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2011 Mariners Payroll Will Now Officially Not Drop

We already posted this item a month ago, but that item was based on information from Source, while this item is based on information from Chuck Armstrong. Probably a bit more reliable.

Mariners president Chuck Armstrong: "Last year, our player payroll budget was $94 million and it won’t be going down from that. "

Further, from Geoff Baker:

Armstrong: He and Zdurienck told owners that payroll had to hold firm or team might be forced into salary dumps and other detrimental moves.

A lot of Mariners fans won't believe it, but this organization is now prepared to take a pretty significant loss in 2011. This same organization that for years was criticized - rightly or wrongly - for just wanting to make money while putting an okay product on the field.

Of course, they'd be taking a pretty significant loss in 2011 because they feel in the long-term it's better than risking huge losses later on. It would still be, in large part, a business decision. But then, baseball's a business at its core, and the fact that the Mariners would be willing to lose money in the short-term next year to avoid forcing the front office into a difficult spot is an indication that they do have a commitment to winning as well. At least as much of a commitment as most any other ownership and management group.

As always, the problem with the Mariners has less to do with the money they have, and more to do with where that money is going.

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It's really fair to say you have to Connect Four players together to build a contender.

And with Milton Bradley’s contract having a Monopoly on the Mariners’ payroll, it’s going to be an Operation to be competitive in the next few years.

Mute the Sounders. Malamute the Huskies.

by thehemogoblin on Dec 6, 2010 11:58 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

Took a sec to break the code...

But yeah, Felix, Ichiro, Smoak and Ackley will eventually be the four, assuming Ichiro is still here and “in his prime” when Smoak and Ackley hit their strides. Nick Franklin may also add into that mix, and if Figgins can get back to his prime, he’s got the talent to be one.

by CamraMaan on Dec 7, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Disappointing, but...

that tends to happens in The Game of Life.

by Cramer05 on Dec 6, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

A concerning bit

Per Geoff Baker, Armstrong/Zduriencik had to convince the rest of ownership not to drop payroll, at least in line with their usual budget-setting practices.

What happens after 2011 when quite a bit of money comes off the books due to expiring contracts? Do we continue dropping payroll (ie. to $80 million) to off-set potential loses expected by holding the line this year? I guess it may not be a big deal if the organization is fully committed to the rebuilding process but it’s something I’m curious about.

by ThundaPC on Dec 6, 2010 12:09 PM PST reply actions  

As long as the team is bad and attendance is down

I would expect some cuts next year. They won’t take a loss forever. But if things turn around they might be able to save off cuts and go the other way.

by spencer peaty on Dec 6, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Wasn't just a year ago that the front office was scolding everyone

for even thinking about how much the organization may or may not have to spend?

by doublemazaa on Dec 6, 2010 1:04 PM PST reply actions  

Don't recall any scolding myself

I do recall they said something to the effect that people outside the organization were simply guessing at how much they had to spend. Typically, they have been very tight-lipped about it. This is a pretty significant about-face for them.

by nathaniel dawson on Dec 6, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

same dis-information, another method

I think they gave up on not giving a number since everyone was going to guess anyways. This year, they give a number…maybe people won’t try to second-guess… but why should anyone necessarily believe it? When you go in to buy a car, they always ask you what your budget is… but it’s not good bargaining to answer it.

by run_dmo on Dec 7, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

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