3/8/10 OFFTOP of Oscar annoyances
I am posting this OT because, well, the other one was too far down the page and I have grown tired of having to scroll down to find it. There. I said it.
ANYWAYS - I will be the first to admit, I didn't watch the Oscars last night. Although, judging by the running commentary in the previous OTFPOTD, there were quite a few who did. Here is what I know - The Hurt Locker beat Furn Gully in Space (told my fiancee that this morning, she asked "What's the Hurt Locker?" So that was interesting..) and Sandra Bullock won for something. That in and of itself is worthy of a "stop the presses" moment, apparently.
But hey, she was hot in Speed!
Who watched the Oscars? What are your gripes?
Finally, a couple more things. People in Seattle know how to drive in the rain - that is a simple fact. Another simple fact? Arizonans cannot. Also, Battlefield Bad Company 2 - great game, or shitty game? Because in my time with it, I am leaning towards the latter.
As per the request on the last thread, OT poll time!
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They ride your bumper on 520 for only going 5 miles over the posted limit, in the stretch were you can't change lanes?
I try to keep up with the flow of traffic on 520
I’m almost certain that my speedometer is off a few miles, so I figured that if I’m the one being passed it won’t create an issue. But I agree with your frustration while driving across that sorry excuse of a road.
The flow is often going about 5 over--
but there are the occasional ones (usually in very nice cars) who can’t be held back from their very important activities.
I absolutely hate that.
Not just on 520, but anywhere. I also found people love speeding on the I-5 corridor near Bellevue.
2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4
by Fin on Mar 8, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
near Bellingham*
2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4
by Fin on Mar 8, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
That pisses me off so much.
That movie was incredible.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 8, 2010 8:33 AM PST up reply actions
LL Academy vote:
Generally ok with the results, but:
Give best cinematography to The Hurt Locker instead of Avatar (thus increasing Hurt Locker’s general pwnage.)
Give best original screenplay to A Serious Man (it was SO much smarter than anything else this year. This also balances Hurt Locker’s pwnage.)
Give Mo’Nique 2 Oscars instead of 1 for supporting actress due to how much her performance rocked everyone elses.
Take Sandra Bullock’s Oscar away from her. Clean it. Then give it to Meryl Streep. Then rename Best Actress the Meryl Streep Award.
Find a way to give In the Loop something.
Find a way to give District 9 something too.
District 9 not winning anything really bothered me.
That’s about it. I could make a case for James Cameron for director instead but I haven’t seen the Hurt Locker.
James Cameron should've won best director. But that was never going to happen.
District 9 should’ve taken best editing because well how do you define this damn award?
And there is no way in hell I would’ve of given best cinematography to Hurt Locker over Avatar.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 8, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
I've got The Hurt Locker on a flash drive and I still haven't watched it yet
But my opinion on Best Director/Best Film is that they should be somewhat tied together in sense.
This is my feeling.
But most of the times they are.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 8, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
Absolutely they are but that doesn't make it right.
But then what am I arguing about? You already agree with me.
Just because that's my opinion doesn't mean that I feel it's correct
It’s just how it’s been in the past it seems
How can you give Avatar best Cinematography...
When it was largely filmed in front of a green screen? That’s art direction or visual effects or something… not cinematography.
I disagree.
I thought Sherlock Holmes had amazing cinematography. The way they described the award, it was about the sets built for the movie. Avatar didn’t have large sets. It was mostly computers and no cameras.
Think about it though, and I could be wrong on this
But how many times has Best Director/Best Film been awarded to the same people
I will also gripe over this.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 8, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
He was so incredibly good in that movie.
Then again, I’ve never seen Sam Rockwell be bad. I don’t think he knows how.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 8, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
Confessions of a Dangerous Mind is still one of my favorite films.
Sometimes after a second viewing or a some time passes that opinion changes, but not yet with that film.
I have had that downloaded for a good 2 months, still have yet to watch it though
by seattlesundevil on Mar 8, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
I made my dad watch LAC the other night.
It is such an awesome thriller. Gerard Butler is amazing and he has taken Russell Crowe’s career away.
Dammit, you beat me to it.
I was gonna say “prison ships”.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 8, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
I never quite understood why a continent formed on the descendants from a prison colony could be just so damn cheerful
How can you look at kangaroos and playtipi and not think that life is hilarious?
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Good thing my book isn't on monotremes
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Playtipi sounds evenmore fun.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 8, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Just tell him it's scrapings from Felix's navel.
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by Eyebrows on Mar 8, 2010 11:13 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
They all sound the same, anyways..
There. I said it.
by seattlesundevil on Mar 8, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
Stopping at the top of the on ramp, instead of matching speeds and merging.
If traffic is that heavy, there’s no way they’ll be able to find a gap big enough to jump into from a dead standstill. Instant rage inducer.
Bad drivers annoy me the most when they are not considerate on the road
I can live with people who drive super fast but safely, and people who want to drive five under in the slow lane. It’s people who get to a right turn with room for two cars and don’t move all the way to the left of the lane who annoy me. People going too slow in the fast lane. People not pulling all the way up to the car in front of them in a traffic jam so one more car can get through the intersection. General non-awareness of surroundings on the road.
Some people are just awful drivers, and there’s nothing they can do about it – however, everyone should be able to be courteous and considerate to others on the road
On the interstate, next to a semi-truck and stay there despite open road in front and a log jam of cars behind.
Completely oblivious.
I did that to a guy driving an Audi yesterday
He was riding my ass at 70 in the carpool. He switched lanes to the right to try and get around me, only to have another person merge in front of him, and directly alongside me (which I always hate. DON’T MERGE WHILE DIRECTLY ALONGSIDE ANOTHER CAR). He then merged back in behind me and crept right up on me, so I slowed down to match the speed of the adjacent vehicle (~65). Drove like this for about 2 miles before the other rig moved back over, and he merged right and shot past me like a bat out of hell and of course flipped me off as he raced by.
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Mar 8, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The merging while directly next to another car terrifies me.
I was hit by a semi once while I was even with the cabin of the semi and now I can’t stay next to a car for more than it takes for me to pass them or slow down to let them pass.
It's probably my #1 unsafe driving thing that never gets mentioned
Speeding, tailgating, etc. are all dangerous but are well-known to be so. I cringe every time I see somebody switch lanes alongside somebody because you are making a complete assumption that the other person won’t decide to switch lanes at the same time
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Mar 8, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
This is usually how it works
Non-verbal communication with you and another driver to block theblock the asshat driving like an asshat
I got the driver in front of me who slowed down the incline to the 5-way stop and then started waffling about whether the light was going to turn amber
so that it indeed DID turn amber, which she got through and left me behind at the stop light for the 5 traffic rotations.
by msb on Mar 8, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
People that leave huge gaps in between them in the Drive Thru.
Causing traffic to flow out onto the street.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 8, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
Oh!
driving in your blind spot for an extended amount of time on an open freeway. This is way worse than tailgating, if you’re tailgating, at least I know where you are. Blindspot, I have to turn my head to see you.
On that note
People who overtake at microscopic speeds on an open freeway.
I have my cruise control set at 80, you have your cruise control set at 80.001. You’ll eventually pass me, but it’ll take three minutes. Why can’t you just speed up an extra mile an hour or two just to pass me?
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Or the corollary to these people,
other driver’s doing 60, I pass at, oh, 70, and they instantly speed up to 69. Why? What’s the point of this?
I made no normative judgment of your speed; my passing you wasn’t a demand that you drive the same speed as me.
When i see someone passing me
my natural instinct is “Oh shit, I’m going too slow.” so I speed up. This isn’t something i’m proud of but that’s the logic that goes into it.
by Mariner John on Mar 8, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Some people do this because it gives added protection when speeding
I’m much more comfortable going 90 in a 75 if there’s a car in front of me doing 90 then if I’m out on my own, because it gives me an extra couple seconds to slow down if there’s a cop.
I’m guilty of it, but I try to still leave plenty of room and wait until they have finished passing.
People who do it while the other car is still overtaking are douchebags
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
This
it’s OK to speed up following someone for the cop protection (plus drafting, if that you’re that adventuresome!), but speeding to keep someone from passing you is pretty dickish (unless they are driving like an asshole in the first place)
by seattlebruin on Mar 8, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
GOD
that just happened to me this morning on the freeway as I was trying to exit. I needed to merge over two lanes, and the car in the middle lane was going about 70, and I was going 80. As soon as I caught up, he sped up and I ended up going 95 just to get around him.
Not so bad if it’s not the God damn exit lane
by seattlebruin on Mar 8, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
What I really don't get are the people doing 60 in the fast lane
who suddenly speed up when I pass them, go 75 for a bit, then quickly drop back to 60.
I think this is a Washington thing more than a CA thing, but man.. I see this every day.
I've decided there are 5 main types of drivers.
The Yo-Yo, or the driver that refuses to be passed, even if it means temporarily speeding up to stay in front of you, then dropping back to his original speed. This plays hell with the cruise control. If you do pass them they try and keep up to eventually pass you again, it typically takes approximately .5 miles of separation to break the invisible bond. Contributes to monstrous packs.
The Serial Tailgater. Drives fast enough to pass you, but inexplicably tailgates you instead of passing. This type helps create monstrous packs.
The Lone Wolf. Will do anything to weave through a pack, break all contact and maintain a consistent 5 MPH minimum over the posted limit.
The Very Responsible Driver. Drives the speed limit, refuses to pass anyone, maintains a consistent 2 second gap because that’s what you’re supposed to do.
Socially Responsible Driver. 5 MPH under the limit, no matter what the traffic flow, no matter the conditions. Because fuck you, that’s why.
I'm vaguely #3, but I tend to just sit in the left lane until the middle opens up enough to pass.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
The Serial tailgater will of course race up to sit behind the next car ahead of them, should you move out of their way.
Potentially annoying driver type yet the easiest to defeat.
What’s funny is that works even in the right lane, they’re like an unguided missile. Move left for a moment, then forget about them.
I'm generally the third, I like to be in gaps as much as possible
But I won’t do anything to weave through a pack- for whatever reason I absolutely refuse to pass ont he right
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Carpool lane I'll make an exception for
If I’m cruising down a two lane freeway and some guy is just chilling in the left lane going a slow speed, I’ll just stay behind him until he moves over, because that increases the chance a cop sees him and pulls him over for not keeping right except to pass
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
I have never once seen any cop pull anyone over ever for that.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
A cop mentioned it to me once.
He had already pulled me over for speeding though.
Impeding the flow of traffic is in some states reason to be pulled over.
It’s all at the descretion of the cop though. In Illinois they enforce it pretty well
The only people I know who have been ticketed for impeding the flow of traffic
were pulled over for speeding, and “let off” with this lesser offense.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 8, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
Of course that's probably just the language of the law for driving in the left lane without directly passing
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
I've seen it done, but the asshat was left lane camping on a passing lane with a cop immediately behind him
I don’t think it happens very often and in rural areas I wish it was done more often.
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Mild Lone Wolf with Yo-yo tendencies in long haul driving
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 8, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Not equipped with cruise control?
Because the Yo-yo drivers piss the hell out of me when on long drives. I will be on cruise control ~10 mph over the speed limit and the Yo-yo will speed ahead of me, slow down, I pass, then repeat. Either pass me or fall behind me. Stop hanging around me like an annoying gnat.
My slight tendency to yo-yo is caused by a vehicle overtaking me slowly.
If I’m going to get trapped in the right lane behind a slower vehicle, I’ll speed up and move left until I’m clear. Jeez, driving sub-threads are kind of weird to participate in. It’s funny how people organize things when you’re driving down the road trying to kill mental time.
Not exactly.
It’s more of a product of driving some lonesome roads in the west, and after a certain point I get out into the middle of nowhere, no other cars to be seen, and sometimes I slow down slightly to take in the scenery, but then another car appears and I realize what I’ve done and re-align myself with the speed limit.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 8, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
#3 describes me pretty well, but I think that comes from my driver's ed
I think that it stuck in my brain that it is best to be a Lone Wolf because when you are in a pack you don’t have options to avoid an accident. As a Lone Wolf, I have other lanes to get into if something crazy happens in front of me.
by seattle_since_81 on Mar 8, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Oddly enough, Oregonians cannot drive in the rain, merge, or keep speed.
I fucking hate you Mariners
But seriously on the keeping speed in Oregon.
Most of the highways and interstates have lower speeds than other states, and they still can’t go the speed limit. It’s amazing, and infuriating, all at the same time!
I fucking hate you Mariners
I was woken up around midnight last night to the sound of driving rain and hail smacking my window
Scared the shit out of me.. Not a fun thing to wake up to!
by seattlesundevil on Mar 8, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
I woke up to what appeared to be a fire alarm going off next door
but it was really loud so I spent twenty minutes trying to figure out where in my house it was coming from before finally hearing the neighbors wake up and fight the thing for another 20 minutes. It was somewhat hilarious and somewhat what the fuck I want to sleep it’s 12:15 AM
A companion to the Aybar bees gif!

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by Eyebrows on Mar 8, 2010 9:10 AM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
The best part is that I don't understand the context of the clip.
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by Eyebrows on Mar 8, 2010 9:24 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
All I know is that it makes Graham :(
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by Eyebrows on Mar 8, 2010 10:18 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
That's Joe Cole, from the looks of it.
A player who’s rumored to be leaving Chelsea for Man U.
But it’s OK, as Chelsea could replace him with Landon Donovan, one of Graham’s favorite players.
I have a suggestion as to a team change for you.
7500 to Holte - American footy fans are slightly unprepared
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 8, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Wait, when was the last time Joe Cole played?
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 8, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
2/27/10 v. Man City
He’s missed some time, sure, but stings from giant happy bees can enervate even top athletes.
I know, I was just hoping for a Graham rant.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 8, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Old people driving!
Growing up in Florida and learning to drive there is a real experience in it’s own. The snowbirds feel is absolutely necessary to drive about 45 on the interstate. The state instituted a MINIMUM speed limit of 50 on all major highways to combat this and it hasn’t really done anything. You usually see this in every part of the state except when you get closer to Miami/Fort Lauderdale, then if you aren’t doing 20 over then you’re going too slow
Hahahah, the Seahawks are the new 2008 Mariners!!
by seattlebruin on Mar 8, 2010 9:56 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Don't make promises you can't keep.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 8, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
He's sitting next to a plant.
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Mar 8, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I can see him angrily tearing it apart.
Hands at first, and then getting the teeth in just for effect.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 8, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
WOOO! He is working out with Mazzone
by seattlesundevil on Mar 8, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
What disgusts me is that I'm starting to hate Tebow less with every passing day.
He’s supremely talented, physically. He has an insane work ethic and seems to be pretty bright. Now if only someone will teach him to throw a fucking football.
However, Alex Smith also looked amazing in an Urban Meyer offense, is bright, seems to have work ethic, and still sucks. Yes, that’s it. Alex Smith. Alex Smith. I can feel the anger rising.
Hand size -
Alex Smith: 8 1/4"
Tim Tebow: 10 1/8"
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 8, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
I think it's mostly a hand size problem.
People with bigger hands just do better in the NFL. Look it up, it’s true.
I'm talking about a real midget though.
Sproles was only 5’7? but was solid, I agree. But I’m talking about a real midget, like 3’5
I'm going to have to disagree with your statement then.
Midgets can’t run and tend to not be all that strong.
No, getting leverage on other players is against the rules
Nothing says that you can’t throw a player
by Fuzz on Mar 8, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
His delivery is really really really slow!
The only way he will succeed is if he goes to a team that runs a lot, has the “Wildcat” or if he magically learns to speed up that release of his
Tebow's still a dick
I don’t care what anyone says, he’s an asshole.
Also fuck Verne Lundquist.
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by bluemax on Mar 8, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
My favorite part is how some other team is going to draft him, convert him to TE then have him throw the game winning TD against the Seahawks in SB 47 on a TE reverse.
by Robert on Mar 8, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This I also expect from you
I’ll help you carry the explosives to the hospital when you want to execute your plan
So I just bought a ps3 yesterday so I could play one in our living room (Fuzz is a douchebag and won't let us use his in the living room).
I never realized how long it could take to copy 16 gigs of music over a wireless connection.
No, it's because it's mine and I would like to use it whenever you guys are utilizing the TV in the living room
Thus making you a douchebag.
That’s a tale for another day, though.
But holy fuck this copying process takes forever.
Have to go with being hit by another driver.
It’s an on-going process that lasts 2-3 months until the insurance companies figure everything out. But, I can’t stand people who drive 30 mph no matter the speed limit.
OSCARS SUMMARY
Avatar should have won the Best Picture award. The movie was an amazing experience. The Hurt Locker was good, but I thought it fizzled towards the end and tried hammering home the point too much like the audience was stupid. Bigelow deserved Best Director, but I have a feeling Hurt Locker won a bunch of awards because it wasn’t a money-maker. Now that it has multiple Oscar awards, the movie will have an increased DVD release sales, which seems to be the purpose of winning the awards.
Sandra Bullock was an easy call. I haven’t seen The Blind Side yet, but looking at the other nominees, Bullock was the only choice. Mirren and Streep have won the award and careers littered with recognition. The two other younger girls were unknowns and I don’t know if the Precious actor would have won because of her acting or because she was the only person who physically matched the character. Bullock defaulted into the award and she appeared to know that when accepting the award.
I haven’t seen Crazy Heart, but Jeff Bridges earned the award because of his career work. He has such a commanding on-screen presence with every character he plays. He is a great actor and it was his time to win. George Clooney was in a similar situation, but I guarantee he will win the award within the next 3 years. Although, Up In the Air was Clooney’s career character. It had to be a bit disappointing for him not winning.
The only other award I have a problem with is Avatar winning the Cinematography award. I didn’t see every film in the category, but I thought Sherlock Holmes had incredible cinematography. Avatar was mostly computer generated and I just don’t think it should have won with its small sets that didn’t add much to the whole 3D experience or movie. To me, Sherlock Holmes was much more impressive.
I couldn't disagree more with you about Avatar winning cinematography.
Sherlock Holmes was typical Guy Ritchie that has been done plenty of times before. Avatar changed the whole fucking industry which is frustrating cause I now have to figure out how to shoot 3D.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 8, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
3D has been around for years, so I don't think Avatar changed the industry at all.
It’s the greatest 3D experience ever, but that is because computer generated scenes turned 3D was what set it apart. Most of the movie wasn’t about cinematography, it was about computer graphics.
3D on that scale has never been around though.
Most of the 3D on films with live action tends to blow, if not all.
Motion capture shooting difficultly > Choosing a lens and shooting something that exists.
I’m going to waist a whole day getting into this if I don’t stop at that.
And I actually have a shoot today.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 8, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
I won't pretend to know as much as you about cinematography because I know it's your career and life.
But I thought Sherlock Holmes had amazing sets built for the movie. I didn’t feel the same way about Avatar. It is probably good I didn’t have a vote because I don’t know the details all too well.
My thoughts on the set thing is that just because the set is imaginary doesn't mean it's not there.
But then again maybe it does.
For me it was Avatar wasn't allowed to hide things with a lens blur.
Everything became a focal point – So its almost shooting 8 scenes in one.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 8, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
Have you watched Avatar NOT in 3D?
I ask because I wonder if your opinion would be different about the cinematography. I have only seen Avatar in 3D so I cannot say I have experienced it otherwise. What I want to know is if the 3D is what made the cinematography so amazing? And how much does 3D play into cinematography? I don’t know how 3D is captured, but I assume most filmmakers don’t do it because it can only be profitable on the big screen. So if Sherlock Holmes had been captured in 3D, would it have been deserving of the award?
This is a good point.
I’ll have to check it out non 3d when the Blu Ray comes out. I know BrianL saw it in non 3D first and was so amazed he went back to see it in 3D.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 8, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
3D was somewhat gimmicky before Avatar. Now a lot of DP's are thinking of ways to tie it in that makes sense.
So its not just a random axe flying across the screen. Basically capturing 3D you need a camera with 2 lenses trying to replicate the distance between the eyes. Something like this.
Sherlock in 3D would’ve been awesome.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 8, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not going to say Sherlock Holmes doesn't have a cool feel because it does.
But to me its like every other Guy Ritchie movie and wasn’t as impressive as Snatch was.
But shooting motion capture is a bitch.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 8, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
I'm still left thinking
that we differ about this. I think that you feel the award should go to the best technical achievement in cinematography… you keep talking about what’s “hard” to do. For my money the greatest achievement in recent cinematography was City of God. But not because any of it was hard to shoot… just because the film was stunningly artistic. It was like seeing the work of a favorite photographer turned into a movie.
The scene where this photo comes from is (to me) the best cinematography of the year.
A parallel example:
If I loved things just because they were hard to do… I’d probably listen to more metal. Instead, I listen to a lot of slowcore… choosing the right 4 notes is more interesting to me than the virtuosity of cramming in 64.
"stunningly artistic" is exactly why Avatar is better.
Hurt Locker did nothing special that separated it from War movies in the past. Cinematography is a technical award. Lighting/Color Grading/ Matte Painting etc…. All go into creating the perfect shot and its the creative vision behind the camera that create these moments.
Its kind of the same as photography. How much photoshop work until its no longer a “photo” – This is one of the best photos I’ve ever seen. But drew a ton of backlash when it was discovered that it was staged. Even if it was staged it was a creative vision that was masterfully executed.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 8, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sorry your choice of movie didn't win, but I spit water all over my desk
when I saw this line used as a reason to vote FOR Avatar: “[other movie] tried hammering home the point too much like the audience was stupid.”
Avatar had a clear point, but Hurt Locker did some things they didn't need to do.
It’s like Martin Scorcese having the rat walk in front of the church at the end of The Departed. It was begging the audience to get the point of the movie. There’s a difference.
The only difference I see is that Avatar wasn't clever enough to dream of using a device like symbolism to deliver it's message
But it was just as heavy-handed in doing so, actually to a much greater degree.
I don't deny Avatar was trying to send a message.
But it didn’t go out of the way to deliver it. It’s a fine line what I am talking about. Every movie has a message it is trying to deliver. Some are abrasively up front about what they are trying to accomplish (Avatar) and others want the audience to internalize what they just watched (Hurt Locker). My problem comes when the movie that wants you to internalize the message does one or two abrasive things so you no longer need to internalize the message. The Hurt Locker became deflated after a couple abrasive things and it became just another war movie to me. Avatar’s clear message allows the audience to get wrapped up in the visual spectacle and not think so much.
Both movies were good, but I came away with the better experience with Avatar. The Hurt Locker was almost there, but the one or two things ruined the opportunity to internalize what I just watched, even though that is what it was trying to accomplish. Avatar accomplished its mission better than The Hurt Locker. I guess this is a better explanation to Marc of my choice for Best Picture.
I kept imagining writers meetings in which they tried to eliminate all traces of 'symbolism' or 'allusion' from the script.
You want to show that the Na’vi have a connection to nature? Make them connect to nature with their connectors!
You want to say that the mineral is rare and hard to get? Call it ‘unobtainium!’
You want to show the unthinking/idiotic nature of the human military contractors? Give them lines like… every line of dialogue they had! (“C’mon ladies, let’s bring the pain!!!” “Get some! RAaaaaa!”)
I think a movie that is clearly asking you not to think so much is treating you like you're stupid moreso than a movie trying to deliver a meaningful message that will teach you something
(Not that the Hurt Locker really did that very much, in my opinion).
I disagree.
Only because the movie that is asking you not to think so much has another mission in mind. For Avatar, it was the whole visual experience. For comedies, it is trying to get you to laugh and escape life for 2 hours. But for Hurt Locker, it was supposed to be a thinking movie. When a movie is trying to be a thinking movie and it takes out the thinking, the movie treats the audience as stupid.
I guess it is a difference of opinion.
I guess it is
All good movies should ask you to think, that’s why they have a plot and a message in the first place. If you completely disregard those elements you shouldn’t be winning movie awards. A movie that doesn’t ask you to think at all is a light show.
Why does every good movie have to ask you to think?
I can name an endless number of movies that are good that don’t ask you to think. In fact, what makes most movies good is that it allows you to escape from reality.
I phrased that wrong
All movies that win oscars should ask you to think in some way. I love me some bad movies but I’m not going to give them the pinnacle achievement of the industry when they aren’t achieving the core elements of the medium.
And movies allow you to escape from reality by drawing you into an alternate reality, And personally I can’t be drawn into a movie that tells me to just roll with it despite complete negligence of storyline.
That's fair then.
I just think Avatar’s experience was just so amazing I think it deserves Best Picture.
Someone's probably going to drag me to it over spring break :(
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
Nope.
I drag my feet on things like this. I have no intention of seeing it, but I know someone is going to twist my arm.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 8, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
I WILL BITCH ABOUT IT ANYWAY.
All those people getting all suicidal because Pandora doesn’t actually exist?
What the flaming fuck America.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 8, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
And that's part of my problem
with Avatar. I wanted it to be an escape from reality, but it’s terrible, anachronistic dialogue and plot holes kept jerking me back to reality. I liked it overall, as a cartoonish special effects extravaganza, but I can’t ascribe any higher meaning to it when it was a movie built around the effects. That’s a personal choice though, I prefer story-tellers to start with good writing, a good solid story. Avatar’s story was kind of a mishmash of others thrown together to display the effects.
And I agree with others who felt bludgeoned over the head with it’s message. Right up there with The Day After Tomorrow, which actually had a guy preaching from behind a pulpit to drive home the message.
by Craptastic-J on Mar 8, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
I guess I was able to get the message early and just take in the visual effects.
After I understood what was going on, I think I tuned out the whole message thing and just followed the story.
There is no way in any just world that Avatar was the best picture of last year
Best filmgoing experience of the year? Without question. Most awesome production? Sure. But there’s no excuse for that lame-ass script, and if it had won Best Picture I would have burned things down.
by pdb on Mar 8, 2010 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I was basing it off it being the best movie experience.
This is why it’s best I don’t ever have a vote in the Oscars.
DOUBLE PARKING!!!!!
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
I cannot believe this is for real. This is the funniest thing I have ever seen.
Link. (Warning: contains “dirty” language)
by .Taylor on Mar 8, 2010 10:25 AM PST reply actions
Today we find out that Scruffy doesn't actually read LL
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Something on the front page?
I get lost in subthreads.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 8, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
It's in a main post.
His last Sabermetrics 101 one in fact.
by Mariner John on Mar 8, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
I would like to reflect on this poll and say that it's strange more people get frustrated with people going 30 all the time than getting hit.
New Jersey is the worst place.
<a href="http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/new-jersey-women-hospitalized-after-bogus-butt-enhancements/19386930?icid=main|htmlws-main-n|dl1|link6|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aolnews.com%2Fnation%2Farticle%2Fnew-jersey-women-hospitalized-after-bogus-butt-enhancements%2F19386930" target="new">Women hospitalized after “doctor” put the wrong kind of junk in their trunks
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Fuck you autoformat.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 8, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
As the representative from NJ, I fully endorse this.
The last thing we need is the ugly-ass bitchy women getting even more cheap plastic surgery. Maybe this will keep a couple of them from doing so (either that or kill them), and NJ will be a better place.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
This is the best part.
Not only did the women suffer health setbacks in their attempt to gain shapely bottoms, the botched butt enhancements allegedly left them disfigured. A hospital source told the Post their backsides are so cratered and lumpy, they resemble “moonscapes.”
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
This hospital source may be the best person ever
either that or the worst
by seattlebruin on Mar 8, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Or maybe an amateur astronomer.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Who is your favorite under-appreciated drummer?
Meaning, no Mike Portnoy, Dave Grohl, Keith Moon, Danny Carey, and Neil Peart answers. I’m looking for somebody who doesn’t get very much attention, but is awesome nonetheless.
I have two: William Goldsmith from Sunny Day Real Estate and The Fire Theft; and Patrick Hallahan from My Morning Jacket.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 8, 2010 10:35 AM PST reply actions
Gavin Harrison.
If that is unacceptable then Chris Pennie of Coheed and Cambria and ex Dillenger Escape Plan drummer.
Yeah he really does.
The only drummer I have ever heard to use melody to an extent at the same time as he is playing his rhythm.
Chris Pennie is amazing.
Jesse Smith, ex Zao drummer, was one of my favorite drummers.
by seattle_since_81 on Mar 8, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Yuval Gabay.
Made noises like a drum machine without actually using one. Scientists remain baffled.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 8, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not coming up with exceptional sources on this, so...
And, proof that Mike Doughty was a crazy mofo back in the day, a live St. Louise is Listening, because in the future, we will all be Yuval Gabay.
(I don’t know what the deal with the cat is)
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Speaking of Sunny Day Real Estate I have been interested in listening to them but don't know where to start.
What’s their best CD?
They only have two?
But Diary.
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
They have 4
Diary, Sunny Day Real Estate (or the Pink album), How it Feels to be Something On, and The Rising Tide. If you like Sunny Day Reall Estate, I would also recommend checking out the band Mineral.
by seattle_since_81 on Mar 8, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Christopher Weingarten, before he left to write about music on the intertubes
But, and this may be cheating, Brian Chippendale of Lightning Bolt (he wasn’t listed!).
Another one would Jeremiah Green from Modest Mouse, whose last three records or so require no real drumming talent at all (quick! Which one did Green NOT appear on? I can’t remember either!). But Lonesome Crowded West/This is a Long Drive… had pretty great drum parts on them.
These guys right here
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Mar 8, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
And being a lefty drummer whose kit was set up righty.
Created some very interesting fills.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 9, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
I had to the reverse of what he did for three months when I tore my MCL.
It was weird getting used to using my left foot for the main kick pedal.
Someone has listed Up in the air as a "romatic comedy"
I’m not sure how I’d catagorize it, but I don’t think it would be as a romantic comedy.
I see the comparison.
Not in the shitty romantic comedy mold but I could see it being classified as such.
by Mariner John on Mar 8, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
I had to re-read that statement
I first though that you said that about “Up”, as it was the only capital letter in that, but then I realized what you were saying and it kinda made sense then. I’d agree most likely though
In the context I am working
“Romantic comedies are constructed around the ups and downs of a couple’s relationship—the initial antagonism, the misunderstandings, the bouts of jealousy, the conflicts of interest, until all is well at the end of the film. "
not so much.
People who brake for no reason on the freeway
It wasn’t too much of a problem in Seattle, but in Denver it’s remarkably awful
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
It's the "I have been going without hitting the brake for too long!" issue
Arizona drivers do it too. I don’t understand. Just because you aren’t hitting the brakes, doesn’t mean you are continually speeding up.
by seattlesundevil on Mar 8, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
This is how my mom drives.
She never lets her right foot rest. It’s always hitting either the gas or the brake even if she is averaging about 80 MPH.
To me the brake shouldn't be applied unless you have to slow more than 10 MPH in under whatever number of feet
Even if it means I have to ride the car in front of me’s ass for a couple seconds, I won’t brake to slow down unless there’s serious congestion.
Braking should mean “Holy shit you’re going to have to slow down a lot and fast” not “Need to adjust my speed down 2 MPH”
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Next time I want to slow down a fraction I'm going to do this with my latent telekinetic abilities rather than the brake
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Really it's like I have no idea how to drive a car
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
Quick test - which side of the road should you drive on?
The right side or the wrong side?
by seattlebruin on Mar 8, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If you aren't tailgating a ridiculous amount and you're not on a steep downgrade
There’s no reason why you shouldn’t be able to slow 4-5 MPH without braking or running into the car in front of you
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
And then you will be right up their ass and screwed if they decide to slow down.
Good plan
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Or you could err on the conservative side and maintain a safe distance between you and the leading car
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Well I think you and I may be arguing different things.
But yes this is the smartest thing to do. Always.
If you're a safe distance away then you shouldn't have to use your brakes unless you have to slow down fast is my point.
Right but then you are suddenly a non-safe distance away
That is a stupid place to put yourself
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
For a maximum of about 3 seconds
That’s well worth the risk of not scaring the crap out of the driver behind you, likely causing a far worse accident
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
That accident would be happening behind you
Plus, what a load of bullshit. Brake lights ahead don’t cause panic, they make people think ‘hmm, people are slowing down ahead, perhaps I should be cautious’ unless they’re completely retarded. In that case, the accident would be behind me and happening to idiots, so it’s fine.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
I guess the point is that you should never be so close that in order to not brake you have to put yourself within a dangerously close distance
If you do get dangerously close, sure, brake. If you’re driving correctly that’s likely a function of the car in front of you slowing down 7+ MPH
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
I guess you're right.
I just don’t think you should use your brake all the damn time for every slowing down situation.
I agree for the most part, and it's easy to avoid braking.
But eating up your safety zone just so you can be proud of never having your brake lights turn on is ridiculous.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
It's wasteful, and excessive braking leads to traffic jams
I hate to say it, but Corco is right on this one – you shouldn’t brake unless you need to.
by seattlebruin on Mar 8, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
I don't really care about downstream traffic jams
There’s no reason to raise my chance of having an accident in order to make everyone else get to their location faster.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Which makes you an annoying driver
I get your point, but if the question is “What’s annoying for other drivers?”
That’s it
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
And I find people like you who think they're better drivers than they are pretty annoying
Because hey when you crash you cause traffic jams. Worse ones than are caused by braking to remain safe.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
That's just incorrect
What ends up happening is a sort of chain reaction. You brake, the guy behind you brakes slightly harder, and so on and so forth. Then you have a traffic jam and people dropping speed at a much higher rate than your initial tap, which makes accidents way more likely.
Read the opinion of any road engineer and you’ll find that the general consensus rear-endings are a LOT more likely to happen from unnecessary braking than people not braking, because people don’t generally not brake when it’s really necessary.
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
The reason being that when you tap your brakes
I don’t know how much you’re slowing down, so I’m going to brake a little bit more than you are to increase my following distance, and that continues all the way to the end. Your tap to reduce your speed .5 MPH will frequently end up being somebody braking 20 MPH 100 cars back.
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Really it's like I don't know anything at all about traffic dynamics
Do go on imagining that you know more about a field of engineering than I do.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I do believe you know about traffic dynamics
I also know that it is FACT that braking on the freeway is dangerous. You will not find a traffic (not biostructural) engineer that believes in braking on the freeway unless extremely necessary. Sorry.
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Do you know why? They're systems engineers
Do you honestly not understand that individual driving is never about altruism?
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Right, but the question posed in this thread is
“What do you find annoying about OTHER DRIVERS?”
That has nothing to do with your self-satisfaction, that has to do with what other people think when they see you driving.
It’s not annoying to you, and sure, it’s probably even safer for YOU, but it’s annoying to other drivers.
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Ok:
I am annoyed by drivers who care more about causing traffic jams than their own personal safety annoy me because they’re clearly mentally unbalanced and shouldn’t be anywhere near something they can kill me with.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Fair enough
Although I’d argue I’m putting your personal safety ahead of mine by not braking if you’re the car behind me
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Which makes you irrational, unpredictable, and therefore dangerous
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Also brake lights brightness should be a function of pressure on pedal
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
I agree totally on this
If that happened, all problems would be solved
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
This would be cool, especially coupled with LED technology.
Brake lights that lit up in rings or bars based on how much braking was being done.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
This would require to much reasoning on behalf of other drivers.
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
I hate those 60mph to 0 in 3 seconds
Or being the ‘last in the pack’ of cars that suddenly stops. I’ve had to throw on my hazard lights a few times just to make sure the person behind me knew that I wasn’t just braking, but stopped.
I fucking hate you Mariners
I was driving with my dad to Eastern Washington
At one point, we were the last care in the traffic jam on a freeway and a semi came up behind us and stopped 5’ past the end of the car. Fortunately, we were paying attention and jumped out into the shoulder before it hit, but that was fun.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Yikes.
It amazes me how little most people utilize their rear view mirror. While I’m stopping I’m constantly glancing in mine to make sure the guy behind me is. If not, I’m getting out of the way.
I fucking hate you Mariners
I do the exact same thing
Any time I have to “panic-brake,” I am eyeballing my rearview to make sure I’ll be ok.
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Mar 8, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
If you don't have the reflexes of a 90 year old with Parkinsons you should be fine
Like Kirk said, you can always brake
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Because even if there is a bicyclist in that lane, they generally do not follow the rules of the road
I feel as if they are subject to the same laws that I am in my car. If there is a red light, then they must have to stop and wait just like me, not be able to go and cross the intersection that their own damn leisure. If i do this, I get ticketed, if they do it, they think nothing of it, and if they’re hit while crossing said intersection illegally, they never get in trouble, it’s always the driver who is traveling legally in his own direction
Yeah that's not a problem with the lane that's a problem with the person.
I haven’t seen many people run the red light on bikes here in Seattle either.
So you would rather have a biker going 15-25 miles per hour on the road with the car instead of in their own lane where they don't clog traffic?
That an in most cases in order to have a bike lane the city has to take away from lanes of travel, parking space or both to accomodate
You say that like it's a bad thing.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
You give drivers an extra lane and they would just have an extra lane to fuck everything up in
Nothing would change.
Good
People shouldn’t be driving in cities.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I fail to see how this is the lane's fault?
Not to open the bike wars again, but you can’t blame what some asshole do on every bicyclist.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Bike lanes done poorly drive me fucking batty as both a bicyclist and as a driver
The bike lanes that they had in Copenhagen are amongst my favorite things ever.
It's twofold bad
It’s bad because nobody checks for bikers, and then it’s bad because if I’m upstream from a left turning car, I can use that gap to pull out of whatever parking lot. If some jackhat comes flying around him in the bike lane, I lose that gap and am stuck waiting.
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Plus I don't get a chance to see if a car is coming around, so my visibility is reduced
That’s the only situation in driving I can think of where I have no idea if a car is going to come when I pull out
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Interesting turn of events on Road to The Show
Just tried to make an offensive player, literally the first pitch of my career I got hit by a pitch. Result, broken arm, 60 day DL.
I hit my first home run in the show
with Chone Figgins. Some scrub lefty reliever from the Marlins threw me a meatball heater and Chone took him deep. A wonderful 359 foot homer.
I’ve also homered with Garko and Byrnes and none of my homers has gone over 400 feet.
Oh, and I got the “out pitch” trophy with RRS against the Mets, that was cool.
And in annoying glitch news, I had a Mets pitch get an RBI single on me on a pitch where he didn’t swing the bat. He squared around to bunt, pulled the bat back and the game made the hit sound with the ball halfway to home plate. Then when it crossed home plate, with Niese still standing there holding his bat not swinging, the ball changed directions and landed for a single in RF.
I captured that video but haven’t had a chance to upload it yet.
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I don't think it counts if you hit if off Robert
by seattlebruin on Mar 8, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Well then my first was with Casey Kotchman.
The second was with Jack Wilson and he hit two that game.
I've never played The Show before dipshit
In my first game of 2k10 I hit a dinger off of Kirk with Griffey.
It's almost time for Book CLLub Part Deux!!!
I have to admit that after waiting until everyone else had read it, I finally got around to reading it and was pleasantly surprised.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
M's game on MLBN tonight at 7 pm
Tape delayed, but hey! it’s baseball!
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 8, 2010 11:20 AM PST reply actions
Aren't things supposed to be blacked out only when there is a conflict?
by msb on Mar 8, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Hmph.
MLB NETWORK SPRING TRAINING BROADCAST SCHEDULE
All times ET and subject to change. Check MLBNetwork.com for updates. Unless otherwise announced, games will be blacked out in each club’s home television territory.
by msb on Mar 8, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
My biggest Oscar gripe used to be
how it made getting around campus annoying for one day. But since I’m out of school I don’t give two shits about the Oscars.
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Fun find of the weekend
My local Von’s now carries Deschutes Black Butte Porter, and a Pale Ale from the same brewery.
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Mirror Pond is pretty okay, but nowhere near the perfection that is Black Butte.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 8, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
Black Butte is hands down the best of the six packs.
The rest of what Deschutes produces on a large scale (save for Obsidian maybe) is fairly standard.
However, their special editions are incredible—keep an eye out for those big bottles.
7500 to Holte - American footy fans are slightly unprepared
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 8, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Disagree!
Red Chair and Cinder Cone (may it rest in peace) are both excellent.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 8, 2010 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
Red Chair is not a six pack, non?
And yes Cinder Cone is dead which is why it is not on there.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 9, 2010 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
Red Chair is/was a six pack.
I just bought one last month, though I think it’s a seasonal, no?
angels fan in seattle
I have a sixer in the fridge as we speak
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 9, 2010 12:11 AM PST up reply actions
Huh, I'd never seen it that way.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 9, 2010 12:36 AM PST up reply actions
Just knocked off one this weekend, terrific this year.
I heard the news about Cinder Cone but not Red Chair; very disappointing.
I can't stand Black Butte myself, but that is because I dislike porters and stouts.
Mirror Pond is perfection to me, but my tastes are my own on that one.
Fun find of the weekend
while looking for The Abyss at Whole Foods, I instead stumbled into Pipeline Porter (!!!!!!!!) which I thought was gone for the season. I cleaned them out of it.
by seattlebruin on Mar 8, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Also bought Bruery Trade Winds Tripel (excellent as always) and Russian River Consecration
by seattlebruin on Mar 8, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
My household bought a two liter of cider.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 8, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
I finally caught up with NPH's opening song.
We didn’t realize the show had started, and were still plating dinner :)
Just started listening to Frightened Rabbit.
They’re pretty incredible from what I’ve heard so far.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 8, 2010 11:44 AM PST reply actions
My car's transmission died this weekend.
It was a ‘94 Buick LeSabre. I’m on the lookout for another used car.
Things I’m looking for:
Better gas mileage (LeSabre got 17 city, 26 highway)
Comparable size (LeSabre had 109 cu. ft. of passenger area and a bench seat)
Hopefully made in ‘97 or later.
As cheap as possible. I’m not looking five-figures… I’m probably not even as high as $8k, but I may have to adjust that.
Any recommendations?
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Mar 8, 2010 11:44 AM PST reply actions
2001 Honda Accord...
102 cu.ft., 14 cu.ft.
Comparable, anyway.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Mar 8, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
109 passenger, 14 cargo (LeSabre was 17 cargo)
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Mar 8, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Fuck, I can't type.
Accord: 102/14, LeSabre: 109/17
first number is passenger, second is cargo. I’m done posting now.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Mar 8, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Finding a trunk as big as a Buick's is a hard feat.
Maybe one of the Accord wagons would work for you? (I’m actually looking at moving to an Impreza wagon, and I think they’re swell)
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I'm not hugely concerned about the trunkspace.
I need to be more judicious with my trunk use anyway. I just like having the room to carry people around without having a minivan. Also, if I need to, I can put junk in the back seat.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Mar 8, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Well damn!
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Mar 8, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
If your price range was about $2K higher you could get a great deal on an 06 Fusion, but given what you have to work with an early 00s Accord is almost certainly your best bet
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
I could be convinced, perhaps.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Mar 8, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
I can sell you a 1990 Honda Accord with low, low miles*!
*Only 190,000!
The blower motor doesn’t work, it burns oil like a bastard, and has oil in the spark plugs. The motor for the radio antenna makes hilarious noises, and it has an exhaust leak somewhere, so it’s loud as fuck. Other than that, it’s as good as new! Oh, and it has a moisture leak somewhere, so if you don’t park it in a garage, it gets a fuck-ton of moisture inside the car.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 8, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
I have a 97 Grand Am that has been very good to me for the price
Much, much cheaper than a Honda or Toyota and surprisingly not bad despite being 13 years old. Some minor electrical problems but that’s pretty much been it.
A Grand Am is a bit small
But a Grand Prix or Bonneville might be a good buy
I suppose the thing that tips the Accord is that the only car roughly the size of his LeSabre that can be had with a 4 cylinder (and therefore the insanely good gas mileage) is an Accord/Galant/Camry and the last two options suck.
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I love my 00 Galant.
Never had one issue, aside from the crappy OEM brakes.
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What's a reasonable place to sit/ticket price
for a Hockey game? I want to go to the Kings game this Sunday but it appears sold out (Ticketmaster isn’t finding me tickets anyhow) so I’m thinking I’ll have to go through Craigslist or something.
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My personal preference is in the corner to center ice, top of the lower level or bottom of the upper level.
Not sure what the conversion ratio is, but tickets like that are around $50-55/ea here in NJ for average opponents.
I always feel like I’m missing stuff when I sit on an end.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Let's rephrase that pricing for more than just the "Corner, bottom of upper level" that I had written before.
Lower level will usually go for 60-90 in a corner/around the end, same for upper level center.
So that’d put you somewhere around 50-90ea depending on how high and how center you want to be.
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You have to keep track of your comment count so I'll help you.*
*Note that I may only help you once or twice so if you miss your 30K comment, not my fault.
You’re at 29974.
I don't think 30,000th SBN comment is worth jack shit
30,000 LL comments though…
by seattlebruin on Mar 8, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
My money is on either 700 tiny Jose Lopez .gifs
or the most boring comment in the history of LL
by seattlebruin on Mar 8, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
IT'S NOT LOADING!
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Mar 8, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
MLB.com's spring training headlines make me laugh.
They act like these games mean something for the star players.
WOOOOOOO FFXIII SHIPPED YESYESYES
Forget housework, this weekend belongs to FF and FF alone.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Mine shipped, too.
I’m sure I’ll quit halfway through, as I do with every FF game, but whatever. Should be fun for a while.
I usually make it to the point where they let you roam around freely, and just never beat the final boss.
That’s every rpg-ish game I’ve ever owned, from 7th Saga to Fallout 3 (which I actually did beat, but had to browbeat myself for a month and a half into doing so). I just don’t want the game to end.
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That's exactly what happens to me
and what happened to me with FFXII. I’ve had the game for 3 months and haven’t finished it.
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I was so pissed that they cut me off at 99:99:99 in FFVII
I spent a good 200-250 hours just finishing every quest and leveling every player to 99.
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Stopped rolling the time.
I had no way of knowing what my true game hours were after 100.
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Damn son.
I have done many things in RPGs, including beating Emerald Weapon in the most ass way possible in FFVII, and nearly collecting all the rages in FFVI, but I have never, ever, played to over a hundred hours or leveled everyone to 99. It would be too easy that way. Knights of the Round pretty much makes the boss fight a cakewalk anyway.
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
I never even finished it, either.
It was a “level for the same of leveling” kind of thing, and I was between jobs and had no want to get another one right away.
In that span I also beat Chrono Trigger with every ending and collecting all the characters.
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I did that with Chrono Trigger, so I was a completionist insofar as that.
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
Well, there was only one optional character in Chrono Trigger.
Chrono Cross, on the other hand… my god that was difficult.
You could do it in three shots.
But would you WANT to?
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
I will say this about Chrono Cross
it had perhaps my favorite opening music of any of Squeenix’s games.
No kidding.
When I heard that I was SO excited to play the game. And that held true at least until I got through wandering around the world map for the first time, and it was all downhill from there.
I realize that most of the time when I think I feel like I want to play that game, I really just want to listen to the soundtrack.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
The soundtrack quite is underrated, there's a lot of good ones in that game.
Playing through it the first time I didn’t like it at all, but I listened to it sometime later and everything changed. Same thing happened with Final Fantasy 8 actually.
I love, love, love Final Fantasy 8's soundtrack.
Another great opening score.
I think Pip had an evolution for every innate?
I distinctly remember a Demon/Angel Pip. Maybe that was all.
Oh, and trap elements. I shamelessly used a guide to get them all.
HERETIC
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
I also think Chrono Trigger has become wildly overrrated
thanks to internet fan boys. I can’t even touch that game anymore.
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I wouldn't disagree.
There were aspects of it that I liked, though, like how despite its fairly linear gameplay, it seemed to inspire this sense of cause and effect like your actions truly mattered, a relative revelation at the time, and the combat system with the use of double and triple techs was also rather clever in its execution. It would be great if you could actually position your characters instead of having them arbitrarily stuck to one spot unless they were also performing some action.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
I was saying that half for effect :\
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
I know, I've talked to those people.
I saw some virtues in it, but in comparison to CT, the vision seemed not nearly as realized, particularly with the “And Now We Fight Dragons!” sequence.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
CT has become
vastly over rated and CC vastly under rated.
Not that either is a horrible game by any means.
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The playing parts weren't particularly fun either
too high of an encounter rate, crap rewards for fighting, repetitive combo system (points for trying something different though), annoying grunts while fighting etc etc.
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Don't remind me. The Tower of Babil still brings nightmares
Fighting my way back to the top, only to miss a jump and fall to the beginning yet again.
You seem to have a problem with cutscenes.
First MGS, now Xenogears… maybe you just have a problem with horrible games.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
You shut your whore mouth.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
It's going to be awesome, it has to be.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I'll be giving it a try
I need to buy a PS3 and finish Dragon Quest 8 before that happens though
Skip Dragon Quest 8 and play
one of the delightful DQ remakes for DS. I recommend DQ5.
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I'm pretty close to the end already, but I'll check it out.
Thanks for the tip
Might as well finish it then
the remakes of DQ4 and DQ5 for DS are really top notch though.
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IM NOT LISTENING
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I can't believe you guys are excited about FF
Gold and silver remakes next week!
by Graham MacAree on Mar 9, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Also I want more Harvest Moon in my life
by Graham MacAree on Mar 9, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
This makes me smile.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
I once skipped opening day in favour of playing HM64 on an emulator
by Graham MacAree on Mar 9, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
I have lost many days to HM, so I know the feeling.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Original SNES and GB
The original partially because the “night doesn’t pass until you sleep” programming oversight allowed you to completely clear the farm with nothing more than time investment, and if you played your cards right you could be married and have a fully expanded farm by the end of the first week.
GB was the original one that I spent the most time on I think. I really ought to play one of the ones with actual features and a variety of things to do. It’s on my to-do list.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
The 64 one is ridiculously amazing
The series has expanded a lot since then and I haven’t really touched it but oh my god that game.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 9, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
I think I know where my spring break is going then.
I intended to get another game of Civ IV going, but I can put that on the backburner.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
Liveblog your little guy's life
It’ll be amazing
by Graham MacAree on Mar 9, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
This is a fascinatingly bad idea.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
I've wasted soo much time playing Harvest moon.
Played SNES, 64, Back to Nature, the one on GC, and both of the Wii ones.
Not only that, I also got my lil sis and two cousins hooked on the series.
Look into the Rune Factory series
Rune Factory Frontier in particular. I heard the DS ones are good, but I haven’t played them yet.
I probably shouldn't
It’s like giving crack to a guy in rehab
by Graham MacAree on Mar 9, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
DO NOT GIVE
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 9, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Don't give video games.
Feed crack to the little crazy if you so desire.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 9, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
You better not start defending Tactics: Advance.
That was one of the worst programmed games I’ve ever played.
It’s only redeeming feature was that the goal of the game was to blow up the world, making your friend a loser and your brother a cripple again in the process.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
The plot of FFTA was more comprehensible
than FFT! If they’d made the AI less stupid it would’ve easily trounced FFT.
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But I liked FFT nearly getting banned for being too heretical.
Besides, FFTA AI was up there in the top reaches of stupidest AI I’ve ever encountered. They’d have a long way to go to just improve it a little.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
You know
it makes perfect sense that you like Pokemon. I bet you are one of those crazy EV/IV min maxxers.
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I haven't played those games in years
but God I loved Red/Blue growing up.
The DS one I tried was reaaaaally good.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 9, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Dammit stop tempting me
I’ve already lost a good chunk of 2010 to video games.
Actually, no
I stopped playing before competitive battling really came into being and started again recently when I accidentally walked into the DS section of Target’s electronics department. :(
by Graham MacAree on Mar 9, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
It seems like that kind of thing would be right up your alley
Its a level too deep for me. I never finished Diamond or whatever the DS one was. The pacing and frame rate were too slow.
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They must have fixed both of those in the follow up
And yeah, I do find the crazy depths of battle tactics and strategies really interesting. I’m weird.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 9, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
The specific configurations to pull out surprise combos are neat
Doing the work to get those combinations? Less neat.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 9, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure why I found this, since I haven't played Pokemon in maybe 10 years,
But this is a ridiculously sweet guide that gives you the stats and battling suggestions and a bunch more stuff.
Stop raping my hopes.
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I refuse to read any reviews/previews/etc because I want it to be good or bad on its own terms.
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In this case they serve a function.
It sounds like an entirely different direction for the series (linear, adventure). Dammit I don’t want drastic innovation, I want iterative improvement!
After the MMORPG crap, I'm just going to be happy this one is single player.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Yeah, me too.
But based on the reviews, I’m thinking about just getting Fable 2 (19.99!) instead. Anyone play that one? Thoughts?
Meh.
FF has been mostly dead to me since IX. VIII should have done the trick though.
I’m still pissed about X taking away the Chrono developers too.
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't play it, obviously.
Kind of opposed to subscription games for some reason.
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
Okay then.
So X was the one with the effeminate lead character?
(badumpish)
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
If you like X you'll like XIII
If you didn’t like X you won’t like XIII its that simple.
Its very much like FFX in game structure just with less side content.
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When the hell do single game tickets go on sale?
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 8, 2010 12:39 PM PST reply actions
That link just takes me to Facebook. Do you still have one?
I was serious about taking one if one is still available.
Looking back, I see that RC actually volunteered to take them back at the end of February when I first whined about the overpurchase
so I think she gets first refusal…
I now feel like a tease, as well as a shill.
I do also have tickets for more than opening day.
by msb on Mar 8, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
I'll let you know about those other tickets.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 8, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
Ok, apparently there is some confusion re: the tix I keep yammering on about.
Because of stupidity occurring on the flex pack early sale day, my game-day partner and I ended up with a second set of six-pack of tickets for the exact same days. RC has now staked her claim to the two extra opening day tickets. I do however still want to sell at some point:
Seattle Mariners vs Texas Rangers Sun, May 2, 2010 1:10 PM
Section 119 Row 18 Seat 9-10
Seattle Mariners vs Chicago Cubs Thu, June 24, 2010 12:40 PM
Section 129 Row 38 Seat 5-6
Seattle Mariners vs Minnesota Twins Sun, August 29, 2010 1:10 PM
Section 119 Row 19 Seat 3-4
Seattle Mariners vs Cleveland Indians Sun, September 5, 2010 1:10 PM
Section 119 Row 18 Seat 14-15
Seattle Mariners vs Oakland Athletics Fri, October 1, 2010 7:10 PM
Section 119 Row 18 Seat 910
by msb on Mar 8, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
I'm interested in at least 1 game
but I do not have, nor do I want, a Facebook page. Is there another way we can work out the details?
Somebody just passed a twenty dollar bill from 1934 through my store
Does anybody know of any sites that can tell me if it has any worth above face value?
According to this website, it has very little value above face unless it is in pristine condition
http://www.webuyoldcurrency.com/federalreservenotes1928.htm
Might still be a cool thing to have though
by seattlebruin on Mar 8, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Weee Mike Salk is taking exception to my Rob Johnson tweets on the air.
I think he took a shot at acblue too.
You're a celebrity now.
Wanna bang?
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 8, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
This seems more unwholesome somehow with the period at the end.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
You caused that ruckus?
And was it in any way associated with the ass chewing Shannon Drayer issued? Sounded like Brock misquoted one of the players.
Not related to the Shannon thing
but I was the one who suggested that we replace Rob Johnson with a motivational CD, a blankie, and a teddy bear.
Yeah! Nice one! Man they didn't like that, and msb already posted it but the guy that "knows catchers" ahahahaha
That’s about all the non-baseball game radio I can handle, but the bear biting the grannies fingers off was funny.
Anyone know the specifics about early ticket sales?
There’s something about a code they email to you if you register for an account. I’ve done that, so have they already sent the code? Or does that happen a few days before the 13th?
They send an email shortly before, with a link to the site, and on the appointed day & time, if you click it, it puts you into the sale pages.
At least that’s how the 6-pack pre-sale works.
all too well, in some cases.
by msb on Mar 8, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
Not that I have ever heard.
of course, they haven’t BEEN to the play-offs since we’ve been buying them.
by msb on Mar 8, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
Over the last couple of years I've started noticing a very distinct Pacific Northwest accent.
I was born and raised in California before moving to Bremerton when I was about 12. Therefore, I speak very California and am able to hear a distinct accent from most speakers in this area. The words I notice the most:
Both – Pacific Northwesterners tend to add an “L” sound into this word, kind of like “bow-lth” (almost like “bowl”), where I say “boh-th”.
Bag – Pacific Northwesterners tend to elongate the “A” sound so that it sounds closer to “beg”.
Leg/Egg – Again, an elongated sound, so it sounds more like “laig” or “aig”.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 8, 2010 2:58 PM PST reply actions
I moved up here from Florida and didn't really notice a difference
I occasionally hear a hint of Canadian accent in people from Bellingham or closer to the border, but that’s about it
Words that start with Tr Train and tree, have kind of a ch sound to it as well. I only know this from a linguistics class I took.
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
I've never heard it at home but the Northern Irish definitely say "Tchuesday" and "Tchuna"
“Tchree” for Northwesterners though…hmm….
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 8, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
It is far less pronounced, and I only notice if I listen for it.
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
I think I am picking it up.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 8, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
There seems to be one.
I prefer to think we’re normal and everyone else is just weird, but the Seattle accent does make an appearance in the 21 accents video.
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
I heard somewhere that PNW folks speak the most phonetically perfect english in the country
As in, they have no accent.. Not sure where I heard this though.
But in the spirit of this, I say “ornch” for orange as in “A glass of ornch juice please”
by seattlesundevil on Mar 8, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
I would believe this.
As an aside, does anyone know the regional origin of the people who put an R in Washington, as in Warshington?
My grandma does that, but she’s lived here most of her life. I think she grew up in Edmonton. But then I was talking to a friend of mine a few minutes ago, who grew up in Pittsburgh and said she knew people there who would do it.
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Most of the people I know who do that are from the sort of Southern Ohio/West Virginia region- I guess you would call it Northern Appalachia
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I could buy that.
There’s still no explanation for my grandma’s pronunciation then. They were mostly central to western Canada going back forever. Well, whatever…
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
I'm totally guessing here
It might be that the primary immigrant population (say Germans (I’m not sure if it’s German)) of Edmonton and Appalachia are similar and the pattern developed in isolation just because of linguistic tendencies in the transition from German to English.
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Also, and this is strange, out here in Wyoming
We have a “Chief Washakie” who has gotten lots of stuff named after him, and a not-insignificant portion of the population pronounces it “Warshakie”
So it might be a rural interior development of some kind that isn’t entirely predictable.
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Or the Germans are secretly everywhere, waiting to strike.
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
Does your Grandma say
War-shington (as in War (like the word) shington) or W-ah-rshington (hard A)?
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
I think it's closer to the first.
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
My mom says W-ah-rshington
and she’s lived here forever. I’m not sure where she picked that up. I don’t know anybody else who does that like she does.
She is consistent, though, when she’s doing laundry, it’s a load of warsh.
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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Mar 8, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
I had a high school history teacher from Pennsylvania who pronounced George Warshington.
We gave him so much trouble wouldn’t even write “Washington” on tests. It was always “What year did George cross the Delaware?”
The Northwest has a weird bouncy quasi-Norweigian liltiness to it.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
I've never heard that. Lots of foreign people were confused by my accent because it didn't have
“enough” of a bouncing lilt that they associate with American accents (which foreigners categorize as Southern or New York).
It may also just be that I talk boringly.
"It may also just be that I talk boringly."
I think that may be the defining NW accent trait.
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
My mother, who was born & raised in Bremerton, said 'die-ah-per".
I have never figured out what influence produced that diphthong.
by msb on Mar 8, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
My fiancee, born and raised in Southern California, says I have a bit of an accent.
I personally don’t notice any difference in speech between here and the Northwest, other than the previously mentioned bits of Canadian influence.
I make fun of my brother all the time for saying "beg" for "bag" but he hears no difference.
Linguistics seems very interesting to study to me.
My wife hears no difference either.
It’s pretty hilarious.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 8, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
My ex used to insist that I said shoe funny.
Like “choo”
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 8, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
I used to pronouce pillow and milk as
“pellow” and “melk”, though I’ve corrected that for the most part.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Mar 8, 2010 3:48 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Hmmmm
I’ve always thought that the ‘bolth’ phenomenon isn’t a regional accent, it’s one of those weird things like “warshington” where it affects a number of people in many, many regions.
I’ve not heard the beg/bag thing…. I’ll listen for it, though.
The one that I’ve heard a lot, though don’t know if it’s regional or just another quirk is roof. I say roof with a long oo sound, but many people say it something like ‘rough.’ Or maybe half-‘rough’ and half-‘rəf’.
Congratulations.
You just contributed the ~third instance instance of a schwa in Lookout Landing history.
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
-instance
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by JY on Mar 8, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
WRONG!
My use of a schwa in describing the exact same linguistic tic did not appear by searching for the schwa on its own.
But lookie here! I’m repeaty!
Fine then.
I can see you being a repeat offender on the schwa too.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 8, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
I grew up in Florida (with family in Kentucky), lived in Spokane, go to school in Milwaukee.
So I’ve experienced a few accents, and I really don’t hear anything unusual in the average born and raised Northwesterner. I think a lot of an irregularities just trace back to where your parents and family are from. Pronouncing bag more like beg is classic Midwesterner (bayyyyyyg).
I’m usually a blend of southern and normal (depending who I’m around and what I’m saying) and I have had people comment a few times that I have a “west coast accent,” but coming from people out here, I figure that just means I don’t talk like a Midwesterner or an East Coaster so they needed a box to put me in.
My fiancee says weekend like "weak-and"
I flip her crap for it all the time. I love it because when she says it, I mock her, and then she re-pronounces it correctly and says that she doesn’t hear a difference. Once she’s made aware, she corrects herself.
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
My whole life is a lie.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 8, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
Wait, what?
Caught isn’t supposed to sound like Cot? What is it supposed to sound like then?
If there are, they'll probably be designed to randomly brake 3-4 miles per hour
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by Corco on Mar 8, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You don't say it that way you weirdo.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 9, 2010 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
Possibly the most interesting part of this is: he probably does
Your brain just doesn’t allow you to hear it that way.
The Smiths, natives of Philadelphia, have settled in California and are raising twins Dawn and Don. When Mom or Dad calls either child by name, both kids answer. Even though the parents are pronouncing "Dawn" and "Don" distinctly, the children can’t seem to hear any difference. Why not?
The Smiths’ experience highlights a dialect difference between the western states and much of the East. In the parents’ Philadelphia dialect, the names Don and Dawn are pronounced with different vowel sounds. (When saying Dawn the lips are slightly rounded; when saying Don, they are more open.) In California, where the kids learned to speak, Don and Dawn are pronounced the same, as are similar pairs such as caught ~ cot and Pauley ~ Polly. The twins’ speech illustrates a process called "merger," in which two sounds become one. That merger of Don-and-Dawn’s "o" and "aw" sounds has become widespread throughout the West. The Smiths’ case shows that people with the merger not only don’t distinguish between the vowels in their own pronunciation but also don’t hear the difference in the speech of others
Fascinating.
Although I do hear most of his weird pronunciations. I wonder what makes us hear some and not others?
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 9, 2010 12:36 AM PST up reply actions
It's a pretty rare thing I guess
Like we hear the vowel change in a Minnesota accent that has them saying bat like we say beat. For some reason our brains have been conditioned to ignore this particular difference.
I love stuff like this - particularly regarding the Pacific NW Accent here are some cool things I've seen about it.
Global Accent Database: http://accent.gmu.edu/browse_maps/namerica.php
Pacific Northwest Accent : Seattle Times;
NPR broadcast (quicktime) – CREAKY VOICE! ; (Here’s the transcript)
UW;
Wikipedia
The UW people (in the NPR report) seem to think that the Pacific NW accent will get stronger as time goes on and there are more second and third generation Pacific NW people. What do you think?
Another funny thing – my dad, who grew up in Wisconsin, has lost almost every trace of his Wisconsin accent in the bit over a quarter-century that he’s lived in the NW. The difference is striking when we visit his family (he’s the only one who moved away).
Also, do you say soda, pop, or coke? I say “soda,” even though I’m from the Seattle area, which is strong “pop” country – probably because both my parents are from “soda” areas of the country. Here’s this from Strange Maps: The spread of “pop” roughly coincides with the “Greater New England” cultural current that David Hackett Fischer talked about in Albion’s Seed – (amazon has more).

My mom has pretty much lost all traces of her Minnesota accent, also
I never remember her having an accent, so she probably lost it fairly quickly because she moved out here when she was 19 and had me when she was 27. The best, though, is when she visits with her 2 sisters because she can pick it back up pretty quickly.
by seattle_since_81 on Mar 9, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
This.
My mom is the same way, has hardly any Michigan accent (says oil as uhl and boil as buhl) but when she is around her sisters? Totally different.
by seattlesundevil on Mar 9, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
My dad has no real Oklahoma/Kansas sound
but as he has gotten older, when tired, traces come back
by msb on Mar 9, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
It still gets me weird looks here.
That and sack over bag.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I have started just referring to soft drinks as "coke"
But I am a pop guy when I specify
by seattlesundevil on Mar 9, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
That means you're a closet southerner!
I used to be pop, but consciously changed to soda because I found the word ‘pop’ sort of weird.
I did exactly the same thing
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by tootthekazoo on Mar 9, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
I say pop and sofa.
In our family we had divergent pronunciations of envelope vs onvelope and pecan vs pecon
My grandfather always made me pronounce the nut pecon
because the peecan was what he kept under the seat of the car in case he couldn’t find a rest area.
I think, as our pecan farming family representative, I can verify that it is, indeed, "pecon".
Unless you are on the other side of the Mississippi.
I figured SE Missouri would be more "Other" than it is.
Everyone I ever met there (and I worked at a restaurant for a while) would ask for a “cola”.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
This hurts my brain
By phonetic symbols.
ɒ lot, odd, wash
ɔː thought, law, north, war
Lot and thought are not supposed to rhyme perfectly, and if you have the conversion you won’t distinguish that.
Or even better, note that the vowel symbol for law and north is the same
The oh sound became ah for certain words. So caught is supposed to sound more like how we’d pronounce coat than cot, I guess.
Wait how do law and north not have the same vowel sound.
You guys are uncivilised brutes.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 8, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Here's one for you: do 'pawn' and 'porn' have the same vowel sound?
by marc w on Mar 8, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Yes
Although when around you guys I try to Americanise ‘pawn’ when, say, giving directions
by Graham MacAree on Mar 9, 2010 6:45 AM PST up reply actions
Yes. Smart.
Let’s just say that this particular one has caused some misunderstandings in the w household.
This is giving me flashbacks to my final semester of college
when I took a linguistics class.
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If I may nerd out for a moment, I think linguistics absolutely fascinating.
I really hope I can take some courses in it just for fun sometime.
Way too early in the morning for this. It needs more examples.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 9, 2010 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
Ok now you're just freaking me out.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 9, 2010 12:35 AM PST up reply actions
Aron v Aaron?
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 9, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 10, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
I received shit from my friend (who was named Erin, and was from New Jersey) about the way I pronounced her name.
I say it the same way as “Aaron”, and she couldn’t understand why I did that.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 9, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Curses!
I’ve been sitting here at my desk mouthing out all these different words that are supposed to sound the same, and am starting to find out the differences. This will now drive me crazy for a while as I start to learn new ways of pronouncing my words
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by tootthekazoo on Mar 9, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Jim Moore only saw the first third of Avatar as one of his five year olds got frightened.
Calabro then asked what had frightened him, rather than asking what seems the more obvious question, “you took a 5 year old to Avatar??”
I was 5 or 6 when Jurassic Park came out,
and I saw it at the theatre with my mom and dad. I was sitting on my dad’s lap and watching what I thought was the coolest movie ever made, and I got SO pissed when my mom kept trying to cover my eyes during the scary-ish parts. ("MOM! It’s only a movie!) But when the T-Rex got loose during the tropical storm and started eating people, my mom got so freaked out that she began instinctively to push me off my dad’s lap so she could sit on my dad’s lap herself.
In conclusion, it probably depends on the kid, but a PG-13 action movie shouldn’t be off-limits, period, for young children.
It's strange the M's are blacked out on tv but not the internet
Particularly since it wasn’t broadcast on Seattle radio or tv
It's not blacked out for me.
I wonder why, but don’t mind at all.
by seattle_since_81 on Mar 8, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
My problem with Bad Company 2 is the framerate
I love how you can blow just about everything up, you can even take the whole building out. I’ve been waiting for a FPS to do that for years. But sometimes it’s hard to enjoy it because the framerate is complete shit during the more hectic moments.
And I have thus far been unsuccessful at getting the multiplayer to work, but that will probably get sorted out.
The EA servers have been kicked in the ass.
And they’re working on it.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 8, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
I just finished watching the SNL from this past Saturday, Zach Galifinakis with Vampire Weekend.
I thought it was pretty good. I though the good sketches were the Bidet sketch and Pageant Talk, for which Mr. Galifinakis shaved his beard. This was the first time that I have heard Vampire Weekend and enjoyed them. Anyone else watch it? Thoughts?
by seattle_since_81 on Mar 8, 2010 5:19 PM PST reply actions
I watched parts of it.
The bidet was good, as was his piano/comedy intro. I thought his comment about the kid that slept with his teacher dying from high fiving was hilarious.
The pianio/comedy is what his usually stand-up is like
If you get a chance, check out Live at the Purple Onion, you should be able to find a couple decent quality versions online.
Yep.
and his stand up is hilarious. Luckily, he doesn’t seem like a comic that will change anything to his style just because more people have seen him due to the Hangover.
by seattle_since_81 on Mar 8, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions
"I drank so fucking much last night, my liver wrote his congressman." Hahahaha!
His stand up is 10 times as funny as The Hangover-which I really liked.
Huh.
All the bats become pink in MLB The Show 10 on Mother’s Day.
It's voluntary
any player that wants to can do it.
by pdb on Mar 8, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
But if you don't, you're a racist.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Mar 8, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
Then you need to read more Douglas Adams.
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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Mar 9, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I've just been playing exhibition games against different teams
I started RTTS and played a weeks worth of games but when I saw that every team had 2 guys on the bench and 15 in the bull pen I decided to not keep at it.
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Yeah...when I'm able to trade Jason Vargas and Doug Fister for Tim Lincecum, you know the AI still needs work.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Trade AI has always been bad
but this year the roster management AI seems worse than normal.
Although I remember playing FPS Baseball Pro on my PC back in the day and the CPU would never rest its players so they’d all get exhausted and be easy to beat.
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This should be a crime.
If you didn’t play the first one you shouldn’t get a beta code :)
Is it awesome?
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 9, 2010 8:35 AM PST up reply actions
It seems amazing so far. I'm not used to the game mechanics yet, though.
I played the shit out of Warcraft III, but the focus of Starcraft is much more on macro and I’m not familiar with the buildings/units yet so I get destroyed by people with some sense of the game.
Starcraft is macro?
I guess compared to WC3, but its still a clicks per minute game.
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Not yet, they're going to try to balance it a bit before it hits shelves, but I'd guess July or August.
From the things I've heard
I’d be absolutely SHOCKED if it came out in the summer.
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Ya but Starcraft 2 was suppose to come out 2 years ago.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 10, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
The drivers that annoy me the most
are the ones that speed up as soon you come to a passing lane where you could pass them, then hit their brakes as soon as the passing lane disappears.
This is one of the problems with passing lanes that I guess can't really be fixed
is that if you’re on a mountainous road, they tend to be built in the spots where there’s a brief flat, straight spot. The driver that goes painfully slow around corners but is comfortable on straightaways will suddenly gun it because “hey, the road’s straight,” forcing you to have to go really, really fast to pass him.
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Yeah, and I have a VW New Beetle that hugs the corners but I can't out accelerate a V8 on the straight stretches.
If I do manage to get by they will never see me again because I don.t have to slow down at the end of the straightaway,
What gets my goat is corners on the interstates are designed for the speed limit, so when people slow way down its infuriating.
Barring inclement weather of course.
So. yours is not being read by the neighbors, after all?
by msb on Mar 9, 2010 6:42 AM PST up reply actions
That package ended up being something I had ordered many manys ago that I forgot about that arrived two months late.
So no Mariner annual or MLB 10 The Show yet sadly!
by EnglishMariner on Mar 9, 2010 7:33 AM PST up reply actions
The European Issaquah?
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 9, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
They are out of stock, and I don't see anymore on order for any Costco in Washington
Boo! I wish I would’ve realized that they were being sold through Costco.
by seattle_since_81 on Mar 9, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
I forgot that the magazines are not a stock item
so they won’t show as having any on hand at the warehouses. I will probably be making a purchase today.
by seattle_since_81 on Mar 9, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Third Place Books on 65th and also Lake Forest Park both have decent sized stacks of them.
Prominently displayed, as well.
I love those stores.
They still have the cafe at the one on 65th? It was closed for a while during renovations
Greek restaurant now, took over some retail space but it's really good food.
They serve the bar downstairs as well. It’s a bit hinky how the two are separated yet mutually supportive, if the wait staff forgets to offer details don’t forget to ask about beer service in the restaurant, or available food not listed on the bar menu downstairs. There’s been a few changes since it’s reopened, ironing out the kinks and all.
So...
what was so special about “The Hangover”? I thought it was okay, definitely better than “Old School”, but not worthy of all the critical attention it received.
“Adventureland”, however, was fantastic.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 9, 2010 7:22 AM PST reply actions
I could only watch the Hangover a couple times, Old School, however, is one of my all-time favorites
But I really love Will Ferrell, so that could be it.
The Hangover was just a remake of “Dude, Wheres My Car?”
by seattlesundevil on Mar 9, 2010 8:16 AM PST up reply actions
Adventureland was a fun movie.
The Hangover was good, but I also did not get the hype. I’ve had a number of people say it is the best comedy the have ever seen. I thought Role Models was more amusing than The Hangover.
I thought "I Love You, Man" was better than "The Hangover" as well.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 9, 2010 8:21 AM PST up reply actions
Joebin.
I saw a dude with a gamertag of Joebin and laughed for a good 2 minutes straight.
by seattlesundevil on Mar 9, 2010 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
Indeed. By far the best part of that movie.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 9, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Don't touch it. Don't even look at it.
And don’t look at me.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 9, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Do we have to park this close? I can't be within 500 feet of a park or an elementary school
I thought Ken Jeong was hilarious also.
by seattle_since_81 on Mar 9, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
I laughed harder at the Hangover then any other movie when I saw it in the theater.
When I bought it and watched it a 2nd time – it hardly got a smirk out of me. For me I think it was the theater atmosphere.
“I Love you man” is amazing.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 9, 2010 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
Ahhh, spring.
Lary Stone has a blog post on Jason Heyward
by the way, only a few comments so far….
“And yet USSM and legions of bloggers following prospect insider treated Bob Fontaine like a God much like Jack Zduriencik is done today.
There was even talk by USSM authors that we couldn’t fire Bill Bavasi or fear losing Fontaine.
Fontaine is one of the biggest failures of a scouting director since Frank Mattox, and at least Frank drafted Adam Jones."
Fontaine actually wasn't all that good :\
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 9, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
We had so little to cling to though.
Precious, precious little…
I understand that.
Marc and I have had discussions about this in the past, and I think one of the few things preventing us from jumping in and collaborating on some sort of larger study of Fontaine’s draft methods while here is the fact that drafts are 90% failure even in the best of circumstances, and if you’re getting multiple major leaguers out of any of them, you’re making a killing.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 9, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
He had a pretty damn good draft in 2006
by Graham MacAree on Mar 9, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
Oh, the '06 draft was extraordinary.
I loved it even at the time. But it’s an instance where I think you could make a case for the same method used in all of his drafts just happening to check out that one time.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 9, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
"You know" might be his new phrase.
He says it quite a few times when talking about Milton Bradley, it cracked me up. Funny dig at Carlos Silva, also.
by seattle_since_81 on Mar 9, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
It's Ozzie Time!
@OzzieGuillen Today is the birthday of one of my favorite people ever frank you are the best happy birthday my great friend and is not thomas
Even better ...
he added it in Spanish too “Hoy es el cumpleano de una persona muy especial en mi vida frank mi pana mano derecha dios me lo cuide y le de salud a mi pana mi gordo”
which Babel Fishes out to: “Today my velveteen is the cumpleano of a very special person in my life Frank right hand God takes care of me and him of health velveteen my fat person”
Apparently, pana is also a slang word for 'close friend'
“Also, pana, in Venezuela and other countries of central and south america is: Amigo, Compañero, friend, partner, socio, compadre, etc. Pana comes from the english word: “Partner”, that you must know. If you see the pronounciation of partner, you will see that it is something like pana in spanish. "
Hey, you MLB.TV Dual-Screeners (I know JI had this problem at least)
This does the flash hacking for you. I’d give a review, but I don’t have my office set up yet.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
That does suck.
Oh, well, I guess I’ll just have to KVM the other out when I get my office done instead of hooking both screens to my main box.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
What annoys me is this happens on my Synergy input sharing setup as well.
Soon as I mouse over to my second machine Flash loses its focus.
SUCCESS!
I did a complete uninstall of Flash, reinstalled, and then copied over the modified DLL and that did the trick. Just tested it with the mlb.tv demo as well and it’s working correctly.
So is that with the tool, or just hacking it on your own?
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
The tool doesn't work with 64-bit operating systems
but I’ve got a solution that doesn’t require a hex editor. I went ahead and posted it as a fanpost.
Everyone around me is freaking out about their midterms
and I’m listening to “Shit Luck” by Modest Mouse on repeat.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
Quarter schedule? Bummer.
I’ll be on Spring Break. And working. Because I have no money.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 9, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with this
The quarter system is far superior I think. You have less work and you don’t have to retain as much useless information for as long
I disagree
I did some college stuff at a quarter system place and some at a semester place and the quarter system school always felt like they rushed to cover as much material as possible and you didn’t get the full understanding.
Of course this was also CC vs a University so that could be it.
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University in the US: much too easy.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 10, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Even in the rare cases where the curriculum is hard
the grading is disturbingly lenient.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
We had one week per year where we had exams
Each exam was worth 100% of the class in question.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 10, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
I bet reading week was interesting for you.
If you even had it.
Exams are usually only 40% of the grade here, and that’s enough to get most people to panic.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
I sure as hell wouldn't have.
I’ve got the worst case of exam/test anxiety ever.
One of my high school teachers was so baffled by one of my physics exams she kept me after class to work through a set of problems to see if I actually knew the material or not. She was even more baffled by the fact I worked through those problems quickly and accurately.
I just lock up on exams and I’ve yet to figure out why.
It's funny
I used to have terrible anxiety issues and panic attacks growing up and for the most part, I seem to have outgrown all of that. The only thing that sets it off anymore is a goddamn sheet of paper that has “exam” written at the top.
I was pretty bad at tests in college
but I think a lot of it came from lack of preparation. I think if I had a huge test every week it would’ve prevented me from slacking. Maybe.
Or I would’ve flunked out even sooner.
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No, it's not a huge test every week
It was one week in June where they tested you on every class for the whole year
by Graham MacAree on Mar 11, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
WHAT.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 10, 2010 6:31 PM PST up reply actions
I would fucking hope so.
So, with scaling and whatnot, what % would generally qualify you for an A?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 10, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
70%
I once got a 25% on an exam scaled so that the highest mark went from like 45% to 75%
by Graham MacAree on Mar 10, 2010 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
Also you need at least a 50% average in a single year to qualify for post-grad stuff.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 10, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
But just one year total or just your senior year or what?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 10, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
2nd or 3rd year
I managed it in my third yayyy
by Graham MacAree on Mar 10, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
So on reflection
I think Heavy Rain might be the single most disappointing game I’ve played since Deus Ex II. Did anyone else come away from that feeling as underwhelmed as I did?
And to continue the subthread
What video game has disappointed you the most?
Good question
I’m not sure yet, but another recent game that disappointed me was Supreme Commander 2. The first was awesome but no one had a computer good enough to play it. The second is a confused mess.
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That's my answer as well
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Mar 9, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Every Sim City after 2K
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
With a dash of Shadowrun (SNES) thrown in.
I loved the paper RPG so hard, and was looking forward to the game so much when it came out.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
If you think that is bad
check out the recent Shadow Run for 360/PC. It makes the SNES/Genesis one look amazing.
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At least that one I had warning on, so I skipped.
The SNES one I didn’t have any reviews, and bought it on drop day.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I spent my allowance for a month on that stupid game.
That being said, in terms of monetary value as a function of age, Terra Cresta for NES was the best game ever at 8$ used to endless hours of playing time as an 8 yr old.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I thought the SNES version of ShadowRun was generally liked
albeit not as much as the Genesis version.
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I have no idea how much anyone else liked it, I just know I hated it.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Tough one.
Mega Man 8? or 7? There have been such clunkers throughout both series coming through in recent memory.
I might say FFVIII just because scaling enemies, consumable magics, and the whole GF storyline just bothered me.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 9, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
I'm going to have to keep thinking this one over.
I feel like throwing Fatal Frame II into the discussion here for how easy it was relative to the first one, and how it seemed to lose a lot of the intensity when rope guy wasn’t on the screen.
I think I would probably put Resident Evil 5 on this list if I had actually played it yet.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 9, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
FUCK
Resident Evil Code Veronica. Everyone told me that game was the shit and the dialogue and plot were just unforgivably bad. The only thing that sustained my interest was that the scarcity of ammo early on made it the hardest RE I had played to date, and I once beat 3 on Hard, killing The Nemmy every time I saw him, without saving once the whole way through.
For bonus points: most of the Castlevania games released between SOTN and Aria of Sorrow.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
I liked Circle of the Moon
it was awesome at the time, being one of maybe 3 GBA games worth playing.
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Not much replay value though.
I at least made it all the way through it on the first go, as opposed to Harmony of Dissonance, where I started saying “fuck all y’all” as soon as I started finding bosses that were larger versions of stock enemies.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
I thought it had more replay value than the subsequent chapters
because you could try the different “Classes” with their different challenges.
I think I’m done with DS Castlevanias, I got to the end but didn’t finish Portrait of Ruin and I barely played Ecclesia.
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I enjoyed Ecclesia for its combat.
The repetitive backdrops and lack of awesome items were an issue though.
Still like Dawn of Sorrow the best.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 9, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
I thought VIII was the best of the new-gen FF games.
Damn I loved that card game.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
On that note, I would spend hours finding my DS if they came out with a new FF sprite-based game.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I would buy a PSP.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
My brother and I discussed this awhile back
with all the retro remakes, how awesome would a MM9 type of revival for FF be.
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If you could take 8s gameplay
and put it on a story that didn’t annoy me I’d love it.
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I feel this way about FFX-2
I love the mechanics, but themes they wrapped the mechanics in were dumb.
50!
Really?
Scaling enemy levels? Magic that had to be stolen from enemies, which made your items stronger, but kept you from using it if you wanted to maintain that strength? Getting allowance for taking time out of your busy saving the world schedule to answer a dumb quiz every now and then?
I liked the weapon construction thing as a concept, but the rest, blah…
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by JY on Mar 10, 2010 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
VII is way overrated
good combat systems, but surprisingly linear. i hate RPGs where locations only matter one time.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
Most RPGs I would think, but it's hard for me to say precisely.
Another gripe about VII, that goddamned inside Cloud’s head sequence that goes on for eternity.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
It has it's moments.
Both transitions between worlds blew me out of the water, but again, the linearity that you have to deal with where most places don’t matter more than once just bothers me.
That and I just felt it looked uglier in some way than IV, but I played it so much later anyway.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
From a purely gameplay perspective it might be the best one
story, visuals and music not as much.
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I might be able to get on board with that.
I liked mixing and matching and periodically hauling off on some dude by launching a volley of pocket change into his face, but I think I liked the individual character abilities in VI more than I enjoyed the customizable end of V.
X-Death is a stupid name for a villain, but I think it’s been retconned to Exodus at this point which is still whut.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
Yes.
Unless you want to count Tactics, and then it gets a little tricky.
VI has very few flaws.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
The Floating Continent tune blew me away the first time I heard it.
Also I was utterly terrified on my first tour of the WoR.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
I'd say Black Omen, but it was just such a short little ditty.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
The World of Ruin portion of the game is kind of a mess
and became a typical design fuck up of every FF game that came after it. Have 3/4s of the game be tight and well designed, then open everything up and make it kind of middling and disconnected.
Not that I didn’t love the shit out of the game as a kid.
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That's my gripe.
You only need three characters to beat the game. An interesting challenge, no doubt, but not a whole bearing on your rediscovery.
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Its fun to beat the game with only 3 characters
even more fun to do it with as little leveling as possible!
I was gonna try it on the GBA version but they fixed the glitch :(
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They've done that with a number of the remakes.
When they released FF Origins on the GBA, they took out the easy magic/weapon leveling trick in II, which makes me not want to play the game at all because the way you get experience in that game, while revolutionary for the time, was excruciating.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
They're close for me.
There aren’t really many parts of IV where I think “God, I hate this.” Maybe the magnetic cave and the Baron passage. Also the parts when you have Edward/Gilbert in your party.
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Sort of.
The abilities that made him okay to begin with, like distributing potions, were in the original Japanese version and eliminated from the U.S. version. Even then, the only thing that makes it work is everyone’s HP is low at that point and it frees up Rydia to use offensive magic. As I remember, his final weapon in the GBA was okay at least, but on abilities and the overall package he’s one of the last characters I want around in my party.
I think I may need to get the DS 3-D remake of it and give that a run. I had fun with the remake of FFIII they did, even though they completely screwed up the order of jobs you get late in the game.
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by JY on Mar 10, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
The 3D DS Remake of 4 is so painfully easy
Rosa has a heal ability that is just entirely broken.
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Seriously?
Everything I hard was saying “Oh my god I’m dying constantly and there’s no way around this”. Maybe they fixed that issue, or whoever I read that from was dumb
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Enter the Matrix
God, what a piece of shit that was.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Mar 9, 2010 12:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Nothing is worse than the first time I played 2k6
I went down to blockbuster at 9am to rent it and I had returned it by 10:30. It even had a bug that deleted every thing on your entire hard drive!
At least MLB 2k7 is amusing in a Yuni sort of way now. A terrible 2007 Mariners tean on a terrible game? Sounds like a fun way to spend a drunken night!
Dante's Inferno
That is the last time I will ever do a blind buy. Look, EA, if I want to play a God of War clone I’ll just fucking play God of War.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Probably Kirby's Dream Land 3
That came out shortly after Kirby Super Star, and.. the gameplay was sorely lacking by comparison.
Kirby Super Star is one of the great all-time fuckin' around games.
Though it still loses out in my heart to Legend of the Mystical Ninja. That was the greatest fuckin’ around game ever made.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 9, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
Does the Diablo II 1.13 patch count?
Nearly a year since it was announced, and it still hasn’t moved out of beta. The changes made were quite minor to top it off, though they finally fixed TPPK for hardcore players. Just reset the ladder dammit!
You're right...
I hadn’t realized that it had been that long that we’ve been waiting for it. Of course, it was postponed for a month and a half because of some server issues, but they’ve been playtesting it for three months today. It’s not like they have a whole lot to balance out.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
I sure did
I couldn’t help but feeling the whole thing would’ve been better as a movie and that it did little to advance the medium. I never really felt immersed by doing stupid button presses, mostly just annoyed.
I also hate the whole illusion of choice. I mean yeah there are multiple endings but why can’t I just up and talk to the cops at the beginning before I’ve become prime suspect #1?
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Like I mentioned before, the identity of the killer was the backbreaker.
It made absolutely no sense.
Also, “JAY-SON!” ARGH bad voice actors
Yeah
I would’ve preferred the initial red herring to be the actual killer. It would’ve made more sense even if it would’ve been predictable.
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Are you gonna try the DLC?
I have a code for the first chapter, but I read that its pretty bad.
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I think I'm just going to wash my hands of this game.
If they can’t get the plot of the core game right, I don’t trust them to write meaningful DLC.
Its all prequel stuff
and the one chapter that is out has no story for the most part.
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It's out?
I haven’t looked yet. I’ll probably check it out. I wasn’t nearly as disappointed as you guys were. I got lost in it and really enjoyed myself. It’s flawed, but the plot holes didn’t bother me that much.
I think it is
It came out in Europe earlier and Amazon finally sent me my code.
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Don't go in too deep now.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 9, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
The two James Bond titles that followed GoldenEye, they sucked hard.
Didn’t bother with anything that followed. If anything else was actually made.
Jersey?
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Just barely, that's right across the river from Philly.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Awesome awesome awesome.
The sign maker is my hero.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 9, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
I am either ignorant or have a fried brain.
Not sure what’s goin on there..
by seattlesundevil on Mar 9, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
The hadouken guy next to "Hoboken"
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 9, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadouken
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
(I'm now up to speed too)
I thought it had something to do with an actual hobo, so this explanation (while funny) is a bit disappointing.
wait fuck yes
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Hope you saved the game first
Or maybe there will be a rubber tree at the bottom of the cliff
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Mar 9, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I just sat on the wall and laughed. It is my 2nd favorite traveling sign after

by msb on Mar 9, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
There's a sign similar to this near Purdy, as that's where the women's correctional facility is.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 9, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
That seems like a place more likely to need the sign.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Always a good one to see
My comment above was a fairly obscure reference to The Secret of Monkey Island computer game
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
I like the one on Aurora that talks to me like a john.
I’m just getting cuban sandwiches, why are you recording my license plate?
I think my favorite road sign is still the one northbound I-5 heading towards Tacoma.
It’s so indecisive, it reads:
“Fort Lewis
No. Fort Lewis”
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Mar 9, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
Reason #256 that I know I am old.
I looked at that car and immediately thought of the blind spots it would have.
Sure it has blind spots
but it also has “Video monitors located on each door and on each side of the rear seating area project distorted fish-eye images from orange filtered cameras mounted beneath the A-pillars. While the vehicle is parked the driver and passenger can edit the scenes captured by the cameras to show their friends where they have been and perhaps even post the clip online for others to see.”
I just push my side mirrors way out, they pick up where the rearview mirror stops.
Gives me roughly 160 degrees, so I can see the sides without turning my head. When a car is passing, it breaks into my side vision just as it leaves the mirrors. Works great until my wife pushes the mirrors back in so they aim right down the sides of the car
Concept cars are always fun
My most favorite concept car (with a caveat that it will not ever be built for consumers, in any iteration) is the Mazda Furai. Here is a video showing it off, and pay special attention to the sound it makes. Pretty sure I’ve heard that sound in a Star Wars movie before
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
Oh and blind spots everywhere on this thing, just for you Sec108
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
I wanted Samurai Goroh to come out of that thing.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Mar 9, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions
This is a terrible car but I want one so hard.
Just so people will look at and be reminded not to buy one.
Just like the Pontiac Aztec?
I thought that was possibly the ugliest car ever made.
by seattle_since_81 on Mar 9, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
I had the pleasure of driving one of those to Kansas City and back a few months ago
I’d never been more embarrassed behind the wheel of an automobile in my life, especially since I avoided the interstate most of the way. I got some weird stares driving through some tiny towns on non-major highways in southern Nebraska.
The car was shit too- something that small better get more than 35 MPG.
I will admit the interior is quite comfortable- I felt like I was sitting on my couch driving a car in a video game.
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Err... semi NSFW
Which I found out a bit late..
by seattlesundevil on Mar 9, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
Eric Cartman version of "Poker Face" coming to Rock Band.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 9, 2010 2:52 PM PST reply actions
Reading through the Annual I just bought at Walmart (yay!)
Does anyone else try to put on a sexy Aussie accent when reading RRS’ quotes in Shannon’s article? Or am I just weird?
Loafie’s spray chart is hilarious.
Geoff Baker’s article was tremendous. Hell, everything is tremendous. This is the new gold standard for annual mags.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
I just tried to take a drink from my beer bottle without realizing it wasn't opened.
I know this has happened to others—you bring it to your lips expecting hoppy goodness, and instead get a taste of metal. What a letdown.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Dustin Ackley broke an aluminum bat?
Holy shit, that’s awesome.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Less awesome? Pedroia broke an aluminum bat against Auburn his last year at ASU
I was doing play-by-play for it and was completely confused as to what the hell happened.
by seattlesundevil on Mar 9, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
Initial FFXIII impressions
I have no idea what the hell is going on.
Squeenix needs to pay Nobuo Uematsu whatever the hell he wants to write for them again. This soundtrack is god awful.
I was watching a justin.tv feed earlier
Looks more like a Star Ocean game than Final Fantasy, but it looks fun. Paradigm shift is a nice concept. Also, Snow is awesome.
Don't tell Faux.
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
I'm enjoying it a lot so far.
The game not the soundtrack.
by Kirk on Mar 9, 2010 8:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
It didn't have thirty minutes of dicking around...
because the game assumes you didn’t read the instruction manual, did it?
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by JY on Mar 9, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
Not curl up in front of the fire reading, but bathroom reading, probably.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 9, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
The game doesn't throw the real meat of the combat system at you until a couple hours in
So the early part is pretty well paced. Then about 3-5 hours in you start getting hit with tutorials every 10 minutes or so until you’ve unlocked the Paradigm system, Crystallium system and your summon.
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Really my protip:
Always have:
Blaster, Blaster, Attacker
Attacker, Attacker, Blaster
Healer, Defender, X
Enhancer, Jammer, X
And anything else really and you’ll be good to go. I used Lightning, Fang and Hope for the majority of the game because Lightning and Fang’s second weapons got more powerful than everyone else’s when I upgraded them. Lightning probably had 100 points of attack on everyone and Hope had 50 or so magic on Vanille.
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Isn't Day 11 like 30 hours into the game?
No idea how far I am, but I’m pretty sure it’s Day 1. I’m about 2 hours in.
I have no idea either.
I just read reviews that said Day 11 is where the game opens up, but it’s quite a ways into the game. Like 25 or 30 hours. I might have misread, too.
PS3
I think it’s awesome that it’s also on 360, but since I had the choice, I went with PS3. I’ve heard the graphics are (very slightly) better, it’s all on one disc (instead of three on 360), and Square has always been pretty Sony-friendly. Just seemed like the better choice.
But still, high-five to Microsoft for breaking the exclusivity. I hope it pays off for them.
A word of (probably unnecessary) warning
This was hopefully just a fluke thing, but I was playing FFXIII today and paused the game for maybe an hour and a half to have dinner/watch American Idol with the lady for a bit, and when I came back, the sound on my PS3 was fucked. Very scratchy. Rebooted and it was still a mess.
So I unplugged the HDMI and the power source and plugged them back in, ejected the disc and put it back in, and now everything’s fine again.
Probably nothing, but just figured I’d mention it. First time I’ve ever had an issue with the console.
Just wait until you get to chapter 10
There is one area where the music sounds like elevator music. You’re wandering around this awesome looking area, fighting huge scary monsters, and the non combat music sounds like something you’d hear in an elevator.
Chapter 9 has good music though.
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For you metal heads out there, I present the greatest news you will hear all week:
IRON MAIDEN are pleased to announce that their forthcoming new studio album will be called ‘THE FINAL FRONTIER’, and is expected be released late summer of this year.
The announcement comes with news of a North American Tour with Very Special Guests Dream Theater to open in Dallas, Texas, on 9th June and finish in Washington D.C. on 20th July, making it Maiden’s most extensive North American tour in many years.
THE FINAL FRONTIER 2010 NORTH AMERICAN TOUR
June 22nd – Auburn, WA – White River Amphitheatre
FUCK ERIC BYRNES FUCK ERIC BYRNES!
Ass is ass.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Mar 10, 2010 10:44 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
So here comes my The Show RTTS story:
I built a 6’10", 275 lb. behemoth 1B, and got stuck with none other but the Angels organization. I was good enough to make the big leagues at age 19 (after toiling in AA the season before), but shit, my team sucks. I’ll have a two-run double to give us a good lead, and my pitchers will promptly piss it away.
In this alternate 2011 world the Angels are the worst pitching club in baseball. But it sure as shit isn’t my fault—-I’m batting over .400 in my limited playing time.
But of course, leave it to LAAneheim to turn a 6-0 lead into a 8-6 loss. Thank you, The Show—giving me yet another reason to hate the Angels.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
I'm really sorry.
I got blessed—-Kendry Morales was previously blocking me at 1B but my stats were insane enough that I won the full-time job. At age 19. Yeah.
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Oh shit. I'm sorry.
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My experience with RTTS this year:
RBI double on my first at-bat, then went 0-for-my-next-37. Forgot how much this shit makes me angry. But it can be oh so rewarding when you actually start getting decent.
The "guess pitch" thing has been my godsend
I would just guess fastball every time, and if I was wrong, well then I would just adjust for a breaking pitch. It doesn’t always work (I still look like a retarded Beltre reaching for the low-and-away slider) but it’s my preferred strategy.
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That's exactly what I do.
And I can hit just fine when playing the regular (non-RTTS) game modes. But my guy is just so shitty that even when I square one up I ground out or pull it foul. Same as last year. Because somehow in the minors, every pitcher has at least five pitches. Grr.
But I shall soldier on. The AI is apparently too broken to start a franchise anyway.
They need to hire an analyst to consult on the AI
I’m pretty sure I could tighten it up to realistic levels no problem
by Graham MacAree on Mar 10, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
They also need an analyst to fix their
simulated season results. You’d think they could use things like ZiPS or CHONE to get more realistic results.
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Yeah, I signed Joe Mauer and he’s absolutely killing me.
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by D.Szymborski on Mar 10, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
They don't need to though
That’s the maddening thing. They know what true talent is in the game because presumably they are programming it in.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 10, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, I hate those kind of pitchers
But the ones that have a 92MPH fastball and nothing else? I feast off those guys.
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Yeah ditto
which I guess seems kind of realistic.
Also I hate the made up pitchers who have ridiculous arsenals like Palm Ball, Screwball, Rising Fastball and Knuckle ball. Seriously?
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It’s fun as all hell, however, having pitchers with wacky arsenals. If RTTS is any clue, submarine fastball/knuckleball/screwball pitchers are impossible to hit and a real-life person (I still don’t know how one could even physically do that as a submariner) that could do that would probably break baseball.
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by D.Szymborski on Mar 10, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
When I first started playing The Show I always guessed curveball(or any breaking pitch that had downward movement)
because I had a hard time tracking them, but I could track sliders, fastballs, changups, ect perfectly fine. It led to some insane stats my first few years until I turned the guess pitch off. It became way to realistic. But it definitely helps with the strikezone judgement, because now even on hard settings I have guys that put up 90+/20-30 BB/K rates routinely.
FUCK ERIC BYRNES FUCK ERIC BYRNES!
I’m always disappointed that I’m not much better hitting video game curves than real ones.
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dan@baseballprimer.com
by D.Szymborski on Mar 10, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah that's what I do as well
guess fastball and if its not then look breaking ball. Although it gets screwy with guys who have 2 seamers.
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I swear your team always sucks around you in RTTS
especially when you’re a pitcher, your defenders all magically turn into molasses slow morons. It drives me nuts every year to throw a great pitch that gets hit for a perfect double play ball and then watch it go for a single.
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At least they’ve mostly ironed out the problem where soft liners hit to a certain spot make the infielder give up and cover 2nd. Nothing was worse than in older RTTS when you were pitching and your lazy ass shortstop gives up on a ball hit 5 feet from him.
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by D.Szymborski on Mar 10, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
AND A WALK
Jesus Christ the Padres suck.
by Mariner John on Mar 9, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
I have FINALLY started hitting on that..
I went into the Drills —> Contact and Power and just did it over and over with the power swing until I got that timing down, makes contact that much easier
by seattlesundevil on Mar 10, 2010 6:46 AM PST up reply actions
I always swing early.
That sounds like a good solution to my problem.
by Mariner John on Mar 10, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
That was my issue too!
I always try to do it and slowly cut down on the "very"’s i.e. the very late and very early and then go from there. It has worked pretty well!
by seattlesundevil on Mar 10, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Sec 108 picked up the Z banner today, guys.
It’s beautiful.

by royalcurve on Mar 10, 2010 12:49 AM PST reply actions 6 recs
I think that justifies it then.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
by JY on Mar 10, 2010 6:56 AM PST up reply actions
MLB 10 THE SHOW HAS ARRIVED!!!
Wooooo, only six hours left until I can go home and play it … goodbye, life!
First job...
…edit the Mariner roster to reflect their ‘true’ defensive ratings as devised by GZR [Gareth’s Zone Rating] which usually involves 99/90/90 stats for Guti and similar for Jack Wilson, Chone and Ichiro.
Also, edit Felix’s ratings to reflect speed and movement on his change and movement on his 2 seamer.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 10, 2010 3:57 AM PST up reply actions
That's the first thing I did on 2k10, too
Changed Gutz, Ichiro and Wilson and revamped Felix and Lee and Aardsma
by seattlesundevil on Mar 10, 2010 6:47 AM PST up reply actions
So is this game really better than 09. Is it worth the money?
Mind you I only play games for about an hour and half a week, and I’m currently working on Assassin’s Creed 2.
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
I am thoroughly addicted.
Sure, there are some bugs and glitches, but they are really listening to the community and are working on a patch that is (hopefully) addressing a majority of those problems – supposed to be due out in mid-April.
But yeah, I love it – and I HATED 2k9.
by seattlesundevil on Mar 10, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions
I am enjoying it as well.
The pitching mechanics are really fun. It’s certainly not as realistic as the show but I’m having lots of fun with the My Player mode as a reliever.
Nomar Garciaparra---->Retired
According to WEEI.com’s Lou Merloni, Nomar Garciappara will sign a one-day contract Tuesday and retire as a member of the Red Sox.
It’s a nice nod to Nomar, who played his first eight seasons in a Red Sox uniform and will retire with an impressive .313/.361/.521 career batting line over 5,596 major league at-bats. The Sox have a formal press conference scheduled for 10:30am EST on Tuesday morning.
FUCK ERIC BYRNES FUCK ERIC BYRNES!
I always get baffled when random people/organisations follow me on Twitter.
How do they even find me on there? And why would they follow me when most of my tweets are about football/baseball consisting of poor spelling/grammar?
Whenever I bitch about broadstripe, I get an automated message about how they plan to help me.
spoiler they dont spoiler
Guess what? You're easy to find.
Also for some reason Chelsea’s official feed is following me, which really weirds me out.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 10, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
After I posted on here that I have twitter my followers have increased by around 100%.
5 to 10!
by EnglishMariner on Mar 10, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Hollaback girl.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 10, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Yay.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 10, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Lost has completely shit the bed this season.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 10, 2010 8:13 AM PST reply actions
Corey Haim died.
I’m honestly surprised he died before Corey Feldman did.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 10, 2010 9:53 AM PST reply actions
If I've only seen one movie with him in it, does that mean I fail the '80s?
Hopefully Josh Fenderman is taking it all OK.
"Hi, you've reached the Corey hot-line. $4.95 a minute. Here are some words that rhyme with Corey: Gory. Story. Allegory. Montessori."
by msb on Mar 10, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Man, the Corey Feldman/Haim tandem was quite a thing, wasn't it?
Seems like the studios tried it a bit about 10 years ago with Freddie Prinze Jr. and Matthew Lillard, but America had moved on.
Hollywood and celebrities can suckle on my big hairy one.
by Robert on Mar 10, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No longer a celebrity
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 10, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
He's just a little young, it's ok.
Or does that mean that everyone else is old?
by seattle_since_81 on Mar 10, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
I didn't know who he was until a couple of years ago when he and Corey Feldman had a reality show for like two weeks.
I don't think you do. I think I just missed it.
In related-but-shouldn’t-be-related news, “Goonies” was a trending topic on Twitter for a while this morning. Even I knew he wasn’t in that.
this corey was the false goonie.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 10, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Give me back my wishes damnit.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 10, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
I Want A Picture Dept.
All eyes were on Ichiro’s shoes when he arrived this morning (6 minutes before stretch as usual. He doesn’t like to waste time in the morning) Asics high tops no doubt custom made out of a blue somewhat tropical looking print material complete with pink medallions on the ankles.
I really need to start the weird coworker Twitter account
here’s a new one, while I was in a meeting
Weird Coworker (AS) [10:47 AM]:
do you know where (joe smith) sits?
or who would know
other than (joe)
Weird Coworker (AS) [10:50 AM]:
p.s. you’re not at your desk
Really? I was not aware that I was not at my desk
Now she's standing on the guest chair of another girl
just with her head above the tops of the cubes, just spinning around. Not looking for anyone in particular, just looking around so that everyone else can see her head above the cube line
by seattlebruin on Mar 10, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
She is the new version of my weird ex-roommate who was so boring she was wildly entertaining
by seattlebruin on Mar 10, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
I would read this.
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
I am waiting for the twitter as my attention span is not long enough.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 10, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
She sounds kind of air headed
How did she get a job at the same place as you?
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I'm confused.
- Ryan Divish Sweeney continues to rake – ripping a double off the right field wall to drive in three runs. He’s been lifted for a pinch runner.
- keithlaw Moreland should have caught Sweeney’s “double.” Turned himself completely around.
What's Sweeney hitting now?
OPS over 2.000??
by seattlebruin on Mar 10, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Best Facebook group ever?
(props to Brett for being a fan and making this show up in my news feed)
If it wasn't for Brett my facebook would only have about ten updates per day.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 10, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
My ten or so American friends post more than my 120 ish boring English ones.
English people suck at using the internet.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 10, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
IAgreed
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 10, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Like this one this morning?
EnglishMariner http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=4980983 thank god for the sickle cell about 3 hours ago via mobile web Retweeted by BrettMiller108 and 2 others
Wow, I have a whole lot of friends in that group, apparently!
by seattlesundevil on Mar 10, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
How do you see if you have friends in that group?
When I click it, it just seems to bring up a random group of people in the group.
by seattlebruin on Mar 10, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
On the main screen of it, they usually put your friends in the top of the "fans" box
It might not be all of them, but you usually get a quick look at a handful of em
by seattlesundevil on Mar 10, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
I became a fan, but that poor kid.
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
I doubt they'll call him Megatron on a day-to-day basis
They’ll probably call him Ron or something. Or Meg if it’s a girl.
I'm not a fan of "Big Brother" gov...but I kind of feel like you should have to get names approved.
For the kids’ sake.
I disagree.
Just don’t be a fucking retard when naming your children.
"I might be a butt hoarder...speed skating butts that is." - wazzu93
This.
Though I’ll totally break this rule.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 10, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
If anything, you should need a license to breed.
"I might be a butt hoarder...speed skating butts that is." - wazzu93
A person needs a license to drive an automobile, but it's totally fine to unleash your hell-spawn on society.
"I might be a butt hoarder...speed skating butts that is." - wazzu93
However, some couples counseling, some aptitude checkups, etc would do some good.
"I might be a butt hoarder...speed skating butts that is." - wazzu93
NO WAY.
Not every woman’s body is treated as a temple.
"I might be a butt hoarder...speed skating butts that is." - wazzu93
I actually believe you have to be a woman to get the job.
Because you’re literally massaging the vagina.
by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 10, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
I think this is one of those jobs that sounds better in the perverted parts of our minds
than it is in actuality.
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Kirk are you pondering what I'm pondering?
by Robert on Mar 10, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Guess how doctors used to treat hysterical women way back when!
No kidding. Hysteria was considered a female condition, and induced orgasm was considered a treatment. 19th century thing I believe.
Before then too
The exact phrase was ‘uterine fury’
by Graham MacAree on Mar 10, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Me too.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 11, 2010 3:42 AM PST up reply actions
The name of the medical procedure "hysterectomy" is not accidental.
They thought taking out your uterus made you sane.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 10, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
This might be the greatest thing ever designed and it makes me truly sad that the Cold War ended
by Robert on Mar 10, 2010 4:08 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Holy crap that's cartoonish
What the hell, does anyone know if it actually flew?
Any of our British correspondents care to comment on this?
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/
I think everyone on welfare for more than five years should be sterilised.
by Graham MacAree on Mar 10, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
Not just children, adults as well!
Seriously, it’s a major problem in the cities.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 11, 2010 2:21 AM PST up reply actions
New OT posted
This one was taking way too long to load at work. Talking about video games is a good way to get an OT to fill up it seems like.
by seattle_since_81 on Mar 10, 2010 6:42 PM PST reply actions

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