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Ryan Garko, Seattle Mariner

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SEATTLE(AP)—Ryan Garko and the Mariners have agreed to a $550,000, one-year contract, as Seattle tries to address its need for a right-handed hitter.

Terms of the contract obtained Monday by The Associated Press show the 29-year-old first baseman and designated hitter could nearly double his salary, to $1,075,000, if he becomes a regular for Seattle with 600 plate appearances.

Garko's a lousy baserunner and he can't really play defense, but he's got a career .313/.392/.495 batting line against lefties, which was good enough to find him an employer. Of course, that batting line has come over just 485 plate appearances and built in is a .336 BABIP, so, y'know, whatever. We'll see how this goes. More later when one of us has a little more time, but at first thought, this has to mean they're going with an 11-man pitching staff, right?

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There not locked in to 4 OFs

The make a roster move if/when needed. Figgins, Griffey, and Garko can play there in a pinch.

by morrow on Feb 1, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just saying I do not think they will take this approach

But I don’t know, because I’m already surprised.

by Jeff Sullivan on Feb 1, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm surprised too

Because it means I was right and that never happens.

by morrow on Feb 1, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think they go with a 12 man staff now

I do think they’ll demote Langerhans, though. We’re kinda in need of another guy who can play the infield in a pinch.

by Graham on Feb 1, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not really.

All I am saying is that I would like a very cheap RH utility infielder on the roster. Tui?

by Graham on Feb 1, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

For $550K, why the hell not?

he’s definitely a better hitter than Tui at this point of their respective careers

by seattlebruin on Feb 1, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Soooo my rough depth chart right now

CF: Guti, Byrnes, Ichiro, Figgins
RF: Ichiro, Byrnes, Bradley, Garko, Figgins
LF: Byrnes, Bradley, Garko, Figgins
SS: Wilson, Hannahan, Tui, Figgins,
2B: Lopez, Hannahan, Tui, Figgins
3B: Figgins, Hannahan, Tui
1B: Kotchman, Garko
DH: Bradley, Griffey, Garko
C: Johnson, Bard.

Figgins can be our cover for anything really stupid happening more or less anywhere.

by Graham on Feb 1, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why would we rather have Byrnes than Langerhans?

is it because we have a chance to retain Langerhans if he doesn’t make the 25-man while Byrnes we would certainly lose if he doesn’t make the roster?

by seattlebruin on Feb 1, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares who the OF is "in a pinch"?

Byrnes/Langerhans will be the fourth OF.

by morrow on Feb 1, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's brilliant!

Only takes up one roster spot.

by nathaniel dawson on Feb 1, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kind of like that Ichiro!Figgins guy

Who bats at the top of the order.

Think if Zduriencik could convince both Eric and Ryan to change their last names to Byrnes-Garko (or maybe Garkobyrnes), the league would notice?

(They’d have support from the top, since one of the M’s owners did something similar)

by wandergeist on Feb 1, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Does that mean that RRS is actually two people?

That’d be cool if one of them was right-handed, he could be his own relief specialist.

by nathaniel dawson on Feb 1, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ambidextrious pitcher

I don't care how well he does for the M's...FUCK ENDY CHAVEZ

by Fuzz on Feb 1, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What happened to that kid

Who threw with both arms? He had a special glove made with two thumbs (on on either side) so he could switch throwing arms from batter to batter. (Whatever league he was playing in decided he had to declare which way he was pitching as the batter stepped in, to avoid an endless dance when he faced a switch hitter).

by wandergeist on Feb 1, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"In a pinch" precisely means

that some unlikely scenario arises where we’ve already used our 4th OFer, and then one of our OFers gets injured.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Feb 1, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know.

I was just wondering why Graham listed Garko third in the depth chart of OFers instead of Tui. Simply a curiousity question of their relative terribleness in the OF.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Feb 1, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I mean,

Where’s Moore on that depth chart? Graham, are you thinking that he starts out in AAA?

by C-Nage on Feb 1, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So Tui's the new Princess Willie.

Local kid does well. Also has tha advantage of not sucking like Princess Willie.

by eponymous_coward on Feb 1, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He still might be ~Mike Morse.

So, in the event that we lose Langerhans after DFAing him during the season…

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Feb 1, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Griffey

was joking once last year, when it looked like they would need someone to go to the outfield, finding his glove, making a big show of blowing the dust off of it.

Luckily it was just in fun.

by Paul AB on Feb 1, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"In a pinch" is not a backup plan

Byrnes/Langerhans is the backup plan. Figgins, Griffey, and Garko are more than adequate as the 5th OF until a roster move could be made.

by morrow on Feb 1, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bradley

The Cubs didn’t have Saunders as Plan B. Either of Byrnes/Langerhans is capable of playing LF when Bradley is inevitably unavailable.

by morrow on Feb 1, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But Bradley, unlike a lot of guys on this roster, can hit.

Playing him in the field every day until he gets hurt is a pretty big threat to the offense.

by Teej on Feb 1, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Except last year

When he had nearly as many, but then was suspended for being a jerk. And there’s no DH in the NL.

by morrow on Feb 1, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So you'd rather have Griffey/Garko at DH

and Bradley in left?That would probably cost us 2-3 wins

by Poochie on Feb 1, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Because Garko is a better hit than Byrnes

And Bradley probably wants to play the field. I don’t think giving Bradley that much time to think on the bench is a good idea. His problems are in his head.

by morrow on Feb 1, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bradley OPS as an outfielder

LF: .784
CF: .787
RF: .829

As a DH: .990

by Graham on Feb 1, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As the freaking DH

OK, you are a human (I assume).

What causes more stress on your body? Running around and then stretching and then running around more or just stretching?

by seattlebruin on Feb 1, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you for agreeing with what we've all been saying for the past twenty minutes

now we’re halfway to the promised land of “how to logically use Milton Bradley in 2010”

by seattlebruin on Feb 1, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well no shit

But if I think my house is going to burn down either way I don’t pour petrol all over the damn thing just because it’d be fun to see the pretty flames.

by Graham on Feb 1, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions   4 recs

Its pretty tough

Its even pretty hard to tell if players hit worse as DH on average. There is so much context and bias that can obscure the data.

by Edgar for Pres on Feb 1, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing you could start to get an idea around 1000 PAs at both a position and DH

and adjust both for BABIP, league, and park. If Bradley had another year at mostly DH maybe we could get an idea.

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by lailaihei on Feb 1, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it would be tough

Doing it for one person is tricky and the error bars on what you got out of it would probably be bigger than the differences you’d find.

by Edgar for Pres on Feb 1, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

May as well just put them out there in a lawn chair or a Rascal and see what happens if it comes to it.

Couldn’t be any worse, right?

I don't care how well he does for the M's...FUCK ENDY CHAVEZ

by Fuzz on Feb 1, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea

I’d assume so, but. ?

by Jeff Sullivan on Feb 1, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's why Garko splits time at DH and 1B vs LHP, platooning with Bradley and Kotchman

Probably Byrnes in LF spelled occasionally by Bradley. Langerhans goes away.

Griffey seems like the one to lose AB’s here.

by OlSalty on Feb 1, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Griffey loses the ABs

But, Bradley is the regular LF. Kotchman now has some competition/insurance. If Griffey doesn’t perform, Garko sees more time against RHs.

by morrow on Feb 1, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Words like "regular LF" are kind of useless in our current scenario.

Bradley WILL NOT play LF on an everyday basis, and its clear the lineups are going to be all sorts of mixed up.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Feb 1, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

To expand on OlSalty's point

Bradley is likely to get hurt whether he is the full time DH or full time LF. However, if he DHs more than plays the field, he is less likely to be hurt for a significant amount of time, thus putting his potent bat into our not-so-potent offense.

by seattlebruin on Feb 1, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahaha

~Every day? Riiiiight.

by OlSalty on Feb 1, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like this move

but I don’t hate it either. To me (unless he is doubling as the backup catcher) Garko is the kind of player we can afford to carry if run 9 man pitching staff.

by Poochie on Feb 1, 2010 10:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

well....

@StoneLarry Garko won Johnny Bench award as nation’s best collegiate catcher for Stanford in 2003, so could be M’s emergency catcher.

by msb on Feb 1, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bizarre.

More moves to come? The roster as is just seems weird.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Feb 1, 2010 10:06 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

another roster move

I’m somewhat interested to see who gets moved to make room on the 40 man.

I sort of get the feeling that they completely expect one of the LF/DH/1B types to go on the DL during spring training. If not, Wak will get to decide who gets shipped out.

by Paul AB on Feb 1, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What would his batting line be with a normal BABIP?

Would it be around .350 OBP and .450 SLG? And isn’t his UZR sort of decent?

by Baconburger on Feb 1, 2010 10:10 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Something like that

but as Dave pointed out on Fangraphs, Byrnes has a special, repeatable ability to hit pop-ups, so we can’t expect his BABIP to be normal, either. Something like .270-.280 would be very reasonable for him BABIP-wise

by seattlebruin on Feb 1, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Its cool to try to get value from platooning cheap players

but its gonna be tough to platoon LF, 1B and kinda DH. Figgins helps them do this. It wouldn’t surprise me if we see Bradley playing DH and shifted to LF during a game if an injury occurs. Its gonna be interesting to see what the plan is.

by Edgar for Pres on Feb 1, 2010 10:27 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Can't flip DH to a position player

without losing the DH slot, I believe. You can PH for the DH no problem, but if you move the DH to a position player spot, the DH slot becomes the P slot. Does someone have a reference on this, this is just my memory. . .

by el generico on Feb 1, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure he knew this

If an injury occurs, managers would have to do what they have to do to cover the rest of the game. If that means pulling your DH, that’s what you do.

by nathaniel dawson on Feb 1, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Losing the DH in one game isn't a big loss.

The drop off between Bradley and your pitcher (or a pinch hitter you use for your hitter) is insignificant if it only happens once in a season.

by Edgar for Pres on Feb 1, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, if it is later in the game

I completely agree with you here. Re-reading your original comment, it seems clear that this is what you were speaking of, sorry for not quite getting it.

by el generico on Feb 1, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No worries

Its not like I was completely clear. I think people are way to worried about trying to do something like this.

by Edgar for Pres on Feb 1, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely

I think that they freak out about not having a DH in the 8th inning, and it seems like less of a big deal to PH maybe once for the pitcher. I would like to see this more in AL games.

by el generico on Feb 1, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not like they never play interleague games

Heck, the Rays went a whole game without a DH in an AL game because Madden screwed up the lineup card. The Rays won. SP Sonnanstine even had an RBI.

by wandergeist on Feb 1, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Or Garko, Hannahan, Catcher and Langerhans

Or Garko, Hannahan, Catcher and Byrnes
Or Garko, Wilson, Catcher and Langerhans
Or Garko, Wilson, Catcher and Byrnes
Or some players and some other players

by nathaniel dawson on Feb 1, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What about Byrnes and Patterson?

It seems like everybody has forgot about Corey Patterson. With this type of roster configuration (11 man pitching staff) he might be an ideal 5th bench player with his great speed, ability to steal bases and good outfield defense. It might be a long shot for him to make the roster, but I don’t think it would be a bad idea.

by rrenner07 on Feb 1, 2010 10:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Eh, he's a little too much of a situational guy, but he might be able to help the team.

Seems like he’s destined to be the odd one out because he’s just not going to hit

by seattlebruin on Feb 1, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Patterson's not going to make the team unless something weird happens.

His batting/speed skillset is kinda nifty but we just don’t need more outfielders.

by Graham on Feb 1, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody forgot about Patterson

I remember how much he sucks. If he makes the team something has gone seriously wrong.

by Edgar for Pres on Feb 1, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Langerhans vs. Patterson

I think these two players are actually pretty similar. Neither one are much offensively although I would give the edge to Langerhans since he at least puts up quality at-bats. Patterson doesn’t take walks, doesn’t work the count and generally just swings and misses a lot. However, he is a much greater threat than Langerhans on the bases and both play good D. Therefore, I think it’s a tough call between the two because of the speed factor. How nice would it be to pinch run for Griffey, Bradley, Kotchman et.al late in the game with a guy like Patterson?

by rrenner07 on Feb 1, 2010 10:48 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think Langerhans is already being edged out by the rest of the moves the M's are making

There’s barely a place for him as is, so I don’t see much room for Patterson. Also! Please use the reply button. Makes conversations much smoother.

by Graham on Feb 1, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It was just a thought

I’m not saying that Patterson will or should make the team. I agree with you that there’s probably not enough room for him. It was just an interesting idea since nobody has really mentioned him and if we go with an 11 man pitching staff we might be able to afford a situational player/pinch runner on the roster. Also, thanks for the tip. I’m still new.

by rrenner07 on Feb 1, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So if we go with an 11-man staff

Who is our lefty specialist out of the bullpen?

by mebpenguin on Feb 1, 2010 11:04 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Chances are pretty good that the Ms sign another pitcher

in that case you would have your pick of Olsen, Vargas, Feierabend or French. None of them are specialists exactly, and each of them is more likely to be used in the mop-up/spot start role.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 1, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

But they might like to see him get more innings to keep him progressing. And he hasn’t pitched at AAA yet, so we probably won’t see him break with the team.

by nathaniel dawson on Feb 1, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I get where Z is going with this, it’s either

(A) Intended to give opposing managers nightmares caused by potential counter-rosterbation possibilities, or (2) He’s betting Bradley will start hot and he can put him on waivers and somebody will pick up him and his bloated contract and zero out what we had owed to Silva. Garko will replace him as Junior’s DH partner. It’s brilliant!

by maqman on Feb 1, 2010 11:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

What good does it do to clear salary mid-season if you have no one to give it to?

If the goal is to contend and Bradley starts hot it may make more sense to keep paying him.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 1, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He'd be clearing it for 2011, presumably

Not that I believe this, just trying to find the best possible interpretation of the idea.

by wandergeist on Feb 1, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It would'nt matter if he sucked.

At least we’re not paying for Carlos Silva’s eating disorder anymore. The sad thing is Bradley could probably pitch better than him as well.

by Andrew E on Feb 1, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wak's gonna platoon like a sunuvabitch, isn't he

I’ll have to get used to hearing things like “Byrnes into LF for Garko, who subs at first for Kotchman, who moves into the DH spot for Bradley, who will be sitting on Griffey’s lap for the rest of the game, replacing Hannahan who will now be playing short for Wilson (out with a strained ring finger).”

by RunningFool on Feb 1, 2010 12:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It'll be interesting to see what happens

Wak showed an aversion to playing the matchup game last season.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Feb 1, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he told Z he didn't have enough options last season to make it worth it

And Z said “Options? He wants options? I’ll give him mutherfucking options!”

by wandergeist on Feb 1, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing

Wak definitely likes to mix up his lineup, but the way the M’s were constructed last year, he couldn’t do much platooning. It’ll be interesting to see if he takes that approach more with this roster.

by nathaniel dawson on Feb 1, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

HELL YEAH

MOTHERFUCKIN RYAN GARKO N SHIT

by Fogel on Feb 1, 2010 12:20 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Has potential.

But still no, sorry.

by melenious on Feb 1, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

is his name close enough to darko that darko jokes are in order?

i.e. they could have a group called garko’s bunnies and they could dress up like the darko bunny. then one game when bradley is playing lf he will see the group, think he’s going crazy, and spend the rest of the game looking over his shoulder cautiously.

the few, the proud, the blazers

by HD on Feb 1, 2010 12:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I vote no.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Feb 1, 2010 2:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Thirded

Because if there’s one thing that’s out of place on an internet blog devoted to statistical analysis of a baseball team, it’s obscure geeky in-jokes.

by wandergeist on Feb 1, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe this is all solved by injury problems

We’re acting like the serious injury concerns on this team make this a bigger issue. What if that is the key to making it work?

You play the first month of the season with an 11 man pitching staff. You do this on the assumption that people are going to get injured. Eventually people get hurt and you can put them on some kind of DL. This would allow you to be flexible in response to injuries during the season, and potentially add the 12th pitcher into the middle of the season, when he would presumably be more needed.

I will add a serious disclaimer to this concept: I have no idea how MLB DL rules work. None. So maybe this is stupid.

by Snuffleupagus on Feb 1, 2010 2:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Conversely you have a 12 man pitching staff

and play without a 4th outfielder against LHP until someone goes on the DL. When that happens you can respond depending on who that player is.

by Snuffleupagus on Feb 1, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

MLB schedules

Generally have more off days in the first month of the season, so others have noted that if you’re going to try an 11 man pitching staff it’s easiest to pull off in April.

by wandergeist on Feb 1, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes, though.....

Teams keep an extra bullpen arm early on because some of their starters haven’t been stretched out.

by nathaniel dawson on Feb 1, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gaby Hernandez DFA'd to make room

Baker

So now the space on the 40-man gets a little harder to come by.

also, addition by subtraction, yay.

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by JY on Feb 1, 2010 2:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

That was my first guess

But then I wondered if he’d been DFA’d already to make room for an earlier move.

by wandergeist on Feb 1, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We could DFA him a few times just to make sure we did the job right.

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by JY on Feb 1, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he's my least favorite farmhand ever.

But I’m not overly fond of the guy, as he falls under a certain type that particularly frustrates me.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Feb 1, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I really did mean that tongue-in-cheek

It made me think of the last time I was fired (or was it the time before that?) — they had three people in the meeting with me. I think all of them wanted to get in on the fun.

by nathaniel dawson on Feb 1, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Does an 11 man pitching staff work better if there isn't a designated 5th starter?

There’s a couple guys in the projected bullpen that could be slotted as the 5th starter, if it’s flexible would that help, hinder, or do nothing either way?

by Kermit. on Feb 1, 2010 2:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I would love to see the team go with 4 set starters who pitch every 5th day and then

have a couple of guys who are long relief/spot starters that fill in whenever we have a string of days with no day off.

by Sec 108 on Feb 1, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too! I started thinking about that back in '00 or something, when Franklin and Bread and Water were having a great year.

Didn’t really seem to try and capitalize on that stroke of luck, especially in the playoffs. Maybe it was ’99, not ’00.

by Kermit. on Feb 1, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure there is a downside somewhere.

Like if you misuse Fister there could be blood on your hand.

by Sec 108 on Feb 1, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Until you have a couple of your starters blow up

and go short innings back to back, using up your swingmen. Then the 5th starter spot comes up and… crap.

by wandergeist on Feb 1, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Do any of our bullpen pitchers have experience paying defense?

That would be kind of cool I think. Mop up guy + defensive sub + pinch runner. That would be a kind of cool player.

by Edgar for Pres on Feb 1, 2010 3:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Don't you fucking say that.
pitcher Jarrod Washburn was called on to pinch-run

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/mariners/2008080750_mari30.html

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by Faux on Feb 1, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

11 pitchers

Quick check of the schedule – looks like a 5th starter will be needed 3 turns in a row to start the year. I doubt they can get by with only 11 all that time. Maybe Griff can conveniently be on the DL to start the year on the road. Then adjust later in the month. That or learn how to catch.

by crushingyourhead on Feb 1, 2010 7:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm willing to bet

The last time Griffey squatted it put him on the DL.

by wandergeist on Feb 1, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I could live with that

plan a squat that has him coming off the DL on the 10th or 15th, and then send down a pitcher with, hopefully, an option.

by crushingyourhead on Feb 1, 2010 8:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I say that we start a pool on daily lineups

Have like a $1 buy-in for each day and the person who is right or closest wins. We all know that the lineup will now be changing on a daily basis

I don't care how well he does for the M's...FUCK ENDY CHAVEZ

by Fuzz on Feb 1, 2010 8:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Assign your own value (1-9) for confidence of each spot.

So a ballot might look like this:
Ichiro (9)
Figgins (8)
Guti (4)
Bradley (5)
Griffey (2)
Byrnes (1)
Kotchman (3)
Wilson (6)
Bard (7)
You get the points for each correct spot predicted. So if on that day the lineup ended up being:
Ichiro
Figgins
Bradley
Griffey
Byrnes
Kotchman
Bard
Wilson
Guti
that ballot would get 9+8+6=23 points. A perfect ballot is worth 45 points.

by RunningFool on Feb 2, 2010 8:01 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My ballot:

Figgins-5
Ichiro-6
Bradley-8
Kotchman-3
Guti-4
Griffey-1
Lopez-2
Moore-7
Wilson-9

by morrow on Feb 2, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mine:

Ichiro – 6
Figgins – 5
Gutierrez – 8
Griffey – 7
Bradley – 4
Kotchman – 1
Lopez – 9
Johnson – 2
Ja. Wilson – 3

I haven’t looked up the handedness of the A’s #1 pitcher though.

by RunningFool on Feb 2, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Give me

Ichiro – 9
Figgins – 8
Bradley – 7
Griffey – 4
Lopez – 5
Kotchman – 2
Gutierrez – 1
Johnson – 3
Ja. Wilson – 6

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