Super Early Projected 2011 Standings
I've been thinking about projections off and on for a little while. It's always interesting to me when people get excited about having player projections. Player projections don't tell you anything surprising. All of the different systems have their own little tricks, but at their heart, each and every one of them comes down to a simple weighting of recent performance, along with some kind of aging component. That's all. You can usually predict what a projection system will have to say about a player long before its release.
The real fun, for me, is in the team projections. Obviously, you can't have team projections without player projections, but while we can usually do the math in our heads for one player at a time, it's much harder for the human brain to put a team's worth of projections together and come up with a record. That's when the computers really come in handy.
So with that in mind, a few days ago RLYW released some really early projected standings for the 2011 regular season, based on the CAIRO system. I don't think I need to go over all the reasons why you shouldn't take these numbers as gospel, but that doesn't mean they aren't fun to look at, and some inferences can be made. Among them:
- The Mariners really do have a legitimate chance of making the playoffs. They're not favorites by any means, and they're probably the worst team in the AL West, but I think 10% sounds about right. For his career, Chone Figgins has drawn a walk in 10% of his plate appearances. Is it ever a surprise when Chone Figgins draws a walk?
- The Rangers may have lost Cliff Lee, but they still look like the strong favorites, as one must remember that Lee only started 15 games for them a year ago, and had an ERA near 4.
- I think the consensus opinion is that the Angels are one Adrian Beltre away from contending for the division title. What these projections suggest is that the Angels are more like one Adrian Beltre away from being about even with the A's. Both the Angels and A's are fairly good teams, but they're also flawed in ways requiring more than an easy fix.
- Only once in the last seven years has the AL East not won the Wild Card. From the looks of things, the door might be open in 2011, as both the Rays and Yankees have been weakened.
- CAIRO thinks the current Phillies roster will allow approximately two runs a month.
Go give those standings a look, and as you head into the New Year, keep in mind that, as rough as things have been, they could be an awful lot worse.
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I went through those a few days ago.
He’s missing projections for Pineda, Bedard, Cortes and Lueke at least. Which I believe costs us a pretty significant amount in run prevention.
I'll be adding Bedard, Pineda, Cortes and Lueke in the next update
I had them projected but they were filtered out of the last update due to operator error. Lueke was included in the simulations as part of the RH setup guys, but none of the others were.
I held off on including Bedard until I have a better idea of his health status. Is he expected to be at full strength by opening day?
As long as this happens I'll be happy:
by noeffortatall on Dec 31, 2010 12:23 PM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
120 more runs gets us 11 games
The pitching numbers look ok to me. Somewhere around 690 is probably about right. But the projections say Seattle will score 122 more runs next year and that it will translate into an 11 game improvement. Seriously, 122 runs only nets you 11 more wins? it should easily be around 15-17 I would think. That of course is assuming they can even score 635 runs in the first place.
The long standing rule of thumb is that 10 runs equals one win
It varies a bit, but not by much
I'm skeptical as well.
112 runs is a big gain. Regress, you fools!
I would have Rec'ed it if d0nkey had said it.
Chickity-check yourself before you Rec yourself.
by thehemogoblin on Dec 31, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
(dog joke)
Chickity-check yourself before you Rec yourself.
by thehemogoblin on Dec 31, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
That doesn't work.
You’re not even trying and yet you still fail
by Matthew on Dec 31, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You're so cute when you try and actively break people down.
Chickity-check yourself before you Rec yourself.
by thehemogoblin on Dec 31, 2010 6:31 PM PST up reply actions
I am not trying to break people down.
Merely nudge people when they are running afoul of the established standards.
This same system projected the Mariners to score 700 runs last year
So, the Astros are set to score about 400?
Rooting for lovable losers since 1984.
Shame on you Jeff
For not recognizing that 10.9% is 11% not 10% when you round it off.
Maybe Jeff is a computer and rounds all numbers like ints.
How long until Ackley time?
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."
I'd honestly be more surprised
By the Wild Card not coming out of the AL East then the M’s making the playoffs.
The Astros' chances of making the playoffs is only about half the chance of Jose Lopez walking
Are you surprised when Jose Lopez takes a walk?
Stats are not a euphemism for tits
The Mariners are projected make the second-best improvement from 2010 to 2011 in all of baseball! /anchoring.
We’d also be making the biggest decline from 2001 to 2011.

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