Jack Cust, Mariners Unofficially Reach Contract Agreement
Back in high school, I used to get along really well with my AP Euro teacher. He was a big Orioles fan, and for every test he'd write an extra credit question on the board, and for every extra credit question the answer was 'Brooks Robinson'.
One morning in 2003, I walked into his classroom holding the latest volume of Baseball Prospectus. The Orioles had just picked up Jack Cust for Chris Richard in a trade with the Rockies, and I was excited to show my teacher just what they had gotten. Look at the OBPs over .400! Look at the slugging percentages over .500! Cust was ready to mash, and the Orioles, I told him, had just added a lineup cornerstone.
That was young me, and that was a lot of other people as well. Baseball Prospectus helped bring Cust's impressive minor league hitting numbers to light, and I was all about getting him a shot in the bigs. I wanted him on the Mariners, but failing that, I just wanted him in the Majors. I wanted him to get a chance.
That morning that I held the book in that classroom was seven years ago, and I'd already been on the Cust train for a good long time. Ultimately, he wouldn't get his big break until 2007 with the A's, but by that point I didn't really care anymore. I'd turned my attention elsewhere. Additionally, I'd learned about the importance of things like defense and baserunning, and I'd learned more about guys who mash in AAA. Guys who mash in AAA don't always mash in the Majors.
Cust, though, was indeed able to hit a little bit, and over his four years with the A's, he put up an .839 OPS with 97 home runs. Now, at the age of 31, he's coming to Seattle to fulfill a dream I had in tenth grade. Like a lot of dreams I had in tenth grade, fulfilling this one isn't quite as exciting as I thought it would be.
Cust's coming on a one-year contract with a base salary of about $2.5 million. There will probably be some playing time incentives, as it's otherwise doubtful Cust would've agreed to sign at a pay cut from what he's made in each of the last two seasons. But even with those presumed incentives, he's not going to break the bank. He's signing as a budget DH.
The Mariners aren't confirming the move, but given that they have 39 players on their 40-man roster and the second pick in tomorrow's Rule 5 Draft, that's to be expected. They'll handle the draft first, sort out the roster, and then announce Cust on Friday or Monday or something. He's pretty much a lock.
So, the first order of business is: where's Cust going to play? And I'll tell you where he's not going to play - in the field. Cust was a DH ten years ago and he's even more of a DH today, as I think many of us figured out when we saw him chase after a few fly balls with Oakland. He is not to play defense except on an emergency basis, and the Mariners know that as well as anyone.
Fortunately, as a lefty DH, he still fits a need. While the Mariners have Milton Bradley hanging around, it's important to recognize that Bradley last year was both lousy and injured, and you can't count on him to bounce back. Bradley has now been forced into something of a reserve role. The M's will still look for a righty fourth outfielder, so the way I figure, the most playing time Bradley can hope to get is as a platoon partner with Cust. And that role is limited. Bradley could fill it, but it also wouldn't surprise me if the Mariners dropped him within a few days, deciding that it wasn't worth the volatility. He's a sunk cost.
The second order of business is: how good is Cust? And this answer has changed a bit over the years. Cust was a very solid hitter with Oakland in his first two seasons, and less solid in the last two, having batted .253/.372/.426. The OBP is quite obviously very good, but the power has dropped. 19% of his balls hit in the air went for home runs between 2007-2008. Between 2009-2010, that rate dropped to 11%.
It's important to note that we can't speak to a decrease in Cust's physical strength or bat speed. We can only speak to a decrease in his home run output. He may very well be just as strong as he was a few years ago, meaning the decrease could be tied to a change in approach. Dave Allen looked at this a while back, and Cust has been swinging a little more than he used to.
But, we don't know. We don't know what the root cause is for Cust's power drop. All we know is that the power drop exists, and that we can't just expect him to slug 30 home runs in 2011. We're looking for a slugging percentage closer to .400 than .500.
But that can still be useful - not only because this team lacked home run power last season, but also because Cust's slugging percentage, whatever it may be, will come paired with a lot of walks and a strong OBP. Cust may not bash the ball around the ballpark, but he also won't make a ton of outs, giving the other guys in the lineup plenty of chances to strand a guy on first. And his numbers could be even better if he does indeed end up in something of a platoon.
Cust isn't a sexy addition, and he isn't the stathead favorite that he was at the start of the last decade. He doesn't seem to have the most congenial personality, either (although I could be wrong), so we aren't about to get swamped by a bunch of Cust jerseys and commercials. What he is is a guy who can plod his way to first base and sometimes plod his way around all four. No, he isn't likely to win the Mariners the World Series. But right now I'm more concerned with winning 70 games. To that end, Cust's okay.
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Sexson, Branyan, Cust, whatever
Just give me big dudes who hit massive dingers
by ManifestDestiny on Dec 8, 2010 11:21 AM PST reply actions
Yeah, I wouldn't expect Cust to mash like Branyan mashed
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
We'll always have New York....
"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "
by the other side on Dec 8, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Definitely agree with the last 4 sentences.
I’ll take the improvements where we can get them, especially for $2.5 million
I'm sure he'll cost well more when all's said and done
Unless he plays less than Bradley last year.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 8, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
2.5 mill is indeed a nice low price.
But the money better be wisely spent elsewhere.
No more Jack Wilsons please.
Out of curiousity,
What’s the main advantage to Cust over Branyan?
Health? Price?
Both of them, yeah
And Branyan may still want to play the field, too. Cust was available now, while Branyan may not have been available – on the Mariners’ terms – for a while.
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
They can always trade for him later, yeah!
I've made a huge mistake.
by box13_seattle on Dec 8, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
At last
we have our own Arod, Pujols, Vlad. Our scoring problem is over
by Jose Lopez's swing on Dec 8, 2010 12:20 PM PST reply actions
What do those players have in common? Latin heritage?
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 8, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
What?
Oh I get it, you are trying to be funny!
by Ballard Erik on Dec 8, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Those 10th grade dreams never pan out, if at all, like you expect
especially with the timetable realistically applicable to these things. The two hottest girls in your grade, who you totally dreamed of having a threesome with, turn into 27 year old club sluts with a lot of paunch, cigarette burns, and bad teeth. Hitting the championship winning dinger doesn’t have the same impact when it’s your men’s 25-and-over softball league and the stands aren’t filled with 40,000 screaming fans but rather 15 of the other players wive’s and girlfriends, who don’t give a shit anyways, and yours isn’t there because you told her not to come because you always get angry and frustrated and you don’t want her to see that anymore.
That’s how Jack Cust’s .235/.350/.396 line is going to feel to me this year. You can see that part of your life coming the moment you take that human resources job in Bellevue, and when it comes you just drink and get mad that you don’t have anyone to get mad at.
by tsunamijesus on Dec 8, 2010 12:33 PM PST reply actions 11 recs
Too much?
I was working on my term paper when I decided to distract myself with LL, looks like some literary pontification leaked between the apps. Signal bleed
Wait.
Someone on this team will have a .746 OPS next season?
Fuck yes!
Were you in 10th grade 2003?
Now, at the age of 31, he’s coming to Seattle to fulfill a dream I had in tenth grade.
And in 11th in 2004? Never thought you were that young when I started reading Leone for Third.
Jeff finished his GED while serving time
He’s on parole for another three years or so.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 8, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
No, but close!
10th grade in 2000-2001.
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Not that close
Three years isn’t all that much but there’s a huge difference between a high-school sophomore and a college freshman.
by vj on Dec 9, 2010 5:03 AM PST up reply actions
You will enjoy Cust not hitting into double plays and taking walks.
And the last remnants memory destroys.
So that the next guy can hit into a double play and not walk
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 8 recs
Batting 6th, Miguel Olivo.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Dec 8, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
that poster, LB, post's from a medium security penitentiary.
alaska A currently residing in northern Idaho.
I sometimes post from a small cubicle in the Greenwood library. What's your point?
by TrustBaseball on Dec 8, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, thanks, you are most likely right
(if it weren’t for your sig I would still be scratching my head wondering what was up).
by TrustBaseball on Dec 8, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
I got your point with some help from harkening. I didn't mean to be offensive.
This is an incredible site.
by TrustBaseball on Dec 8, 2010 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
I think I love you
I have abandonment issues. Thanks Lew.
by OptimistPrime on Dec 8, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
ZOMG STRICKOUTS
Oh, sorry, I forgot this is LL.
Damnation, Cust struck out with the bases loaded and two outs again. That was truly most unfortunate.
Now there's nothing left to say, so let's go drink beer.
The M's will have the bases loaded?
Looks like 2011 is looking up!
by PissedMick on Dec 8, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Don't know about the "only one"...
But I don’t mind Cust over Vlad. Vlad is older, probably more expensive and more injury prone (I think? Feel free to correct me and call me an idiot if I’m wrong).
by Please Don't Ban Me on Dec 8, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
These are the exact reasons we don't really like Vlad
sure, the upside is greater, but marginal wins are worth way less to the Mariners than most other teams, and Vlad would have cost a lot more for marginally better production.
It would probably not been enough money to convince Vlad to play in Seattle.
We could have given the money to him anyway to help him cover expenses with his new team, but I am glad it went to Cust. I am sick of the old and injury prone position players we have been trying to coax a season out of. Cust is cheap, in his early thirties, and has missed only 6 days to injury over the past two years. I like the potential of this move much better than trying to get a more expensive injury free year out of Vlad.
I remember Cust stumbling from 3rd to home one time
Vaguely. And he’s kinda maybe a ginger, and he seems like the kinda guy who would get along with Luke Scott, and I hear he hits homers and strikes out, and for some reason he reminds me of Bucky Jacobson, like lumberjacky or something, or maybe its the possible gingerness, and he seems pretty cheap, so that’s good.
I'm happy with this.
Cust is probably the best of the cheap options that we were realistically going to get..
Why does he seem like kind of a prick?
I don’t remember hearing anything notable about him. Any stories or anything?
Subjective, mainly groundless reasons
I mean, I know that one guy who played with him thought Cust was an asshole ten years ago, but that was ten years ago.
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
I am making this hugging joke so that somebody else does not make a hugging joke
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
That sweater says, "I get right up to the edge of fun but don't fully commit."
by Sec 108 on Dec 8, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The facial expression gives the same vibe too.
by Kirk on Dec 8, 2010 3:48 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Sweeney was better at it than Milton though.
And Milton hugs probably precede something bad happening.
2.5 mill indeed seems like a bargain.
But only if it means that GMZ is saving the money for a bigger splash elsewhere.
It might have been better to get Vlad if the extra money ends up being spent on another Jack Wilson.
What it likely means is that with what litle amount of money Jack has to spend this year and wanting to fill several holes, he's limited to these kinds of deals.
Maybe he finds an opportunity to make a “splash” with some kind of trade, but there’s not going to be one in free agency.
by nathaniel dawson on Dec 8, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
Jack Cust and Jack Wilson have unthinkably little in common
Stop focusing on Vladimir Guerrero. He is a hundred and seven years old.
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 8, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Jeff
Would you like to have a catch? I think you’ll be impressed with my speed
by tsunamijesus on Dec 8, 2010 5:01 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
My girlfriend and I went down to San Francisco a few years ago to watch some Giants games,
And we decided for a night to go to the biggest shithole I’ve ever been to, namely the Oakland Collusiem. It happened to be Jack Cust bobblehead night, and I still have the 2 that we got that night.
Here’s to hoping he “mashes” enough with the M’s to get a bobblehead night here.
I love the Oakland Collusiem.
That shithole is awesome. It is all about the atmosphere.
Haha...
It definately doesn’t lack for atmosphere. A’s fans were booing 2 batters into the game after a walk and a single, and everyone looked (and acted) like they were from a trailer park.
My all time favorite part though, was the in-between-inning entertainment on the ’73 model year jumbo tron. In contrast to our hydroplanes and hat tricks, the Collusium board showed 4 different colored dots (somewhat resembling enlarged blood cells) “racing” around a Nascar-like track. My girlfriend and I were hysterically laughing while all the fans in our section were fixated on the Jumbo Tron. On the last lap, one of the dots climbed up the wall as if to tip over, which enticed a loud gasp out of the crowd. Said dot eventually climbed harmlessly back down the wall and finished in 3rd place, enticing a groan of dissapointment from the crowd this time.
My girlfriend and I sat there in alternating between moments of stunned disbelief mixed with hysterical laughter. The whole rest of the night we would just look at each other, shake our head, and start laughing.
So, yes, the shithole is awesome. Of the week we spent in San Francisco, and 3 hours we spent in Oakland, that Jumbo Tron encounter is the one that I can remember most clearly.

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