12/7: Open Winter Meetings Day 2 Thread
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 7, 2010 8:21 AM PST
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PrintToday's rumor is that the Mariners are focused on improving their starting lineup. Hard-hitting stuff.
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The MST reference
not Miguel Olivo
BAH!!! HUMBUG!!!
by seanchristopher on Dec 7, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
Miguel Olivo is the only catcher in Major League Baseball with more passed balls than Rob Johnson last year.
In fairness, he did play a lot more games, but he still lead MLB in PB. If you combine the plate discipline of Jose Lopez with Rob Johnson’s ability to catch the ball, you could have that to look forward to next year in Miguel Olivo. I’d rather spend the money on food.
He has more power than both though.
I’d still rather have Zaun.
"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."
I still think they should sign Jeff Francis, especially after the silly small offer the Rockies gave him (a minor league contract for a 2 WAR pitcher in 20 GS)?
Neither Bedard nor Pineda can pitch 200 innings next year.
Nationals are apparently poised to offer a big contract to Cliff Lee.
This is still about the 2nd best team he could sign with in terms of my happiness.
Reports (Heyman's source) refuted that pretty quickly. I doubt the Nationals get in on this as other's (Olney) may indicate.
I fucking hate you Mariners
I tend to trust Olney, so I got excited, too. I was actually ready to jump on the Nationals bandwagon....I guess there's still a chance.
I fucking hate you Mariners
I hope so. They've got the money and they've shown the willingness.
Jayson Werth doesn’t make them go from 69 wins to 79 wins. But both of those guys together might. Come on Nats!
by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 7, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
Then we will be the only friend left.
Playing solitaire while the others go off to their World Series.
Sigh, again.
The A's considering Vlad...
Every AL West team but us. We know he excells in our park.
Yeah, but his back is so bad he runs like he gotta dump in his pyants.
Hey, hey Vlad! You got shit in yo pants! Stupid…
by Decatur on Dec 7, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Everyone thought he was done before last year.
Then he goes and wins the 2010 DH award. I don’t care if he can’t run, if he can drive in runs batting #3 or #4 that’s what counts.
by ambrosia2112 on Dec 7, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
C'mon now. I'd bet that 90% of the HR's Vlad hit out would make it out of ANY stadium.
I think if he’s open to playing in Seattle Jack should make a play for him.
Check it out
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/5737/splits Only 3 more home runs hit at home rather than away.
14/29 last year would have been out in any stadium.
Interestingly, 1 of his homeruns would have been a homerun in 0 stadiums.
http://www.hittrackeronline.com/detail.php?id=2010_3925&type=hitter
How long until Ackley time?
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."
Was it accidentally ruled a home run or something?
Mute the Sounders. Malamute the Huskies.
by thehemogoblin on Dec 8, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions
OK, and instead of an expensive two-year commitment to a right handed batter
why not give a cheap one year commitment to a younger player who fits the park better and has no history of injuries?
by seattlebruin on Dec 7, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Old and brokenish.
Which is lame. I remember back when he was going to sign with the Angels, he actually wanted to sign here (his mom really liked Seattle, and he’s a mama’s boy) but we made no effort because we were too scared to ask Ichiro to move. Which we later did anyway.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Dec 7, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
Well...
- small sample size in Safeco
- our park kills right handed batters
- Vlad is aging and could collapse
- Vlad has battled injuries in the past and offers zero defensive value
- Vlad is likely to be expensive or seek a multi-year deal due to his good season in Texas
I just don’t see any reason for us to be interested in him over Matsui or Cust
by seattlebruin on Dec 7, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure that's wrong though I'd have a hell of a time tracking down archived news on it.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Dec 7, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think Vlad has ever expressed interest in playing here
I think we’d remember that
by seattlebruin on Dec 7, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
I think you're right.
I don’t have the time to track anything down, but I remember he wanted to play in Seattle.
No matter where you go, there you are.
It's not that I don't believe you, but I'd love to see the evidence of this
by seattlebruin on Dec 7, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
(sorry if that came off assholish, I legitimately do not remember him ever expressing interest in playing for the Mariners)
by seattlebruin on Dec 7, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
It didn't come off as assholish, no worries.
I wish I could easily post a link, it’s just something I seem to remember pretty clearly.
No matter where you go, there you are.
Watching him run is like watching a double amputee try on his new legs for the first time.
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 7, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The only concern I would have is L/R balance at the top of the lineup, since you're likely looking at
Ichiro, Ackley, Smoak and DH near the top by the end of 2011, but that’s still not even close to worth the additional investment in money and years to Vlad
by seattlebruin on Dec 7, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Mariners in on every non Type A FA!
Kick the shit out’em tires Z!
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Zduriencik is also a member of the Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Dec 7, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Now all we need to do is find Kevin Zaun.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Dec 7, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
Too much.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Dec 7, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
Is his website awesome?
If so, I am interested.
STOP THE MOTHAFUCKIN' PRESSES
# Ryan Divish TNTmariners Jack Z on being close to possible deals: “I’d say it’s possible. There are some nice dialogues going.”
# Ryan Divish TNTmariners Jack Z: “That’s not a promise something is going to happen. But they are at the point where something could happen.”
SHIT IS ON
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
O-LIV-O! O-LIV-O! O-LIV-O!
WORLD MUFUGGIN SERIES!
This is the most Jack Z statement of all time
“we may or may do something. Something might happen that thing might be imminent, but it might not be. We’re talking to others”
I love Jack Z.
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 7, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Unless he fucks shit up...
I fucking hate you Mariners
They turn into superstars when they come back?
Unless they left as superstars (Griffey)
by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 7, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
Not really!
I’d still be fine with taking a shot at him though.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 7, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
I liked his approach while he was in Seattle/Tacoma, and that lefty bat is nice
I think he’s got a lot of life left in him
Determined, Jonesing Commentor
Prospect Insider says the Mariners are close to signing a position player.
It’s PI-exclusive though.
No thats surfing.
"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "
by the other side on Dec 7, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Can they please just make a move
Any sort of a move. I need something to write.
by Ryan Divish on Dec 7, 2010 3:58 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
You can create a short story starring an albino rhinocerous and his peppy robot companion named Squeek .
...and now I'm here
by CapSea on Dec 7, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Or I could do a story on the fact that ...
GEOFF BAKER AND DAVE CAMERON HAVE BEEN SITTING AND WORKING NEXT TO EACH OTHER ALL DAY!!
I thought peace in the Middle East would happen sooner.
by Ryan Divish on Dec 7, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions 10 recs
It's all been an act to drum up publicity
They’re like iCarly and Fred
by Jeff Sullivan on Dec 7, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
What would you do if the Mariners got Michael Young?
I mean you’ve hated him for so long.
Meh
Thats a pretty big contract for a guy who just turned 34.
"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "
by the other side on Dec 7, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Rosenthal reporting that the Rangers might pick up some of the contract.
"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "
by the other side on Dec 7, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
Like Chone Figgins
I would like him if he did well, but my hate would grow if he performed poorly. And something tells me the Arlington—→Safeco transition wouldn’t go too well.
by Fuckmikereilly on Dec 7, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
So the Rangers had two highly touted 1B prospects and will likely have traded them both
According to Ed Price of AOL Fanhouse, the Rangers are working on a deal that would send Chris Davis and Darren O’Day to the Cubs.
Davis has struggled to get comfortable at the big league level, but he could be a solution for the Cubs at first base. It’s not clear who the Rangers would get in return as part of the proposed deal, but it’s possible that they could have interest in either Welington Castillo or Robinson Chirinos, two young catchers who are currently blocked at the big league level by Geovany Soto.
RIP Dave Neihaus.
That just leaves a spot open for their upcoming Pujols trade.
Dawg! He put da team on his back!
by JAH on Dec 7, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
Zach Greinke
If Seattle was seriously in on Adrian Gonzalez so that we could flip him at the All Star break, then theoretically we will be going hard after Greinke as well right?
Your screenname is going to blow my dyslexic fucking mind.
Also, we shouldn’t really go hard on any one year rental since our team will suck next year. Grienke is also probably a harder sell on a long term contract and I have a feeling we were never that hard on him anyway.
...and now I'm here
Not to nitpick, but he'd really be a two year rental.
That said, I’m not sure I see much of a match trade-wise between the Royals and the Mariners, but then again, I don’t “trust the process” either so what do I know.
No matter where you go, there you are.
FUCK THAT SHIT
You stay away from my Cliff, ya fucking dumbass team.
Every time you masturbate... God kills a kitten? Fuck kittens.
by Matt Erickson on Dec 7, 2010 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
What's a 180 from "Meh, he played here for two months?"
How long until Ackley time?
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."
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...and now I'm here
by CapSea on Dec 8, 2010 5:56 AM PST up reply actions 8 recs
Theres talk of Pena to the Cubs.
Heyman reporting right now.
"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "
Yea, that's been confirmed by MLB.com
I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.
by andrewgolfsalot on Dec 7, 2010 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
Taking the Beltre route.
"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "
by the other side on Dec 7, 2010 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
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