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I'm really not a fan of prospect lists. I like the idea of providing content in an easy to understand format and I like information about prospects. I like to the think the goal of most prospect lists is to inform people about the various players that they might not otherwise be exposed to. That's a good goal. But it strikes me that most of the time the result of a prospect list is about 5% of time spent talking about prospects and the other 95% is spent bickering about the ranking of the prospects. I spent a good 10 minutes once and I just didn't find within me the ability to care.

I still find information about prospects useful however and Baseball America is one of the best at compiling good info. Their list of the top 100 prospects in baseball just came out. The link is here but BA's site might be doing a server time share with USSM because it keeps going down and there is no cached version as of yet. Per Dave the Mariners have:

 

 

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Alex Liddi – is his defense good or bad? I have read conflicting reports on this, but I was always under the impression that he was supposedly very good

by seattlebruin on Feb 23, 2010 11:19 AM PST reply actions  

It's good.

I don’t know where the negatives come from as they don’t have much of a leg to stand on so far as I know. Liddi’s RF/9 was among the best in the league at his position, his +/- ranked well, and he was voted by the league’s coaches as being the best glove at his position. When all of those things are in agreement, it casts serious doubt on the dissenting opinions which claim he absolutely has to move to first.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 23, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Crap. TotalZone.

You can find it on MinorLeagueSplits.com when you click the defense tab. I associated the two because there’s positive and negative scores I guess.

Anyway, he was an overall 6 in the positive column, which makes him above-average, though not very good or elite. His glovework, based off of these rankings, at least seems to be improving.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 23, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Range Factor per 9 innings, I think.

It’s slightly less worthless than fielding percentage. Slightly.

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Feb 23, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Copy of the full list here

If BA is acting funky for anyone. It’s a movie site generally but has a few baseball folks around and has a good server – that won’t be flooded by every single fan for every team in the game.

Cinema Blend

by ExiledToSoCal on Feb 23, 2010 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

Huh, Feliz all the way down to #9?

Guess they’re really worried about the whole starter-reliever thing

by seattlebruin on Feb 23, 2010 11:29 AM PST reply actions  

Well...
Feliz can make a case for having one of the most devastating changeups and fastballs.

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Feb 23, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Some people still seem to think that

even if he spends all of this year in the pen, then that’s where he’ll always be. Which JD has said many times is false.

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Feb 23, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesome

I had no idea that Moore was so highly regarded outside the organization. I know catchers are premium, but he doesn’t have a stellar defensive reputation, he’s not young, and his numbers aren’t very outstanding. I had always written the Mariners’ commitment to him as a winner by default kind of situation. It’s nice to have an independent source confirm their faith in him.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 23, 2010 11:30 AM PST reply actions  

His defense has improved, particularly over the past year or so.

In that he’s no longer passing balls all the time still throwing dudes out at a good clip.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 23, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Has there been any news regarding how Ackley is looking at second?

I have no idea how much work there he may have got in during the offseason.

by BrianL on Feb 23, 2010 11:44 AM PST reply actions  

Here is everything I have heard.

-Ackley looks good at second base.
-Ackley as been getting regular time at second in practice since the start of the year at the team “mini-camp”.
-Physically Ackley should be able to play second base, based after what the coaches have said. Ackley’s body and reaction time is all there.
-No one knows if this will work until Ackley starts playing games at 2B.

My guess is Ackley plays a bunch of late innings of early Spring Training games after starters hit the showers. Ackley may get some starts in split squad games. We will hear something of substance in mid to late March, something like “Wow! Ackley is great. We are going to start him off in AA!” Or “Things are coming along slower than we had hoped. We will hold him back here for some extended spring training then send him to a single A team when we think he is ready.”

Or the team will trade J-Lo, Gerret Olsen, and Doug Fister for Cole Hamels and Ackley will be the opening day starter. Who knows with this front office.

by mark sobba on Feb 23, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Latest from Arizona

Drayer reports he’s been doing drills with Wilson under the eyes of the coaches:

It was Wak’s first good look at Ackley and it was clear he liked what he saw.
“I like his footwork, I like his athleticism. There are little things he will have to work on on but I was pretty impressed. He has some agility out there, some range.”

by wandergeist on Feb 27, 2010 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Angels don't have anyone ahead of Moore

could it be their farm has finally been sapped?

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 23, 2010 11:44 AM PST reply actions  

If he were still a prospect, he could play with the 1946 Spokane Indians.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 23, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions   7 recs

.

Okay, no one got it.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://www.marinersminors.com/

by JY on Feb 23, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that kind of like the George Costanza thing about MLB teams on airplanes?

http://www.realmofdarkness.net/sounds/seinfeld/costanza-soundboard-2.htm

Go down to the option called Baseball Plane Crash.

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on Feb 23, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

We can make Adenhart jokes in here?

I’m getting crucified other places. Here, people get recs!

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Feb 23, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

But be warned

we also make Josh Hamilton jokes. A thick skin and a good sense of humor will go a long way ’round these parts.

by pdb on Feb 23, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Hamilton's fair game, but an easy target

I look forward to the banter

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Feb 23, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

You guys are terrible, terrible people.

Hilarious, but terrible people.

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on Feb 23, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

This made me laugh. Welp, so much for heaven for me.

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Feb 23, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure...

That woman in the photo is Crankee Yankee.

by Devin on Feb 23, 2010 1:08 PM PST reply actions  

It's not.

Hopefully, she’ll move down to AZ and hassle all of you who get to go to Spring Training. Cheney Stadium’s served its sentence.

by marc w on Feb 23, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

God I hope not.

FUCK ERIC BYRNES FUCK ERIC BYRNES!

by Goose on Feb 23, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

To put what Dave said in different words

The reason the Rangers are terrifying is that, while we have one Ackley, they have three prospects about as good. Plus Andrus.

by Jeff Sullivan on Feb 23, 2010 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

But he was valuable as a third baseman

and holy shit, back to back years of ~ -25 at short? That’s like Yuni!

by seattlebruin on Feb 23, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I love Yuni so much more

now that he doesn’t play for us.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Feb 23, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

at least we only have him signed for

oh about 3 years/ $50 million left

"Drinks are on me if Lewis posts >168IP and an era lower than 3.86." by RangerMad on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM PST

by jam0152 on Feb 23, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I've always advocated to just let Elvis play the space between third and second

and just run with a fourth outfielder.

"grilled cheese punches like a bitch" -Gdawg
"i feel like k-rod after a save." -by reagan on Jan 23, 2010, that glorious day Hicks was out of our lives.

by AceJC on Feb 23, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm thoroughly excited to see what Ackley will do in the minors this year.

Also, welcome back to world of posting, Matthew! Although you may have been doing our collective productivity a favor, as Graham’s Sabre101 installments have been flying in at a furious pace. Too much of a good thing, you know.

by abender20 on Feb 23, 2010 3:09 PM PST reply actions  

Me too

I’d love to see Ackley get a September call-up (how ever unlikely that maybe). I wonder how quick it’ll take for him to get to Tacoma.

Right now I'm dreaming of Carl Crawford. Maybe next year...(or this year at the trade deadline)...

by SeaKoala on Feb 23, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the odds are pretty good he'll get a September call-up.

You never know, but they’d probably think it’s better for him to get a feel for the Major Leagues even if he hardly gets to play.

by nathaniel dawson on Feb 23, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

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