Chris Antonetti in '11? (For the Indians)

Press conference at 1:30pm ET (10:30am PT). Apparently, they're expected to announce that after 2010, Mark Shapiro will be promoted to Team President of the Cleveland Indians. Chris Antonetti, meanwhile, will moves from his long-time assistant role to the GM slot.

If it goes down as expected, I can't wait to see the Indians' 2010 offseason. As a quick refresher, Chris Antonetti represents the type of GM we really wanted to have after the Bavasi era finished (See Dave Cameron's "Antonetti in '08" profile from 2006). And as yet another reminder, Jack Zduriencik became the type of GM we really wanted to have after the Bavasi era finished.

Go, Indians!

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I imagine this will barely change anything over there

by Jeff Sullivan on Feb 18, 2010 11:32 AM PST reply actions

Yeah isn't Mark Shapiro also really smart

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by Griffin Cooper on Feb 18, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions

They could be looking for a different approach or ideas within their organizaion (like Alex Anthopoulos?)

Though Mark Shapiro would still be over Antonetti so Jeff could be right. I dunno. These folks know more about this org than I do.

by ThundaPC on Feb 18, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions

Antonetti's been doing more and more of the GM stuff for at least a year now

and as Shapiro’s understudy, I imagine that, philosophically, he is very similar.

by Jeff Sullivan on Feb 18, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions

Yea, that makes sense.

by ThundaPC on Feb 18, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions

This was pretty much a foregone conlcusion right?

by vivaelpujols on Feb 18, 2010 9:38 PM PST reply actions

It was if they wanted things to keep going exactly as they have been

If they wanted a big change, they would’ve gone outside the org. If we assume the ownership has been reasonably happy with the FO and saw no reason to shake it up, yeah this is what you’d expect.

by wandergeist on Feb 18, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions

I find it interesting how the Indians are considered to be so well-run

In the 9 years since Shapiro has taken over as GM, they have made the postseason exactly once (2007), and have had as many 90-loss seasons(2003, 2009) as they have had 90-win seasons(2005, 2007), despite playing in the relatively weak AL Central, that has had no real juggernaut(like Boston, NYY or LAA).

by niceguysfinishlast on Feb 18, 2010 11:49 PM PST reply actions

Well look at their payrolls over that span.

(from Cot’s)

2009: $ 81,579,166
2008: $ 78,970,066
2007: $ 61,673,267
2006: $ 56,031,500
2005: $ 41,502,500
2004: $ 34,319,300
2003: $ 48,584,834
2002: $ 78,909,499
2001: $ 93,360,000

It’s not like their highest payroll years are their highest win years though.

by $cHu on Feb 19, 2010 12:49 AM PST up reply actions

True but

The Twins have had a roughly similar payroll throughout the decade:
(from Cot’s)

2009: $ 65,299,266
2008: $ 56,932,766
2007: $ 71,439,500
2006: $ 63,396,006
2005: $ 56,186,000
2004: $ 53,585,000
2003: $ 55,505,000
2002: $ 40,225,000
2001: $ 24,130,000

And they managed 5 playoff appearances, four 90 win seasons, and only one losing season. So I don’t feel that the Indians’ success despite their payroll is any more impressive than Minnesota’s…

by niceguysfinishlast on Feb 19, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions

They're considered to be well-run because they are well run.

They make smart decisions, use good processes and employ a lot of very smart people. Their biggest problems is that several of the biggest risks they have taken have blown up in their faces.

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 21, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions