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OT cooking thoughts, and oh yeah, there's that football game, Feb 7

I was making the weekly pot of soup for lunches-- this week it's going to be refrigerator soup (aka "what  the heck is this in the crisper?")  I had chicken, leftover rice, onion, garlic, carrot, celery, mini sweet peppers, diced tomatoes, artichoke hearts ...  so I went with a little cayenne, cumin, cilantro for seasoning.

Is there anything you make that is just a 'throw it in the pot' meal? Or, is that your general cooking technique?

Continuing a thought from a previous OT-- what are you making/taking for the big football game?

And how stupid is it that the NFL has trademarked "Superbowl" so that ads have to dance around the game that will be super when selling stuff for this weekend?

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I enjoy cooking shabu shabu

in a big electric wok or even a small fondue pot works (if it’s just for me).

by melenious on Feb 7, 2010 12:01 PM PST reply actions  

Hmm. my mom used to make sukiyaki in an electric skillet.

It was likely the only sukiyaki made in our then-neighborhood in the ’60s.

by msb on Feb 7, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Budae Jigae or gamjatang for me.

Ive never really liked boiled meat though. Dont really like shabu shabu or schizuan hot pot.

by w00tah on Feb 7, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

The NFL's trademarking of "Super Bowl" is indicative of everything I hate about the NFL

and the NFL as an organization is why pro football, in spite of all of the great things about it, will never come close to being my favorite sport. It is at the moment a very distant third.

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 7, 2010 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

Kirk and I are going to start training to become those scabs...

I’ll gladly take your $700 though for no absolute reason

I don't care how well he does for the M's...FUCK ENDY CHAVEZ

by Fuzz on Feb 8, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly I don't really want it to happen either but from the way the NFL is approaching these discussions it seems like they're willing to let it happen

Rookie salaries aside, I think the NFL is being completely unfair to the players given the profitability of the league and a strike seems like the best option available given their refusal to compromise. I want changes in how the NFL is run and that’s just not going to happen without some drastic measures.

by OlSalty on Feb 8, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I honestly hadn't known that it was trademarked.

Which is funny considering the other day I was remarking on how the radio station kept calling it “the big game” and didn’t understand why they didn’t just call it the Super Bowl. You’d think I would have come the the right conclusion, instead I was thinking they just wanted to be different.

Yeah, I’m not really a fan of football.

by krb on Feb 7, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, the "optimistically-named vegetable crisper"

At least that’s what my aunt calls it. She does a cooking blog for the Berkeley examiner and wrote a piece several months ago on how to get free broth that way. I like reading her stuff, but I don’t have much if any time for cooking so it’s big draw for me.

It’s interesting to look at various cuisines and see what ends up coming together as a result of scarcity or just throwing together whatever into a pot. I don’t think it would occur to me to invent Lomo Saltado, for example. Of course, the variation I get at the Peruvian place down the street also has the French Fries cooked in, which makes it all the more interesting.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 7, 2010 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

If you don't have time for cooking, a crock pot is your best friend.

Throw stuff in, walk away for several hours, and viola, good food.

by wazzu93 on Feb 7, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

My crisper never does actually hold vegetables or fruit.

At the moment, one side has bottled water and the other wine.

by msb on Feb 7, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I went into a freak coma right as they were lining up for a Ryan Longwell field goal

I just woke 10 minutes ago and demanded the nurse get my my laptop. As soon as I finish catching up on old LL threads I am headed for NFl.com to see the final score!

by Poochie on Feb 7, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

So far

We have several boozes, some smokies wrapped in bacon, I hear Caribbean pork thing is on it’s way, along with queso/salsa/guac trinity all homemade. And lots and lots of cheap beer…

~I once gave Jose Canseco $15. ~

by section331 on Feb 7, 2010 12:39 PM PST reply actions  

Simply glorious.

Nice to see Cech back in form! And of course….

DROOOGBAAAAA!!!

If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.

by GhettoBear04 on Feb 7, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure what's more sad--

Go Daddy ads or Danica Patrick.

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Feb 7, 2010 4:04 PM PST reply actions  

I don't know what makes me more sad:

That Patrick has concluded that in order for a woman driver to appeal to the Nascar crowd that she has to act like a whore, or that she’s probably right.

by katal on Feb 7, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

wtf....

Manbabies

Thank you, internet.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 7, 2010 6:17 PM PST reply actions  

Well that probably seals it.

One of the best Super Bowls I’ve ever seen.

by BrianL on Feb 7, 2010 6:29 PM PST reply actions  

Hell of a game.

And I’m so, so happy I didn’t put money on the Colts. I had been willing to wager an awful lot.

by katal on Feb 7, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you miss 42 and 43?

Seriously though, we have had some great Super Bowls in the past several years.

by Snowman1025 on Feb 7, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I was too repulsed by the 43 matchup to enjoy it

42 had a great ending, but was really an ugly game overall.

by BrianL on Feb 7, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, what a terrible place to throw a football.

Directly into somebodies hands. Nice catch, Fumblefingers.

Hard work never killed nobody, but I won't take my chances.

by JAH on Feb 7, 2010 6:46 PM PST reply actions  

I'm convinced that that game didn't turn on the onside kick but on the Garson drop...

The Colts looked unstoppable and were on their way to a 17-3 lead before that. Figuring 17 was all they scored, that’s saying something.

by SethGrandpa on Feb 7, 2010 6:57 PM PST reply actions  

Feh.

I can’t love basketball in any form anymore.

by BrianL on Feb 7, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

NBA is brutal to watch, but NCAA still has everything that made it great.

Hunger, passion, a less business-like approach to the game, and honest-to-goodness exuberance. Attending the first two rounds of the tourney when I was in high school was still the greatest sporting experience of my life.

by abender20 on Feb 7, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to LIVE for basketball, so I understand why people like it . . . but I just don't anymore.

What’s funny is we’re currently watching two legends play. I honestly think that, by the time they retire, LeBron and Kobe will be among the five best players to ever touch a basketball. And I still don’t care. That frustrates me.

by Teej on Feb 8, 2010 12:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I am not a fan of the NBA by nature

but I realized recently that because I just got a job working for the Seattle Storm, it would probably benefit me personally if the NBA returned to Seattle.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Feb 8, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

But that's good fundamental basketball!

Which is why it’s not entertaining and the league has been on the verge of folding (I believe anyway) since its inception.

I don't care how well he does for the M's...FUCK ENDY CHAVEZ

by Fuzz on Feb 8, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Channeling Futurama, much?

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Feb 9, 2010 2:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe....

I don't care how well he does for the M's...FUCK ENDY CHAVEZ

by Fuzz on Feb 9, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not a huge fan of March Madness but I'm a big Husky bball fan.

Like, I don’t care about the other teams and won’t watch many games, but I’ll watch every UW game. On form, they’ve got to be one of the top 15 teams in the nation…

Hey everyone, Follow me on Twitter!, check out My Baseball Blog, and Last.fm me!

by lailaihei on Feb 8, 2010 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

It was gone after the Villa draw

The only thing that gives me any sort of optimism is that Arsenal have the easiest run in of any team in the top half. But they’re not going to even come close to finishing first – I still think fourth is realistic, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they dropped further than that. Nor do I think that would necessarily be a bad thing.

by pdb on Feb 8, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

i'm glad the saints won b/c i rather see brees than a bunch of peyton manning commercials

for the next 7 months. plus the city of new orleans deserve some great news.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood"

by wolfmanshowlforever on Feb 7, 2010 8:40 PM PST reply actions  

Manning might be more famous but he has very little charisma imo. He looks like a tall

bookworm type to me. He is known for watching game films alot too. As for the Who(concert at halftime) i thought it was pretty good but i like them. They played all three songs that are aired on the CSI shows plus a few more. I still think that Drew Brees and Reggie Bush will got some commercial time.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood"

by wolfmanshowlforever on Feb 8, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Am I the only one here that finds it sad

that the Who are identified as the guys who have the songs on the CSI shows?

by pdb on Feb 8, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

Though at least people know who they are I guess.

by Mariner John on Feb 8, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I just mentioned it.

I remember their glory days and after Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd they are my favorite band. Since i can see for miles and miles i see a mariners world series championship.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood"

by wolfmanshowlforever on Feb 8, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Not as sad as it makes me when I remember the hugely celebrated The Who reunion tour

of 1990 when they charged through the nose because they weren’t going to be performing any longer.

by Sec 108 on Feb 8, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Was that the reunion tour?

Or the farewell tour?
Or the farewell reunion tour?
Or the 25th anniversary tour?
Or the anniversary farewell reunion tour?

by pdb on Feb 8, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

That is like the Brett Favre commercial we saw.

Is it farewell or a reunion with the vikings. You Brettcha is a slogan on a billboard in Minneaoplis hoping Favre will come back. I rather see The Who come back to the super bowl then B.F. Or a commercial of him in 2020.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood"

by wolfmanshowlforever on Feb 8, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Can't say i watch snl but the two commercials of P.M. i have seen are......

i think oreo cookies challenge vs trump and the espn promos with his bother kicking each other in the azz. Not funny to me. What can i say i like Drew Brees better.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood"

by wolfmanshowlforever on Feb 8, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Kinda funny.

Still like Brees better.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood"

by wolfmanshowlforever on Feb 8, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Inspired by the half-time, I decided that some songs need to be updated if the original artists are going to continue to try to play them ...


I said I know it’s only kidney stones
But I passed ‘em.
I said I know
it’s only kidney stones
But I passed ‘em
passed ’em
yes I did.
Well
I passed ’em
oh yes
I passed ’em
I passed ’em
I said: Can’t you see this old boy’s finally got relief?

by Steve Nelson on Feb 7, 2010 9:45 PM PST reply actions  

Fair enough, they weren't great

But I really enjoyed their last album, and have seen them twice in this incarnation twice and they were fantastic both times. I don’t really think it’s fair to judge this incarnation of the band (which has actually been largely praised by the critics), based on one crappy 12 minute set.

by Poochie on Feb 8, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

It's sad that Pete and Roger can't even come close to hitting the high notes any more.

Pete kept fucking up his windmill. Zak Starkey is an okay drummer, but he shames himself trying to fill in for Keith Moon.

I thought the show sucked for the most part.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Feb 8, 2010 7:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I watched this this morning and it made me sad

I’m not a huge Who fan to start with, but their halftime show seemed to be a giant cynical exercise in going through the motions to collect a fat paycheck and let people on TV get all nostalgic about The Good Old Days. Zak Starkey is actually a much, much better drummer than he showed yesterday and Roger Daltrey just pretty much phoned it in.

by pdb on Feb 8, 2010 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Their set at the press conference was actually pretty good

I think many of the people who are shitting on the halftime show expected the Who from 1976 and that’s not fair. Roger Daltrey is 66, that’s how his voice sounds.

I give the Who credit for freely admitting they’re a nostalgia act, and freely admitting they tour to make money. They’re still an entergetic rock and roll band who enjoy doing what they do.

by Poochie on Feb 8, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I shit on it because it fucking sucked.

I don’t care how old you are, when you perform in front of an audience you are opening yourself up to criticism. My critical opinion is that they blew goats.

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 8, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

It was pretty awful, I'd say

I’m no expert on the Who, but still, I contrast it with the energy that Springsteen or Prince showed during their halftime sets and the Super Bowl might as well have gotten me and my neighbors to play a kazoo version of Bohemian Rhapsody, we would have done a better job.

by pdb on Feb 8, 2010 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

They played for free, actually.

But I still don’t like them much to begin with, and I didn’t even bother to watch the performance after the first couple minutes.

by I Lick Squirrels on Feb 8, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Meh.

Let’s Go Baseball!

FUCK ERIC BYRNES FUCK ERIC BYRNES!

by Goose on Feb 7, 2010 11:20 PM PST reply actions  

Hence, the whole KLASSIC thing.

I had a conversation re: ice-licking knight, and wanted to bring back a few of the better ones in the downtime before baseball season starts. I will continue to scour the internet for new and exciting gifs.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Feb 8, 2010 12:41 AM PST up reply actions  

That clip is from the movie Metropolis, right?

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Feb 8, 2010 12:59 AM PST up reply actions  

STS-130 launches in 4 minutes!

The final night launch of the shuttle program!

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Feb 8, 2010 1:11 AM PST reply actions  

I wish it was on HDTV here

Alas, I’m watching online

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Feb 8, 2010 1:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Same.

Verizon hasn’t worked out a deal with NASA TV or UWTV yet.

by BrianL on Feb 8, 2010 1:13 AM PST up reply actions  

The Super Bowl commercials were fucking AWFUL this year.

The only one that got a half-chuckle from me was the Betty White Snickers add.

And, what the hell Bud, did you buy up all the beer commercial time? I saw one Miller High Life add, and zero Coors adds. And the new Doritos add campaign was a freaking disaster.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Feb 8, 2010 7:31 AM PST reply actions  

I liked the one with the National Lampoon

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Feb 8, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

's Vacation shout out.

That was weird.

Anyways, I chuckled at a couple, but overall, they weren’t that good. They are really starting to get kind of cliche, how they try to be original and funny but they all turn out kind of similar.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Feb 8, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

What a load of horseshit.

Even this ‘apology’ seems half arsed. Too many cliched words [Gamer? Alpha Dog? Give me a break…] and an overall sense of entitlement – he seems to present it as fact that Erik has no personality because he was unwilling to speak with reporters. I wouldn’t say that is a guy without personality – I would suggest that it displays a strong personality to be non-conformist in this way.

Everything we have heard recently through the print media suggests that Erik is a humble person with a genuine fondness for Seattle. This is dispite petty people like ‘Steve Kelley’ being upset that their athlete didn’t spurt out random cliches for them to sell to the public.

by EnglishMariner on Feb 8, 2010 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

It is better than I expected from Kelley.

At least he isn’t being an ass like Jeff Nelson who apparently pissed and moaned about this signing. Why does he even have a job analyzing anything?

by Sec 108 on Feb 8, 2010 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Well that's weird, somehow I want to hurt Steve Kelley even more than I did thirty seconds ago

Steve, I also think you owe me an apology for wasting two minutes of my life to read that article

by seattlebruin on Feb 8, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

He used to love Jamie Moyer, and Moyer went into deep counts and was a short innings starter as well.

That crack about Bedard being grouchy and difficult is complete crap. Betcha anything the event that highlights that for Kelley is the time Bedard limited the questions to four, and when someone asked “four?”, he said yeah, now you’ve got three left. Or however it went, that’s how I remember it.

Bedard was demanding the journalists do a better job, and he was right to do so. The Interview thing, and vagina arm were all they were on about, and they were lazy and stupid and provided no interesting or useful information. Their job isn’t to form my opinion and tell me how to think about these people, their job is to provide me with context, back story, and quality information ( or maybe that’s just me but it helps me to connect with players on the team and view them as genuine people, or dislike them, whichever) And almost all of them are useless twats without a shred of originality and that select group of them can all fuck off. Kelley is a waste of a press pass. He’s bad at his job, and that’s the worst insult I can think of.

by Kermit. on Feb 8, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions   9 recs

I have trouble even reading this guy's columns

His writing style is so grating that it is tough to follow.

Of course, I could be mistaken.

After all, writing one sentence paragraphs may be completely acceptable to the masses.

However, I still do not appreciate it.

Not at all

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Feb 8, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions   5 recs

I just read the comments

a mix of “nice article, thanks Steve”, “Steve be a man, that was no apology”, “Bedard is a wuss”, and one fellow who thinks the column was sarcasm.

by msb on Feb 9, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep!

Although I would quantify that a bit. I think he knows how soccer works better than most. What I think he doesn’t know is how to find players that fit his ideal notion of how soccer works. And he also doesn’t know how to adapt when his lack of knowledge about how to find players bumps up against the fact that his current players aren’t getting the job done using the preferred method.

When you look at what could arguably be called the pinnacle of the Wenger experiment – the Invincible year, 2003-4, Wenger had the mix exactly right. He had his crop of small, lightning-fast technically gifted players like Fabregas and Jose Antonio Reyes, but he also had guys like Vieira, Pires, Bergkamp and Ljungberg who were not afraid to knock guys off the ball if need be.

That mix is entirely missing now – Wenger’s preference for flair players has completely overhauled the team, and in the years since that 2004 title, the rest of the game has not only caught up to, but has surpassed, Wenger. It’s frustrating.

by pdb on Feb 8, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, my point is that he just doesn't realise that ceding possession is part of a team's strategy against Arsenal

He claims they dominate because of possession while the opposition is trying to draw the defensive players out of position and spring a trap on them. And then they score and he is confused.

by Graham MacAree on Feb 8, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Ancelotti put it best

He conceded that Arsenal had the most posession but then said “but the point of the game is to win not to have the most posession”. Exactly right.

by pdb on Feb 8, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I put them about equal

Moon was fantastic in a totally different way than Hurt Locker, but they were both really damn good.

by pdb on Feb 8, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I really enjoyed Hurt Locker.

I just felt like the end was really rushed. But I guess it makes sense because its filmed like a “documentary”

by Scruffy Lefty on Feb 8, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I would've thought The Hurt Locker was a great movie if they had avoided some of the more cliche war movie plot elements

It started out fantastic, then kind of tapered off into same old same old. Overall I thought it was good, but not fantastic.

by OlSalty on Feb 8, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I loved it.

I thought it was the perfect Sam Raimi Horror.

by Scruffy Lefty on Feb 8, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

What was with the gypsy hag gumming the main character's chin, or vomiting grubs on her face?

I thought it was too much, and even if it was trying to spoof horror movies, it was doing a poor job of it.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Feb 8, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

It's gross-out horror/comedy

I think the impact of it is greater on the big screen, but it’s intentionally over the top. There were quite a few moments like that in the Evil Dead trilogy he did too.

by OlSalty on Feb 8, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess I'm not a Raimi fan, then.

I enjoy the first “Evil Dead” enough, but have never much cared for “Evil Dead 2” or “Army of Darkness”. I know that’s blasphemy, but whatever.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Feb 8, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually, I can!

I somehow picked up on how to braid without actually having done it in the past. But I managed to braid my niece’s hair without too much trouble.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Feb 8, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd like to do argument stuff to make you like Evil Dead II and Army of Darkness.

But when you conclude with slumber party, that’s just impossible to deal with as it sounds so happy.

by Kermit. on Feb 8, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

How amazing is Fangraphs?

The new splits are great, I have been waiting for these in table form for a long time. I love how David listens to and responds to what the community desire.

I don’t subscribe to any websites, but I would definately pay for Fangraphs.

by EnglishMariner on Feb 8, 2010 9:14 AM PST reply actions  

Is there any reason to visit baseball-reference anymore?

The only thing I seemed to use it for anymore was for the splits.

by edddgar on Feb 8, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Minor league stats.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 8, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure FG with hoover those in soon too as well.

I’d like FG to implement the OPS+ that Tango was suggesting a few weeks ago as well.

Also, how realistic is it that the FG ‘era’ [2002+] can be extended to include maybe the late nineties as well?

by EnglishMariner on Feb 8, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

wRC+

We have wRC+ which is the correct way to do the OPS+ trick Tango was talking about, unless you’re referring to something else that I might have missed.

by dkappelman on Feb 8, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

This is Tango's explanation, I haven't caught up on wRC+ yet so this may no longer be relevant.
By the way, since Sean Forman is in charge of OPS+, any reason we can’t get him to change it to: 1.2*OBP/lgOBP + 0.8*SLG/lgSLG – 1, for OPS+? If he did that, then OPS+ would be (almost always) superior to wOBA. It gets the weights very close to wOBA, plus the added advantage of the park/league factors.

ITT.

by EnglishMariner on Feb 8, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

In my younger days I used to make Empty Cupboard Soup all the time.

Sounds very similar to your refrigerator soup. Hot water, whatever spices you have on hand mixed with random veggies and hope it fills the belly for a few hours.

by Sec 108 on Feb 8, 2010 9:42 AM PST reply actions  

No. Just no.

Why do I hate sports journalism? ESPN shows me why.

That set the stage for the decision that changed the fate of the entire hard-luck New Orleans region and will live forever in Super Bowl lore.

NO SPORTING EVENT OR PLAY IN A SPORTING EVENT, HOWEVER HYPED, CAN CHANGE THE FATE OF AN ENTIRE REGION. IT WAS A GODDAMN FOOTBALL GAME. FOOTBALL GAMES DON’T BUILD HOUSES.

by pdb on Feb 8, 2010 10:30 AM PST reply actions  

It only has an effect on the region if it inspires employers to return to the area.

Still the only major American metropolis with no Fortune 500 companies. Big business refuses to go there because it is too risky.

by Sec 108 on Feb 8, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

This is my point

and one play in one sporting event won’t change that.

by pdb on Feb 8, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

And that is valid

but the phrase “decision that changed the fate of the entire hard-luck New Orleans region” in regards to making one play in one football game is horrifyingly oversimplifying things.

by pdb on Feb 8, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

But the Superdome did house people during the flooding.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 8, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm a little disappointed in Alcoholic Katrina so far

I was so sure New Orleans was going to burn down last night

by seattlebruin on Feb 8, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I also enjoyed Shannon Sharpe yelling at everything

and his ridiculously intense look every time Boomer was talking. Also, his hypnotic stare, and the speed with which he whipped his head back and forth every time someone different started talking.

I think Shannon Sharpe was my favorite part of this year’s Super Bowl

by seattlebruin on Feb 8, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

My fiance noticed that too

She was not paying one bit of attention, but then asked me why that guy was always yelling and looking super pissed off at the other guys that were talking. I told her it was because his face is like a horse’s face

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Feb 8, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

So what?

The fact that the Superdome housed people doesn’t have any relevance to the Saints winning the Super Bowl.

by pdb on Feb 8, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

It wasn't obvious I was messing around?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 8, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

So I've just discovered the awesomeness that is Grooveshark.

I loved Pandora for a while and friends told me I should switch to last.fm. But wow, I’m having a ton of fun playing with Grooveshark. I don’t think I’ll switch internet radio sites for a while.

by Double06 on Feb 8, 2010 10:48 AM PST reply actions  

I like Grooveshark a lot.

It’s the only place I can play Van Morrison’s Choppin’ Wood, one my all time favorite songs.

by wazzu93 on Feb 8, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

"Throw it in the pot" is a pretty standard cooking approach for me, yeah...

In general, cilantro and/or coriander and ginger are in every ‘throw it in the pot’ thing I make.

For the super bowl, I wanted to try to make hot wings, which I haven’t done before. I substituted drumsticks, because I’ve often found that the hassle of eating wings outweighs their meager payoff in meat. But anyway, Thai wings/drums! The sauce is half franks/half sriracha, a bit of kaffir lime leaf, and some green curry paste; I put some coriander in the flour. Really tasty.

by marc w on Feb 8, 2010 11:29 AM PST reply actions  

Did I really just see a commercial for Saltines?

Do Saltines really need to be advertised? Especially to the tune of “Rock You Like a Hurricane?”

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Feb 8, 2010 12:24 PM PST reply actions  

Man I really hope the game is worth playing

I was so massively disappointed by the last few 2k games that I don’t know if I can believe that they can do any better

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Feb 8, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

The current gen of console sports games has been really disappointing to me.

The last baseball and football games I enjoyed were MLB 2K5 and Madden 05. (I know a lot of people liked MVP 2005 better but I felt differently)

by Scruffy Lefty on Feb 8, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I still play

High Heat 2003 all the time!

TouchMyIchiro

by brayden04 on Feb 8, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh yes, that deserves a rec.

Is 2003 the last one they made? The one with Schilling on it?

by seattlesundevil on Feb 8, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Schilling was on the cover

but I think 2004 was the last they made. I prefer 2003 because there is no free agency. In the 2004 version free agency whacked out, it doesn’t work well.

And I like to keep all my players haha. But yeah, this game is my favorite of all time.

TouchMyIchiro

by brayden04 on Feb 8, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

2004 was all consoleified and crappy.

2003 was the last good one.

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by bluemax on Feb 8, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I have been keeping up with the news surrounding 2k10 and I think they may have a great base now

Even the new features (My Player) look much more polished than 2k has been making things during the first incarnation

by seattlesundevil on Feb 8, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess my biggest problem is that I'm almost certainly going to end up with the game

So I just want it to be worth the stupid amount of money that gets charged for shitty games

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Feb 8, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

MVP had really unrealistic control though.

You just had to know where to throw in what count and you could get a no-no every game. The show I have thrown only 7 no-no’s (out of like 1000+ games) and that is something that’s awesome.

by Kirk on Feb 9, 2010 2:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn't their MLB series a huge reason why that company is in financial trouble to start?

I played MLB 2k8 on rental from Blockbuster a few years back on the ps3 and it sucked hardcore. But I’m sure that 2k has told their baseball guys that if they make another stinker they’ll be cleaning house or discontinuing the baseball game for good, which is bad news bears for xbox owners

I don't care how well he does for the M's...FUCK ENDY CHAVEZ

by Fuzz on Feb 8, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Well that and the fact that their only money maker is GTA

and the GTA expansion packs didn’t sell nearly as well as they’d hoped.

2K sports has been on a downhill slide for years.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I really don't know anybody who bought any of the expansions at all

I don't care how well he does for the M's...FUCK ENDY CHAVEZ

by Fuzz on Feb 9, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with this.

I got about two thirds through the game and gave up because it wasn’t holding my attention, plus Fallout had appeared by that time anyway

I don't care how well he does for the M's...FUCK ENDY CHAVEZ

by Fuzz on Feb 9, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

No you were not

there were a lot of people who felt this way.

Didn’t help that the asstastic “games journalism” media types said it had Oscar quality writing.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Here is my summary of the plot of GTA IV

Niko: Hello I am Niko Bellic, I tortured Eastern European immigrant seeking revenge.

NPC: Hello Niko I am shady American and I have a problem.

Niko: You want I should kill someone for you?

NPC: Okay!

Niko: They are dead now.

NPC: Thanks, here is some money, oh and I have another problem for you to take care of. Also I am mentally unstable and you should probably kill me too.

Niko: Sigh, America sucks.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I never said it was good

I don't care how well he does for the M's...FUCK ENDY CHAVEZ

by Fuzz on Feb 9, 2010 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

So for fun I thought I'd take a look at jobs in minor league baseball...turns out I can't.

The minor leagues run their job services through PBEO.com which charges $50 a year to be a member, and you have to be a member to even look at postings. That’s a crock of shit.

by SethGrandpa on Feb 8, 2010 2:06 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, that's kinda annoying

but there are so many people that want to inquire about jobs in baseball that I guess it makes sense – it discourages the casual unqualified from blanketing the minors with resumes.

by pdb on Feb 8, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

If you watch the Aquasox site they usually mention some of the jobs.

They may be nothing more than internships though.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 8, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Still waiting on 7D used market gets better.

But once the 60D comes out, I might be tempted on getting a 50D

by w00tah on Feb 8, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

7D used market may get better after this cameras release.

A lot of 7D owners that purchased it strictly for video will be dropping them for this camera. Keep an eye on fredmiranda.com Buy/Sell forum.

by Scruffy Lefty on Feb 8, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey so since I'm not a genius at computers

and a lot of people around here are, I have a problem that I need help with.

I’m currently living in Turkey, and the government blocks YouTube. My hotel also has a block up for other sites, like sports betting sites and so forth. Anyway, does anyone know a way around the YouTube block? I’ve tried changing my DNS settings, but that doesn’t work because then I can’t access the internet at my hotel.

Oh yeah, I’m living in a hotel btw.

Here is a link explaining the problem. I’ve tried the fixes that link suggests but they don’t work.

Any help would be appreciated because I am BORED OUT OF MY MIND.

TouchMyIchiro

by brayden04 on Feb 8, 2010 2:48 PM PST reply actions  

I'm going to check it out tomorrow,

it’s 1 am here and I got practice early in the morning. I put this post up hoping to have some responses, I’ll let you know what happens why I try them tomorrow. Thanks!

TouchMyIchiro

by brayden04 on Feb 8, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure that will help

and more techy types can explain why in more detail, but basically a Website address like www.example.com is nothing but an alias. www.example.com‘s “actual” internet address is a numerical one, formatted like 132.64.1.1 . DNS Masking allows you to change the alias of a website, so that people would enter something like www.notexample.com to get to www.example.com, but it doesn’t change the 132.64.1.1, which is what filters such as Turkey’s government filter are set up to look for.

by pdb on Feb 8, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I was thinking this too...

I’d already tried different DNS solutions and I’m pretty sure that isn’t the solution I need.

TouchMyIchiro

by brayden04 on Feb 9, 2010 2:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Folks in San Diego

I’m told that this week Stone will be pouring both 12th Anniversary Bitter Chocolate Oatmeal Stout and at some later point, Vanilla Smoked Porter if anyone is interested

by seattlebruin on Feb 8, 2010 3:26 PM PST reply actions  

'I'm Idaho!'

“Of course you are.”

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 8, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Well I'll be damned

This is like when I discovered the Pilsbury Dough-Boy outlined in the crater on Mt. St. Helens

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Feb 8, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I see it.

Not surprised its the lava livers.

by w00tah on Feb 8, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

In case anyone was wondering

London has an excessive amount of airports.
I swear they need flights to go between the airports.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Feb 8, 2010 5:08 PM PST reply actions  

YES

The trains are fine, but 1) expensive and 2)not quick enough if you’d like a connecting flight.

Coming from the US, you’re basically stuck w/Heathrow (I think some east coast cities go to Gatwick, which’d be nice), but I’ve always wanted to fly to London and then connect to somewhere else in Europe via easyJet/Ryanair/other discount airline. But getting from Heathrow to one of the airports that the discount guys use would take most of the day.

by marc w on Feb 8, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Coming from Seattle you're stuck at Heathrow

but from NY you can also get to Gatwick. Flying through Chicago can get you to Birmingham, Manchester, or Glasgow as well.

by pdb on Feb 8, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Helpful hint!

Do not plan on a connecting flight anywhere from London that originates from an airport you’re not already in. If you think you have enough time to get from Heathrow to Gatwick, you don’t. Or from Heathrow to City. If you want to fly anywhere else from London book it for the next day after your arrival.

by pdb on Feb 8, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I already am staying overnight in the city.

It’s just where I’m staying is only close to Heathrow, so I’m stuck flying to Zurich on British Airways

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Feb 9, 2010 8:12 AM PST up reply actions  

My campus now has coyotes.

I live in Manhattan.

Link

And was hanging out at the same building both before and after that incident.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 8, 2010 6:19 PM PST reply actions  

I think that's my official stance on the matter

Until they start shaking me down for smokes or pocket change. Then they’ll edge into nuisance territory.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 8, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, excellent...

from the comments on the mlb/Hal Bodley piece on Zduriencik:

" Angels2011champs wrote: Hey Bradley can mess up small media teams too like when he was a padre he got in a big arguement with an ump that said something to him that really pissed him off and then his manger was pulling him away and tore his ACL. A week before that he stepped on someones hand and broke his someone on the teams finger lol. Those 2 incidents from him litterally took SD out of contention that year. You can check it out on youtube thats how I found out about it. I think bradley will do fine in seattle as long as he doesn’t throw a two out ball to a lucky fan in the stands lol."

by msb on Feb 8, 2010 8:03 PM PST reply actions  

I know we all hate chatspeak here,

but didn’t it used to be LOL, as opposed to now ending a statement with lol? It just seems like you probably aren’t really laughing out loud if it’s subdued like that, unless you’re actually doing a pervy/creepy chuckle at the end of your sentence

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Feb 8, 2010 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Angels2010champs was probably taken and they couldn't think of anything else.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 8, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

We can remedy that this Sunday

I have a loooot of extra…

~I once gave Jose Canseco $15. ~

by section331 on Feb 9, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Fine.

Then he can’t have this awesome shirt.

~I once gave Jose Canseco $15. ~

by section331 on Feb 9, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a bit on the large side...

Also, men’s shirt. But if you don’t mind….

~I once gave Jose Canseco $15. ~

by section331 on Feb 9, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

It's got to be better than my homemade Mariners shirts.

Scrawling “Bedard” on a shirt just isn’t good enough anymore.

by royalcurve on Feb 9, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously now

You don’t have any Ms shirts? Not a one? This makes me very sad….

~I once gave Jose Canseco $15. ~

by section331 on Feb 9, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I too could pass one along.

It would be a freebie from a game…

by msb on Feb 9, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Aw.

Well, I do have some spares. I’ll recheck my supply and bring with, if I can remember….it’s kind of a short sleeve dealie made of this nylon blue and gray material, with the symbol on the front and a v-neck. I bought w/o trying on, and it’s just too big. Worn a few times. You can draw Bedard on the back with a silver ink pen you want to…

~I once gave Jose Canseco $15. ~

by section331 on Feb 9, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

OK--

There is a white one with SODO MOJO on the front (and AT&T on the sleeve) and a grey one with SEATTLE MARINERS | Seattle Mariners Baseball Club 2005 | Wells Fargo. Both are XL, as they were give-aways :)

I used to have more, but they’ve slowly been destroyed via walking, and house painting in them…

by msb on Feb 9, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep. Litterally.

~I once gave Jose Canseco $15. ~

by section331 on Feb 8, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow
…and broke his someone on the teams finger lol.
…check it out on youtube thats how I found out about it.

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Feb 8, 2010 8:06 PM PST reply actions  

Wow

People in Comiskey Park in the 70s really didn’t like disco…

~I once gave Jose Canseco $15. ~

by section331 on Feb 8, 2010 10:10 PM PST reply actions  

No, really

What is fundamentally wrong with you?
I’m so glad I’m never having children. This is terrifying.

~I once gave Jose Canseco $15. ~

by section331 on Feb 8, 2010 11:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Needs more Busey

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 9, 2010 8:01 AM PST up reply actions  

This reminds me

of this. Specifically, #3, except I don’t know that this is it.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 9, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I can't decide if listening to sports radio advertising is instructive or worrying.

Apparently, my fellow listeners are in dire need of credit & divorce counseling, various male enhancements, not to mention new cars … or a repair warranty which will save you thousands of dollars and helpful advice for Valentine’s gift both naughty and nice.

by msb on Feb 9, 2010 6:59 AM PST reply actions  

Don't listen online.

It’s even worse. SCRUFF MCGRUFF CHICAGO ILLINOIS 60652 A MESSAGE FOR ANYONE WITH A PULSE WHO WANTS TO KEEP IT GET IN THERE ENERGY HOGS AND WASTE SOME ENERGY

by BrianL on Feb 9, 2010 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

That is a classic.

I don’t know any couple where the husband alone bought the house and the car (not to mention the rock). Maybe I am in the wrong financial bracket. Actually the 1-800-DIVORCE ads are all pretty terrible. What brainiac thinks that Napoleon and Henry the VIII are good examples of men about to be taken advantage of in a divorce …

by msb on Feb 9, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, don't get me started.

The Napoleonic code, which codified the divorce laws in France, and even allowed for some divorces by mutual consent, still established the supremacy of the husband with respect to the wife and children.

And Henry VIII and divorce?? really??? There was no ‘divorce law’ as such in England in the 1600s. The Pope had to dissolve your marriage if you wanted an official dissolution, and Henry got around that by declaring himself Supreme Head of the Church of England so that he could be annulled. Subsequently one could get a divorce as an act of Parliament, but oddly enough, very few could afford such a thing.

Henry’s marital career was 1) annulment (by his own decree, essentially) on the grounds that by marrying his brother’s widow the marriage was invalid 2) beheading 3) death a month after childbirth 4) annulment because the marriage was not consummated 5) beheading and 6) the one who outlived him.

by msb on Feb 9, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh dear

Here, have a cookie.

~I once gave Jose Canseco $15. ~

by section331 on Feb 9, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry. I've heard those ads too many times.

Wish I had a cookie.

Someone brought in muffins, but they are the too-big, cakey Costco kind, and banana nut. Feh.

by msb on Feb 9, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I probably

Need to make more cake. Just ate the last of the gingerbread…
There are a lot of ads on ESPN that bug me batshit. Plus, do you know of a man alive in western civilization that doesn’t know that boner pills exist? Just sayin’. They don’t need ads, they sell themselves…

~I once gave Jose Canseco $15. ~

by section331 on Feb 9, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

It came out well, then?

and is it bad that I am already thinking about what to make for dinner?

by msb on Feb 9, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, it did.

I put something on Twitter, but I know from direct experience that things get lost on there faster than keys in a couch.
And no, it’s not bad. I took chicken out to thaw for Indian food about 3 hours ago.

~I once gave Jose Canseco $15. ~

by section331 on Feb 9, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh my God

I fucking HATE that commercial.
I know people get divorced, and I can understand not wanting to dive head-first into financial ruin, but they actually paid some jackass to go into a studio and write/perform that song.

~I once gave Jose Canseco $15. ~

by section331 on Feb 9, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Who's picking up Bioshock 2 today?

I’ve got the limited edition on hold at Best Buy. Soundtrack on vinyl!

by BrianL on Feb 9, 2010 8:22 AM PST reply actions  

It's slated to be delivered today from Amazon.

For someone that doesn’t take off for release days, it’s great to come home to it on your doorstep.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 9, 2010 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm picking it up this evening!

I randomly became incredibly hyped about it at some point last week, and now I can hardly wait

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Feb 9, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

So I can actually play MW2 again?

it will probably help if I’m ever home, as well

by seattlebruin on Feb 9, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I just started playing this last weekend.

The only good thing about the care package shit is it allows me to shoot down 2-3 copters/match and not have to worry about people for a little while.

And holy crap my K/D is sad. I was like 3/15 the first few matches, and I’m now only about 7/9, which means I’m still going further into the hole.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 9, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Mine is firmly stuck at .69!

Which would be great if I was a douchebag.

by Mariner John on Feb 9, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Last night was disastrous.

I was playing Demolition and died 40+ times in back to back rounds. But racked up 25k XP!

by Scruffy Lefty on Feb 9, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

It's just not fun to get shot that much, no matter how much XP you're racking up

I want to feel good about shooting down people’s hard earned Pavelows, not think that they’re twenty seconds from getting another one.

Plus, people have gotten smarter about protecting their care packages – they’re actively looking for people who are trying to hunt them now, and tons of care packages turn into sentry guns, anyway.

by seattlebruin on Feb 9, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

That was so fucking horrible

I was like 15-55 in one of those games

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Feb 9, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously, I have stopped playing it.

I went and got a blockbuster account this weekend so I can get other games.

by seattlesundevil on Feb 9, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, thank goodness.. Hopefully it is approved soon.

On a side note – my gold account expired yesterday, because my credit card was expired… Yet, I can still get on like I have a gold. I am gonna ride this for awhile, and see how far I can make it without paying

by seattlesundevil on Feb 9, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

There've been some good prices for 12 month gold cards recently

I think Walmart.com and Amazon both had good deals. I bought the Amazon one a couple weeks ago knowing that my subscription runs out this month.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I love everything in this picture.

Was he doing laundry? Whats with the hot sauce? The bobcat in the background?

by Scruffy Lefty on Feb 9, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Other questions.

Why is his house so empty? What is the point of the window looking down on the living room from that hallway? Why is every door open in the house along with every light on?

by Kirk on Feb 9, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Why does that window have bars?

Is he worried a burglar is going to come into his house with a ladder and break his window in?

by Scruffy Lefty on Feb 9, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

But holy shit amazing!

I used to jump off the top of our entertainment center on to a bunch of couch cushions when I was a kid…

I think the key is “When i was a kid.”

by seattlesundevil on Feb 9, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Five Star Frog Splash!

FUCK ERIC BYRNES FUCK ERIC BYRNES!

by Goose on Feb 9, 2010 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I've owned my PS3 for about three years now.

So far all I’ve used it for are Blu Ray movies, MLB The Show, and Folklore. Am I the only one using this thing as an overpriced media center?

by BrianL on Feb 9, 2010 11:09 AM PST reply actions  

No, I know others like you

but you’re missing out by not playing Uncharted 1 and 2.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Meh.

I rented the first one. Felt too much like Tomb Raider, only played for a few hours.

by BrianL on Feb 9, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I wasn't going to recommend MGS4

I bought my PS3 to play MGS4 and while I enjoyed it, its not particularly great and not something I would just recommend to people.

Another PS3 exclusive I liked was Infamous but that was because I played it when it came out, which was the dead of the summer and it was perfect for that time of year.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

It's not really like Tomb Raider though

It’s more like Gears of War than Tomb Raider.

Honestly even if you didn’t like the first the second one was probably one of the top 5 games of last year. The closest thing to an awesome interactive action movie ever.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

The gameplay or the setting?

Either way, UC2 is a much tighter experience than UC1, as a PS3 owner you really owe it to yourself to at least try it. It is probably the best overall exclusive game on PS3 at this point. Tight gameplay, a funny story, and really nice graphics.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

But you like Gears of War in Space, er Mass Effect?

The cover based shooter mechanic is the primary thing that UC borrows from Gears. And the levels are a lot more organic than ME2.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

The writing in UC2 is good too

Definitely one of the more genuinely humorous games I’ve played in recent years, but with some good characterization at the same time.

I think you should at the least rent it.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Well uhh

There’s also LBP (which I’m meh on), Resistance 1 and 2 (bleh), the aforementioned Infamous (good for what it is but not world shattering), and Killzone 2. Plus MAG, and and um Heavy Rain.

I think that about covers it for first and second party PS3 exclusives.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Tried the MAG beta, hated it

Didn’t see much appeal to LBP, Resistance, or Infamous.

Heavy Rain I will probably purchase because I loved the first 75% of Indigo Prophecy.

by BrianL on Feb 9, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

My post was mostly to sum up

the sorry state of PS3 1st and 2nd party development.

Oh I forgot the R&C games from Insomniac. I knew I forgot something. The first one was okay for a launch title, didn’t play the newer ones.

I’m oblivious to the state of PS3 exclusives outside of first and second party stuff.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm stunned at how pathetic 1st and 2nd party development for the PS3 is.

It’s almost a dead gaming community meme, but holy hell the Cell was a bad idea.

by BrianL on Feb 9, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

The thing is that PS3 stuff can be pretty amazing

but it takes a complete paradigm shift in mentality in order to effectively program for the PS3. The top tier developers like Naughty Dog and Insomniac heavily utilize the SPUs and have really gotten good at optimizing them.

Everyone else took the easy route and made their games on the 360 and then put a few things on the SPUs but not in the most effective manner possibility.

The theoretical way of doing PS3 games is really cool, but most companies just can’t afford the time to redo everything to fit the model, which is why Sony’s first and second party games look and perform so much better on the PS3 than anyone else’s.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

It's powerful, sure

but Sony had to realize that developers were going to weigh the costs of learning how to code for the abstract Cell versus coding for Microsoft’s much, much, much more familiar API.

by BrianL on Feb 9, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the bigger issue

is that the graphics programming on the PS3 is so much more complex.

The SPU stuff is a bit confusing at first and requires effort to maintain but it isn’t anywhere near as abstract as some of the graphics stuff.

Also Sony was ridiculously arrogant about the whole thing. They wanted it to be hard, to be challenging so that people wouldn’t peak things out in 3 years or whatever. And yeah that is the case but I think enough developers were tired of being abused by Sony during PS2 and PSP development that jumping to 360 was a no brainer.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Trash panic!

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by JY on Feb 9, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

It's probably not helping that you own an Xbox 360 as well.

I’m sure that some games, like MW2, etc. you would play on PS3 if you didn’t have it available to you on 360 as well

by seattlebruin on Feb 9, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

If it’s a multiplatform title, I tend to buy it for the 360 since devs seem to be using that as the primary platform. That and Live is still a better service than PSN.

by BrianL on Feb 9, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Gran Turismo is still a ways off

Its approaching DNF territory.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Most likely

I’m very intrigued by their new Data Logger that they built into the game though. Full explanation and insane video at this link, but basically they can hook some sensors onto a real car and drive on one of the tracks represented in the game, and the game will take the sensor data and match it perfectly in-engine. Amazing stuff

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by tootthekazoo on Feb 9, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I play it less than I play my 360, but that's because I prefer the 360 controller so I buy all my multiplatform games for that system.

The PS3 exclusives I’ve played, though, I’ve absolutely loved. The Show, LittleBigPlanet, Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 are among the best games I’ve played in years. And God of War 3 is coming out next month. In fact, when it comes to exclusives, I’ve much preferred Sony’s offerings. I’m not a Halo fan and Mass Effect isn’t a huge deal to me.

Add in Blu-ray and a streaming Netflix option that doesn’t require me to pay $50 a year to Microsoft, and it’s been well worth the $400 I paid for it.

by Teej on Feb 9, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Wouldn't surprise me.

Hopefully they don’t include Netflix in the online-gaming package like Microsoft did, but if they do, I can live with regular non-streaming Netflix.

by Teej on Feb 9, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

You knew it was coming and now it's here

American Airlines will start charging $8 for blankets and pillows starting May 1st. I say this without a trace of snark – can pay toilets be far behind? There’s only so many things that airlines can charge fees for.

by pdb on Feb 9, 2010 11:11 AM PST reply actions  

National service?

I like the concept of JetBlue and Southwest, but last time I checked neither flew out of EWR, the airport closest to me. They also have trouble flying into SE locations. Basically only the large airlines offer service where I need to go, and smaller airlines won’t even touch the routes because they’re not money-makers.

The problem with smaller, leaner airlines is that they don’t fly everywhere. That’s a hole that larger airlines fill, because people are not going to want to go hub to hub, switching airlines on the way.

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by Faux on Feb 9, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed, though JetBlue has gotten much better nationally

they fly into a lot of smaller airports, but also remember that they’re relatively new and their routes are still expanding

by seattlebruin on Feb 9, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

No Phoenix to Seattle route :-(

At least, not that I could get to on their site

by seattlesundevil on Feb 9, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's one of the hilariously annoying ones

it’s the same for San Diego – they fly to SD and to Seattle, but not SD-Seattle.

by seattlebruin on Feb 9, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Alaska!

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by Eyebrows on Feb 9, 2010 11:59 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I hate MD-80's =(

so noisy compared to A320’s and new generation 737’s

by seattlebruin on Feb 9, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

We got rid of our MDs back in Aug08.

All 737 now.

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by Eyebrows on Feb 9, 2010 12:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Really?

I thought I had just Alaska-rouletted my way into like six 737 flights in a row! Good to know

by seattlebruin on Feb 9, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Alaska!

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by Eyebrows on Feb 9, 2010 11:58 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

But are they likely to have a small flight fleet in the mold of an ExpressJet?

That’s the jump that they’d need to make to become the airline of choice for more people. It’s one thing to serve a LGA over EWR, which is a pain, but at least understandable. It’s another thing entirely to serve a LVIA (Lehigh Valley, PA) or GPT (Gulfport, MS). I just don’t think that you’ll see a Southwest or JetBlue try to fly there, and so you won’t see the Deltas and Continentals of the world go away.

What you’re really saying is that they fly to medium-sized airports.

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by Faux on Feb 9, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

American Airlines, United, Delta

Are on my “Do not fly unless I absolutely need to list”

by Scruffy Lefty on Feb 9, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I really only fly Alaska, US Air and Southwest

Cannot even remember the last time I flew something else (except specialty airlines like Hawaii Air and Horizon, which I guess is Alaska still)

by seattlesundevil on Feb 9, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I flew Jet Blue once and it ruined other flights for me

watching College Bowl games on the plane was amazing.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Pretty much

and if a budget airline can afford those kinds of entertainment options plus allow you one free checked bag plus fly from smaller, more convenient airports, plus offer great fare specials, plus offer a good rewards program, plus offer healthy in-flight snacks, plus offer wonderful customer service and good routes, the big airlines can do it too.

At this point, JetBlue is honestly the model, with Alaska and Southwest not too far behind. The only thing I dislike about JetBlue is that they fly all Airbus aircraft, and not Boeing (but understandable, since from what I know, they got a great deal on their fleet)

by seattlebruin on Feb 9, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Southwest's all Boeing, though, right?

I love Southwest. JetBlue is good too but I haven’t flown it enough to know how consistent the goodness is.

by pdb on Feb 9, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Southwest is all Boeing right now, and likely to stay that way

JetBlue customer service story that completely sold me on them

I was flying to San Jose to visit a friend for his birthday, and was leaving from Long Beach Thursday morning. However, I realized on my way to the airport that I had accidentally booked my flight for Wednesday instead. Somehow, I managed to get through to their customer service at 4 AM on a Thursday, and the very helpful lady had no problem re-assigning me to the Thursday morning flight instead of the Wednesday morning flight I had missed at no extra cost besides the mandated no-show fee. I was incredibly grateful – it was a pain for her to try and squeeze me onto that flight, and they made no extra money off me, since they otherwise would have been able to sell that seat to a standby passenger who likely would have paid extra.

I got on my flight on time, and ever since then, when I’ve had the option, I’ve always chosen them, even before Alaska or Southwest. It’s even worth a few extra dollars to fly them because they have great in-flight entertainment and because I had such an easy experience with their customer service when it was well within their right to completely screw me over for missing that flight.

by seattlebruin on Feb 9, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I had an experience like that with Southwest.

Missed my flight out of NY (thanks for never showing up, LIRR!) and was able to rebook for the next day. Cost extra, but nowhere near what booking a new ticket would cost.

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by Eyebrows on Feb 9, 2010 11:54 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

To be fair, part of the reason these airlines you mention are better is because they're newer.

They purchased their aircraft when the entertainment options were cheaper and could be implemented uniformly on their fleet. Also, newer airline = less to pay for pensions / less union power / less spending on the employee base in general. Their costs will probably rise eventually.

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by Eyebrows on Feb 9, 2010 11:45 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh, absolutely

but both Delta and American are completely refitting their fleets with in-flight wireless, so it’s not as if spending extra money to improve entertainment isn’t an option. Obviously this adds to overhead, but the newer airlines are simply killing the bigger airlines in efficiency, service and convenience

by seattlebruin on Feb 9, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Again, I think the bigger point

Is the age of the workforce. Seniority, higher pay, greater benefits through more entrenched unions – carriers like JetBlue and Virgin America aren’t really dealing with that, and won’t be for a while.

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by Eyebrows on Feb 9, 2010 11:48 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed.

JetBlue was pretty cool the few times I flew with them. Haven’t flown VA yet.

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by Eyebrows on Feb 9, 2010 11:51 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Ah yeah, flying out of Long Beach was also a different experience from LAX

and having most recently flown Southwest, I would kill a man to never fly Southwest again. Thankfully it was a business commuter type flight so it was really short.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

My Southwest experience is not a good one

I flew from San Antonio to Seattle, but this was the route they took us:

San Antonio to Phoenix
Phoenix to Salt Lake City
Salt Lake City to Spokane
Spokane to Seattle

Fuck. That. Shit.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Feb 9, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, Southwest is great for point-to-point but not so great for longer hauls

I flew from Seattle to NY on Southwest once and stopped five times. Not good.

by pdb on Feb 9, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's true

I only did it because it was a free ticket. Southwest is great for going up and down the coast and that sort of thing but anything longer pretty much demands using a different carrier.

by pdb on Feb 9, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

i flew Southwest this past weekend for the first time in many years.

Why do they still do the no assigned seating deal? It’s obnoxious.

by Torrid on Feb 9, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

So they can charge you extra if you want an assigned seat!

You can pay a higher class of fare if you want an assigned seat, I believe – or maybe it’s a guarantee of getting into group A or whatever.

by pdb on Feb 9, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I will fly them only when someone else is footing the bill or I am going international

unfortunately, it looks like 85% of my travel this year will be one of those two varieties. At least I get to keep the miles from flying for work?

by seattlebruin on Feb 9, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

At least it'll be clean.

Those pillows can be scary.

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by Eyebrows on Feb 9, 2010 11:30 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

They will probably just repackage used pillows ad infinitum though

because really, who’s going to take home an airplane pillow, even if they paid for it?

by pdb on Feb 9, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

From the article it seems like a cheapie inflatable one

so it’d be less effort just to toss it.

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by Eyebrows on Feb 9, 2010 11:34 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Anyone here a fan of the FIFA games?

EA has started the BETA for FIFA Online. Read about the features here.

I just got accepted today, looks like it only works with IE at the moment though.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 11:18 AM PST reply actions  

Yikes it has a 1GB download

This isn’t quite what I was hoping it would be.

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by bluemax on Feb 9, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Just so no one misses it...

I got G to comment on the new minor league training regimens from his background in the physical therapy field.

Brief, by his standards, but good stuff

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by JY on Feb 9, 2010 12:07 PM PST reply actions  

Whatever you do do not go out to dinner on Valentines Day night

We did this last year on a whim and it was the worst night out ever – the restaurant we went to crammed twice as many tables into their space as they normally do and packed ‘em in all night. Food was still good, but it was a nightmare. Since Valentines Day is on a Sunday this year I’m cooking breakfast and that’s about it. It’s really not a holiday that’s worth worrying about.

by pdb on Feb 9, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

Valentines Day should involve going to some bar with a random girl you’ve never met before. Make sure she is socially awkward and a raging alcoholic.

~I once gave Jose Canseco $15. ~

by section331 on Feb 9, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I did that around Hanukkah once

Not that I’m Jewish, of course, but either way, I was definitely doing it wrong.

Incidentally, that was 2006. You know, the one with 50-80 mph gusts? What a night that was.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 9, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I do remember it

Our basement flooded. :(

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by section331 on Feb 9, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

That might have been some of my favorite days ever.

I really love power outages because people then decide to go fuck around outside and I’m not alone outside anymore!

by Kirk on Feb 9, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I was in Belltown with a bunch of derelicts

leaning into the wind and not falling over.

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by JY on Feb 9, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I was raised in a family where Valentine's Day was for my parents, and so I tend to not think about it at all.

plus I got the chocolate cupcakes with cinnamon gumdrop hearts earlier, for my birthday.

by msb on Feb 9, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Haven't thought about it.

I’ll probably cook dinner for us, open a nice bottle of wine, watch something like a SyFy channel movie. Everything depends on if/how much my wife has to work on Sunday.

by marc w on Feb 9, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm planning to overpay for some crappy cut flowers.

I skipped this a few years back and explained to her how much I feel like a sucker buying flowers near Valentines day. She nodded understandingly and got quiet. I ended up hauling out to a Freddys and buying a horrible bouquet after waiting in line with a bunch of other jokers.

So this year I’m going to PP market early and hoping the Hmong ladies have a reasonably priced, non-ugly bouquet. Or some nice local tulips.

by waldo rojas on Feb 9, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Hint!

As long as you don’t buy roses, flowers on Valentine’s Day aren’t nearly as overpriced as they’re made out to be. If you’re getting them delivered, it’s expensive, but buying them yourself isn’t bad at all.

by pdb on Feb 9, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Hint #2!

Never use the words “feel like a sucker” around a woman on Valentine’s Day until you’re sure she feels the same way!

by pdb on Feb 9, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Or make it a question.

“Feel like a sucker?”

by Sec 108 on Feb 9, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

This is where I am.

I hate buying flowers – unless they can be put in the ground. But my wife loves roses.

by Scruffy Lefty on Feb 9, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Ladies, please avert your eyes at this comment and its base sexism and assumptions about female nature

What most men fail to understand is that flowers are an easy gesture that says you care. Doesn’t require thought, doesn’t require work, and it makes women happy to get flowers every now and again. Don’t overthink it, just buy the damn flowers. Your romantic life will be easier and better for it.

Plus, flowers look cool.

by pdb on Feb 9, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Right. I like to think that my wife understands that the whole situation is a bit ludicrous, but that doesn't mean I'm

going to turn up without flowers and a lengthy tirade about how flowers next Sunday are just as valuable, only they’ll cost less, etc. etc.

(Though this year? I’m going to do a bouquet on the Monday after Valentine’s, because YAY! and because we have tons of flowers around the house for our Anniversary which was recentimes.)

by marc w on Feb 9, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm a bad guy and have only gotten flowers for my girl 3 times in 3 years

And the first time I did it (just a couple months in to the relationship) I had my ex put together the bouquet (she worked at a flower shop at the time)

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by tootthekazoo on Feb 9, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Tear out my living room and rewire.

Also, lay structured wiring for my multi-zone AV setup. I can’t wait to start a game on XBox downstairs, then take my controller to the bedroom and finish in bed. Once I get the deck setup with a projector, I may never leave my house again.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 9, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

My future plans involve me having a setup like this

The Mrs.-to-be is even on board with one day having a room that is strictly for movies/video games

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by tootthekazoo on Feb 9, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

My buddy has this room.. It's amazing

It’s wall to wall with seahawks gear (jerseys, balls, signed pics etc..) and paint and has a 106 inch HD Projector… I love going there when I am in Seattle

by seattlesundevil on Feb 9, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh hell no

I don’t want part of my house named after something that is almost certainly a gay night club somewhere in the U.S.

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by tootthekazoo on Feb 9, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I hear ya a thousand times over!

Also, why the hell would I want to hang out in a cave? I don’t understand it. It reminds me of bears…….. Which brings us full circle to the gay night club name once more.

by seattlesundevil on Feb 9, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Man cave is too formal

I call it a hole.

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by JY on Feb 9, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Already have mine.

Just need to paint it black and go movie poster crazy.

by Scruffy Lefty on Feb 9, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

This is the best part about buying a crappy old house.

I have to tear out all the walls anyways, so now I get to do what I want with it instead of worrying about redoing things I’ve already fixed/drywalled once.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Feb 9, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions