2010 Retrospective: Doug Fister
Doug Fister wasn't expected to provide much value in 2010. Stalled in West Tennessee Fister had been demoted out of the rotation to the bullpen. He got himself a ticket to Tacoma's bullpen in early 2009 and after 12.2 good innings re-entered the rotation. And that's when something clicked for him. Fister's walk rate went from 9.5% in West Tenn's rotation to 3.6% in Tacoma.
That was enough to get Fister a call up to the big club in late 2009. He got 10 starts last year and certainly did not wow anyone with remarkable stuff. Still, he managed a merely below average swinging strike rate and he continued his stinginess in allowing walks.
It was commonly thought that Fister would compete for the fifth starter's role long term and eventually be phased out by Erik Bedard. Instead, he made 28 starts and made them adequately. The good news is that Fister demonstrated that his current skill set could work over a full season. Even with an unassuming fastball, an okay change up and little else, Fister pounded the strike zone and avoided hard contact to a solid season.
Along with lasting the whole season, Fister continued to make gains on limiting walks and even boosted his ground ball rate to an above average level. But not everything was gravy. 2010 also saw Fister's swinging strike rate fall all the way to 4.4%, making him the qualified starting pitcher with the lowest rate in baseball.
Fister will continue to provide an intriguing case study in pitching effectiveness. What makes his fastball difficult to square up? Can he use his height to further leverage more ground balls and offset the expected decrease in strikeouts? Will he reverse that declining strikeout trend? How is he not pitching for the Twins? All these questions and more will continue to be pertinent in 2011.
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For some reason I really like Fister.
Not sure why but he would be my second favorite pitcher on the Mariners.
Peneda will probably replace Fister as my second and Cortes will probably take third.
Eat shit bum!
For some reason I really like him too.
His pitches reminded me of my brother’s ping pong serves. I could usually return them, but not for very many good results.
I love Fister so much I got a Fister jersey for my birthday and wear it with pride wherever I go...
Sometimes this leads to unintended results- like the laugh the guy at Ace gave me when I was buying latex gloves while wearing said jersey. “I’m refinishing my deck, I swear.”
by RustyJohn on Nov 20, 2010 9:13 PM PST reply actions 8 recs
for some reason I really think
as long as Doug Fister is in our rotation, the Mariners will never reach .500
I agree
But I can see him being a valuable long man out of the bullpen for a good Mariners team.
Raaagh.
I hate these. They feel like they’re building to something and then it’s just… utterly pointless.
They are like BRUTAL MOCKERIES of actual stories about baseball.
To which I assume the standard reply is “The Mariners were a brutal mockery of an actual MLB team”.
No way you're talking about this post, right?
Matt and Jeff have forgotten more baseball than you’ll ever know, and although they may be making money now from sponsorships and the like, I know it wasn’t always like that.
Love the game, love the beer, love your team.
Who in the world is Matt?
...and now I'm here
What are the odds the Mariners try to sell high and Fister and trade him?
I’m only a casual follower of team, so I don’t really know who else is around, waiting in the Minor Leagues and such. Signing Dave Bush and trading for Fister would make one hell of a rotation for the Mets.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 21, 2010 5:20 PM PST reply actions
Slim, I'd say.
After Felix we don’t really have anything. Pineda should be up at some point and if he lives up to expectations we’ll have a legitimate #2 but at the moment it’s Jason Vargas, Fister, Ryan Rowland-Smith (who you may remember from having the worst tRA in the league last year) and David Pauley.
I also doubt we'd get anything worthwhile even if we sold high.
Fister is still an effective cost controlled starter. Unless we get a better cost controlled starter at a position of weakness, like shortstop, which is obscenely unlikely, what would be the point?
...and now I'm here
Ah, Jason Vargas and his success...
J.J. Putz, you’re the gift that keeps on giving. Fucking Omar…
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 21, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
Omar's gone now.
Though I expect telling you as much is close to saying to a Mariners fan “hey, at least Bavasi is gone”…
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
by JY on Nov 22, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
You guys know our pain. We know your pain.
Tell your Cy Young winner to stop hitting grand slams off of our ace, and we’re all good to go.
"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!"
Gil Hodges IS a Hall of Famer.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Nov 22, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
Is there a resource the explains tRA?
It’s proprietary to Matthew, correct? I love that the Seattle blogs are of such a higher quality than most out there, particularly in baseball. Football has a few that rival Field Gulls, but none match John Morgan’s analyses, similar to Matt and Jeff here.
Love the game, love the beer, love your team.
Not sure exactly what you mean
but here’s Graham’s post explaining it (he and Matthew developed it) and StatCorner has it on their player pages.
by Eyeball Kid on Nov 22, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
'He and Matthew developed it'
No, I developed it. Matthew did the automation on StatCorner
by Graham MacAree on Nov 22, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think Fister would be the centerpiece of a deal
but I could see a scenario where he’d be part of a package for some general manager with really poor prescription glasses on, say Drayton Moore.
by Michael Barr on Nov 21, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
Doug Fister actually doesn't suck
it’s just that he’s not particularly good. As long as he’s cheap and relatively effective, he’s a good piece to the team
by seattlebruin on Nov 22, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
My guess is he will pitch for the Twins at some point
However, I doubt the Twins feel obligated to give him a 4 year 48 million dollar deal that in some perverse way makes up for the Carlos SIlva deal, although that is just a hunch.
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