Cliff Lee Suspended For Five Games
Per Divish and Drayer's tweets. The suspension starts with Opening Day, so they're all real games. Oops.
Jeff's note: As a Mariners fan, I hate this, and think it's ridiculous. If I slip into my objectivity underoos, though, there is enough evidence - not proof, but evidence - that Lee was throwing at Chris Snyder to warrant a suspension. The second pitch came up high, and that's a real dangerous area. While I'm aware that Lee's been struggling with his command this spring, it's pretty hard to miss that bad by accident. You have to discourage that sort of stuff, and you discourage by penalizing.
Ultimately, a five-day suspension is pretty minor, as it probably - but not necessarily - costs Lee all of one start. And if he appeals and gets the suspension reduced by a day, as frequently happens, then he doesn't miss a start at all, and Wak just has to shuffle some names around. I didn't see this coming, but I get it, and in the end, it simply isn't that big of a deal.
Lee has also been fined some undisclosed and presumably insignificant amount of money that I imagine is far greater than what I get paid in a year. America!
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Update: Lee, naturally, will appeal
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Pure and utter bullsh*t.
Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...
Swearing is fine here
and in this completely justified.
by Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth on Mar 17, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
DUDE!!!!
That seems a little harsh, doesn’t it? It’s not like he actually hit him.
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
He will.
This isn’t worth getting worked up over
It's worth getting worked up over if you have tickets to the first two games in Oakland.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Mar 17, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm saying it's not worth getting worked up over
until we know if/when he’s appealing. 90% of players appeal and suspensions don’t take place until after the appeal is settled, which could come at any time.
Chances are that it'll still be settled before the season starts, I would think.
Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Mar 17, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure that is why it is 5 games
Basically a one-game suspension
I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh
That's the 8th game of the season. Wouldn't be too hard to move him back a few spots so he could make the start.
FUCK ERIC BYRNES FUCK ERIC BYRNES!
But do you want to purposely have him make his first start that late in the season,
especially when most starters aren’t fully stretched out anyway?
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
Son of a bitch.

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...
by SeaKoala on Mar 17, 2010 3:22 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
You must have
been in his frat. I hear Bud will take an appointment with anyone that he paddled in college.
Does it really matter as long as it's less than five?
Depending on when the suspension took effect of course.
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
He's only got so many years left in him, this might be his one and only chance to see Cliff Lee pitch
Let him have his hope for god’s sake
Whatever
I was pissed off, until I realized that everything gets reduced. Now my attitude is, whatever.
Mariners/D Broncos/BSU Broncos fan in Seattle
They warned us
The fans of the team that had this guy tried to tell us he would be trouble when we traded for him. The season hasn’t even started and he’s already getting himself suspended
……
Wait, nevermind. I’m thinking of someone else. My bad.
by ThundaPC on Mar 17, 2010 3:43 PM PDT reply actions 20 recs
Will MLB be willing to completely nullify the suspension by reducing it to the point that he doesn't actually miss a single start though?
Do SPs often get their suspensions reduced to this point?
No idea
He’ll lose money either way, though, so a reduced suspension isn’t a meaningless suspension.
by Jeff Sullivan on Mar 17, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
5 game suspension @ $9M/yr = $277.7K
Pocket change, or what I make in 5 years, whichever way you want to think about it.
Oh, right.
I guess this why I shouldn’t drink tequila at work.
I don't see what one has to do with the other...
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
by Thingray on Mar 17, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dude, tequila on St. Patrick's Day?
Not that I partake or anything, but… come on… seriously?
I'd sleep at the Internet, but I've found servers don't make for good pillows.
by thehemogoblin on Mar 17, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
The best ever
Is going to a Mexican restaurant on St. Patrick’s Day, and an Irish bar on Cinco de Mayo.
by ungoreatstefan on Mar 17, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
So, lets recap:
A) Barry Zito pegs Prince Fielder a week ago, for the celebration way back in September.
-outcome of A) No suspension whatsoever.
B) Ron Washington tested positive for Cocaine last season, not coming forward until this was found out.
-outcome of B) Probably interview on OTL with Bob Ley
C) Cliff Lee gives ambiguous chin music to a guy who could have injured his leg
-outcome of C) 5 game suspension
The MLB, ladies and gentleman.
by blueside714 on Mar 17, 2010 4:52 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Zito hit Fielder in the back, while Lee threw a ball at or near Snyder's head
I agree that MLB’s track record on the subject is spotty, but I understand the distinction here.
by Jeff Sullivan on Mar 17, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
It's my personal belief that the head should represent a zero-tolerance area
by Jeff Sullivan on Mar 17, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno, intentionally throwing at his head seems like kind of an extreme response and out of character for Lee.
Maybe he meant to throw at him but didn’t mean to put it so high. It’s so hard to separate intention from bad control in spring training I just don’t think this should matter so much.
It probably shouldn't, but if they're planning to be more strict about this stuff, I approve of it
I imagine Lee will make his case in the appeal, and if he gets it reduced, it’s no problem. But I really hate pitches at and over the head.
by Jeff Sullivan on Mar 17, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait, don't we start the season on the road?
Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.
This is a tough one for me
I firmly believe that throwing at someone intentionally is barbaric and has no place in today’s baseball.
At the same time, though, MLB’s enforcement of this, and things like it, has been so spotty that I don’t know that this was the appropriate place for them to take a stand.
Jeff makes a good point regarding the relative severity of this and the Zito situation, but at the same time, it’s not fair to anyone that we have to guess why one guy got suspended and the other didn’t.
Some level of consistency would be nice.
I don't know what is more frightening. Getting a pitch thrown at your head, or seeing this before he throws it.

I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Mar 17, 2010 6:11 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
He kind of looks like a clown when he smiles like that.
Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...
Oh my goodness
That was so great.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Mar 17, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Um...
I feel that I must point out that “Underoos” is a trade name and should therefore be capitalized.
Yours,
Someone who had some
~I once gave Jose Canseco $15. ~
There's no evidence at all that Cliff Lee was throwing at Snyder.
There’s evidence that Lee was throwing near Snyder, but that’s his job as pitcher.
No harm; no foul.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
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They should allow any pitchers/batters with beef amongst eachother to partake in a 2 round boxing match during the all-star break to settle the scores.
Wouldn't go well for Lee.
Snyder does kickboxing to stay limber in the offseason.
I keep trying to reset my password to "penis", but it keeps telling me "too short".
by DbacksSkins on Mar 20, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions

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