FanGraphs' easy way to make an All-Decade team
The new team multiple seasons charts on FanGraphs makes it simple to figure out who the best/most important players for the Mariners have been since 2001. Behold, easy and not especially deep analysis.
Here are the links for position players and for pitchers for the Mariners from 2001-2010. Based solely of fWAR from the past 10 years, here are the players the Mariners would field if they wanted a team that contributed the most during the soon-to-be-over decade:
In the field
1B John Olerud
2B Bret Boone
LF Raul Ibanez
CF Mike Cameron
RF Ichiro!
DH: Edgar Martinez
Bench player possibilities: Franklin Gutierrez, Randy Winn, Richie Sexson, Jose Lopez, Mark McLemore, Dan Wilson
Wow, that list seems obvious. Extremely obvious. There's only one fabricated position battle, which would be whether you'd give Gutierrez the nod over Raul in LF. Otherwise, there's a sizable drop off from the top at one position to the next. The Mariners clearly haven't been able to swap out one quality position player with another.
To further poke at the Gutierrez/Raul debate, I also tried subtracting the replacement runs from runs above replacement. That should get rid of some of benefits of added playing time, I think. (I could divide by games or innings played, but that isn't on the FanGraphs page, and this whole thing isn't intended to be too substantive.)
If you do that, Franklin looks better than Raul (41.8 RAR-Replacement runs vs. 18.6). If you do that for the whole team, David Bell, Stan Javier, Russell Branyan, and Desi Relaford look like good bench players. Does anyone remember David Bell for anything besides almost starting the All-Star Game in 2001?
Toeing the rubber
Starters:
Relievers:
Gil Meche (I cheated here, sorry)
Kazuhiro Sasaki
(I don't like huge bullpens for "best of" lists, so I'm stopping here)
Honorable mentions: Cliff Lee, Doug Fister, Aaron Sele, Jason Vargas, Erik Bedard, Jeff Nelson (who you could sub for Meche, I guess, if it mattered)
This list, especially the starters, screams of piling up wins through extended playing time. I used to love Joel Pineiro (I remember him pitching remarkably well in his first game in 2000, when he was called up to start in a double header), but no one looks back at him fondly as one of the five best pitchers on the squad. The starters are three mostly-lovable pitchers and then "bleh"
My solution: divide runs above replacement by innings pitched. That should give you the best pitchers the Mariners sent out to the mound. It also produced chuckle-worthy results.
Top 12 RAR/IP pitchers
Arthur Rhodes
Cliff Lee
Kazuhiro Sasaki
Felix Hernandez
Norm Charlton*
Rafael Soriano
Erik Bedard
*small sample size (less than 50 innings)
**RIDICULOUSLY small sample size (less than 6 innings)
Jamie Burke: better than any Mariners closer of the past decade. Somehow Burke got +.3 RAR for giving up a run to lose a game in 2008. Well, reviewing the Mariners teams of the past decade isn't complete without mentioning Burke, Madritsch, or Jon Huber. Also, it isn't necessary.
Next in line to replace Burke and Cortes would be Freddy Garcia and David Aardsma.
The other main use of the FanGraphs team links would be to look at players who contributed a negative WAR during their run the past decade. Garrett Olson and Matt Tuiasosopo tie for being the crummiest Mariners to somehow get playing time in the past decade. Other amusing sub-luminaries/sub-Mariners include Shin Soo-Choo, Carl Everett, Miguel Olivo, and Ken Griffey, Jr. for position players, and Matt Thornton, Brian Fuentes, and Jose Paniagua for pitchers.
Not on the negative WAR list: Yuniesky Betancourt. Thanks, replacement value!
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And left-handed.
And had a shoulder that was basically stapled together.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Dec 14, 2010 6:57 AM PST up reply actions
I think his glare at the batter could have been worth 1 WAR over a full season
Who needs a shoulder? Oh right…
He pitched a little out of the bullpen, I think.
You could just substitute reliever for pitcher, though.
This is great!
Now I can finally see just how cover-your-eyes awful the Mariners DH situation has been since Edgar retired.
Edgar (2001 – 2004): 11.7 WAR
All DH Combined (2005 – 2010): 0.30 WAR
Mariners baseball!
by schismatix on Dec 13, 2010 12:38 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
There's a reason why they give out the Edgar Martinez Award every year.
Though David Ortiz has now won five, as many as Edgar did.
Another comparison:
A-Rod: 36.8 WAR
All other shortstops (1977-2010): 24.2 WAR, or 0.83 WAR per season, excluding A-Rod’s five full-time seasons.
Also, Dave Valle had more WAR than Kenji, which surprises me.
Yikes...I didn't realize how futile shortstop had been.
The Valle thing isn’t quite as startling just because of how many more seasons he played than Kenji.
That's 2/3 the 2001 lineup.
Though I suppose that’s bound to happen when you had one of the best teams in history.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
The Team listings are interesting too, (2000-2010)
The Yankees have had the most hitters hit by pitches (784). The Red Sox have hit the most batters (811). And that was oh so expected… (and the Red Sox had near the least # of wild pitches, so either they were unlucky OR….)
Angels and M’s are 1 and 2 for Singles hit, M’s(Ichiro) first in infield hits (1385) 194 more than the next closest team
M’s #2 in UZR (245.1). Yankees are dead last by a large margin (-441.7)
M’s have the least HR by the DH (258)
Those are some random stats

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