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Mauricio Robles, Reliever?

I glossed right over it in the article, but as reader eknpdx noticed, Jack Zduriencik may have hinted strongly at an upcoming development over at Pravda.com:

... Zduriencik sounds fairly solid on his current bullpen.

"I think we'll give some of our young guys an opportunity to see what they can do," he said. "Last year at the end, we had [Dan] Cortes who did some impressive things. We like Anthony Varvaro and Josh Lueke and we'll see what [Mauricio] Robles does.

Dan Cortes is a reliever. Anthony Varvaro is a reliever. Josh Lueke is a reliever. Mauricio Robles started 27 games last season, but the context in which he's mentioned is interesting, and Z seems to be implying that he sees Robles as a reliever, and that he sees him as a reliever right now.

Now, this is speculation on my part. And even if Robles were to, say, break into the bigs as a reliever, that wouldn't prevent him from starting again down the road. But I feel like the message here is pretty clear, and it wouldn't come as much of a surprise, given how many people have been pegging Robles as a future bullpen arm since he arrived. His command just isn't very good, his repertoire is limited, and he's accordingly had problems working deep into games.

What's somewhat troubling is that Robles averages well over a strikeout an inning, and only turns 22 next March. A lot of people would like to see him keep trying to work things out in the rotation, since a good starter is more valuable than a good reliever. As we learned with Phillippe Aumont, though, when this front office is convinced, it's convinced, no matter the guy's age. If the Mariners truly see Robles as a short-inning power arm, then they'll act on that belief.

The good news is that, as a reliever, Robles could arrive quickly, and he'd offer a power lefty arm to a team that's currently looking at Ryan Rowland-Smith, Garrett Olson, Luke French, and Cesar Jimenez as its best southpaw options. One could expect Robles' fastball to regularly reach the mid- to high-90s, and the inconsistency of his secondary stuff could be mitigated in short appearances. Robles has the potential to be dominant, and he has the potential to be dominant soon.

So that's something to watch. It's only November and there's a lot of time between now and baseball, but for as bad as the Mariner bullpen was in 2010, it could be laden with ability and potential in 2011, with power arms like Brandon League, Cortes, Lueke, and Robles possibly hanging around, not to mention David Aardsma in the unlikely event that he doesn't get traded. There would be walks - so, so many walks - but there would also be fastballs and strikeouts, and the relievers could very well end up being the most entertaining part of the team.

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How does this impact that horrifying (yet oh so captivating) composite portrait in the bullpen?

I'd rather know a little about a lot than a lot about a little

by Sportszilla on Nov 30, 2010 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

What's the latest word on Robles's change-up?

I know that it seems like the writing has been on the wall for a while regarding his move to the bullpen. Yet if Robles’ change-up is decent and he keeps working on it, he might be an excellent bullpen-to-rotation candidate a few years down the road (Of lefties who made a transition from the bullpen to starting after they improved their command, I can think of C.J. Wilson, Jonathan Sanchez, Chris Narveson, Jorge de la Rosa, and Johan Santana, so there’s some precedent).

by Decatur on Nov 30, 2010 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

How much talk of Lueke has there been on Pravda...

That is an interesting tid-bit, as in the letter sent out Jack neglected to list him as one of our top prospects. It sounds as if he’ll be a part of a trade this winter, but this at least shows that the organization (or just Jack) isn’t going to just ignore he exists as they had been doing.

by dkulich on Nov 30, 2010 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

Perpendiculars?

–adjective
1. vertical; straight up and down; upright.
2. Geometry . meeting a given line or surface at right angles.
3. maintaining a standing or upright position; standing up.
4. having a sharp pitch or slope; steep.
5. ( initial capital letter ) noting or pertaining to the last style of English Gothic architecture, prevailing from the late 14th through the early 16th century and characterized by the use of predominantly vertical tracery, an overall linear, shallow effect, and fine intricate stonework.
–noun
6. a perpendicular line or plane.
7. an instrument for indicating the vertical line from any point.
8. an upright position.
9. a sharply pitched or precipitously steep mountain face.
10. moral virtue or uprightness; rectitude.
11. Nautical . either of two lines perpendicular to the keel line, base line, or designed water line of a vessel.

by CMC_Stags on Nov 30, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they always saw him as a reliever.

They were probably just giving starts instead of relief appearances because it gives him more innings to work and develop his stuff. I don’t think he ever fit the mold of a starter, and while it’s disappointing that we may have lost a potential good starter (looking at Robles’ stuff, I don’t see this as likely), we gain a good bullpen arm especially if it’s similar to the transition that Dan Cortes went through.

by seiferguy on Nov 30, 2010 8:42 PM PST reply actions  

Looking forward to a much improved bullpen

With the issues seen from Robles not pitching well past 4 or 5 innings (correct, right? or am I thinking of someone else?), I’m looking forward to this move. Guys like Rafael Soriano, who we were always hoping to be a starter, has panned out quite nicely as a reliever. It would be nice to have a hard throwing, shut down lefty to bring in with tough batters in the 7th and 8th innings.

/optimistic’d

by NYCeahawks on Dec 1, 2010 10:19 AM PST reply actions  

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