck out of the way first, then I remember that logically it doesn’t work that way.
by ChristopherA on Apr 12, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
No, but regression back to the mean will be fucking sweet.
If things go like they are, that should happen right about the time Cliff Lee comes back, which means Cliff Lee will get major credit for helping turn the team around…. etc.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Besides this game our opponents seem to have all their hits dropping too (fangraphs says .348).
My brain is trying to bargain with me that at least we’re getting bad luck out of the way first, then I remember that logically it doesn’t work that way.
by ChristopherA on Apr 12, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Besides this game our opponents seem to have all their hits dropping too (fangraphs says .348).
My brain is trying to bargain with me that at least we’re getting bad luck out of the way first, then I remember that logically it doesn’t work that way.
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
by Corco on Apr 12, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're not Corco.
You’re ChristopherB
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Griffey:
5 run HR on an 0-2 count.
BELIEVE BIG (that having nothing to do with Griffey’s waistline).
Hey Ryan?
You can go home now.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 6:14 PM PDT reply actions
It isn't.
Getting owned by shittastic Quad-A right handers because we had a hacktastic team of mostly righties was much worse.
MUCH worse.
This is just frustrating because the guys we know can hit good aren’t, aside from Franklin, and it’s not like the rest of the team is good enough to carry us.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
This team exhausts me.
I hope we can get it together here in the next few games. It’s too early to press the panic button… but eventually it will be too LATE not too.
I dunno; I have a hard time being harsh re: that Griffey AB.
He swung pretty well, connected, got around on a couple pitches…
He’s just old now…RETIRE.
Time to bring back a good old 2008 meme
There is no floor
Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee Cliff Lee
by Spider Jerusalem on Apr 12, 2010 6:16 PM PDT reply actions
Cliff Pennington went yard today?
Man, this game was more of a hilassacre than I originally thought.
He's doin' his Joe Morgan imitation
Watch out for Pennington. I predicted 13-17 HRs for the guy this year. The ball really flies off his bat when he gets solid contact.
Blez: Most folks seem to believe that the big flaw with the 2010 Oakland A's will be the lack of any power.
Beane: They believe it because it's true.
by One won lost won on Apr 12, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh well,
Time to read Dave Cameron’s recap.
by ThundaPC on Apr 12, 2010 6:18 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't quite see a point in living anymore
It’s been real ya’ll
by Stormton on Apr 12, 2010 6:20 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Griffey needs to go on the DL and only get reactivated if he loses 20 pounds.
by I Lick Squirrels on Apr 12, 2010 6:21 PM PDT reply actions
I don't think any amount of weight loss is going to help at this point.
I’d rather he come back as an obese fat load so fans have mixed feelings about rooting for him.
Will everyone please shut the hell up about Griffey
At this rate everyone on this team should fucking retire. At least Griffey almost gave it a ride there at the end. And he’s not Rob fucking Johnson. He’s got that going for him.
What I'm saying is if everyone is so concerned at the lack of hitting, please get pissed at EVERYONE in the lineup, not just Griffey.
Except for Guti.
But I don't expect everyone else to be above average hitters, and the ones I do expect to be above average have a track record of being good.
Griffey’s only role on this team is to hit, and there’s little evidence that he’s good at it anymore.
Most of the Mariners have spent time in the last decade not being a below-replacement level player.
Griffey, not so much. He’s had one good season since 2000, and everything else is varying levels of injured or garbage.
The only reason he has a MLB job in 2001 is he’s ZOMG JUNIOR, instead of Carl Everett.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 12, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Er, strike 2001 for 2010, and "below".
Is he the worst problem on the team? No.They are all playing badly right now, save Felix and Guti. But I think Ichiro, Figgins and others are tons more likely to bounce back a lot as opposed to Junior, since they aren’t 40 and fighting through a decade of injury.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 12, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, yes.
Griffey is not good anymore. We know this. But the point is he’s had more than one good season since 2000.
Fangraphs has 2003 and 2005 as seasons over +1.0 WAR, and Smith’s WAR database has every season in that span except 2002 valued at over +1.
Alright, but he only played in 53 games in 2003.
Not exactly an adequate yearly sample.
I wasn't defending him; I was pointing out inadequacies in coward's evaluation.
I mean, it’s one thing to say “He was injured and would have easily outperformed that level” (and it’s probably true), but the truth is he didn’t and the injury affects our idea.
But then we have Rob fucking Johnson on this team, who can’t even produce 1 WAR in a whole season. The evaluation has to be taken in context. Is Griffey worth 2 million this season? Well, he’d need to be worth 0.5 WAR to hit that…so, probably not, but it’s believable seeing as his .230 BABIP last year contributed to 0.3 WAR (only 0.2 off his necessary production to match his paycheck).
Paying full value for a half a win player is bad
Because there are so many hitters capable of matching that available for the league minimum. He’d need to do better than that to justify the contract, and he won’t. Because he hasn’t for many, many years and is only going to get worse with age.
"I wasn't defending him."
What part of this statement do you not understand?
I don’t actually buy into the “In Z We Trust” mantra here and at USSM. Griffey signing, Sweeney’s continued presence, passing (albeit successfully) Langerhans through waivers, Rob Johnson…the roster construction in total is not something I like.
But like E-Lizz, who launched this sub thread, I just can’t stand the Griffey hate when taken along with the rest of the roster.
Griffey is annoying because he's one of the team's three worst hitters
and he’s slotted into a position where he is incredibly replaceable.
I'm quoting myself via USSM:
The Fangraphs leaderboard for designated hitters has Junior with a .347 wOBA over the last three calendar years, which is quite literally a league average DH when sampled over 500 PA’s.
He’s due for some regression. Will he be great? No. But he is not this team’s biggest problem on offense.
A three year average with all 3 years equally weighted is VERY misleading.
You’re discussing a 40 year old player who, as was pointed out, is sliding very badly downhill each year.
The reason Griffey’s BABIP sucks is the same reason Richie Sexson’s BABIP sucked: they both can’t hit any more.
The other problem is Griffey’s contribution is ALL with a bat. Wilson can’t hit, but he can field. Ditto Lopez and so on.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 12, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not picking on you, but people need to realize that a bell curve distribution is not the same as the straight line that straight up Win Value at fangraphs suggests
The closer you are to replacement level, the less valuable your WAR is, and the farther away from it you are, the more valuable.
Yup.
0-0.5 WAR players are figuratively a dime a dozen. A lot of random AAA players could come in and give .5 WAR over a full season. Hell, Princess Willie could be a replacement-level 2B over a year.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 12, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, the conversations were going on simultaneously!
It’s almost like I was having a discussion with different people about the same topic! Crazy talk!
Understood.
Talent is in a bell curve, but payroll increases at a fairly linear rate once you hit league average.
"He’s had one good season since 2000, and everything else is varying levels of injured or garbage."
53 games seems to count in the “injured” pile.
by eponymous_coward on Apr 12, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, that sucked.
I’m gonna go eat junk food as a form of self-mutilation. How about you guys?
I was so excited to watch Baseball and study
My first go at it was on Friday. I got halfway through the chapter and ended up spending more time with bourbon than my book.
Carlos Silvelite
I don't even try. I just rearrange my day around the baseball games.
That’s why I’m writing an assignment for my reporting class at 11 PM.
I hate leads.
I'd sleep at the Internet, but I've found servers don't make for good pillows.
by thehemogoblin on Apr 12, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
They rated him pretty high and depends on what the AI does.
He starts out 20/80, but has 50/80 potential which is way too generous.
Goddamn fuck this team.
FUCK ERIC BYRNES FUCK ERIC BYRNES!
by Goose on Apr 12, 2010 6:49 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Two runs were pretty much scoring on that single.
The only base that was given up on the error was allowing the batter to get to second.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Apr 12, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends.
There was no out to be made there, so if the next hit was a single or a double it’s probably an unearned run. If it’s a triple or a home run, it’s earned (he would have been at first regardless).
Or some such bullocks.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 12, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
If he had advanced to third and scored on a sac fly
then the run would have been unearned, I believe.
The error would have had to have made a meaningful contribution to the run scoring.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Apr 12, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
So it seems my theory was confirmed.
Don Bluth movies—more entertaining than Mariners games.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
FUCK YOU, ROBERT JOHNSON.
You son of a shunned nun. You don’t belong in Seattle… hell, you don’t belong on the Clinton fucking Lumberkings.
Inform Z. And Wak. And the whole fucking organization.
So tired of it.
Dropped a strikeout, leading to Gabe Gross's two-run single+.
I'd sleep at the Internet, but I've found servers don't make for good pillows.
by thehemogoblin on Apr 12, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He did actually block a small handful of pitches, though.
I was surprised and vaguely excited.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Apr 12, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Rob is our scapegoat for the game.
We were shutout and we’re ticked off that we don’t have an offense.
by TrustBaseball on Apr 12, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Rob is terrible.
I don’t know if he’s exactly a scapegoat. But absolutely everything bad that can and has happened is Rob Johnson’s fault.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 13, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
On the bright side
Joe Mauer seems to be a nice guy.
"Why did he run when I was going to throw him out?"
- Ichiro Suzuki
Sure, we lost today...but today ruled!
People I met today (in order):
1. Howie Lincoln (I know, I know..)
2. Gov. Gregoire
3. Mayor McGinn
4. Jack Wilson
5. Randy Johnson
6. Edgar Martinez
7. Dan Wilson
8. Jay Buhner
9. Red
10. Red’s girlfriend (fiance? wife?)
So that made today AWESOME! Best home opener EVER!
by sirbrianwilson on Apr 12, 2010 10:16 PM PDT reply actions
1. Opening ceremony was the high point of the day.
2. The home plate umpires’ lil’ Michael Jackson strike dance was really, really annoying.
3. This game made me sad.
no lead is safe.
by sanford_and_son on Apr 12, 2010 10:59 PM PDT reply actions
I'm sure that won't last long.
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Apr 13, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Kotchman's play at first made the number 9 play of the day on Sportscenter, not too shabby.
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Apr 13, 2010 10:00 AM PDT reply actions
Number 9??
Lame. That was a fantastic freaking play.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 13, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
It was #9 for all the plays, (all sport)
It was webgem #2 also, I believe.
by doublemazaa on Apr 13, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats a bit better.
I did see that Crawford play. Ridiculous.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 13, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone needs to calm the fuck down
It’s the second week of baseball and the M’s first home game. Give them a break. Last year we started off hot and cooled down; perhaps this year we’re going for the opposite effect. If you guys were actual Mariners fans, you wouldn’t be assholes to all the players. Come on, at least give them a month before you start with this nonsense.
by katherinekiyoko on Apr 13, 2010 11:58 AM PDT reply actions
Oh no, I realize everyone's trying to be funny,
but it gets to a point where it’s just rude and pointless. I doubt the M’s would look at this thread and be thankful for their “fans.”
by katherinekiyoko on Apr 13, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Grown men getting paid to play baseball shouldn't be wasting time on the internet anyways.
But if they read this, I’m sure they think it’s hilariously retarded.
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Apr 13, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
If people suck, we don't want them on the team anymore, the more people who suck you have on your team the less likely you are to win
Therefore, seeing people who suck remain on this team makes people angry, because we want to win. Those are the people who really get piled on (Griffey, Sweeney) and I don’t think it would be a bad thing to have that displeasure communicated to the people who run the team. If more people did it, one or both of them might not even be here right now.
Other times there are just frustrating moments in a game where people need to vent over a play. And sweet holy hell this team has been frustrating so far.
Personally I'm mad because the team is willfully not putting their best players on the field, and for an obsessive diehard fan, it is a frustrating helpless situation
When we lose in painful fashion, people tend to focus their frustrations on our worst players. I love Ken Griffey Jr., but he’s been beyond finished for some time now, and the nostalgia of him being in back Seattle wore off sometime back in 2007. I would hope he would retire with some dignity before it’s too late. Ken Griffey Jr. should not be remembered to a generation of fans as someone who should be booed when he comes to the plate, he shouldn’t be remembered as the guy who is literally the worst player in baseball.
by Poochie on Apr 13, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just don't see how saying "fuck this M's player" or "fuck that M's player" constitutes one being a Mariners fan
Why don’t we just stick to fuck the Angels and call it good? Oh and IT’S ONLY THE SECOND WEEK.
by katherinekiyoko on Apr 13, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Because the Mariners make us mad sometimes
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 13, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Because we support an organization and the team they put on the field to play baseball.
We want the Mariners to win. Certain players are not good at baseball, and therefore do not help the Mariners win.
And by “certain players”, I mean Rob fucking Johnson. And Mike Sweeney, but he’s such a swell guy that we don’t hate him—just his presence on the team.
The only player I seriously feel this way about is Rob Fucking Johnson.
And thats is totally fucking justified.
Get off it.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 13, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
To Rob? No.
To other posters? Ya, I know. I’m really pissed off right now.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 13, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
So here is the thing.
I have had season tickets for longer than you have known how to not shit your pants. Get to know the people here before you start shouting all high and mighty at us.
by Sec 108 on Apr 13, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Okay, I'm not saying Rob's brilliant,
but would you rather have Moore step in? Because that didn’t work out too well last week either. And if everyone weren’t so obsessed with the Kid then the M’s wouldn’t have brought him back in the first place. It isn’t our fault that most M’s fans are still living in the 90s. Sure, we don’t have a perfect team, but no one does. We need to support the players we do have because treating them like shit isn’t going to help them play better.
by katherinekiyoko on Apr 13, 2010 12:44 PM PDT reply actions
It's going to make them play neither better nor worse
I still don’t think you quite understand how fandom works. When you care about a team and they do something bad, it’s upsetting. When you get upset, you say things you may or may not mean. When you say things you may or may not mean, they tend to come out angrily.
Thus, fuck Rob Johnson
by seattlebruin on Apr 13, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, we aren't treating them like shit.
We are venting about them. They do not experience this in person.
Wait, so just because you don't have the opportunity to say this to their face it doesn't count as badmouthing?
Are you honestly saying everyone that types “fuck Rob Johnson” on fandom wouldn’t say it to Rob’s face or scream it at home games? I find that hard to believe.
by katherinekiyoko on Apr 13, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I openly boo Rob Johnson.
I openly turn to other fans and insist that Rob Johnson really sucks at his job. But when Rob does something right—like, I dunno, gets an XBH—I cheer. Why? Not because of Rob Johnson, but because it’s helping the Mariners.
I want the Mariners to do well, and by extension I want Johnson to do well. But I think the Mariners would do better with an alternative to Rob Johnson.
Why would we want our own team to be unsuccessful (Strasburg aside)?
that’s the whole point. When you care, you get upset. When you say upset you say irrational things
by seattlebruin on Apr 13, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
"would you rather have Moore step in?"
500% YES!!!!!!!
I have no idea what the fuck the CI was about but his defense is so much better its not even funny. And he’s a freakin rookie people, the hitting will come around.
Everything is Rob Johnson's fault.
by the other side on Apr 13, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
We have a statistically insignificant small sample size with Adam Moore.
We have 3/4 of a season of Johnson blocking a clearly superior catcher in Johjima. And sucking at it. He can’t catch, he can’t hit (even if his .269 wOBA regresses toward league average, this tends to stabilize around 500 plate appearances. He’d have to hit .370—better than Ichiro!—over his next 200 PA’s to be league average).
Good God I’d rather have Adam Moore.
Catchers who are league average hitters are 3.5 WAR players
by seattlebruin on Apr 13, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Johnson is not league average, though.
Nowhere close.
Which was sort of the point.
“Would you rather have Adam Moore?” was the question, with an appeal to his ridiculously small sample size of the last week. The answer here is “Yes, and here’s why: look, Johnson sort of sucks.”
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