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That's a shame.

I haven’t listen to their recent two records a whole lot, but I think there’s a lot of impressive, albeit imperfect songwriting on “Don’t Fall in Love With Everyone You Meet” and “Down the River of Golden Dreams”, and if you opted to merge “Black Sheep Boy” and it’s appendix, that’s practically a double album, and a good one at that.

Here’s one example off Down the River that I had stuck in my head yesterday.
Maine Island Lovers (live)

And some their earliest stuff, which got me interested in the first place….
RedKansas City

I wanted to offset the slower stuff with some of their more “upbeat” fare, but couldn’t find a good quality copy of Lady Liberty.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 26, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

crap.

Linebreak need, Red and Kansas City are two different songs, two different links.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 26, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

So I've been listening to a bit of Blonde Redhead lately...

It’s fun to plot their musical trajectory from noise rock-y Sonic Youth impersonators with even worse lyrics (and some fits of screeching from Kazu Makino) to the more poppy fare they’re into now. The jump from “Melody of Certain Damaged Lemons”, which was close to their earlier sound and only added a little bit of synth, to “Misery is a Butterfly”, which had string orchestrations and more plodding slow songs while almost entirely abandoning the jam aspect, was certainly a startling leap. There are a number of songs by Makino on “Misery” that I could listen to repeat because they’re atmospheric and at least somewhat interesting. My issue with it is that every other song, i.e. the ones sung and possibly written by Pace, were awful to the point of being nearly unlistenable. “23” tried to ease out these kinks by loading the work with Makino’s songs and putting in Pace almost as an afterthought. I’ve only listened to it a few times now, but one of the things I question about it is, as the band has moved towards more traditional musical arrangements (with their own variations) and less jamming around and making scratchy noises, it puts increasing attention on their lyrics, which as I’ve said, are bad, or at the very least quite weak. It ends up being an interesting study because the change in the band’s sound is not damning because the sound is inherently worse, but because it exposes other preexisting weakness.

Just something I’ve been thinking about.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 26, 2010 1:22 PM PST reply actions  

Good choice Jeff

Ive been listening to alot of sasquatch bands this week, just seeing how this year’s lineup stacks up against years past.
But the top 5 of the week would have to be:
Halo – Heiroglyphics
Reminder – Jay Z
Microphone – Royce
Got Hungry – Obie Trice
and of course, courtesy of 1993, Ole School Shit – Eazy E

I'm Low Down and I'm Shifty, Go Mariners!

by E2ESQUARE on Feb 26, 2010 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

I got Visiter by the Dodos a week or so ago

Their songs are mad catchy and I really enjoy the odd variety of the album. Anyone know of some similar bands?

by Dewey N on Feb 26, 2010 1:37 PM PST reply actions  

Excellent! Such a great band!

Bands that I would say are kind of similar are Dirty Projectors and Department of Eagles, but to me they seems quite unique. I would love to find someone else similar as well, hopefully someone on here can help.

Husky hoops is depressing.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Feb 26, 2010 2:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Cheers!

Great way to come home from the grocery store in the rain.

On a totally different tangent I just picked up a copy of the latest Melvins album, Nude With Boots – recorded with members of Murder City Devils and Big Business. It’s more-accessible Melvins, but it still sounds like the Melvins, it’s heavy and sludgy in spots, more straightforward in others. But like most Melvins albums, it rewards repeated listens. I forgot how much I loved the Melvins – I don’t listen to Melvinsesque music much any more, but it’s good stuff.

by pdb on Feb 26, 2010 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

Nude With Boots is great

and I love the first album they did after eating Big Business (who are full touring and recording members of the Melvins, by the by) even more. It’s called (A) Senile Animal and if you like the Melvins you should definitely pick it up if you haven’t already.

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 26, 2010 4:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Just got it!

I’m only about three songs in but I really like it.

by pdb on Feb 26, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh, I hate the fact that my headphones are messed up. They're much higher quality

than the sound from my laptop so I need ’em to listen to music. Sigh…

A Mariners fan in Seattle

by Coach Owens on Feb 26, 2010 2:36 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Let the mostly ignored rap portion begin.

Thanks to the Twitter account of my absolute favorite artist, I learned of Marco Polo ft. Masta Ace - Nostalgia. Works well since I’ve been going through some Masta Ace lately.

by abender20 on Feb 26, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Not ignored at all

I listen to a lot of the stuff that’s mentioned here but don’t know enough about rap to talk about it intelligently or put it in any sort of context.

by pdb on Feb 26, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Then we push bravely forward.

Something from the way back machine, a personal favorite: Slick Rick’s Children’s Story. Also, haven’t heard of J-Live? You’re missing out. He’s a stud. Here’s a track called Satisfied and of course one of my favorites (along with the incomparable DJ Jazzy Jeff) in which he samples the famous Allen Iverson press conference. It’s also a ridiculously good track.

by abender20 on Feb 26, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Finally I can provide something to this conversation!

I love that Slick Rick song, and it always goes hand-in-hand with this Ice Cube song for me. It seems like the Ice Cube is the next step into the deep end, where the Slick Rick was about halfway down the pool, as it were. Both great songs.

by pdb on Feb 26, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Love the Slick Rick song, too.

Black Star (Mos Def and Talib Kweli) had a nice take on the song, too.

by Teej on Feb 26, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Love Black Star.

And yeah that Slick Rick song is a classic. That J-Live song is pretty good too.

Also a die-hard Hawks fan.

by Hopefulmsfan on Feb 26, 2010 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I have mentioned them before in these threads,

Buy anyone into hip hop that’s all about lyrical meaning and beat innovation needs to listen to both Shabazz Palaces EPs. They are hard to track down on the Internet as the project has been pretty anonymous but the main MC is the genius behind the Digable Planets.

Husky hoops is depressing.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Feb 26, 2010 11:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I like it.

But they play it so so much on 107.7 The End. Reminded me why I don’t listen to the radio anymore.

Also a die-hard Hawks fan.

by Hopefulmsfan on Feb 26, 2010 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I heard it when I listened to the radio in Victoria

I didn’t know how mainstream it was but I guess that makes sense.

by Mariner John on Feb 26, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's a question

have you written off an album for years, thinking “wow, this isn’t a very good album”, and then revisited it years later to realize it’s actually a good record? I dug Elvis Costello’s Spike out this morning because I wanted to hear “”http://chirls.com/v/9Znn5a-88tY/240" target="new">Tramp The Dirt Down" (one of the best angry-at-my-government songs in recent memory), and then listened to the album in its entirety. It’s really quite good, it lacks the anger of early Elvis (except for Tramp The Dirt Down), but it also avoids the overly elaborate Elvis of the mid-to-late 90’s.

I wouldn’t say it’s his best album, but it’s a lot better than I’ve been giving it credit for.

by pdb on Feb 26, 2010 3:49 PM PST reply actions  

one of the greatest albums of all time

I would put ready to die as one of the 5 best rap albums of all time, without question, right next to 3030, Life after Death, Chronic 2001 and the Marshall Mathers LP

Peace, Love and West Coast Hip Hop, Go Mariners!

by E2ESQUARE on Feb 26, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesome to see someone else who loves Del.

But Graduation by Kanye, All Eyez on Me by 2Pac, and Stankonia by OutKast are up there too. Lupe Fiasco’s The Cool and The Blueprint 3 by Jay-z are two of the best newer rap albums.

Also a die-hard Hawks fan.

by Hopefulmsfan on Feb 26, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

From what I recall, there's actually a good deal of Del love around these parts.

With the exception of Blueprint 3 — which I thought was pretty mediocre — I like your list. All Eyez on Me probably got more plays during my childhood than any other album.

With regards to Stankonia, I like it, but I think it’s Outkast’s third- or fourth-best album. Which is no knock, because Outkast has a pretty incredible catalog, but I never really understood why Stankonia stood out to so many people. It was a lot more rock-heavy than their previous work, so maybe that helped them appeal to more fans? And Bombs Over Baghdad is a masterpiece for sure. But still, when I’m in a mood for Outkast, I reach for ATLiens or Aquemini — or Southernplayalistik if I’m feeling saucy.

by Teej on Feb 26, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, Aquemini may actually be a better album.

But Stankonia has some nostalgiac value for me which means it trumps the rest of their albums. I guess that’s why these kind of lists are subjective.

Also a die-hard Hawks fan.

by Hopefulmsfan on Feb 27, 2010 4:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Incubus - Morning View

I only listened to the singles when it first came out but I listened to the whole thing last year and it’s quite good.

by Mariner John on Feb 26, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

great choice

Morning view is probably my favorite incubus CD. Light grenades and SCIENCE are both solid albums too

Peace, Love and West Coast Hip Hop, Go Mariners!

by E2ESQUARE on Feb 26, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree.

I was the same way, only listened to the first 3 songs when it came out. Now I listen to it and realize how great it is. Make Yourself and Light Grenades are both great albums as well but I’d say SCIENCE is their best. Still not a big fan of A Crow Left of the Murder although Megalomaniac is one of my favorite songs by them

Also a die-hard Hawks fan.

by Hopefulmsfan on Feb 26, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Every now and then

I listen to The PIxies’ album Bossanova, and I think “this ain’t so bad…” I still like their earlier stuff better, but it’s still a decent album.

PJ Harvey’s Rid of Me, too. I didn’t hate it, I just listened to it once and forgot about it. A few months ago I listened to it and I loved it.

by abelard on Feb 26, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm slowly coming around on the Pixies

I’ve always hated them, and over the last couple years I’m realizing i actually kinda like them.

In a related note, I hate the Sound Opinions podcast. Why? Well, I really don’t, I actually really love it and everyone should listen to it, but in the last month or so they’ve had a couple guests on that I always thought were HUGE douchebags – Frank Black and Rivers Cuomo – who actually over the course of their Sound Opinions interviews ended up sounding like really cool normal-ish dudes, which has now forced me to re-examine both my Pixies and my Weezer hatred.

I just hope to all that is holy that they never have Morrissey on, or my entire world view might be irreparably damaged.

by pdb on Feb 26, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Strange.

I never had much of an opinion about the Pixies but when I started listening to them a year or so ago, I loved them. I can’t figure out why they didn’t get more notice.

Also a die-hard Hawks fan.

by Hopefulmsfan on Feb 26, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I refuse to believe that you would hate Weezer's Pinkerton.

Other than that and the blue albu, yeah they are disappointing.

Husky hoops is depressing.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Feb 26, 2010 11:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

My hate for Weezer is almost solely based on my hate for Rivers Cuomo

and as I say I have to revisit that now that he doesn’t appear to be the douchebag I always thought he was. I’ll give Pinkerton another listen.

by pdb on Feb 27, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he's more fucking insane than a douchebag

which doesn’t mean he’s not a douchebag, just that he’s really, really insane.

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 27, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

You should go listen to the Sound Opinions I linked to above

he comes off as a truly normal dude, not insane at all. When he found out Sound Opinions wanted to interview him and have him perform, he gave them two conditions: First, the hosts get to pick the songs that he performs, and second, they also get to pick the backup band he plays with. It turned out really cool. And he just seems so much more normal than I would have thought – I always thought he was the epitome of post-ironic detachment douchebaggery, with his cute/clever lyrics, but he’s really not. It’s a good interview.

by pdb on Feb 27, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I think that his normal-dude-ness is part of why he's crazy though, at least as an artist.

He was so crushed when Pinkerton flopped that he had a complete nervous breakdown and vowed never to make anything besides boring, lowest-common-denominator pop again.

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 27, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

So why release two albums-worth of bedroom demos?

The weezer output has been remarkably pedestrian, even cloying, but it seems he’s capable of releasing other types of music (setting aside the issue of whether those other styles are worth listening to or not).

by marc w on Feb 28, 2010 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Pixies >>>> Weezer

That Buddy Holly song is pretty cool, but… Doolittle, Doolittle, Doolittle.

by Steven was taken on Feb 27, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Pinkerton is one of the best three albums of the 1990s.

Taken over their whole career, yeah, the Pixies are better (mainly because everything Weezer did after Pinkerton was abominable) but at their apex? Weezer blows them out of the water.

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 27, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll bite.

What are the other two best albums?

by katal on Feb 27, 2010 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Nevermind and OK Computer.

Doggystyle and The Soft Bulletin.

Odelay and Slanted & Enchanted.

by katal on Feb 27, 2010 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice

I probably agree… and appreciate that you recognize In Utero’s superiority to anything else in the Nirvana oeuvre. Counting 69 Love Songs as a single album might be cheating though. :)

by johnbai on Feb 28, 2010 1:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice choices.

I haven’t listened to either one of those in a long while. Thanks for making it easy for me to decide what to play on my way to work this week!

by katal on Feb 28, 2010 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmmmm...

I listened to some PJ Harvey a few years back. She’s not a bad vocalist, but I found most of her songs to be pretty similar lyrically, and not particularly well-crafted, and it got to the point where it drove me crazy and I couldn’t listen to it anymore.

I’ll have to get back to you on Bossanova though, it’s been a while since I’ve heard it.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 26, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Rid of Me is probably her best

I’m kinda with you on PJ Harvey, she’s very hard to listen to for a long time, but Rid Of Me is a really good album, probably because she’s bitter and angry and I love that.

by pdb on Feb 26, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Bitter and angry, eh?

Sort of how Cat Power has been a bit less interesting now that she’s relatively stable?

I don’t know if that’s the best comparison, but everything I’ve heard since “You Are Free” has failed to make any kind of impression on me. Still can sing, no doubt, but it lacks the gazing into the abyss aspect that made “What Would the Community Think?” so haunting at times, or the focused melancholy of “Moon Pix”, and I miss that.

End tangent!

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 26, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know that much about Cat Power to be honest

but I will say that PJ Harvey’s “happy” album (Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea) is pretty dull, except for the duet with Thom Yorke, which is pretty interesting. Especially since I’m not a big Radiohead fan.

by pdb on Feb 26, 2010 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

That's the album of her's that I'm probably most familiar with.

I found that one to be especially tedious.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 26, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it's really not that great

I would say Rid Of Me is her best, and then To Bring You My Love (which features one of the creepiest songs that I have in my library), and the rest is really kinda not up to that level.

by pdb on Feb 26, 2010 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I only relistened

to Rid of Me after I discovered that Steve Albini produced it and a lot of other albums/groups that I like.

It’s great to listen to just because she sounds so unrestrictedly crazy. Songs like 50 foot queenie and Rub Til It Bleeds are just flat out disturbing, and I enjoy that in music.

by abelard on Feb 26, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Steve Albini is one of my favorite working producers

in no small part because he works on a “pay-as-you-can” scale; if you’re a big band like the Pixies or Nirvana or something he will gladly take the dump truck full of money you drive up to his back door, but if you’re an unsigned band looking to self-release or do a demo and he likes your music, he’ll do it practically for free.

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 26, 2010 11:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, somewhat frequently.

I recently dug up Okkervil River’s “Down the River of Golden Dreams” (I’m sure this will be a surprise to all of you) after many years of owning it and not listening to it and thought “hey, this is all right!”

I’ve had similar experiences recently with Sonic Youth’s “Murray Street”, which I mostly used to listen to for “Disconnection Notice”, the first Stone Roses album over the summer (curiously, I had liked the second one better, though I find “Ten-Storey Love Song” to be agonizing), and a number of Tom Waits albums since getting into him a few years ago, and most recently it was discovering that I really liked “The Black Rider”, but refuse to listen to it any time other than in the fall, and that there were some rather brilliant songs on “Foreign Affairs”, like “Muriel” and “Burma Shave”.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 26, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha
refuse to listen to it any time other than in the fall

I do this with Daisies of the Galaxy by Eels. In the summer, I mean.

by Eyeball Kid on Feb 26, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh god I love Murray Street

an amazing return to form for a band that I used to love and then got all wanky.

by pdb on Feb 26, 2010 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to

Really gloss over The Talking Heads More Songs About Buildings and Food, preferring Fear of Music, 77, and Little Creatures. I heard one of the songs from the album on a podcast and thought it was a great Talking Heads song that I wasn’t familiar with.

Turns out it was on More Songs About Buildings and Food so I went and listened to the album in its entirety and now it’s my favorite Talking Heads album!

by ungoreatstefan on Feb 27, 2010 7:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not into it myself

but a friend of mine is so I get the occasional track pop up on my facebook news feed.

by Eyeball Kid on Feb 26, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

So let's talk about creepy and disturbing songs

The PJ Harvey comment I made above made me think about all the disturbing songs I have in my library.

There’s the aforementioned Down By The Water
There’s The Boiler (the single is waaaaaaay more disturbing than this version, which is saying something)
There’s Where The Wild Roses Grow
There’s Down In The Tube Station At Midnight

I’m sure there’s a ton more but that’s all the depression I can handle right now. Whaddaya got?

by pdb on Feb 26, 2010 8:08 PM PST reply actions  

Hmmmm...

This is mostly off the top of my head, but….

Cat Power – Nude as the News (with music video!, which is one of the reason why it makes it over other songs on the same album)
The National – Brainy (mostly for its lyrics)
Portishead – Seven Months (don’t fuck around with Beth Gibbons because she is scary)

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 26, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

They're going with her strengths, I'd say.

“Dummy” has that subtext if you want to read into it, but it wasn’t until the s/t that she really started to run with it. And boy did she ever. When I first listened to “Third” I had to put it aside for a few months afterward because listening to it had the effect of making me paranoid and uncomfortable for the rest of the day. I later decided this was awesome, but the album isn’t strong enough as a unit to make me list it as a response to pdb’s earlier question.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 26, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's another obvious one.

David Bowie – The Bewlay Brothers

Also known as Bowie’s effort to throw a bunch of clashing and vaguely disturbing images into a single song just to see what the stupid Yanks read into it.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 26, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, this is in my wheelhouse

I’m not going to search things out on youtube, but scanning my iTunes library I come up with:

My Curse by the Afghan Whigs
Misery by Scrawl
Kerosene by Big Black
Damaged I by Black Flag
The Incest Trilogy (The Holiday Song, Nimrod’s Son, Broken Face) by The Pixies
Humor Me, Heart of Darkness, and 30 Seconds Over Tokyo by Pere Ubu (or anything else off their early albums, it’s all weird and disturbing)
She’s Like Heroin To Me by The Gun Club (or various songs off their last album)
Penetration by the Stooges, or Sixteen by Iggy Pop
Calculated and Terrorist by Heavens to Betsy
Diet Pill by L7

  • and Run by Liz Phair
    Venus in Furs and/or Heroin by The Velvet Underground
    Champions of Nothing by Matthew Good
    CCKMP by Steve Earle
    Via Chicago and She’s A Jar by Wilco
    Dead Men Don’t Rape and MIA by 7 Year Bitch
    Where Did You Sleep Last Night by Nirvana

by abelard on Feb 26, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

What immediately pops into my head

Is The Decemberists – The Rake, I mean it’s all about killing your children because you want to go live the life of a bachelor again. Actually, a lot of their songs. I mean you think oh it’s a whimsical song about sailors and nautical adventures, but then it’s actually sad songs about sailors raping princesses or ladies of the evening.

Drive By Truckers – That Man I Shot, how a man deals with killing someone during war. It’s pretty haunting, and even more amazing and haunting live. I mean this verse right here kills me every time,

“That man I shot, I still can see him
When I should be sleeping, tossing and turning
He’s looking at me, eyes looking through me
Break out in cold sweats when I see him standing there”

I think Jumpers by Sleater-Kinney is pretty disturbing as well with some beautiful lyrics.

by ungoreatstefan on Feb 27, 2010 7:30 AM PST up reply actions  

One that immediately comes to mind for me

Ride The Wings Of Pestilence by From First To Last

Chorus:
“I’ll hide you in my walls
Your body will never be found
I’ll wear your skin as a suit
Pretend to be you
Your friends will like you more than they used to”

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Feb 27, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

You'll get over it.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 26, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I listen to plenty of mainstream stuff

I thought these threads were more about exposing some of the lesser-known stuff people listen to.

by Eyeball Kid on Feb 26, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I've never listened to either of them.

And were they not mentioned here, I would probably not remember that they exist.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 26, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't know we were trying that hard?

It can’t hurt to know about these things though. As a community, we’re a pretty solid music resource and there’s usually at least one of us that can provide suggestions for a certain taste.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 26, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree completely

This kind of thread just confirmed my suspicion that I don’t know jack shit about music in general.

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by Griffin Cooper on Feb 27, 2010 12:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I love BB's 2nd and 3rd albums.

Ann 3 Days Grace is fun but their lyrics aren’t exactly great. I do enjoy them though.

Also a die-hard Hawks fan.

by Hopefulmsfan on Feb 26, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

WANA and Phobia are both awesome

I like Dear Agony better than either, though. And yeah, BB definitely does have better lyrics and depends less on catchy choruses.

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by Griffin Cooper on Feb 27, 2010 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I have more mainstream tastes than a lot here.

But I don’t really like either of those bands much anymore. They aren’t TERRIBLE but they are decidedly average.

by Mariner John on Feb 26, 2010 11:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I've been listening to so much music lately.

But Temper Trap is a band I’ve recently gotten into and I think Drake is the best new rapper lately. But Hurt is my choice for best new badn of the last decade. Imagine Tool meets Live.

Also a die-hard Hawks fan.

by Hopefulmsfan on Feb 26, 2010 10:57 PM PST reply actions  

Dammit.

*band.

Also a die-hard Hawks fan.

by Hopefulmsfan on Feb 26, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Sweet Disposition is good by Temper Trap.

And Drake seems less terrible than most mainstream rap.

by Mariner John on Feb 26, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I first heard him on that Best I Ever Had song.

Wasn’t sure what to think of him but his ep was completely different. Weird to think he was on DeGrassi.
And Sweet Disposition was the first song I heard by them when I watched (500) Days of Summer. Love the Regina Spektor and Wolfmother songs in that movie as well.

Also a die-hard Hawks fan.

by Hopefulmsfan on Feb 26, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone a fan of the Shout Out Louds?

They came out with an album in the last week and I’m hoping it’s as good as their first two albums.

by Scrupio on Feb 26, 2010 11:04 PM PST reply actions  

It's....different.

Not a lot of real singles, which isn’t necessarily bad, but not sure that its brand of ‘different’ is as good.

I thought ‘Our Ill Wills’ was really up and down, so who knows….

by marc w on Feb 28, 2010 12:23 AM PST up reply actions  

My buddy and I made breakup mixes for each other

As belated Valentines Day presents. On my mix was Japandroid’s song I Quit GIrls. I had never heard them before, but they’re fantastic! I’ve been listening to their album almost all week.

Ive also been listening to a lot of Miles Davis, specifically Bitches Brew.

I’ve also been going over The Replacements catalog because a friend said Tim is their best album, when it’s obviously Let It Be (this argument is just a bunch of hyperbole back and forth).

Lastly, I’ve been listening to Ryan Adam’s Love Is Hell, the albums I listen to would seem to suggest I’m hella depressed about girls. But, when that happens it’s The Modern Lovers all the time until I feel better.

by ungoreatstefan on Feb 27, 2010 7:17 AM PST reply actions  

Oh I agree

They’re both fantastic albums, and I don’t think a week goes by where I don’t listen to both albums. Let It Be just happens to be my preferred of the two. Largely for Sixteen Blue, Answering Machine, and Unsatisfied.

by ungoreatstefan on Feb 27, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Bitches Brew is excellent.

I need to revisit it soon.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 27, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

It's absolutely outsanding

Have you heard Sketches of Spain? I think it’s really underrated but he did a lot of great things with that album. I think he really captured the feel of Spanish music in, and while it lacks more of the free flowing improv of jazz, I think he created something really beautiful.

by ungoreatstefan on Feb 27, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

No, I haven't.

But I remember being one of those weirdos who was more receptive to Bitches Brew than Kind of Blue. I’ll look into it, perhaps.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 27, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

You're not alone.

I like Kind of Blue, but I much prefer Bitches Brew.

by BrianL on Feb 27, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I've never been a really big jazz fan, and I definitely know diddly about it.

That said, of the Miles Davis I’ve heard, I have always loved Ascenseur Pour L’Echafaud.

by royalcurve on Feb 28, 2010 1:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I've been listening to a lot of country lately.

It occurred to me about a year ago that while everyone knows artists like Johnny Cash or Willie Nelson, both musicians are really only known for a handful of songs each.

I picked up Nelson’s Red Headed Stranger & Shotgun Willie albums, as well as Cash albums from the ‘60s like Ride This Train and Blood Sweat and Tears. They were great & led me in the direction of Kris Kristeroffson, and from there the Highwaymen. I was surprised I had never heard of this band; it’s basically a country version of the Traveling Wilburys. Very good music.

From here I branched out into some of Elvis’s more country albums. I’ve never been an Elvis fan at all, but that said, his 1969 album From Elvis In Memphis is spectacular. It sounds nothing like the rubbish I knew him for.

Then I decided to give modern alt-country a try. The only artists of this genre I’ve really ever listened to have been Ryan Adams and Lucinda Williams. I downloaded Phosphorescent’s recent album of Willie Nelson covers, and it was wonderful. I also finally got around to listening to Drive By Truckers, who I have mixed feelings on, but I suspect their music will grow on me.

by katal on Feb 27, 2010 8:42 AM PST reply actions  

What Drive By Truckers album did you get?

I think their best work is Brighter Than Creations Dark, it’s insanely good. Give them time, it took me a little bit to really get into their stuff, but now they’re one of my favorites.

Other acts you might want to check out, Heartless Bastards and Neko Case.

by ungoreatstefan on Feb 27, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

How I missed mentioning Neko Case, I have no idea. Love her.

I’ll check out Heartless Bastards. Thanks.

I listened to A Blessing and a Curse and Southern Rock Opera. I have a few other albums of theirs I have yet to get to, though. I’ll give BTCD a listen today.

by katal on Feb 27, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

If you already love Neko

I think you’ll really enjoy Heartless Bastards, three piece country band with a breathy female lead singer. I actually like her singing better than Neko!

The Dirty South is another really good DBT album, I’m interested to hear what you think.

by ungoreatstefan on Feb 27, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Not sure I'd call Heartless Bastards 'alt country' - but they're pretty damn cool.

Blues /= country, but yeah, if you like a lot of that one thing, you might like a lot of the other.

by marc w on Feb 28, 2010 12:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I think

With each subsequent album they’ve gotten less blues-y and more country – but, we’re probably splitting unnecessary hairs. You’re definitely correct that you’ll probably like both genres.

by ungoreatstefan on Feb 28, 2010 7:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Hem

Kasey Chambers & Shane Nicholson
Son Volt
Richard Buckner
Old ’97s

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Feb 27, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

The Pernice Brothers

released a double album under the name Scud Mountain Boys that is absolutely fucking beautiful. I guarantee that you’ll love it Katal.

by johnbai on Feb 28, 2010 1:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I really liked that.

Thank you. I just ordered Live A Little and Overcome by Happiness from the library. I’m looking forward to giving them a listen!

by katal on Feb 28, 2010 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

When I was a freshman, Talib Kweli came to play a show at my school. He was opened for by RJD2. I thought RJD2 sucked.

Maybe I just didn’t have an appreciation for what he did or maybe it just isn’t meant to be done live, but I think the crowd was pretty close to booing RJD2. Fast forward several years and I discovered that I actually like his stuff, especially Loose Ends. Even if you aren’t into hip hop, there are some other artists on there and he does a brilliant job with it. Mos Def and Diverse, Cunninlynguists ft. Masta Ace (This track is amazing), Vast Aire , and if you are ok with the more aggressive Weathermen, have at that too. .

Anyway, has anyone else been first exposed to an artist live, disliked them strongly, and then later enjoyed them immensely?

by abender20 on Feb 27, 2010 9:41 AM PST reply actions  

For jazz fans

I recently bought a copy of Sachal Vasandani’s newest album We Move.

Probably one of the best jazz albums I’ve purchased in a few years. It’s small-ensemble vocal stuff with some gorgeous chord changes throughout. The title track alone is worth the purchase.

by BrianL on Feb 27, 2010 1:40 PM PST reply actions  

Since there is a good appreciation for quality hip-hop here.

I’ll throw out the Crown City Rockers as an incredible act. Their album Earthtones is one of my favorites and I have yet to see a better live show. I don’t meet to many people who have heard of them.

by ABQmsFan on Feb 27, 2010 1:41 PM PST reply actions  

Playing off of abender's idea from above

Anybody ever seen an artist live before having heard any of their recordings, but then found out later that the band just doesn’t work for you at all unless they are live?

Additionally, ever been to a show where the opening act was so great that you became a fan on the spot?

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Feb 27, 2010 2:24 PM PST reply actions  

I caught Incubus as an opening act for the Deftones on their White Pony tour ('99, I think?)

Incubus was excellent as a live act, and although I was (and still am) very lukewarm on their recorded material I still have them in high regard as a live band, at least back then. Also at that show was Taproot. Had not ever heard of them before, and they rocked my socks off during that show and I became a pretty solid fan

Experienced Coheed and Cambria for the very first time as an opener for Thursday many years back, and they’ve become one of my most favorite groups as well

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Feb 27, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I have at least a few...

Only good live:
Alexisonfire – Great energy, the crowd was into every song even though they weren’t an opener. Never could stand their records.
Sims – Opened for POS, was excellent, recorded stuff is meh.

Instant fan:
Westbound Train – Impeccable live performance.

A little different, I saw the Aggrolites live, and then after that I could never listen to their recorded material again.

by lailaihei on Feb 27, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw My Morning Jacket open for Doves back in 2002.

Doves were good in their own right, but My Morning Jacket completely blew them out of the water. I became a fan on the spot. For a while, they were one of those “only good when they’re live” bands for me, but I’ve since learned to really enjoy their albums.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Feb 27, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Melt Banana, kind of.

I like their records okay, but seeing them live is one of the most mind-blowing experiences I’ve ever had.

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 27, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

sweet

I love Melt Banana so good!

by xxtinynickxx on Feb 27, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Any number of anonymous punk bands

This happens a lot – I have a great time at a show, buy a cd, listen to it, then never play it again. I often wonder if it’s that the ‘band is awesome live’ or ‘I was inebriated when they played.’

by marc w on Feb 28, 2010 12:32 AM PST up reply actions  

King Khan and the Shrines last year at SXSW.

I saw them live twice last year and they put on an amazing show. I bought the album and it was pretty good, but whenever I listen to it it just makes me want to see them live because it’s so much better. They are playing at Neumos on April 13.

by SFGraham on Feb 28, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

One of the crazies days ever in Seattle

During the day went to see Botch at the Velvet Elvis with Scathed opened up, Kid Dynamite was suppose to be there but they had some problems with their van. But Botch brought the house down so much fun. That night made our way to Wallingford to a little hole in the wall theater to see Hangfire Disaster and Teen Cthulu play, that was even crazier the place was packed wall to wall full of people. Left With Nothing I think was suppose to play but canceled cus the place was very hard to find. That whole day was insanity of Music, Buses and record stores. Such a good day……the late 90’s were fun for music.

by xxtinynickxx on Feb 27, 2010 5:39 PM PST reply actions  

Well this piece just relaxes me everytime I hear it and I've been trying to learn it on the piano.

Clair de Lune – Claude Debussey

Clair De Lune means moonlight in French so that probably saves you a trip to google translate. It’s one of the more well known “classical” music pieces (I actually think it’s from the Romantic period but the average person doesn’t know the difference any way.) It’s easily recognized but the thing that bugs me is whenever I try to practice it, somebody says “ohhh that was from Twilight!”

You got slurved!

by Slurvey on Feb 27, 2010 8:40 PM PST reply actions  

It is indeed a fantastic piano piece.

I wrote about it as part of a paper for a music class once. Good times.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 27, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah, I had tens of classmates whom I could expect to do that for me.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 28, 2010 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Really, you can't go wrong with any of them.

Though if I were to recommend a starting place, it’d be "Fox Confessor Brings the Flood’, and that just barely beats out “Blacklisted”. I think “Blacklisted” is the better album, but “Fox Confessor…” is a little easier to get into.

Regardless, you should listen to “Deep Red Bells”, which is track 2 on “Blacklisted”. It’s pretty much the ultimate Neko song: incredible song writing, amazing vocals, and a fantastic outro.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Feb 28, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Furnace Room Lullaby

Deep Red Bells is close to the ultimate Neko song, but I might go for “Furnace Room Lullaby”

by marc w on Mar 1, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

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