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11-29-2010 OT Post Turkey Day Edition

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So the last OT seems to have died out a bit (or everyone is catching up on emails after 4 days off) thus I feel compelled to start a new one!

Star-divide

Topics up for discussion:

 

Black Friday, did you brave it? Did you get anything good? Personally I've found it to be pretty lackluster the last two years, but I did get some good stuff on Steam and Amazon.

 

Leftovers! Do you have them? What will you do with them? I have an entire pumpkin pie in my fridge that was supposed to go to my ex, not sure what I'm gonna do with it.

Holiday Music! Do you like it? Hate it? Is it still too early for it? Same thing with decorations, too soon for lights?

 

This weekend Charlie Weiss's offense finally bested Pete Carroll's defense. Also USC lost to Notre Dame. :(

RIP Irvin Kerschner, director of the best Star Wars :(

And of course, beer is always on topic in the off topic!

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No leftovers as our Thanksgiving plans changed due to snow.

Lights went up yesterday. Hired some help to do the high parts instead of dick shimming across my roof again.

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 29, 2010 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

We belong together. And you know that it's true.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I always wanted to be the tall skinny dude that talks real deep during the interlude.

Baby, you know I love you.
I’m sorry I shat in your purse.
You just get me so worked up, I wanna sleep with your sister and your aunt Clarice that wears the cat sweaters all the time.
When we met at the swap meet last summer, you told me you wanted to be my bitch. And you are a bitch. You’re my bitch, baby. For ever and ever…

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

No leftovers as we went to our neighborhood bar for Thanksgiving this year because we didn't want to cook

but the dinner was great. No shopping, either, because Black Friday is dumb. Holiday music, however, is awesome – I haven’t started listening to any this year but I do love good holiday music.

It’s Christmas time in Hollis Queens!

by pdb on Nov 29, 2010 11:01 AM PST reply actions  

"Mom's cooking chicken and collard greens"

My favorite Christmas song, modern or otherwise.

by G_ on Nov 29, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I love that song so much

Like G_, that is absolutely my favorite Christmas song. The beat is so great

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Finally they will have a BCS Caliber team!

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 29, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

How will powerhouses like UCONN and CINCINNATI feel about this?

Oh wait, you mean the Big East is clearly WORSE than what the Mountain West was?!?! SHOCKING! Maybe we shouldnt have made them a BCS conference.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Who is going to be left in the Mountain West?

Mainly just the teams that are jumping from the WAC? BSU, Nevada, Fresno St, SDSU, Wyoming, New Mexico, Air Force, CSU, and UNLV, right?

by G_ on Nov 29, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I always confused the Mountain West and the WAC and now this.

We obviously need to have a few crappy conferences. And those conferences shouldn’t be so crappy that not one team would be considered “great” but it just seems that Boise State could never catch a break. Although, this year, they shot themselves in the foot.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

According to Wikipedia

AFA
BYU
CSU
UNM
SDSU
UNLV
Wyoming
BSU
Fresneck
Hawaii
Nevada

Still better than the WAC, but not an overly good conference.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 29, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Starting in 2012 apparently

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 29, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah Hawaii

Hawaii is currently in the WAC, but apparently has reached a deal to join the Mountain West, although it is not official. Hawaii was also considering going independent.

by G_ on Nov 29, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Of all the schools

Hawaii going Independent would make the most sense.

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 29, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

for football, yes

for all other sports (and Hawaii really promotes the other sports), it would be a disaster. No school is voluntarily going to pay the expense of sending its volleyball/woman’s basketball/other non-revenue sport to Hawaii.

by G_ on Nov 29, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Try to avoid Black Friday

With the limited availability of the featured items (the fine print will usually say something like the store may only have 20 of a particular heavily discounted item in stock) , the crowds, and the early times, Black Friday only seems to make sense if you want a big ticket item like the 50% off the HDTV that you have been saving for. Waiting for hours to save $5 off a $40 toy that was on sale the previous week is just not worth it. For the big presents that might run out of stock later (e.g., toys, electronics), I usually try to buy them before Thanksgiving. Stores are trying to expand the holiday shopping season earlier by offering good sales and free shipping (online) throughout November, so I try to take advantage of that.

Holiday music is great but wears out its welcome quickly, so I try to avoid it until closer to Christmas, although most of the original Very Special Christmas never gets old.

by G_ on Nov 29, 2010 11:05 AM PST reply actions  

And also the Phil Spector Christmas record

I can listen to either that or the first Very Special Christmas year-round, they’re both stellar.

by pdb on Nov 29, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

the Spector album is up there too

I am also partial to the the Charlie Brown Christmas soundtrack (a highlight growing up was my cousins pulling out their vinyl copy on Christmas Eve) and James Brown Funky Christmas.

by G_ on Nov 29, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

ME!!!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Nov 29, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

The Crapple Cup!

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 29, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

FUCK YES.

Also – GO GAMECOCKS!!! BEAT THE PISS OUT OF AUBURN!!!!

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Unbelievably, yes.

By the time that Holtz came along, he was past his prime. I’ve never necessarily been a Spurrier fan – I hate his whiny grimmacy face when things go wrong, but he can definitely coach a good game.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

THAT'D BE ME!

Dawg! He put da team on his back!

by JAH on Nov 29, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

On that particular Saturday WSU was better than the UW.

There is no way somebody can say over the course of the entire season that UW was worse than WSU. The 2008 Cougars were the worst team that I have ever seen.

by Robert on Nov 29, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Just because they gave up the most points ever in the history of the conference doesn't mean we were bad...

Like I said, blocked out memories other than actually winning the apple cup and pretending like it was the national title game.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Rivalry games transcend suck year after year. Alas...

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Wandering around the airport yesterday, I heard Christmas music

and that did away with the whole “I’m pissed at most things” mood I was in at that moment.

(No Black Friday, no leftovers)

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 29, 2010 11:07 AM PST reply actions  

So who still wants to see this Seahawks team in a playoff game?

I say no because I want them to get a good draft pick. If they make the playoffs they get at best the 21st pick.

by Sec 108 on Nov 29, 2010 11:11 AM PST reply actions  

The defensive line is pretty much nonexistent right now.

Same goes for the offensive line, really. It’s hard to win games when you can’t win the battles in the trenches.

Mute the Sounders. Malamute the Huskies.

by thehemogoblin on Nov 29, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

KC is the best running team in the NFL

But ya without the 3 headed monster of Red, Mebane and Cole. We can’t stop the run for our life.

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 29, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not trying to be argumentative or snotty, but one more bad week and we could still be tied for first.

I’ll take what I can get.

This week we got the Panthers and the Rams are at the Cardinals.

Week 17 is looking more and more like a home playoff game.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Im not saying that the Rams arent better even, but they play a similar schedule.

@ Arizona. (They JUST won their first road game of the year) @ New Orleans, Chiefs, Niners, @ Sea

They split those first four games at best, I think.

Seahawks are CAR, @SF, ATL, @TB, Stl

Its a much tougher four game split.

The odds are probably 60% Stl. But we can do just as good over the next four games if we take advantage of the Carolina game. Then its just one game for all the marbles.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

According to the Pro Football Reference Simple Rating System, the worst team in the NFC is the Panthers with a -13.3

The next 4 worst teams are all in the NFC West.

In the entire NFL, only the Broncos are as bad as the NFC West.

That would be
32. Carolina
31. Arizona
30. San Francisco
29. Seattle
28. Denver
27. St Louis

Yikes.

Of course, I dont know how trustworthy SRS is, but yikes. You’d think in a division so bad, at least 1 team would have a winning record by default.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Week 17 should be huge and I'm excited for an important football game

You aren’t being argumentative with him, but we may not have a choice but to go to the playoffs or at least play week 17 as a win-and-in situation and at that point, WIN

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too, but at least we're at home for this one

As I said, though, we may not have a choice but for that game to decide if we make the playoffs or not and if we are in that position then we’d might as well win. 7-9 and losing the division would have us picking probably like 15th, so I’d much rather have the playoffs instead. Marginal difference between picks at 15th to 25th and if there’s somebody we like that’s higher than that we’ll probably try and make a trade for them anyway

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, this isn't a fight for a really high and valuable pick.

Take the win, make the playoffs and see what happens.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 29, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess my bigger contention is that we'll almost certainly trade up to get a QB or something

Carroll and Schneider have already shown that they have no qualms about trading for value and I don’t see why they wouldn’t make an effort to trade-up if the opportunity exists

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate the idea of picking a QB in the middle of the first round.

Andrew Luck is great. But after that, I just don’t really know what to think. But I do know that Nick Fairley has been the best player I’ve seen play defense in the college games I’ve watched this year. And I know that LaMichael James has been the best offensive player I’ve seen. (I know he’s a sophomore right and not draft eligible, I’m just saying, those are the two best players I’ve seen this year)

I dont want a QB as much as I want players around a QB and a better defense.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't hate the idea, but I'm not a fan

If we trade way up for a QB then I’m ok with that (assuming the trade isn’t batshit crazy). But, at face value, there is no real benefit to losing and picking at about 10th compared to making the playoffs and picking 25th or whatever. Another high draft pick will sour the fans even more, but a playoff game will bring them right back into the fold

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Looking over the standings again,

If only we had beaten STL in our first meeting earlier this year. We’d be a game over .500 and already a virtual lock to make the playoffs thanks to owning the divisional head-to-head tiebreakers and having a better record in all the other tiebreaker categories compared to our divisional rivals. Amazing how much one game can swing things in the NFL

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

That's the best part

If we had beaten them we’d have a commanding hold of the division while not being the best team in said division

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

LaMichael James is actually draft-eligible.

He redshirted in 2008 when the Ducks had Jeremiah Johnson and LeGarrette Blount in the backfield. I doubt he turns pro though, based on his size and his durability concerns.

Mute the Sounders. Malamute the Huskies.

by thehemogoblin on Nov 29, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't say he wouldn't be good. His speed is absolutely killer.

It’s just that I don’t think his draft stock would be as high yet.

(Plus, if he stays in school even for one more year, he will likely own the record books at Oregon so thoroughly that he would surpass Joey Harrington as the program’s all-time golden boy.)

Mute the Sounders. Malamute the Huskies.

by thehemogoblin on Nov 29, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I know what you're saying. I agree, he won't be drafted high, but I think it will be a mistake.

If I was a GM, I’d just be the guy who has him higher on his draft board than everyone else.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

And thanks for the heads up, even if he does go back for his senior year.

Pac-10 took a beating this year, but almost everybody good could be back next year. Lots of freshman-soph-junior talent in the league.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess my bigger contention is that we'll almost certainly trade up to get a QB or something

Carroll and Schneider have already shown that they have no qualms about trading for value and I don’t see why they wouldn’t make an effort to trade-up if the opportunity exists

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't see it as argumentative or snotty.

I am aware my position is an unpopular one. I just worry that making the playoffs may hurt us long term.

by Sec 108 on Nov 29, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

It sure might hurt us, but what other choice is there?

We can’t throw the games and honestly, at this point, the average fan is going to be pissed if we aren’t in a position to win against STL to make the playoffs. Sure there should have been no expectations of playoffs anyway, but as of yesterday morning we were in sole possession of first place which, to an average fan, means that we should continue to contend for the playoffs until the very end.

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

The biggest hurt I would see is winning and signing Hasselbeck again.

I’m worried the fans will be pissed or the players won’t see that he’s done and the front office will be blinded by that, a la Griffey.And having Hasselbeck start another season will be really, really bad for the team long term. I just hope Schneider and Carroll are smart enough to know better.

by Mariner John on Nov 29, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Well yeah, but I mean if we sign him for next year, I'm pretty sure he would start.

Which hurts us that much more because not only is he BAD at this point but it also doesn’t allow us to develop another quarterback who could be good. It’s already happening this year, I don’t want it to keep going on.

by Mariner John on Nov 29, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I;m not saying a big contract.

But either drafting a quarterback or trading for a decent backup (Kolb maybe) or at least going with Whitehurst for the year. We know Hasselbeck is bad. We don’t know what unknown QB will do.

by Mariner John on Nov 29, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

There are a lot of holes.

All I’m saying is don’t waste money on Hasselbeck since, hey, he’s bad!

by Mariner John on Nov 29, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish we were in a better division

so that we could just chop this season up as a loss and develop either Whitehurst, or someone else. Instead, we are an awful team, in an awful division and will probably make the playoffs.

by d0nkey on Nov 30, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

After last nights game, I put our chances of making the playoffs at 25%

We are a bad team and a worse road team. Now we have to go to San Francisco later this year with perhaps only a 1 game lead.

I just don’t like our chances nearly as much. Next week the Niners and Rams play. If the Rams win, we’re still tied for first (if we beat the Panthers) and if the Niners win, they’re still only 1 game back.

Of course, its better of the Niners win and then we beat the Niners it should still come down to week 17 against the Rams. But it seems like its a 3 horse race again and I’d put the Seahawks in 3rd because of how awfully they’ve played the last 5 weeks compared to the other 2 teams.

Frank Gore is out for the season, but running back replacements are much easier to find than us trying to replace Red Bryant and Colin Cole.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 30, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Make the playoffs and see what happens.

You never know what will happen in any given game, especially if we get to play at home somehow,

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 29, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

If we make it, first game at home.

I’m not sure how it works after that though.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 29, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

That makes sense.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 29, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

How fucked would that be for us to win a home game, get an upset on the road in a potentially favorable matchup,

and then get the NFC Championship game at home because one of the wild cards went nuts and won themselves into the NFC Championship?

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

How fucked would that be for us to win a home game, get an upset on the road in a potentially favorable matchup,

and then get the NFC Championship game at home because one of the wild cards went nuts and won themselves into the NFC Championship?

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Through week 7, we gave up 77 rushing yards per game.

In our last 5, we’ve given up 177 rushing yards per game.

If you don’t count Arizona, we’ve given up 204 rushing yards per game in 4 of those 5 games.

Somebody help me out here. What changed?

I know Mebane didnt play against Oakland, but he played against Kansas City, was he not at full strength? Is it just Red Bryant since he hasn’t played since Oakland?

A combination of both?

Its pretty sad.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Good question.

I don’t think Bang-Bang was at full strength yet, and losing Bryant sure hurts, but it’s been a radical change with just those two differences. Of course the Chiefs are awesome at running the ball versus anyone, so it’s hard to judge that game by itself.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 29, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

The other thing to think about are the games themselves.

A team is going to look bad against the run (as far as total yardage goes) when they are way behind and the other team is burning clock.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 29, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm torn.

I’d like the draft pick, but I’d also like the team to perform moderately well enough to retain some of our own free agents.

by BrianL on Nov 29, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

It'll be draft Locker

Sign Mitch Mustain. And allow those 2 to Battle Whitehurst.

Always compete.

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 29, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

There is a special place in hell for Mitch Mustain

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 29, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

No I got that one right

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

If we lose this weekend I might kill myself for real

as this will officially be the worst year of my life.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I would take that over losing to our two biggest rivals every time

if anything it would kind of show how fucked up sanctioning players who weren’t involved in that mess is.

I’d rather go undefeated than lose to my two rivals though, regardless of playing for MNCs or not.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

And it was rumored that when he called Pete back to tell him he wasn’t attending. Pete said “Thats biggest fucking mistake you’ll ever make” – Then handed the phone to Sark.

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 29, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow, interesting. I didn't know much about his recruitment when he was in high school.

Anyways, the list of players I’d rather draft with first round talent over Jake Locker is long. There’s a lot of impact players at positions we really need. I’d love to get Nick Fairley in Seattle.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

This is the first time I've ever heard this story

Would’ve been interesting had he come to USC, since Sanchez came in 2005 and then Aaron Corpse came in 2007. Could Locker have beat out Sanchez?

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 29, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough

I don’t remember Locker’s recruiting that much, but I thought it was consensus he was a Husky from day 1.

Would’ve rather had him than Garett Green that year!

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 29, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

The Rams aren't making the playoffs.

I think that the biggest threat for us is the 49’ers which haahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah

by Robert on Nov 29, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Matt doesn't deserve another playoff game.

He deserves to be a backup to Matt Leinart.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I enjoy Christmas music.

I’ve got a Diana Krall Christmas album that’s getting heavy play right now.

by BrianL on Nov 29, 2010 11:11 AM PST reply actions  

I enjoy the Christmas music

I usually keep my car radio on to Warm 106.9 between now and Christmas.

2010 Safeco Field Record: 2-1 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 12-5

by Fin on Nov 29, 2010 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

Niners-Cardinals tonight??

Did they only do that “moveable” schedule for Sunday nights? I can’t remember. Clearly, MNF needs to change some things up, its week 12. We can do better.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

I know, horrible matchup.

I’ll still watch, but only because it’s our division.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 29, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

In a way, the Niners could still hold their fate in their hands.

4 of their last 6 are on the road and they haven’t won a road game yet. But if they win tonight, 1 back of Seattle and St Louis with a game left against both and they already hold the tie breaker with St Louis.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Watch the Cardinals win the division as possibly the worst team in the NFL right now.

They’ve got one of the softest schedules I’ve seen.

Niners, Rams, Broncos, Panthers, Cowboys, Niners.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

That would really piss me off.

I could handle the Rams getting it if we piss it away, but not the Cards.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 29, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm so going to be watching this tonight.

I hadn’t thought of it that way.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 29, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Our remaining games SHOULD be cake (with exception to the Rams).

But I’m torn. Of course I always want my team to win, but I also want them to get rid of Matt.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't say we've got it easy for the rest of our schedule

Both Atlanta and Tampa Bay will probably stomp our dicks in, meaning that we will need to win the other 3 remaining games to finish 8-8 or preferably at least be in a position to beat STL for 7-9 and the division

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

ATL, yes - but TB hasn't looked all that sharp of late, and actually match up to us well

(when we actually play like a fucking NFL team).

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

That's where I'm at with it

Win at home against Carolina, lose to both Atlanta and Tampa Bay, win at San Francisco, and then you have STL at home for (most likely) all the marbles

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Flex is only for Thursday and Sunday I think.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 29, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

From an entertainment perspective?

I’d say yes. I would have LOVED to have Falcons Packers tonight instead of Cards 49ers.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 29, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh geez, that was a great decade.

Question: Favorite 80s movie?

This must be split up like the Golden Globes, comedy and drama (or other, anything that is not strictly comedy), because 80s is almost defined by comedies for me and was weaker in the drama category. But there were some excellent dramas and I don’t think one should be compelled to not pick a comedy because of the label “Best 80s movie” or “favorite”

Comedy: Back to the Future? Its almost perfect.
Drama: Platoon. It would be Goodfellas but that was 1990.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

God, yeah, it's got to be by genre - there are just too many.

Almost any movie starring John Cusack.
Almost every John Hughes movie.
The Gods Must be Crazy.
Romancing the stone.
Princess Bride.
Neverending story, Gremlins, Ghostbusters, Goonies, Howard the Duck, Godfather, Platoon – oh my god I miss the 80s.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I almost made the same mistake.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck those people.

There’s no 8 in 1990.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but there was no year 0, so the first decade only had 9 years?

 Sorry, playing devil’s advocate, so you can ignore if you want.

"How do you think my anus feels?"-House

by seattle_since_81 on Nov 29, 2010 10:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Years should be 0 indexed.

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
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by joof on Nov 30, 2010 3:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Because dates are based on an estimated date of Christ's birth.

And there is no year zero. There was merely Before Christ and After Christ. There might be a “day zero” (the original Christmas day), but every day thereafter would be the first year after his birth. I know it’s hip to write CE and BCE instead of AD and BC now, but they could have come up with a better date system instead of just slapping a different abbrevation on the back of the same year to cover it.

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by harkening on Dec 1, 2010 3:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Dramas

Do The Right Thing
Hoosiers
Blood Simple
Eight Men Out
Diner
The Untouchables
Drugstore Cowboy
My Left Foot

by pdb on Nov 29, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I have had several people say the same thing

but for some reason I will always put it in my top 80’s dramas list – it just resonated with me the first time I saw it and it hasn’t degraded with multiple repeated viewings.

by pdb on Nov 29, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Comedies

Raising Arizona
Beetlejuice
Spinal Tap
Breakfast Club
Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Ghostbusters
Tootsie
Ferris Bueller’s Day Off
Trading Places
Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure
Monty Python’s The Meaning Of Life

by pdb on Nov 29, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

You remind me of the babe

what babe?
The babe with the power. The power of voodoo. Who do? you do. Do what? Remind me of the babe.

by pdb on Nov 29, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I enjoy making my 6 year old watch '80's movies with me

But mostly because when he sees the special effects he always says “Dad, that looks so fake” while he laughs at it. But then I remember that shit looking REAL when I saw the movie at his age. Technology has certainly come a long, long way

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Its hard to know if a movie is truly great or if its just something you love because of the age you watched it at.

I have a hard time believing any kid wouldn’t love Sandlot or The Goonies but maybe I’m wrong. Why would a kid want to watch The Karate Kid when they could watch The Karate Kid (2010)? Although I’ve heard that upon rewatch, the original is absolutely terrible. I haven’t seen it in years.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

The original Karate Kid is still amazing.

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by joof on Nov 29, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course, I saw it for the first time last year, but it was really good.

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by joof on Nov 29, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

This comment blows my mind.

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by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe it was 2 years ago?

My roommate and I were playing MLB the Show 2008, and it had on it’s sound track Sweep the Leg by No More Kings. He realized while we were playing the song was about the Karate Kid, and I mentioned I hadn’t seen it. He immediately turned off the game and put in the Karate Kid, really upset that I was in my 20s and hadn’t seen it.

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by joof on Nov 29, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

It's fantastic

It’s definitely of its time, but it’s a really good story told really well.

by pdb on Nov 29, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Oooh - speaking of - DUNE.

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by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Mad Max.

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by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I might throw Planes, Traines & Automobiles into this list as well.

It’s sort of a forgotten John Hughes movie, but I think it’s easily as good as his more well known movies, and it has a ton of heart as well.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 29, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I watched that the other day and for me at least it didn't hold up at all

I remember liking it when I first saw it, but last week it just seemed dated, predictable, and “wacky”. Which was too bad.

by pdb on Nov 29, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Also THrow Mamma From the Train.

What about Beverly Hills Cop? Any Richard Pryor flicks? Big?

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by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Throw Momma From The Train is brilliant

Beverly Hills Cop was pretty good, and as far as Richard Pryor movies go, I’ll stick with his comedy records I think. Except for his cameo in the Muppet Movie.

Big is a very sweet and charming movie and I’ve always loved it.

by pdb on Nov 29, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

You couldn't make Big now.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 29, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Shia LaDouche!

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by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Reasons:

1) The movie is about an adult sleeping with either a child or a mentally challenged adult.

2) They would have found the carnival machine in 10 seconds with Google, and the movie would be over.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 29, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Reminds me of

This

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by joof on Nov 29, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

It is worth it.

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by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

It's on Instant Watch

Along with another 1 or 2 Richard Pryor/Gene Wilder movies

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Sheesh

10 top-grossing films of the decade
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982), $435 million
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (1983), $309 million
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (1980), $290 million
Batman (1989), $251 million
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981), $245 million
Ghostbusters (1984), $238 million
Beverly Hills Cop (1984), $234 million
Back to the Future (1985), $210 million
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989), $197 million
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984), $179 million

by msb on Nov 29, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Already mentioned it myself, but yes!

And now my four year-old loves it!

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by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck, I Iooked too.

Sloth gave five year old me nightmares but man that was a great film.

by Eyeball Kid on Nov 29, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

And that reminds me:

Lucas!

No, its nowhere near The Goonies for me, but Lucas is quietly one of the most iconic movies of the decade yet few people seem to know about it. But I swear its rehashed over and over again since it was released.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that the boy in the bubble movie?

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by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh... RIGHT!!!

So then, I guest I should mention Lost Boys. Also, Point Break.

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by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Lost Boys does not hold up AT ALL.

“You’re a goddamn, shit-sucking vampire!”

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 29, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I beg to differ, but I think that's objective.

It’s allure was it’s campiness, right down to the shitty Danzig ripoff band playing People Are Strange.

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by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

After Licking Barry Bonds' future pores.

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by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Because, no - the "lead singer" was NOT in Echo.

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by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think Echo were the ones in the movie

but they’re the ones who recorded it and they appear on the soundtrack. I guess Faux Danzig looked more otherworldly than Ian MacCulloch.

by pdb on Nov 29, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Lost Boys is awesome but I watched some of it last year on TV.

The rock band part is ridiculous how those guys are dressed.

what Phildopip said, it doesn’t hold up.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Until the next time they meet this year!

And until they meet in the Champions League!
And until they play twice next year!

by pdb on Nov 29, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

It is a very awesome game indeed

but I could have done without the incessant buildup by everybody and their dog.

It’s also not a surprising game, at least to me – Barcelona are a much more balanced team than Real. I didn’t think they’d be 5-0 better, but I’m still not all that surprised by the result – I figured it’d either be a rout by one team or the other, or a 0-0.

by pdb on Nov 29, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

All this 80's talk got me thinking...

I almost forgot the commercials that made PDB famous for a while.

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by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 2:47 PM PST reply actions  

Winger.

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by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

White Tiger.

Nelson.

Tesla.

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by kevin_ess on Nov 29, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Quiet Riot is not 80's to me.

Those guys started in 1975 and still play. They made one radio friendly album in the 80’s that everyone remembers them for though.

by Sec 108 on Nov 29, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too

I have absolutely no idea why. One of my favorite songs is Round and Round, by Ratt. This is strange to me for some reason

by tootthekazoo on Nov 30, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Twisted Sister fan eh?

What was their big hit again? Oh yeah! Wasn’t it “We’re Not Gonna Make It”?

by ToddK on Nov 30, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

That was the Presidents of the United States.

“We’re not gonna take it” was Twisted Sister.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

They'll out you "under the blade".

Don’t go down any dark alleys.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

"put", not "out".

Stupid cold fingers.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Lay off Tesla,

they were ten kinds of awesome. Probably still are.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 29, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Dokken

Slaughter

Skid Row

by pdb on Nov 29, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

The list goes on.

Great White, Faith No More, Duran Duran…

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 29, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Check it:

The high temperature in Vancouver, WA on November 3rd was 71 degrees. The high temperature on November 23rd was 31 degrees.

Twenty days. Forty degrees. That’s crazy.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 29, 2010 3:45 PM PST reply actions  

At SeaTac, over the same timeframe,

74 on the 3rd, 25 on the 23rd. Twenty days, 48 degrees. THAT is crazy.

And in some places up here the gap was even bigger. My dad’s weather station in Enumclaw didn’t pass 20 on Tuesday, and I know that on the 3rd his was pushing 80 since the foothills were even warmer on that day

by tootthekazoo on Nov 29, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Horrible, awful, pointless, moneygrubbing, cash-in

Buffy was already a movie, before it was Buffy. Nobody now remembers that Buffy movie because the series was so fucking amazing. What made that series amazing? Joss Whedon and his cast and writers, none of whom are involved now.

Since I know all you big Hollywood producer types and movie stars read LL, I beg you. Please don’t do this.

by pdb on Nov 29, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Interview with the new screenwriter

citing the whole Nolan/Batman re-boot theme.

Interestingly, they people behind it have changed:

UPDATE: From a press release that hit after this post went live: Atlas’ Roven and Steve Alexander will produce the feature film alongside Doug Davison and Roy Lee of Vertigo Entertainment (“The Ring,” “How to Train Your Dragon” and “Departed”). Warner Bros. optioned the rights from Fran and Kaz Kuzui and from Sandollar Productions (Sandy Gallin and Dolly Parton).

by msb on Nov 29, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly I don't see how they couldn't involve Joss.

He’s expressed that he was never satisfied with the original Buffy movie. It was a start in the right direction, but not fully realized.

Let Joss produce a movie, bring Tim and Jane in, and reboot that movie.

by BrianL on Nov 29, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

They don't want to involve him because that ratchets up the price of producing the movie

Honestly, I would just not bother at all – the original movie is fine for what it is, the series is awesome…just let it be.

by pdb on Nov 29, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd prefer they leave it alone as well

but it just feels like a total dick move to reboot this franchise without the involvement of anyone from the series.

by BrianL on Nov 29, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

That's what they do, though

“reboot” means “make something and convince/fool people that it’s good so it becomes a hit without having to pay a fat salary and a piece of the royalties to Established Name Guy who wrote the original”

by pdb on Nov 29, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure what to think of Whedon's film credits.

He discredits Alien Resurrection, Twister (per wiki, he did a re-write that wasn’t really used), discredits his work on Waterworld, and I’m not a fan of Serenity. Plus he wrote the original Buffy.

Though Toy Story…

If you only look at movies he wrote and directed, I wouldn’t say he’s the best ever. But it seems unfair to do anything Buffy without him.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Serenity fell into the trap of trying to do too damned much in a limited timeframe.

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by JY on Nov 29, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Read the interview with him about that....

He came off well, but the point about “why exactly are we rebooting something that’s not that old?” remain valid, even if they were delivered a little tongue-in-cheek.

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by JY on Nov 29, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just talking to my step-dad about this on turkey day.

Do we know what type of surgery? TJ? Bone chips?

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 29, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I just read, it's TJ.

He plans to be back for 2012.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

He really has a chance to do something special.

Paige’s appearance at age 59 was somewhat of a stunt as we all know.

Other than that, Hoyt Wilhelm, Jack Quinn, and Phil Neikro are the only pitchers to play “regularly” at an older age than Moyer.

If Moyer comes back at age 49, he’ll easily be the oldest person to ever pitch on a regular basis. Wilhelm and Niekro only pitched a handful of innings past age 48.

If Moyer could start 20+ games at age 50, that would be awesome.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

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Black Friday, did you brave it? Did you get anything good? Personally I’ve found it to be pretty lackluster the last two years, but I did get some good stuff on Steam and Amazon.

Brave it? Wasn’t that hectic. My friend and I are both night owls, so we decided to go and just see if anything neat was going down. Obviously we avoided Best Buy because we weren’t there to fight for cheap deals. Everything else was not on a special sale at all in the entirety of the mall. I had been to the mall twice in the 2 weeks before Black Friday to look for a few things I needed, and I can tell you 100% that at least 95% of the Black Friday “deals” were simply normal sales with a Black Friday sign. The only interesting one was 50% off everything at the Gap. I don’t shop at the Gap, but that was clearly a Black Friday thing, and the only one that was impressive.

Leftovers! Do you have them? What will you do with them? I have an entire pumpkin pie in my fridge that was supposed to go to my ex, not sure what I’m gonna do with it.

I don’t celebrate Thanksgiving, but I do have my own fun tradition where I make macaroni and cheese and chocolate chip pancakes and yes, I have 2 whole pans of baked M&S and I am warming it right now and it is going to be delicious and yummmmmmm.

Holiday Music! Do you like it? Hate it? Is it still too early for it? Same thing with decorations, too soon for lights?

I hate it, it’s too early. Holy crap it’s everywhere and I want it to be upped by Robert.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 29, 2010 6:06 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I remember old navy having the same kind of sale a couple years ago.

And jeans were 8 bucks a piece. I bought 6 pairs and still wear them to this day.

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 30, 2010 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah Old Navy was the only store I went to this year and last

for some cheap jeans. The ones I got last year are still in great shape but they don’t fit anymore cause I lost weight.

I went to Old Navy at the Tacoma mall around 11am or so and they were super organized and super helpful and I was in and out in about 20 minutes, including time to try on pants.

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by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate to admit it, but I do like their clothes.

I just HATE their TV ads.

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by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

The teenage punk rock version of me is horrified that I shopped there

but these are some comfortable jeans.

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by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Good shirts too.

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by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I've only bought pants there

I bought enough cheap tshirts during threadless sales to last me awhile.

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by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Because I was out of town from Wednesday until Sunday

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by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

This has never made sense to me.

If the speed limit is 60 and you’re going 60 in the left lane, why do you need to move right if there are cars behind you that want to go faster? If they want to go faster than you, they’d be breaking the speed limit, so why can you be ticketed for driving at the speed limit and preventing others from breaking the law?

by urchman on Nov 30, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Because you are disrupting the flow of traffic

Unless you’re going 90 or weaving like crazy, you generally won’t get busted for going 70 in a 55 as long as everyone else is going 70. if everyone else is going 70, and you’re going 60, you’re the one presenting the danger to traffic, even though you’re technically going the speed limit.

by pdb on Nov 30, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

So why even have a posted speed limit if it's just a suggestion?

If someone is considered to be the larger traffic danger if they’re going the posted speed limit when everyone else wants to exceed it, why do they even post a speed limit? If the defacto rule of highway speeds is that everyone should go the same speed regardless of what’s posted, then there shouldn’t really even be speed limits, or the posted limit should be the real limit at which exceeding it is truly dangerous, perhaps something like 90 mph.

by urchman on Nov 30, 2010 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I need Corco support for this

the posted speed limit does indeed vary by area, which is defined by danger level – it’s 50 or 55 in city limits/urbanized areas, 65/70 or even 75 (?) in more rural areas. Regardless of the speed limit, though, it is much more important to ensure that you drive in a manner consistent with the other drivers on the road – if they’re all driving the speed limit, you should be as well. If they’re all driving 10 mph over the speed limit, then you need to either drive at that same rate, or be in the farthest right lane that you possibly can be, because it is accepted practice (if not law – I’m not sure) that passing be done on the left.

If you are in the left lane going 10 mph slower than anyone else on the road, no matter what MPH, you remove the ability of people to pass on the left in the accepted and safe manner, therefore you are a danger to other drivers.

Nobody’s saying you can’t or shouldn’t drive the speed limit. But if you do, please do it in the leftmost lane.

by pdb on Nov 30, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I remember him saying something about this.

It could either work extremely well. Or if our drivers really are to stupid go horribly wrong.

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 30, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

This

The first rule of driving is that if anybody notices you driving, you’re doing it wrong.

Nobody ever notices good drivers, we notice bad drivers, especially on divided highways. The safest way to drive is to blend in as much as possible with your surroundings. Driving in the left lane without passing is noticeable to people, ergo it is a bad behavior.

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by Corco on Nov 30, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions   4 recs

The excessive speeder is doing it wrong too

If they’re going 90 while everyone else is doing 70, they’re noticeable and therefore driving poorly. If you’re in the left lane and you’re passing somebody and 90 MPH guy comes up on you, finish passing, wait for a decent gap, and then get over. As long as you’re moving faster than the traffic to the right, you’re under no obligation to get over to allow that guy to go 90.

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by Corco on Nov 30, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

This
The first rule of driving is that if anybody notices you driving, you’re doing it wrong

That should be in every driver’s ed. handbook.

by d0nkey on Nov 30, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Driving safety is the ultimate goal.

Yes, there is a speed limit, but it is a means to the end of highway safety. Driving the speed limit in the left lane (which is supposed to be used only when passing) or disrupting the flow of traffic in an unsafe manner is contrary to the ultimate goal of a safe driving environment for everyone.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 30, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't think driving safety is the ultimate goal

People may say it is, but if that was true people would all be going at about four mph.

The goal in driving is to maximise happiness, which is a function of stress reduction (safety, lateness) and enjoyment. Those factors vary per person.

by Graham MacAree on Nov 30, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Speed doesn't kill, difference in speed kills

I suppose that to accept the “keep right accept to pass” approach, you have to inherently accept that there will be speed variation on a roadway and people will speed.

There’s a reason fatality rates are significantly lower on speed unlimited portions of the Autobahn that have more traffic than your average rural interstate- drivers look at lane discipline as the most important part of driving.

I guess that’s the fundamental difference. People like you who value speed limits above all else have trouble seeing a need for good lane discipline. People who value lane discipline above all else tend to not value speed limits as much.

Unfortunately, as long as you accept as fact that cars will speed no matter what you or the police or anybody else want, then lane discipline is more important.

And honestly, I don’t get this argument. If I’m going 90 and you’re going 60, why the hell would you WANT me to approach you in the left lane? From a safety standpoint you’re just endangering yourself- somebody is going to rear end you. If they’re speeding excessively it’ll be their fault, but why even risk it?

The error is in the assumption that “the defacto rule of highway speeds is that everyone should go the same speed regardless of what’s posted”- that’s an ideal hope, not a rule. I can’t think of a freeway in the country where all lanes travel the same speed.

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by Corco on Nov 30, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions   5 recs

There's other safety issues in play as well

Passing on the left is safer than passing on the right by no small margin- every left hand drive car in North America has better visibility on the left than the right. The other issue is that exits are generally on the right side of the road, so traffic is more likely to change lanes to the right than to the left.

It’s better to keep faster traffic on the left in all circumstances just because of that. A free form highway where all lanes are fair game would involve in lots of passing on the right and lead to more accidents because of visibility and excessive lane changes

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Nov 30, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

For what it's worth,

I wasn’t arguing that I should drive at exactly the speed limit when everyone else is exceeding it by 10 mph. I agree that it’s safest to drive at the same speed as the flow of traffic. As you said, “difference in speed kills”.

My point is simply that cops regularly pull people over for exceeding the posted speed limit even if they’re going the same speed as the traffic flow and even though many modern cars are safe at higher than posted speed limits. What annoys me is the inconsistency between the posted legal speed limit and the societal norms about regularly exceeding the speed limit for reasons of safety.

Maybe I’m not explaining this very well…

by urchman on Nov 30, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt that the intention of the law was to promote speeders

In theory, everybody would go the speed limit always and we wouldn’t need multiple lane roads.

There’s basically two relevant things that are accepted as safe driving in an ideal world:
1) People shouldn’t speed
2) People should keep right except to pass

Now, if you’re going the speed limit and you need to use the left lane to pass a car (because there are cars that go under the speed limit, obviously), then the left lane is your burrito to do as you please.

The enabling of people exceeding the speed limit are just sort of a collateral consequence of the second part (just as people driving under the speed limit are a consequence of the first part), but in no way should impact your driving behavior. If you’re going the speed limit and keeping right except to pass, moving into the left lane to pass cars as needed, then you’re driving safely.

On the other point, the thing a lot of “ZOMG DON’T SPEED” people don’t realize is that a great majority of speed limits set in this country are arbitrary. One need only point to any two lane road in eastern Oregon for a good western example. It’s pretty widely accepted as fact that the “safe” speed to drive is the 85th percentile speed on any given road, which very often isn’t the case. If 85% of cars are going 70 MPH, the speed limit should be 70. If it’s posted at 55, then we’re drifting into ZOMG NO POLITICS territory.

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by Corco on Nov 30, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh those annoy the shit out of me.

Like whatever highway goes south to Bend from the gorge, it should be like 80 there. Theres not a fucking thing.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 30, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Highway 97. And don't trash Highway 97 between the Gorge and Bend.

My hometown is on Highway 97 between the Gorge and Bend.

But you’re right. I’m semi-actively campaigning for it to become Interstate 7, just so that the drug runs from Mexico through Oregon and Washington are sped up just that much more.

Mute the Sounders. Malamute the Huskies.

by thehemogoblin on Nov 30, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't mean to trash the highway. That is one beautiful drive.

It just annoys me that I have to drive 55 when there are no cars within 5 miles of me. But, eastern Oregon is one of my favorite camping/road trip destinations.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 30, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I meant as in disrespect. Not as in rubbish.

And I love how you can plan anything for any day of the year over there and the weather won’t suck more than you expect. Hate the constant drip-drip-drip of the Willamette Valley.

Mute the Sounders. Malamute the Huskies.

by thehemogoblin on Nov 30, 2010 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I know what you mean.

Portlands a pretty cool city and all but the weather is depressing as hell. I couldn’t live there.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 30, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

The basic speeding law in nearly every state does not call out exceeding the posted limit

instead, it calls out driving in a manner unsafe for the current conditions or impeding the flow of traffic – the speed limit is a guideline as to what speed becomes unsafe for the current conditions, but many speed limits are designed around vehicles built in the 1960’s and 1970’s.

You would have a very hard time convincing me that my current vehicle cannot safely operate on an open highway at 85 mph

by seattlebruin on Nov 30, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

"The speed limit is a guideline"

Try using that in court when you have to fight a ticket for going 8 mph over.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I would argue it is a guideline.

Yes, it is a legal maximum, but enforcement is dependent on officer discretion and often that decision is made based on safety. Not always, but often. Also, driving at the legal limit in an unsafe way or in unsafe conditions is still a ticketable offense – the speed limit is no defense in those cases.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 30, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

A friend of mine got a ticket for “speed too fast for conditions” for going 50 mph on the freeway in a very heavy rain.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

He got pulled over for going to fast in the cops opinion.

He was almost the only car on the road.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Bothered him too.

But it got thrown out in court, so there’s that.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep.

He was not a happy man.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Happened to me once.

Got pulled over on my Suzuki GS850 and the cop asked for proof of insurance. Well since motorcycles are not required to carry insurance in this state, and I really couldn’t afford it at the time, I didn’t have any. I asked the cop why he wanted insurance card on a motorcycle and he said “All motor vehicles in the state of Washington must have insurance”. I told him that motor cycles were the exception and he looked at me like I was crazy, so I let it drop. He wrote me the ticket, I went to court (with proof of the exemption printed off of the RCW website) and wasted half a day of work waiting for them to get to me and litterally let me leave 30 seconds later without having to pay a dime.

 All his mistake lack of knowledge cost me was a half day of my pay.

by ToddK on Nov 30, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too.

You should have sued him.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm still hunting him.

He’s a Seatac cop. I live in Seatac. It’s only a matter of time.

by ToddK on Nov 30, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Aren't you allowed to ask for his badge number?

If he is handing out citations for something that is legal, isn’t that robbery?

Dawg! He put da team on his back!

by JAH on Nov 30, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you're right.

Although the officer’s name and badge number should be noted on the ticket.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

This was like 7 years ago.

I think the statute of limitations has probably run out by now.

by ToddK on Dec 1, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

You are totally allowed to ask for a badge number.

And if he doesn’t give it to you, you can file a complaint with the police department.

by Joe Metro on Dec 1, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

While I completely agree with you

How many people out there are driving poorly-maintained cars that are dangerous enough on the road at 60mph, let alone at 85mph? Bad tires, bad brakes, mechanical issues that could cause problems, etc. It’s the same principle as most have about driving in the snow/ice: “It’s not ME I worry about, it’s the other drivers on the road that scare me.”

by tootthekazoo on Nov 30, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

This line cracks me up

“Somewhere along the line, most of Western Washington forgot how to drive on the freeway.”

That would imply that they ever KNEW how to drive on the freeway in the first place.

by pdb on Nov 30, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Vigilante speed enforcement.

What the hell possesses people to do this?

by BrianL on Nov 30, 2010 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I seriously hate that having a driver's license is treated like a right and not a privilege.

This country loses more people every year to bad driving but we do nothing about it. At minimum 25% of the people who are on the road do not have the skills required to participate safely.

by Sec 108 on Nov 30, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

And it's a privilge that the DOL can revoke for any reason they see fit.

Too bad horrible driving or lack of skill don’t seem to be on the list.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Oops, missed an "e" in there.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate hate hate when people do this.

“Dammit, I’m not going to ALLOW you to break the speed limit!”
/crotchety old man

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 30, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

It annoys the hell out of me.

I’ve got a thing about driving behind large vehicles like buses, eighteen-wheelers, and other large things that I can’t see over the top of. If I can, I will pass them so I can have better visibility in front of me.

I can’t count the number of times during the week I try to do that but can’t because some asshole is doing 59 in the far left lane.

by BrianL on Nov 30, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Fucking 509.

I drive it for work and run into those left lane campers constantly.

by Eyebrows on Nov 30, 2010 10:04 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Run into them harder.

Maybe that’ll get ’em off the damned highway.

by ToddK on Nov 30, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

They say they pull people over for this and ticket them, but I've NEVER seen this happen.

How can they possibly find and ticket these people when they spend 90% of their time sitting in one place running a radar gun?

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

The Rockies just handed out a ton of money. Rotoworld:
Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports that Jorge De La Rosa will receive $32-33 million over three years from the Rockies.
In other words, he’ll get virtually the same deal Ted Lilly signed with the Dodgers. We suspect he won’t be worth it in the end, but at least Rockies general manager Dan O’Dowd didn’t cave and guarantee him a fourth year.
Tracy Ringolsby reports that Troy Tulowitzki will receive $157.75 million over the next 10 seasons.
As mentioned earlier, the Rockies will pay the remaining $23.75 million left on Tulowitzki’s current contract, as well as pick up his $15 million option for 2014. The new contract will give him $119 million over six additional seasons, taking him through 2020 and his age-35 season. It’s a hefty commitment, but the Rockies obviously view Tulo as their franchise player.

Holy shit.

RIP Dave Neihaus.

by Goose on Nov 29, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

That would do nothing for me.

I am one of the few who hates the Yankees far more than the Sawx. Now Sawx fans are a different matter.

by Sec 108 on Nov 30, 2010 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Well I'm with you. Its too bad horrible contracts never hurt the Yankees too badly.

A-Rods contract could cripple a franchise and the Yanks don’t even blink an eyelash.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 30, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers gave Ted Lily a big contract?

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly no one in Los Angeles cares about the Dodgers right now.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Nobody cares about your fantasy team.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

:( So true

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm a big fan of Tulowitzki, but I don't yet see him as a franchise player.

I know that would probably put me in the minority since he’s a shortstop who can hit and be a perennial MVP candidate, but I guess since 2008 doesn’t seem that long ago, it makes me think about what would happen if you had to pay Nomar Garciaparra 20 million a year for the final 6 years of a 10 year deal.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 30, 2010 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Black Friday, did you brave it? Did you get anything good?

Worked Friday. Wife left at 10pm Thanksgiving night to head to the outlet stores, waited three hours to find a parking spot, gave up and went to the local mall. I, on the other hand, enjoyed sleep and not spending money.

Leftovers! Do you have them? What will you do with them?

Nope. Had dinner at a restaurant.

Holiday Music! Do you like it? Hate it? Is it still too early for it? Same thing with decorations, too soon for lights?

Hate Christmas music and I won’t decorate until mid-December. Bah humbug.

RIP Irvin Kerschner, director of the best Star Wars :(

Star Wars Holiday Special?

And of course, beer is always on topic in the off topic!

Got a bottle of Ommegang Adoration for my birthday this past weekend. (Along with a lot of scotch.) Also, Clown Shoes’ Pecan Pie Porter was really, really good.

by ThomasG on Nov 29, 2010 6:45 PM PST reply actions  

Forgot to post this while in season. Another dumpster toss.

I went to elementary school with Kotchman. Broke my arm at recess being an ultra competitive douchebag. Kissed my crush in middle school. Now I have blood feud with him that he is not aware of.

I even plunk him in The Show no matter what the situation.

by w00tah on Nov 29, 2010 6:59 PM PST reply actions  

That would be a great M's commercial.

Gutz just going about his day, unintentionally foiling somebody at every turn. Merges in front of him in traffic. Gets the best cantaloupe at the grocery store. Parks in the front row of the cinema’s parking lot. Saves a baby from a fire while the guy saves a box full of kittens. Last shot is Gutierrez leaping up to rob a home run Random Guy would have caught in the bleachers. He shakes his fist at the sky. GUTIERRREZZZZZZZZ!

Dawg! He put da team on his back!

by JAH on Nov 29, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

But what's the slogan?

Seattle Mariners: We’ve better than you.

by yuniform on Nov 30, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I finally got Operation Mincemeat from the library

(Decatur mentioned it a while back)

Aside from the wonderfully improbable tale that makes up the main story, there are a multitude of digressions that each would make a wonderful film or television adaptation

by msb on Nov 29, 2010 7:45 PM PST reply actions  

Challenge!

Go to The Way Back Machine and find/post the most interesting or fun archive that you can find!

Let me start! Hint look at the sidebar

by Robert on Nov 29, 2010 9:33 PM PST reply actions  

Trade proposals from AK?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 29, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

`

HappyPuppy.com

The place to find what meager amounts of gaming news got onto the internet. I remember I used to scour that site looking for interesting looking PC demos.

by BrianL on Nov 29, 2010 11:15 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

HOLY SHIT!

A Happy Puppy reference? I completely forgot about that place. I used to spend hours download demos from there.

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 30, 2010 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Happy Puppy was place where I spent the majority of my time on the Internet.

So many PC demos downloaded on a slow-as-hell 28.8k faxmodem. I remember being excited when my download rate topped 2 kb/s

by BrianL on Nov 30, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I did the same thing.

We had this gigantic external SCSI burner. One out of every five burns would fail and you’d have to try again (back when blank CDs were expensive).

by BrianL on Nov 30, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

God napster made everything easy

I had to download 30 .rar files off of newsgroups or eggdrop bots on IRC to get the good stuff.

by d0nkey on Nov 30, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, a shitload actually.

EFnet is still running warez channels actually. Newsgroups still exist for piracy too.

by d0nkey on Nov 30, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm on IRC right this moment

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm on IRC almost daily

its actually rather pleasant these days because the channels I go to are generally by invite only.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm on IRC right now, because I'm a cool kid!

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."

by joof on Nov 30, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually I scripted mine in mIRC.

I didn’t get to know Bitchx at all and pIRCh just wasn’t flexible or quick enough. Plus it had serious trouble with raws which I used extensively while scripting. The speed on a split was incredible.

by ToddK on Nov 30, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't care for mIRC without the use of a good script.

Bitchx was what I used because my internet access was dialup to a unix box at first. And hey, unix!

by d0nkey on Nov 30, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Stable as hell.

But she’s an icy bitch if you don’t get it right.

by ToddK on Nov 30, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, NYC

@ bkabak R[iver]A[ve]B[lues] Mailbag! "1 man does not make a team but lets face it, all NYY games are sold out for one particular reason & that reason is Mr. Jeter."

by msb on Nov 30, 2010 7:21 AM PST reply actions  

Has anybody heard anything about Hulu coming to Xbox 360?

I remember reading about it back in June or July, but now that we’re within a month or so of the announced roll out date, I haven’t heard anything in a long, long time.

Is it still happening? Is it still on target for January?

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 30, 2010 9:18 AM PST reply actions  

At this point I'd imagine that it will hit with the Spring dashboard update

I heard some scuttlebutt yesterday that Microsoft is looking into turning the 360 into a Google-TV-style device, which would probably include Hulu in some capacity. That may be a ways off from coming to fruition, but with Microsoft typically only updating in the Spring and Fall, it may be a few more months still before we see it

by tootthekazoo on Nov 30, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

This is kinda neat

Know a line from a movie, but can’t remember what movie? Not only does this give you the movie that the quote is from, it gives you the time in the movie it appears and the context. It also links to IMDB and Netflix.

by pdb on Nov 30, 2010 9:33 AM PST reply actions  

Holy shit.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 30, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

So in a week's time a new laptop will arrive at my doorstep.

The last laptop I bought I paid Geek Squad $10 to get rid of all the bloatware and do some registry tweaks, but this one is coming straight from the manufacturer. Anyone have any tips on software to use to get rid of stuff in one fell swoop (I presume CCleaner but I’m sure there are others) or other adjustments I should look at making?

by Aaron Campeau on Nov 30, 2010 9:59 AM PST reply actions  

The last time I bought a Windows machine

I used both CCleaner and The PC Decrapifier. Between the two programs pretty much every piece of bloatware was gone.

by pdb on Nov 30, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

These are what I use also.

They work great. Then load Spybot S&D and scan your drive and you’re set.

by ToddK on Nov 30, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

For registry, I personally use Registry Clean Expert.

$30 bucks for a copy and one few upgrade (though I got it free, hehe). For viruses and stuff, if you don’t want to pay, Microsoft Security Essentials is a solid product. Most products I’ve seen usually either fix viruses or registry, not both, so if somebody knows of one that does both that would probably be better.

by Coach Owens on Nov 30, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I think you mean "free".

If It’s a program that is sold and I didn’t buy it, I am not going to use it.

by ToddK on Nov 30, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

In this day and age there's really no need to steal software for stuff like this

because there are just as many free alternatives that are just as good if not better.

by pdb on Nov 30, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

You clearly do not know what morals are.

Morals are a means of personal motivation based on one’s perception of right and wrong. It is not a societal issue at all.

by Sec 108 on Nov 30, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I knew you were just trying to get a rise out of us.

I was tempted to reply just saying “ME BEER” to highlight that, but decided against it.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 30, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, so trolling is okay now?

Well I’m off to Halo’s Heaven.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 30, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

CCleaner, PC Decrapifier.

Then go through add/remove programs to manually remove what’s left.

by BrianL on Nov 30, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

There's absolutely nothing wrong with what you did.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Dec 1, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Assuming that they actually did remove all of it, then whatever

$10 is not that much and you basically paid it as a matter of convenience which saved you 10-15 minutes of doing it on your own. No big deal

by tootthekazoo on Dec 1, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

While I think it's absolutely absurd you have to pay someone to remove bloat from your computer

because it shouldn’t be there in the first place, $10 really isn’t all that much to pay to get crapware removed.

by BrianL on Dec 1, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

They did some other stuff to it as well.

And they’d done it before I bought it. It was either buy that one for an extra $10 or wait another two weeks.

by Aaron Campeau on Dec 1, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah that's a really shady tacit that they use.

I can’t remember where I read it but alot of the times but there more of the same computers in back. Bloatware might be the most annoying thing about technology and I would really like it if I could remove it from my own cellphone without having to void my warranty.

by Robert on Dec 1, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm so happy that I can uninstall the AT&T apps on my Windows Phone

That was the first thing I did upon firing it up. I’m amazed that the carriers allowed Microsoft to make that a requirement

by tootthekazoo on Dec 1, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm glad that you are enjoying your Windows but I can not see the buzz behind it.

I really don’t see what microsoft can do that iOS and Android already does minus further fragmenting developers resources.

by Robert on Dec 1, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

It's all about the UI to me

Plus it’s fun to earn gamerscore on Xbox live with the phone

by tootthekazoo on Dec 1, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I will say that the UI on the Windows phones are exceptionally nice.

From a developers perspective, though, there’s a real allure to it. The Windows phones have a unified OS like Apple but has a more Android-like open marketplace. Combine that with the fact that if you can code in .NET, you can code for these phones.

by BrianL on Dec 1, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

It really does seem to have struck a great balance between iOS and Android

Like you said, it is unified and Microsoft has minimum standards for hardware which makes it much easier to develop for and really sets it apart from Android in that regard. Some of the apps are really, really polished and can only stand to get better as the developers learn more about what they can really do with the platform.

I’m very happy with my phone already and I can only see it getting better from here, starting next month with the first major update to the OS

by tootthekazoo on Dec 1, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I find the UI to be incredibly boring and ugly but that's just me.

And while the theming/specs of the different android devices leads to some real problems, I don’t see any better interface than what Android presents.

by Robert on Dec 1, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Android has a way of disabling the bloatware without voiding the warranty

Needs root access to do it (which can be done without voiding the warranty, look for the rage hack depending on what phone you have)

  1. pm list packages (lists the bloatware / packages installed )

then

  1. pm disable XXX (example: pm disable com.amazon.mp3)

by d0nkey on Dec 1, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting, goooooo on

I have the Evo 4G and am looking to rid myself of every unnecessary battery draining process that I can find.

by Robert on Dec 1, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Although to be honest, if you go about putting Cyanogenmod's rom on it

and backup the original rom, they really can’t do anything about you breaking your warranty if you flash the original rom before you turn it in.

Have you looked into how to get the CM rom on it yet?

by d0nkey on Dec 1, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I put the CM rom on my G1 but I wasn't happy with the performance so I reverted back to stock.

The big thing is that I don’t want to lose 4G (I’m using it right now to tether in the middle of a parking lot and its amazing). Although this rom is making it mighty tempting to resist…

by Robert on Dec 1, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The G1 was seriously lacking resources to run CM

I am seeing that the 4G isn’t working on CM yet so I would follow this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304 and do the rooting process but don’t install a custom rom.

When you get root, then open a terminal emulator and do the # pm disable xx commands and you should be golden.

by d0nkey on Dec 1, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

You know, when he posted that I was fully expecting you to make a comment about how you had already done this

I’m shocked that you didn’t know about this. Don’t you ever go to the xda-developers site?

by tootthekazoo on Dec 1, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I know that when you root your phone you can install custom roms sans bloatware but I didn't know you could selectively remove it.

Also I was pretty sure that there was no temporary root for the EVO. I’m waiting for news on 2.3 before I go about permanently rooting it.

by Robert on Dec 1, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

The method I posted doesn't remove it, it just disables the software you choose and doesn't let the system restart them

But it is essentially the same thing. Except that if you had removed the software, any future updates to android would fail because of how the update process works.

This method is fine if you don’t want to go thru the rooting process, but it is not possible without root access, so unless there is a temp root method, that won’t do you any good.

by d0nkey on Dec 1, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh

I bought an “optimized” computer from Best Buy a bit over a year ago, but since it was the only one they had in stock and I didn’t want to pay for that, they didn’t charge me for the optimization and I paid normal sticker price

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Dec 1, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

You did just fine with that

Assuming they actually did get all of the crap off of the computer, $10 is a pittance

by tootthekazoo on Dec 1, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

That bloatware is what keeps PC's price points so far below Macs despite equivalent hardware.

It’s subsidy from those software companies—they pay the OEM to basically advertise as a vendor on your machine.

Don't worry; I'm a writer.

by harkening on Dec 2, 2010 1:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Hyperbole and a half is wonderful.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 30, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Holy shit, my dog can't walk up stairs and failed the same tests.

My wife is convinced he’s retarded but I keep telling her otherwise. He’s dumb as a rock but wants nothing more then to be near me and make me happy in whatever way his limited mind will allow and I wouldn’t want it any other way.

No matter where you go, there you are.

by KC Mariner on Nov 30, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

This blog is wonderful.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 30, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Fun Jamie Moyer facts time!!!!! Yay!!

When Tommy John actually had “Tommy John Surgery” Jamie Moyer was 11 years old.

Tommy John and Jamie Moyer careers overlapped from 1986-1989.

Tommy John pitched until he was 46. He and Jamie Moyer are two of the oldest lefties to ever play in the majors.

Jamie Moyer needs 22 wins to pass Tommy John as the 7th winningest left-hander in league history.

Tommy John is a perfect example of why Jamie Moyer will not make the Hall of Fame.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 30, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

I never really thought Moyer was a HOF candidate anyway.

But he is an interesting player, and maybe belongs in the Hall of the Very Good.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Hopworks is having a tasting at FTB tomorrow.

It seems they only make organic beers. Has anyone tried their stuff yet?

by ToddK on Nov 30, 2010 11:23 AM PST reply actions  

Depends on how close it is to you and how much you like tastings.

I cannot stand going to stuff like that, but if you generally enjoy them and FTB is close by, I’d do it. Their beer isn’t amazing but it’s decent enough to try, and you might like it more than I did.

by Aaron Campeau on Nov 30, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Topic: ugly hats

This is the ugliest Seahawks hat I’ve seen not involving neon green. I like this one, though.
Those blue-green gradient hats are just the worst, with the pink gradient hats a close second. I’m kinda glad baseball isn’t aware of breast cancer.

by yuniform on Nov 30, 2010 11:38 AM PST reply actions  

"Hi!! I'm a Seahawks fan, and also a giant douchebag!"

That is what that hat says to me.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

My step-son is not a douchebag.

He’s a dork, but not a douche.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

That's probably an apt description.

It’s also the reason I drink.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

But she beats me because I drink...

I think I have a conundrum on my hands.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

So I was looking through Sean Smith's WAR database and thought I'd see what his TZ calculations

said about Derek Jeter. For his career, TZ has him at -103. For comparison, I randomly looked up a few other HOF SS who played after 1953, such as Ozzie Smith, Cal Ripken, Jr., and Luis Aparicio. None of those guys had career TZ ratings under 100. Jeter is so hilariously bad that it’s funny to see how many people think he’s good at defense.

by Coach Owens on Nov 30, 2010 11:42 AM PST reply actions  

Derek Jeter is good at defense to the casual fan

the casual fan only recognizes defense in terms of how many errors/bad looking plays a player makes, and Jeter has always had good hands and scored well on the error runs calculations.

It’s simply a matter of many fans now becoming more and more educated about the game and leaving those casually following in the dust behind them.

by seattlebruin on Nov 30, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

The age old softball debate....

Do you want the flashy, rangy SS that occasionally botches the easy play, or throws one into a stroller in the stands? Or do you want the guy who just makes every single play he gets his hands on, even though he has limited range and won’t “wow” anyone.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Slide you idiot.

Fuck you Giambi,

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

You'll be happy.

I installed the Windows 7 RC on my PC at home two years ago and never went back to XP.

by BrianL on Nov 30, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of Windows 7, I forgot to upgrade my laptop with the free upgrade when I bought it last year

does anyone know if these are still valid, or another cheap way I can pick up Windows 7? Is it still true that students at major universities can get cheap/free copies of Windows OS?

by seattlebruin on Nov 30, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you can still get a heavily discounted copy if you're a study.

Not sure though, I tend to get free stuff through my school MSDN account which is only open to CIS/IT students.

Short of that, track down a Microsoft employee and they can get you a copy for $30.

by BrianL on Nov 30, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Microsoft has always confused me this way.

Their stuff is never ever cheap, but then they have random ways for you to get it free/really cheap. My mom works at a hospital that has a deal that gets you Office Pro for $15 unlimited copies.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 30, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a calculated thing for them.

Offer their products for cheap/free to people like computer science students who, after graduating, may be more inclined to bring in Microsoft products to future employers.

That hospital may have cut a deal with Microsoft to get their employees personal licenses on the cheap in exchange for buying a fuckton of their product.

by BrianL on Nov 30, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Adobe occasionally does the same thing for students if you ask.

VMWare is another company that gives their rather expensive stuff away to students.

by BrianL on Nov 30, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm hoping I can get some good shit once I sign up for some computer classes.

I probably can now but I’m to stupid and lazy to go find out how. Mostly lazy.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 30, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

My student email was still valid last January

so I bought it cheap through some online deal.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

My wife's student email still works after nearly 2 years

And she was also employed at a local community college last year for a quarter and still has a valid address with them. I bought a laptop at a pawn shop a few months back and get Windows 7 Pro 64-bit for $30, which is fucking awesome

by tootthekazoo on Nov 30, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

They finally closed my student email account off :(

Which kind of sucks cause I had one of my loan accounts tied to it, but otherwise all I got was university spam.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Dec 1, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

You should like the change quite a bit.

But probably not as much as I loved the change when I went from Vista to 7. Gawd Vista sucks!

by ToddK on Nov 30, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Am I the only one who didn't have any real problems with Vista?

Sure the UI is a bit clunky, but my old computer had it and I never experienced crashes or other issues.

by Coach Owens on Nov 30, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

What kind of boot times did you get with Vista?

My laptop was taking 3-1/2 – 4 minutes to boot up. And that’s with zero programs in startup and 3 gigs RAM.

With 7 my boot time is ~40 seconds and that’s with a bios password.

by ToddK on Nov 30, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Not that long.

That computer has slowed down quite a bit over the past couple of years so I don’t really remember but I would say under a minute.

by Coach Owens on Nov 30, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

That's easily my most favorite feature of Windows 7

I close the laptop lid and it goes to sleep, I open it back up and I’m on the internet in less than 20 seconds. Vista would take a lifetime to do the same thing

by tootthekazoo on Nov 30, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup.

Vista is almost as bad a Millenium was.

by ToddK on Nov 30, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Call me!

(but keep in mind that I will not in be SD from the 24th on)

by seattlebruin on Nov 30, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

You guys should go here:

http://www.afktavern.com/about.php

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

It's really close to my house actually.

Guess I’ll have to build that nerd fence after all…

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

If they had an Axis & Allies night, I would *so* be there.

Their “bug fixes” section is pretty fun – I’m glad they’re reducing the spawn time of their waiters and waitresses.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 30, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

According to what I've read, it's open.

But it’s only been open for a short time.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

They want the nerds to feel at home.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably.

It’s the only way they could get their sons to leave the house, so we could have some “alone” time.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually kind of wish there was something like this in LA

I need a way to make some more IRL friends.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I smell a business opportunity.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I know there's a place down the street that's sort of like

a Japanese cafe you might find in Akihabara coupled with also being an art Gallery. Seems a little too artsy for most geeks though.

The comic book shop around the corner does nerd Wednesdays but I don’t really feel comfortable around the guy who runs the place.

You would think in a city that is a semi hub of game development there would be something like this.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

All you need is some space and a liquor license.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Well space isn't cheap

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Then you must go on a quest for the riches of Oldendork.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Word

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Up?

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I know that somewhere, out there, beyond the pale moon light - someone wants to talk about Pac-Ten basketball.

I have nobody to talk about it with!

I think the Cougs could be a real contender next year. That is all.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 30, 2010 3:46 PM PST reply actions  

True of a few of their shooters but especially him.

I also am amused that our best senior is not Venoy Overton or MBA but rather Justin Holiday.

by Sec 108 on Nov 30, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

But we need to figure out what to do when it's not.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 30, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Bam, Abdul Gaddy.

The guy’s much improved already and if Scott Suggs can as well then the Huskies will be unstoppable.

by Coach Owens on Nov 30, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

During the 2008 Final Four

or slightly before that. Probably the Washington game that year. Howland is probably the worst coach in the conference

by seattlebruin on Nov 30, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I listened to last nights USC game on my drive home

and it was almost as depressing as football. No defense, no hustle, no energy. Bleh.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 30, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

0-18 forthcoming season says yes.

Oregon’s been 250th or worse each of the last three years in three-point percentage defense.

Mute the Sounders. Malamute the Huskies.

by thehemogoblin on Nov 30, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Attention anyone who wants ESPN Insider but doesn't really want to pay anywhere near full price

I found a super good deal: $2.00 for a year subscription. The deal ends at 9:00pm Pacific tonight, though, so for most of you reading this it’s probably too late.

(So I realize this is kind of spam but I have no affiliation with ESPN. If it’s spam enough for this site then the mods can hide this. I’m really not trying to shill here.)

I bought it and I’m having trouble activating my account but I’ll let you know once I get it to work (or if I don’t).

by Double06 on Nov 30, 2010 6:09 PM PST reply actions  

OK, so as usual I'm late to the pop culture party.

While normally I watch an ever confusing mix of News channels, Sports channels, and scientific programming, I’ve been on a three day marathon of Big Bang Theory episodes, and I’m in love. If this is what I’m missing on network television (with the exception of the brilliant Craig Ferguson), I am remiss.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Nov 30, 2010 9:30 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah I just caught onto that show about a month back.

I had heard of it(I admit mostly from Family Guy) but never really checked it out. That show is fucking hilarious.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 30, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe I'll need to give it another chance because I got bored of it really quickly.

That was 3 years ago though so maybe it’s gotten better. I’m a big fan of Community on NBC. They make a lot of pop culture references and they make them absurdly. Lots of deadpan humor too. And no laugh tracks either, which is a plus.

by Double06 on Dec 1, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, yes, I agree.

I was trying to put that into words but was having trouble. I kind of associate it with ‘Noises Off!’ and ‘Airplane!’

by Double06 on Dec 1, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

It was a play that was later made into a movie.

The premise is that there’s a play where everything goes wrong, and you get to see what led up to the mistakes backstage. It’s been a while since I’ve seen either the play or the movie, but as I remember it you get to see several train wrecks in slow motion before it actually happens, and then there are the train wrecks that come out of nowhere and catch you by surprise.

Link

by Double06 on Dec 1, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Still looking for that right Christmas gift?

How about the entire Playboy catalouge on a hard drive for $300?.

That’s actually not a bad deal I think. And boobies aside, it’s a fascinating look into how the world has changed over the last 50+ years.

RIP Dave Neihaus.

by Goose on Nov 30, 2010 11:25 PM PST reply actions  

Yup, totally about the history.

I mean I didn’t even know it had naked chicks.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 30, 2010 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Does this mean we're planning on playing Jack Wilson?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Dec 1, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

THEN WHO PLAYS SHORT?

LUIS RODRIGUEZ? SEAN KAZMAR?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Dec 1, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

WE HAVE THREE

MIKE WILSON WILL BE PLAYING SHORTSTOP

OFFENSE!

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Dec 1, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Fuck this shit.

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."

by joof on Dec 1, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

UGH

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Dec 1, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I still am dumbfounded that they are allowing this to happen unless I am completely off-base and Newton is an innocent guy.

Look, I know that a lot of BS gets spread around the media and you’re not guilty until proven innocent. Still, the evidence seems pretty solid and though the reports didn’t come out of the University of Auburn, it seems unlikely that a player would choose one school when another school offered him a boaload of cash (unless I’m mistaken)

The longer you let him play, the longer you risk making the championship game and the Heisman trophy an absolute mess down the line. Not that it already isn’t a mess, and the Heisman is really whatever, but there’s some really good schools out there that might not be able to play for the title because Auburn has one of the best players in the country and possibly has him “illegally”

by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 1, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

From what I've read Auburn still isn't off the hook

but it does sound like the NCAA is massively contradicting itself on this. It is mind boggling and as a USC fan especially annoying.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Dec 1, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

If Auburn goes to the title game and wins, there won't be much you can do to punish them retroactively that will piss off the Auburn fans.

They wont take away the title and even if they do try to do that the fans will care but they’ll also be like “Well, we were undefeated and won the title game and we’ll always know that.”

NCAA isn’t going to act now, so they’re letting the almighty dollar win out. Maybe if TCU wasn’t third and Ohio State was, they’d do something about it?

by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 1, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate this. Best solution is for Oregon to beat them in the title game.

Then, the Tigers can get Memphis-ed and lose their runner-up finish.

Mute the Sounders. Malamute the Huskies.

by thehemogoblin on Dec 1, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm rooting for the Ducks anyway.

Even though they’re a rival, they’re still Pac-10.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Good point.

I shouldn’t have even mentioned it.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Amazing, the only night of this week I likely won't play at all...

but I would like to point out that I got good at this game, apparently. My K/D is nearly 1.70 and I’ve been under 1:1 like one time in the past 35 games

by seattlebruin on Dec 1, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I got mine to over .6 now!

Yay for me! Though, for some reason, I suck at core gamemodes.

by Coach Owens on Dec 1, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

You're in my neck of the woods.

I might be lucky to be at .5, although I haven’t really looked lately.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

When I can get my wife to stop playing Sims 3.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

My wife just asked for that for Christmas.

I’m not sure I’ll be able to get in any time on the Xbox once she gets it.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Dec 1, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I have to admit it's pretty cool,

but you’ll be fighting for Xbox time. My wife’s going shopping tonight, so the Xbox is all mine for once!

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven't even started!

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Dec 1, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not very enjoyable to me

I’m terrible at it for some reason and prefer to not spend my precious little gaming time getting my ass whupped. I picked up the new Assassin’s Creed last weekend and have been playing that instead. Much better gaming experience. But I’m still happy to get on and play with our LL group from time to time

by tootthekazoo on Dec 1, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

This one is a little weird in that the run-and-gun style really doesn't work except on a few maps

and sniping/long range engagement is horrible.

Basically you need to excel in the mid-range game and shoot well around corners. I think a lot of it has to do with stopping power going away and stealth being so much easier this time around – stealth is really, really, reallllly good

by seattlebruin on Dec 1, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

It does play differently than past games.

Toot, just keep practicing and you’ll eventually find a style and weapon package that works. At least that’s what I keep hoping for. Adding perks can help too.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Go to guns?

I don’t think I’m at 21 yet…

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

That's my biggest complaint

I’ve got a whole bag of suck to deal with until I can get some good guns available, but I don’t want to put in the time to get them because I’m not enjoying it

by tootthekazoo on Dec 1, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Just play capture the flag or something to level up.

That’s what I’ve been doing. Less frustrating that way.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

FAMAS is solid this time around

but goodness, AK-47 is just the bees knees. My AK-47 K/D is 3.2. Of course, this doesn’t take into account second chance deaths, but I think my overall K/D with that loadout is like 2.7

by seattlebruin on Dec 1, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Mine is 1.49 with the AK-47.

Much better than with any other weapon.

by Coach Owens on Dec 1, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I haven't unlocked any of those yet (or I haven't bought them yet, I can't remember).

Sounds like I should work on that.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Well you've unlocked the FAMAS since it's unlocked at level 14.

The Galil is unlocked at level 20 and the AK-47 is unlocked at level 38.

by Coach Owens on Dec 1, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Then I just need to go buy it (if I have the points).

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Like I said, I'm happy to get on when we can all play together

But the game is no fun to me at all if I’m playing by myself. At least with you guys I have somebody to talk to while I’m going 5/15

by tootthekazoo on Dec 1, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Lets play tonight!

My Macbook Pro shows up tomorrow so I’ll have even less time because I’ll be working every waking moment to February.

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 1, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd be in for some gaming tonight.

I suck, but I’ll play. What time are we thinking?

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

You guys always play so late...

Just kidding. About 8:00 works for me. Gives me time to get home and eat/practice/warm up before we start.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I'm gonna check Red Box and see if I can't rent this game

Then I can play with you guys tonight since my new 360 came like 20 minutes ago!

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Dec 1, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Sweet!!

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm up for mixing it up too.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I flipped a switch on Saturday.

I hadn’t played for a week and my first match I went 27-8

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 1, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I play it all the time.

So I guess I’m just offline when you’re playing and you’re offline when I’m playing.

by Coach Owens on Dec 1, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I see you guys playing individually quite a bit,

but I haven’t had the chance to join in much.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Dec 1, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Gee, I've missed this one:

Death On The Diamond (1934)

A rookie pitcher tries to stop someone from killing the St. Louis Cardinals. Cast: Robert Young, Madge Evans, Mickey Rooney. Dir: Edward Sedgwick. BW-71 mins

by msb on Dec 1, 2010 3:24 PM PST reply actions  

Who would have benefitted most from an expanded playoff system?

Looking back at the last 16 years, the Mariners may have made the playoffs four more times (though there would have been one game playoffs)

Still a terrible idea.

by Fuckmikereilly on Dec 1, 2010 3:50 PM PST reply actions  

I definitely agree with that

I’d have to think the players would as well. In a sport where you get 3 days off per month, it seems asinine to then change that to 3 days off in a week. I’m sure that players would prefer to finish the playoffs by, say, mid-October so that they could spend time with their families

by tootthekazoo on Dec 1, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Not that I know of

I think its just assumed its a 3 game wild card match up.

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 1, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I would have to assume byes would be involved, so I automatically hate it.

Byes are dumb enough in the NFL, and would work more poorly in baseball.

I also assume the season would be shortened by a few games, which I don’t have much trouble with.

by Fuckmikereilly on Dec 1, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

There won't really be "byes" just the wildcard teams will have to play each other to get in.

It gives you a reason to win your division which the yankees tanked so they could play Minnesota

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Dec 1, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

What about this scenario:

Six divisions, four wild card winners total, split evenly for each league. So 10 playoff teams. The wildcard winners play against four of the division winners in the first round of the playoffs. This gives the team with the best regular season record in each league a first round bye. I think it would be kinda cool to have regular season dominance mean something.

by Snowman1025 on Dec 1, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

How much of an effect would there be on hitters because of the huge layoff between the end of the regular season and the start of the second round of playoffs?

In college basketball, the Big East tried this with a double-bye for the top four regular-season teams in the 16-team conference tournament. The teams with double-byes consistently complained about the layoff, and it often showed up in the results (anecdotally, at least; I can’t seem to find brackets for the tournaments where the double-byes were awarded). I would imagine the same concerns would apply in your hypothetical scenario.

Mute the Sounders. Malamute the Huskies.

by thehemogoblin on Dec 1, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't see old fans leaving baseball because of this.

Sure, there are reasons to complain, but I can’t see someone abandoning MLB for it.

by Joe Metro on Dec 1, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I guess that probably wouldn't happen

So then it would be nothing to lose and everything to gain by making a change like this then.

by d0nkey on Dec 1, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Bullshit.

Change means, weeping and fire and catastrophic failure. Next thing you know people are gonna be asking for robots. WHEN DOES IT END.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Dec 1, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I won't abandon the MLB.

But fuck this shit.

The Wild Card, multiple divisions, that made sense. This bullshit does not.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Dec 1, 2010 7:17 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

This may have been posted before,

but oh, the memories! I managed 145/200.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Dec 2, 2010 4:15 PM PST reply actions  

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