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Nov 18th OT-- not specifically for Felix, but, yeah, whatever.

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Looking for something else to discuss while the clock ticks down to 11:00 Pacific?

 

Well, as Larry Stone reminds us, November 18th is also the birthday of one Jaime Moyer:

   Happy 48th birthday to Jamie Moyer. Saw him yesterday at a Dave Niehaus celebration and he's looking much younger than his years.

 

Entertain yourself by thinking of things that are younger than Jamie Moyer. And no, the answer is not "everything".

What else happened on November 18th?  Mussolini came to power. Jim Jones got his followers to drink the kool-aid, thus cursing us with a facile line used by every sport talking head. In '49, Jackie Robinson became the first black player to win the MVP Award, beating Stan Musial, Ralph Kiner, and Pee Wee Reese. Sandy Koufax retired at 30 because his elbow hurt so much.

Oh, and Doc Gooden & Bret Saberhagen, ages 20 and 21, won the Cy Youngs in 1984. Which brings us back to the original topic.

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I was hoping someone would post a Cy Young open thread.

I know it’s tacky or immature or out of style or whatever to care about it, but I do.

by Joe Metro on Nov 18, 2010 8:49 AM PST reply actions  

What, are we going to get twitter breaking news about it?

Are we going to get rumors started by Kevin Towers about a trade for future Cy Young considerations?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 18, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Various writing contests between elementary school and high school.

I appear to have done nothing extraordinary since I was about 16. That’s… really disappointing. Thanks, Humbled Fan.

by Joe Metro on Nov 18, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Several fiction and journalism writing contests in high school.

I haven’t really put myself into a position to win awards since graduating.

by BrianL on Nov 18, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Can't think of a darned thing.

The same ribbon every other kid got at ski school in junior high?

A framed photo of Buhner as a weird door prize in a Bremerton restaurant?

oh, there were some nosebleed Sonic tickets that I think I got because David Locke recognized my address from the irritated baseball-related emails I would send him, and was looking for a first winner to get his new contest up and running.

by msb on Nov 18, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

A ribbon that said "Participant"

Uh, in third grade there was that whole “Reflections” art project thing and I took a photo that got to district level and then made honorable mention.

I’m not that competitive a person. I have way more to compete with in just myself and my own standards, so having that outside stimulus or validation doesn’t do much for me.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 18, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

While on my way home from a Sonics game with my Dad, I won ticket to the Thunderbirds game the next night.

We were listening to 97.3 KBSG and I called in and identified “The Lion Sleeps Tonight.” It was ridiculously easy – I mean, really, is there a more distinctive song? – but it was pretty stunning to win. And when I was a junior high-schooler, going to a Sonics game and a Thunderbirds game on back-to-back nights was just about the best thing I could imagine.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 18, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

That's an all-star crew that the Key Arena had, being able to convert from an NBA setup to WHL in roughly 18 hours

I have a buddy that runs maintenance at a prominent local arena and he has to do that kind of shit all the time. Concert on a Friday, hockey on Saturday. He’ll end up pulling 18 hour overnight shifts just to get the shit right

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

At the time I think the Sonics were in the Coliseum (pre-Key Arena) and the T-Birds were in the Mercer Arena.

But generally speaking, I agree – it’s amazing to me how these facilities people transform these huge buildings in so little time.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 18, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

After I wrote that I wondered, since you mentioned going with your dad

But yes, my point still stands. One of the crazier ones he’ll have to do soon involves going from hockey ice to motorcycle racing ice. The motorcycles need the ice to be 2 inches thicker and thus softer than the hockey team does. After the motorcycles, they will have to convert for hockey by the next day, meaning the extra inches of ice need to be taken off. The zamboni clears roughly 1/16" per pass, so that will make for an exciting day of work to get ready for practice and then a game the next day

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I love when they show the time lapse videos

of Staples center being converted from basketball configuration to hockey arena. Its crazy stuff.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 18, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

My team won the Greater Seattle USBC tournament in 2006 or so, which was neat

I also recently won $102.50 from KZOK during a call-in contest they ran in October. What a crock of bullshit that is, though. In order to claim my winnings, I had to take time from my day to drive to the station in Seattle between the hours of 9-5 Monday-Friday (I work in Auburn 8-5 M-F, so this was totally convenient for me) and fill out some paperwork. After I filled out the paperwork, the kind receptionist let me know that I could expect to see a check in the mail in about 8 weeks! So after missing 2 hours of work plus the gas it took to drive all the way to Seattle from Auburn I will probably end up netting about $40. Woo-hoo look at me!

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if this is the really the biggest,

but the first thing that comes to mind for me was when my softball team went undefeated for the season, and won the city championship about 10 years ago.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 18, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I once won a Huffy bicycle from an A&W Rootbeer contest

You know the ones where they display the bike and you have to fill out some information to enter into the contest.

I was 5, the bike was huge, but it was awesome

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period. - some douchebag

by d0nkey on Nov 18, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

My mom won a radio contest one time and the prize was free Doritos for the whole summer

She may have called in, but me and my brother were the real winners there.

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period. - some douchebag

by d0nkey on Nov 18, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I lost for ASB activities coordinator

But I won some high school tuba competitions. Screw you, popular kids

by yuniform on Nov 18, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I've won a few races.

In third grade I won the school spelling bee, then the district one, then the area one, then got fourth at regionals (top three went to state).
Probably the win I’m most proud of is there was an online contest where the moderator said “Pick a number between one and infinity and put it in the replies; closest without going over wins.” I guessed, after thinking about it far more than any normal person would have, one million and ten. The answer was one million and fifty. I won two or three CDs from Menomena, and a book or two from the guy that had done the artwork for Menomena’s latest album.
Oh also I won one of those count-the-candies-in-the-jar things, at some dumb thing at my first college (I totally employed my math skills). They called and told me I won, and I said, “Really?” I went and got the thing and it was assorted candies, like skittles and M&Ms, and the tastes had kinda blended into each other. It lasted like six months and I think I only finished it out of obligation to my six-year-old self.

by RunningFool on Nov 18, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Couple hundred dollars for 5th place in the Junior Bowlers Tour Northwest Invitational, 2008-9

But I also won tickets to Mariners Opening Day 1995.

And the Sweet Hat stuff from this year. I guess I win a lot of things. I’m a lucky bastard.

Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Career .384 BA, .543 OBP for Rocky Diablos

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 18, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Couple hundred dollars *scholarship

I paid for my first semester of College with bowling prize scholarships.

by BigR on Nov 18, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

As far as i can remember

I was at a Huskies baseball game where i recovered a foul ball turned it in, got a ticket, turned the ticket in for a drawing, and ended up winning a team autographed baseball that has one Forrest Snow.

…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell

by Marinerfanjake on Nov 18, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh that's another thing I won! I forgot about this:

I was in high school debate for one trimester (why oh why didn’t we just call them quarters like everybody else) and went to one tournament. The part where I actually debated I sucked, but there was also something called Dual Interpretation that was pretty much Two-Person Skit (and you couldn’t move around). My friend and I did a couple scenes from Tommy Boy strung together, and even though I said “shit” once (“‘Cause they know all they sold you was a guaranteed piece of shit! That’s all it is, isn’t it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I’ve got spare time.”) we won by a large margin. We watched some of the other people, and they were just really bad over-actors.

by RunningFool on Nov 18, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Because trimesters and quarters are not the same thing?

Trimester means the school year is split into three parts, where quarters are split into four…

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 18, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes but schools with quarters have three parts, plus optional summer school

And since summer school was optional at my school, they could quite easily have called them quarters.

by RunningFool on Nov 18, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Rosenthal tweets
#Mariners not ruling out run for J. Upton. Could build package around RHP Pineda. #Diamondbacks #MLB

by BrianL on Nov 18, 2010 9:12 AM PST reply actions  

Now that this is actually in print, the thought is terrifying.

I love the idea of Upton, but I also love the idea of Felix and Pineda in the rotation.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 18, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Doug Fister and Jason Vargas are able to hold their own over a full big league season.

Felix + 4 guys that aren’t Carlos Silva = just enough that 5 runs of support would make us a very good team.

I love Michael Pineda and have for a couple years (return my phone calls and notes Michael!) but Upton, Upton, Upton. Yes, more Upton.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 18, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I totally agree with you. I would trade Pineda for Upton.

However, now that I’m faced with that possible reality, it’s terrifying.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Nov 18, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I might write something on Minor League Ball about this.

Because rosterbation is my guilty pleasure. At least, I like to try and work out in my head what prospects it would take for certain teams to acquire Upton.

Hey, Dave does it!

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 18, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

"It was you! I learned it from you!"

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 18, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I'm not interested in Upton if we can't either Ackley or Smoak.

But if we’re able to, holy crap. Holy freaking crap.

RIP Dave Neihaus.

by Goose on Nov 18, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Ehhh I've waffled back and forward on that.

Right now I’d rather deal Pineda just because pitchers are so volatile, but I wouldn’t be opposed to keeping him and dealing Smoak instead.

by BrianL on Nov 18, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Here's my argument for Smoak over Pineda (now not backed up by any statistical evidence!)

while it’s a fairly simple argument that starting pitchers are inherently less valuable than position players due to pitching (and thus affecting the game) only once out of every five days, I would argue that their impact occurs nearly every day because of bullpen usage. A good starting pitcher will allow you to use your relievers, often your better ones less, and thus they’ll be available more often when starters have bad outings or need help from the pen in the late innings.

I think that Pineda is overall a slightly better prospect than Smoak, and as outlined above, I think his impact overall could be greater than Smoak’s. Also, while prospects of the level of Smoak and Pineda don’t exactly grow on trees, finding able bodies to capably man first is much easier than finding a starting pitcher with anywhere near the impact of a full potential Michael Pineda.

Despite the inherent risk of injury due to Pineda being a pitcher, I think it’s worth it because it would give us the potential for two top of the line starters at the top of our rotation which would ease bullpen usage. Smoak, while a wonderful prospect, plays a position which is most easily filled by stopgap players who can provide near-league average production for next to nothing.

by seattlebruin on Nov 18, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Kotchman wasn't the bad front office...

unlesss……… :(

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 18, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Right.

We should try to see if this actually is a chink in the armor. Kotchman was always a guy that scouted extraordinarily well, but since he had that concussion with the Angels, he hasn’t been the same player, hasn’t been able to do anything with the talent.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 18, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I think this is the key for me.

We took a gamble on Branyan and it it paid off the first year. We took a gamble on Kotchman and it didn’t. It’s easy to point to positional rarity and say that it’s easy to pick up a good 1B, but having a young, potentially star-level 1B prospect who is cost-controlled is much different than playing roulette with journeymen on a year-to-year basis.

Which is not to say that a great starting pitcher is any less valuable or easy to replace – it’s just that I don’t trust that really good, young first-basemen are that easy to replace.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 18, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not entirely convinced that the idea behind Kotchman was solid

but I’m also not willing to blame the front office for doing it, which is contradictory but hey whatever.

by Aaron Campeau on Nov 18, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Why not?

it seemed like Kotchman was a good buy-low candidate who had always possessed some potential, and if he’s bad, hey, you’re only committed to him for one season for not that much money

by seattlebruin on Nov 18, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

It seemed that way.

I think that a lot of what happened last year should have taught us some things about roster construction.

by Aaron Campeau on Nov 18, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Bad signings more than anything, I think

There were better options out there, they just weren’t pursued

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Right

But we make it sound like we can just go out and find a good 1B without trying.

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 18, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, it's not that you don't have to try

but the possibility exists, which it would be much harder to say about a front-line starting pitcher, especially now that we missed on Iwakuma

by seattlebruin on Nov 18, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Not the point I'm making

There is just a larger pool out there of competent first baseman than there are better-than-competent starting pitchers

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Budget?

There have been plenty of capable-ish first basemen on the market, we just haven’t gone after them really, save for Russell Branyan

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, this is where my point deviates from sb's

I don’t think that we could approximate Smoak’s production from a “stopgap” guy, but I’m thinking finding one of those ~$3-4M players that are above average but not super great and thus commanding of more money. I’m just not a fan of 1B prospects because they have limited use. I’d rather fill a position like that from outside the organization, unless you end up with a guy that can man the position at a level that makes him worthwhile to start over a higher-paid player

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I think you and I are agreeing almost perectly, actually

I think that the drop in production/value from Smoak to random guy we pick up on a reasonable contract is less than the drop in production/value from Pineda to random starting pitcher we go find.

Obviously, this is looking at like 2012-2013 because of Pineda’s age and Smoak’s troubles in the majors

by seattlebruin on Nov 18, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually meant to say that I deviated slightly from your point

It’s a tough call either way, and assuming that discussions are actually happening about this deal then I don’t envy GMZ at all

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

But the whole argument is that in general, it's easier to find a guy who can give you Smoak's production at first

than Pineda’s impact on the mound.

I think the real point for Smoak here is that he’s definitely closer to reaching his potential and having a major impact at the MLB level

by seattlebruin on Nov 18, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

My biggest concern for Pineda is how many innings we could expect to get from him this year

He only threw 125 last year in MiLB. I know that they capped him there but from what I heard he was getting completely gassed by the time he had reached the 100 mark

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup, exactly

Smoak is way closer to reaching his potential of what, 4.5-5 WAR but I think in terms of long term impact, Pineda can help the club more.

Just an aside, I’d be completely OK with either of them going away if Justin Upton is coming back, but if push came to shove, I’d rather part with the guy I see as more easily replaceable

by seattlebruin on Nov 18, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm with you that I could part with either Pineda or Smoak for Upton.

When it comes down to Smoak vs. Pineda, my thought is that Pineda probably has the higher ceiling by a narrow margin but a higher volatility by a large margin.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 18, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Our points are the same, we're just taking slightly different routes to get there

I’d be happy to make a deal involving either of them and I would end up slightly bummed to see either of them leaving

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

That's about where I am with it

First basemen are much easier to find to fill the position than a stud starting pitcher. I really like Smoak and what he has to offer, but again, he is a first baseman. I’d be okay with dealing either of them, but I’d lean towards sending Smoak if the option was there

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Apparently the Dbacks don't need an infielder anymore.

@LookoutLanding HOLY RT @jonmorosi: #Dbacks acquire INF Juan Miranda from the #Yankees for right-handed pitcher Scott Allen.

by msb on Nov 18, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't forget Smoak's defense

Or lack of it. I think a bunch of us were disappointed when we realized Smoak’s defense and agility were not at all what we expected.

That knocked my opinion of him down a few notches. I have much less faith in him when I’m picturing him as a big clumsy oaf.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Nov 18, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

The reports aren't saying he's a clumsy oaf though, right?

He’s just not necessarily an Olerud defensively – but it sounds more like he’s slightly above average or average than a Sexson-style butcher.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 18, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I would be ok with average.

My brain usually blows things out of proportion when it lacks sufficient data.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Nov 18, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Were they actually hating it, though?

I mostly remember people saying it wasn’t as big of an asset as originally thought.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 18, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

"All of us realized"?

Sorry, but one scout’s opinion is not enough for me to completely discard the general consensus.

by Aaron Campeau on Nov 18, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I can't speak for everyone

In fact, I can’t even speak for myself since everything I know about the guy is hearsay. I think I’ve actually seen him play just once.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Nov 18, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

This thought terrifies me as well.

I know he’s young and all, and the prospect of the decade. But his skill set might not translate that well to Safeco, no? He only had 17 HRs last year. Yes, he is supposed to improve, but he actually got significantly worse in 2010, compared to 2009.

Maybe AZ is trying to sell high, before he turns into another pretty-good-outfielder among a cast of 50 pretty-good-outfielders.

Or maybe I don’t know Upton’s true talent level…

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Nov 18, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Dave wrote a post on Upton's skillset in Safeco yesterday.

Short version, no Safeco wouldn’t help him but it wouldn’t kill him like other players.

by BrianL on Nov 18, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I'll have to check it out.

I haven’t spent much time on USSM lately.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Nov 18, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

What

is that countdown in the banner at the top of the page for? I run Adblock and all I can see is 72:44:54…

p

by pdb on Nov 18, 2010 9:15 AM PST reply actions  

If a cat p'ed on my computer, I'd kill it.

Last week, I meant to change this to say "World-class procrastinator," but I just now got around to it.

by thehemogoblin on Nov 19, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Absolut Bloody Hour

I dont know what that means. Something with Vodka.

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 18, 2010 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

So the Yankees are expected to sign Rafael DePaula

He was the one we were thought to be the frontrunners for earlier this year, right?

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 18, 2010 9:36 AM PST reply actions  

It was the Rangers, then us, then apparently the Yanks.

No one had been saying anything about him for months now.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 18, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Also he's 20 now or something.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 18, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope the Huskies win so Rahim Moore cries and quits football forever

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 18, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

The little things are what make life worth living

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 18, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm going to make a tortured attempt to pull together a few names from msb's intro.

I was surprised to see Doc Gooden and Benito Mussolini both mentioned above, because I have always thought that their career arcs seem somewhat similar. Here’s my ridiculous attempt to tie them together.

We all know the Gooden story – he was amazing early, as one of the best pitchers in the world in his early 20s, racking up accolades and legendary playoff appearances, only to have his career derailed well before what should have been his prime. According to BBRef, Gooden was worth 47.6 WAR in his career; a full 36 of those wins above replacement came before he turned 26. He still had a productive career, but his overall arc did not live up to the incredible start.

For a time, Mussolini was arguably the most influential politician in the world, is widely credited with creating fascism, and was looked up to by Hitler. He helped make Italy a major player on the world stage. However, after that early stardom, there was a sharp and surprising decline. Mussolini was quickly overshadowed by Hitler, became little more than Hitler’s puppet, and his Italy was bumbling and ineffective in World War II. Mussolini became mocked, overthrown, and was eventually killed while trying to escape and was hung upside-down at a gas station.

So, both Mussolini and Gooden began their careers with a bang, were viewed as stars early on, but instead of continuing to build from that start, they ultimately faded into a surprising level of irrelevance.

Oh, and of course, they clearly also have fascist authoritarianism in common.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 18, 2010 9:58 AM PST reply actions  

You could also say this...

Judi Dench was in Tea with Mussolini, she was also in Goldeneye with Pierce Brosnan, who was in the Matador with Greg Kinnear, who was in As Good as it Gets with Jack Nicholson, who was in A Few Good Men with.. Kevin Bacon!

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 18, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Protocol Question

A friend of mine from college who I haven’t talked too a whole lot in the past year or so works at a company that just posted a job that I am interested in applying for. He’s only been at this company for about 3 months. We haven’t worked together professionally and its been a number of years since we last had a class together.

Is it okay for me to email him and ask him to pass my resume along? Or would I be better off just applying normally?

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 18, 2010 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

As ridiculous as it sounds, I would use being Facebook friends as a litmus test

if you are/were close enough to be friends on Facebook, it’s OK to ask, but it’s also well within his rights to say he doesn’t feel comfortable doing that after being on the job for such a short amount of time

by seattlebruin on Nov 18, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Right understood

we are facebook friends/linked in contacts.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 18, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd say you should absolutely contact him.

Being in sporadic touch for a year isn’t such a big deal if you guys have been friends in the past. You’re not asking him to guarantee an interview or give you a leg up; you’re just passing on your resume. That should be well within the friend contract. Besides, depending on how eager they are to fill the spot, you may be doing him a favor.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 18, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I should also note

I’ve spoken with the hiring manager type at this place before for another job a year ago, I still have his contact number (albeit not email since he changed companies). Would it be better to just call him?

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 18, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

This is a good idea too. Probably the better idea.

If you take the initiative to call and show interest, its at least usually enough to get you an interview. Be bold!

by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 18, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

To clarify this

I wasn’t turned down for the job, the job simply ceased to exist.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 18, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I would suggest applying normally, but e-mailing him and saying you're applying and ask if you can use him as a reference

3 months is a short enough time that he may, or may not, be in any kind of place to pass a resume along. Asking him for a reference, though, opens the conversation for him to be like “hey, I can get you an interview” at best and “sorry man I’m just a peon” at worst.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Nov 18, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Apply first

then send him an email with your resume and say “Hey I just applied for this job, is there anything you can do to help?” At the very least he can put in a good word.

by pdb on Nov 18, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay I decided to apply normally

and I sent my friend a message asking if he knew anything about the jobs/what they might be looking for. I decided to just ask him about the job and company first before asking him to pass along my resume.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 18, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel bad adding this now, but ...

… depending on the company and whether they have referral bonuses, applying normally may cost your friend a chance at that bonus.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 18, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Right, I've only ever seen referral bonuses at big companies

this is a small studio, probably 20 people tops.

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by bluemax on Nov 18, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it's an unlikely scenario.

It’s just that I’ve had friends not go through me because they didn’t want to bother me or ask me for a favor, when a) I would have enthusiastically recommended them on their own merits b) they would have ultimately done me a favor.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 18, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Update

they emailed back, still remember me said I’m not a fit for what they’re looking for.

:(

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 18, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed, I actually wrote back and thanked them for the response.

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by bluemax on Nov 19, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@AlexandrMendoza Félix Hernández celebra con su familia el premio Cy Young. Segundo venezolano que consigue el premio.

MY SPANISH IS ROUGH BUT I THINK THIS IS GOOD

by BrianL on Nov 18, 2010 10:32 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

I have never taken a Spanish class but to me that looks like

‘Felix Hernandez celebrates with his family his first Cy Young. He’s the second Venezuelan to win.’

IF THAT’S ACCURATE THEN WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FELIX

by Eyeball Kid on Nov 18, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

As am I.

its ok teh hole world will b using txt speech b4 2 long ne way

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Nov 18, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Flag'd

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by Faux on Nov 18, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Vonnegut's stance was that anyone who knew how to use it wasn't actually a writer.

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by JY on Nov 18, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

No, that's a demi-colon

A semi-colon just does some unspecified amount of what a colon does

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

FELIX FELIX FELIX FELIX!!!!!!!

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by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 18, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

If this is the case,

both Cy Young winners this season were originally signed by Bob Engle.

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by JY on Nov 18, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Correct

I haven’t finished it yet anyway, so keep it to yourself

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Check the Wave (no spoilers, so no worries).

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 18, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Did you know that Treyarch is a bunch of liars?

Remember how they said that there was going to be a “dedicated co-op campaign”? Yeah, that’s a laugh.

by Coach Owens on Nov 18, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of voice actors in games

I recently watched the new trailer for Rockstar’s latest game, L.A. Noire. As soon as it started I realized that the main character looked and sounded incredibly familiar to me. As the trailer progressed, I realized that the main character’s voice and likeness are both attributed to Aaron Staton, a.k.a. Mad Men‘s Ken Cosgrove. They made the character look exactly like him and of course he’s lending his voice as well. I like seeing/hearing familiar voices in video games.

Does anybody else have notable characters adapted from real actors in games?

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Martin Sheen in Mass Effect 2

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by bluemax on Nov 18, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

How could I have forgotten him?

I know that Vin Diesel has lended himself to a few games, but in most cases he’s been playing a character from a movie that he was in already

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I think there's probably a bunch in GTA games as well

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by bluemax on Nov 18, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Both visual and audio representations though?

I certainly enjoy hearing “celebrity” voices in games, but I’m talking more about full recreations of the person.

As far as audio only, I really like how Bungie has celebrities come in and record minor radio chatter and minor speaking parts for random characters, in addition to having notable names doing other, more prominent roles

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I think

I mean I know they used voices, but I thought they made some people look like themselves.

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by bluemax on Nov 18, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Though Yvonne has her hair colored black instead of Blonde in Mass Effect 2.

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by joof on Nov 18, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Pictures! They all voiced the characters too.

Yvonne Strahivski in Mass Effect 2

Nathan Fillion in Halo ODST

Kristen Bell, Assassin’s Creed 2

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by joof on Nov 18, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm mad that I somehow forgot about each of these

Especially Fillion, since he looks very close to his ODST character

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I just read a preview article on this game!

Rockstar used motion-scanning technology for the game, so the reason why the characters look like real actors is because, well, they ARE real actors. It’s a pretty cool advancement and I hope more games start to use this technology.

Here’s a link to the article. They don’t go too much into the motion-scanning stuff, but the game itself sounds awesome.

by schismatix on Nov 18, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah LA Noire has gone from Vapor Ware to

ZOMG I NEED IT NOW.

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by bluemax on Nov 18, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm very, very interested in it

I’ll wait until it gets closer and I hear more about it before I get too hyped, but it’s definitely looking promising

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Without going into any details so as not to be a spoiler,

I thought the campaign was fun (although short).

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 18, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I was told this morning that I was likely mis-diagnosed with Celiac.

If this is true, my first meal will be Pizza Hut Chicken alfredo Pasta, with a Medium Pepperoni Pizza, a side of breadsticks, and a six pack of Guinness.

by BigR on Nov 18, 2010 12:09 PM PST reply actions  

What is Celiac again?

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 18, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Oof.

If they’re right, and you don’t have it, I’d be gorging myself too!

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 18, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

And Bayern should be releasing their first batches of Doppelbock and Face Plant soon.

WEEE!!!

I’m going to be the saddest guy ever if my doctor’s wrong, and the diagnosis was right.

by BigR on Nov 18, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Congrats!

But Pizza Hut? Treat yourself don’t punish yourself.

by Sec 108 on Nov 18, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I've been cooking for myself healthily almost every day for a year,

I miss greasy garbage food so, so much.
Pizza Hut was always my fiancee and mines guilty pleasure food.

by BigR on Nov 18, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough, as you were.

I have my guilty pleasures also so i understand.

by Sec 108 on Nov 18, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Congratulations, but don't overdo it--you might want to celebrate some without ODing.

Or you could spend longer than you’d like in the bathroom a few hours later. Greasy processed food will do a number on your system if your body isn’t used to it.

I am going to come into your house at night and rec up the place.

by HititHere on Nov 18, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Sound advice,

But I really doubt I’ll be able to hold myself back, and will likely pay the consequences.

by BigR on Nov 18, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

That news is almost as good as the Cy Young.

Just kidding man, hope to hell you get that meal.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 18, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

CONGRATULATIONS

GLUTEN AHOY

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by JY on Nov 18, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Not yet,

Gotta wait a couple weeks for the tests to come back from Mayo to confirm.
Going to be a long two weeks. Not to mention I interviewed for my dream job on Monday, and should be hearing about that right after Thanksgiving.

by BigR on Nov 18, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh man! Congratulations!

The very first thing I would do, were it me, would be to go to Great Harvest and buy a big fat loaf of country white bread right out of the oven. Pizza Hut is a solid choice for greasy garbage food!

by royalcurve on Nov 18, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

This is also a good idea.

My soon to be mother in law makes the most amazing braided bread ever, a loaf of that would be amazing.

by BigR on Nov 18, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I've often thought of that thread, where you were asking about alternatives since the beer was off the table

So if it’s not Celiac, then what was the problem? I understand completely if you mind my asking.

by Kermit. on Nov 18, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

No worries, I'm pretty open about my medical happenings.

I’ve got a pretty rare immunodeficiency called CVID. Basically, my body completely stopped making antibodies at some point in the last 3-4 years.
It’s a really vague, and new, diagnosis. Because of this, there’s a lot of variance between patients.

Anyways, the way they test for celiac is through a blood test where they look at antibody concentrations. I have no antibodies, so there is no way for them to completely diagnose me with it. Going Gluten free hasn’t completely helped me, and I really haven’t been experiencing the things that I’ve been reading I should be by being gluten free.

My immunologist has been connected with another immunologist that suggested I may have a different, side effect of the CVID that is effecting my stomach cells (another similar thing happened in my lungs leading to a different mis-diagnosis a few years back).

Way more information than you probably wanted, but there it is.
The bottom line is thank god for modern medicine, I likely wouldn’t be alive had I been born even thirty years earlier.

WOOO fried chicken and weenie wraps!

by BigR on Nov 18, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

.

"Obviously Felix’s numbers are very, very impressive," Halladay said on his conference call Tuesday. "But I think, ultimately, you look at how guys are able to win games. Sometimes the run support isn’t there, but you sometimes just find ways to win games. I think the guys that are winning and helping their teams deserve a strong look, regardless of how good Felix’s numbers are."

by msb on Nov 18, 2010 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

Other have already covered how little sense this makes, and how we shouldn't really take Halladay's opinion seriously.

But what really gets me is that quotes like this treat “numbers” in such a snide fashion. Oh, well his numbers were okay, I suppose, but he didn’t win – as if numbers are something completely divorced from the task of winning. Do none of these people understand that these numbers are our best way to understand what the player actually did on the field and how much that player helped their team win?

I doubt anybody would actually say “obviously Felix played better and did more for his team than any other pitcher this year, but I think ultimately you look at how guys are able to win games.” They wouldn’t say that because it’s much more difficult to criticize a player that way than to make fun of the concept of statistics. If you summarize everything Felix actually did on the field as simply “numbers” then you’re trying to abstract those contributions. It’s an abstraction that is intellectually dishonest – which isn’t surprising, but it is disappointing.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 18, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it's a pride thing.

They tend to like the shallower numbers because they don’t tell the player the stuff he doesn’t want to see.

by ToddK on Nov 18, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Wins are numbers too, ya dumbfuck

Every time you masturbate... God kills a kitten? Fuck kittens.

by Matt Erickson on Nov 18, 2010 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Conventional wisdom says that this represents a change in thinking

away from (some) traditional statistics like Wins. If I’m not mistaken, the BBWAA also votes on the Hall of Fame. Do you suppose that Felix winning the Cy Young offers any hope for the Hall of Fame candidacy of one Mr. Edgar Martinez?

Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Career .384 BA, .543 OBP for Rocky Diablos

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Nov 18, 2010 2:09 PM PST reply actions  

If this year's HOF vote indicates anything,

it’s that the writers are no more inclined to put a DH into the hall than they were before.

by ToddK on Nov 18, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

It was a good first vote.

But if he’d been anything other than a DH he would have been in this year.

by ToddK on Nov 18, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't understand how players gain votes over time.

Edgar’s playing career will be exactly the same when HOF voters decide to put him in during the next decade.

by yuniform on Nov 19, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't even think it's that

I think that the voters have some weird level of prestige that they use. Like, they’ll say “Player X is a HoF’er, but not first ballot so I’ll vote for him within the next 2 years.”

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

It's really stupid, that's for sure

It’s almost like the BBWAA writers all get together and decide that if a guy is not “first ballot” that they make sure he at least gets enough votes to stay on the list for a couple of years.

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

It's probably a combination of both.

There definitely are voters with the “Inner Circle” idea. Also, with the improvement of stats and new voters, people are viewing retired players differently than they did 5 or 10 years ago.

by Jed MC on Nov 19, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure how to explain Rice, other than Boston media love.

I guess someone has to be the worst player in the HOF and Henry Aaron the 24th hasn’t been born yet.

by Jed MC on Nov 19, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

TEH FEAR

Funny thing is up until maybe 5-6 years ago, the Boston media still didn’t care much for Jim Ed. Most of it was carryover from his playing days – he was a dick to the media and fans alike – but he was also viewed as somewhat one dimensional and overrated.

It wasn’t until nearly the end of his candidacy that this obnoxious revisionist groundswell started to happen, championed by the same people that lambasted him for years.

by ThomasG on Nov 19, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, the Ted Williams phenomenon.

“You overhyped lazy bum!”
“I quit”
“YOU WERE A TRUE RED SAWKS LEGEND!”

by marc w on Nov 19, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

On the true Red Sox Legend part...

Whenever I talk about Ted Williams, I refer to him as San Diego Padres Legend Ted Williams, just to annoy the Red Sox fans I know.

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by joof on Nov 19, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

How does Philly feel about Mike Schmidt these days?

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by JY on Nov 19, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope this turns green so that you can be an example to others.

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by JY on Nov 19, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice work, team.

Hardly a moment wasted.

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by JY on Nov 19, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

How many years does Edgar have to get in?

And do the same people vote year after year?

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 18, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think there is a certain number of years that it can go

I believe that, as long as you are getting a certain number of votes, you stay on the ballot

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope, twenty years.

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by JY on Nov 18, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

This isn't football.

Baseball players frequently live past 60. Jim Rice, who waited forever, was alive for his induction. Bert Blyleven will be alive for his next year.

by yuniform on Nov 18, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

It's 15.

And then it goes to the Veterans’ Committee.

Voters have to be BBWAA members for at least 10 years before they’re eligible to vote on the HOF.

Last week, I meant to change this to say "World-class procrastinator," but I just now got around to it.

by thehemogoblin on Nov 18, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

And it's every BBWAA member who meets the criteria who votes for the Hall.

Last week, I meant to change this to say "World-class procrastinator," but I just now got around to it.

by thehemogoblin on Nov 18, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Misphrasing or misreading on my part.

It can go to twenty years after they’ve retired but only the last fifteen would be voted on.

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by JY on Nov 18, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Different batch of writers vote for Hall of Fame.

The postseason awards have two writers from each town who vote while HOF voters are far more numerous and varied.

by Sec 108 on Nov 18, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Depending on your point of view, the most disgusting thing ever, the most brilliant thing ever, and/or both

it is a tallboy of alcoholic energy drink – three cups of coffee and six beers of alcohol in 23.5 fl. oz.

by seattlebruin on Nov 18, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Its like something out of Snow Crash!

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by bluemax on Nov 18, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

It is like having six Red Bull vodkas at once

P.S. a tip – don’t ever, ever, ever, ever drink 15 Red Bull vodkas at a poker table because you will never sleep again.

I did this from like 10 PM to 2 AM after waking up at 7 AM the day before, and was absolutely wired until 8 AM the next morning at which point I crashed as hard as I’ve ever crashed in my life

by seattlebruin on Nov 18, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I really wanted to shotgun one and subsequently go blind.

No thanks, I’ll stick to Irish coffee as my caffeine/liquor crossover.

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by JY on Nov 18, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be for the good of science.

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by JY on Nov 18, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm like 96% sure this would be amazing

the problem is that the other 4% is me thinking this would result in death and/or seizures and the uncomfortable questions about why a seemingly intelligent professional engineer shotgunned three cups of coffee, taurine, guyana, and six beers at the same time

by seattlebruin on Nov 18, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Drinking it all in one go.

Traditionally, you invert the can over your mouth and poke a hole in the bottom so that the entire beverage drains down your throat.

by Drew_D on Nov 19, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I've always known it as punching a hole in the side of the can, toward the bottom

Cover the hole with your thumb to prevent beer-loss and then as you move the can to your mouth you remove your thumb and pop the tab on top of the can and the entire beer will end up in your mouth

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

This is a ghastly idea!

Thinking about this makes me want to wrap myself in a shawl, sit in my rocking chair and do some Erik Bedard needlepoint. You kids.

by royalcurve on Nov 19, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Sometimes it is even done in the middle of the street

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 19, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Going on 12 year old girl.

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by joof on Nov 19, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Jacob is so much better.

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by joof on Nov 19, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I was just looking at the Twilight Barbie & Ken dolls.

well, actually I was looking for a basic Barbie for the Adopt A Family program, and the Twilight dolls were smack iin the middle. Jacob Doll has a tattoo.

by msb on Nov 19, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Edward looks a little more albino than he does sparkly.

Also hahahahahahaha Jacob has no shirt hahahahahahaha

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 19, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Poor Jacob doesn't even HAVE a shirt.

he has shoes and shorts and that is all. According to a review on Amazon, his shorts pop open when you move him about…

by msb on Nov 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

YOU'RE A MONSTER!

He was a decent player playing in a park that destroyed his skillset!

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by joof on Nov 19, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Two points:

1. We may in fact be the same person.
2. I can imagine your living room covered with massive, incredibly detailed works of Erik Bedard needlepoint – and I absolutely love the image.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 19, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm afraid I'd be better at latch hook than needlepoint.

After all, I made that Tweety and Sylvester latch hook rug when I was small. Still, you must come over for finger sandwiches and a prosecco!

by royalcurve on Nov 19, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

It's excellent for drinking games.

Where typically you give/take shots or drinks if you will. But sometimes the game calls for everyone to shotgun a beer.

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 19, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I recently played quarters at a friend's wedding and it was a lot of fun

Unfortunately they asked us to stop for some reason..

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 19, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

When I was in high school and college the point of drinking

was to get as drunk as possible as fast as possible because you didn’t know when the beer would run out. As an adult person the point of drinking is to sustain a nice buzz all night. I much prefer drinking like an adult person.

by pdb on Nov 19, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I doubt it'll last much longer.

You’re “drink as much as you can because you don’t know when the beer will run out” is very on point. But soon enough you can choose the level of beer so no need to drink 7 beers in an hour.

by Mariner John on Nov 19, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a time and place for either of these

I am not yet of the age where I exclusively do the former or the latter

by seattlebruin on Nov 19, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

There are nights when I drink to get drunk fast

but those nights now happen maybe once or twice a year, and typically only at bachelor parties or the like.

by pdb on Nov 19, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Somehow imagining you do it works for me.

But only you. You would manage to make shotgunning seem effortlessly sexy and appealing.

by royalcurve on Nov 19, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

AC on a dusty street shotgunning a drink:

He effortlessly throws it back, swallows the alcohol easily and shrugs it off—it’s refreshing, but in no way dulls the keen edge of his mind. He crumples the can easily in his off hand and discards it carelessly, his mind already returning to his steely resolve to kill zombies/race motorcycles/haul away refuse/track down the missing child.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 19, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm just imagining the effect on his music

Pre-chug, he’s playing a delightful Chinese tune
1 shotgun, and he’s sloppily playing blues-influenced bar rock
Another one, and he’s unconscious, but his body continues playing 3rd Eye Blind perfectly.

by marc w on Nov 19, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

See, this is the result of getting drunk through more appropriate pathways

than ‘shotgunning’ a ‘FourLoko’.

I would love a soul-punk band to go see. I would love that sober or drunk. Until that day, I will continue my drunk tradition of playing soul and punk records back to back.

by marc w on Nov 19, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

The correct way to shotgun a beer

is to poke a hole in the side so it lines up with the top opening, while holding the beer prone as to assuage spillage. The hole should be at least the size of a dime, but I prefer it a bit larger. With the can still sideways, place your mouth over the hole, and in one motion, turn the can upright and open the tab on top. The beer will flow out the hole you made, down into your gullet.

There’s a scene in The Sure Thing where John Cusack explains and demonstrates it, but that particular scene is not on YouTube so I suggest you just watch the whole movie; it’s a good one.

by RunningFool on Nov 19, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's how I always thought it was.

You explained it a bit better than I did above, but that’s they way I was taught. I did it once when I was 17 and it sucked because beer tastes terrible when you’re 17

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Shotgunning Ten Fidy would be a very intense experience.

There are a few other good types of beer in cans – 21st Amendment, Maui Brewing – but yeah, Oskar Blues would be the primary suspect.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 19, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Brew Free or Die?

I had some last night and also enjoyed it – it seemed like a strange combination of sweet and hoppy, but I really liked it. Also ready for tasting in the beer fridge – the Watermelon Wheat and their Black IPA.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 19, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a way to shotgun a bottle

You need a straw (typically you need to insert 2 straws together to make them long enough). Then put the straw in said bottle and plug the opening with your thumb. Turn the bottle upside down, remove thumb and start chugging.

The straw will let the air into the bottle and force the beer down your throat. Good times.

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 19, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

That is called the Whirlwind (at least to me).

One flexi-straw works perfectly for a 12-ounce bottle. You can just bend the straw over the edge of the rim.

by RunningFool on Nov 19, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Some friends of mine attached a bowl from a bong to the end of the straw

so that as the air drew into the beer it would light the bowl and after you finish the beer you get a nice big hit afterwards.

We tried to take a picture of it twice, but the picture mysteriously overexposed itself both times..

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 19, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd go with Old Chub, personally

But only because I’d rather shotgun a $3 can of beer than a $5 can of beer

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I tried it once.

The inside of my head looked like when the Millenium Falcon jumps to hyperspace.

Dawg! He put da team on his back!

by JAH on Nov 18, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Same here.

Even ignoring the fact that energy drinks make my insanely jittery, I drink to chill out, not to be wired and drunk.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 18, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Not me.

If you need energy drink+booze that bad, make your own.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 18, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Buzzfeed had a homemade recipe that was foul. If you need caffeine and booze, just have a vodka/Red Bull, or chase a caffeine pill with everclear.

by yuniform on Nov 18, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

That's what I usually do

We were discussing how retarded these kind of drinks are and I suggested that you should just go nuts with it and get fucked on energy shots and main-lining Everclear

by tootthekazoo on Nov 18, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely - if you're going to do it, just cut the BS and do it right.

I just don’t even see the appeal – I’d rather wrap myself a bit more tightly in my Snuggie, pour another butterscotch schnapps, and finish up the Matlock marathon. Somehow parenthood has turned me into a 70-year-old.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 18, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Those things have fucked me up the couple times I've used them

I mean, they work as advertised but I did not like what it did to me at all

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Can't say I am

That combination of booze/stimulants/volume is just bad news unless you weigh 200+pounds. Considering it’s flavored for the teen girl crowd, I’m not going to shed tears when it gets pulled from shelves.

by Drew_D on Nov 18, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

The drinks were stupid in the first place.

There is no reason to have something like that on the shelves. Nobody needs THAT much caffeine plus THAT much booze in one can.

But I guess the real issue here is the people that made them popular in the first place.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 18, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

This is true.

But when they outlaw stupid stuff I don’t get upset about, especially when it is something I can legally make at home for myself.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 18, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

So if 4Loko is so bad doesn't that mean drinking coffee while drunk in general is bad?

Because wow a lot of people combine the two in large amounts, and they’ll probably continue to do that with or without 4Loko on the shelves unless they do a better job of telling people they shouldn’t do it.

by OlSalty on Nov 18, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

BUT...IT'S IN ONE CAN!

Massachusetts just recently banned 4Loko. During a radio interview with some state rep or something that was instrumental in the ban, the host asked whether or not they’d also look to ban the sale of red bull and vodka together at liquor stores. The guy said no, that was different, because the act of combining two things together would impede serious abuse of either.

Our society is fucked. I’m going to live on the moon.

by ThomasG on Nov 18, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

The news release from the Four Loko makers on removing caffeine is fairly level-headed

and brings up Irish coffee. Of course, making/selling such a disgusting, potentially dangerous drink is questionable, but whatever.

by yuniform on Nov 18, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope they push their product to bars and create a fad for 4loko iced tea

This ban is stupid

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 18, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Some wine comes in juice boxes.

Not just Franzia-sized boxes, but Tree Top-sized boxes.

by yuniform on Nov 19, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Big House Red now comes in a box!

Big House Red is probably one of my favorite cheapish standby table wines. And now it comes in a four-bottle-sized box.

by pdb on Nov 19, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't find a link right now but I saw a product that was a flute glass (plastic) filled with wine

and had foil covering the top, similar to an applesauce cup. Thought that was a pretty nifty idea

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 19, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a great idea actually

for picnics and outdoor drinking and the like.

by pdb on Nov 19, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

They have canned wine. Like in a pop-can. But it is gross.

I would definately try these glasses if I ever see them

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 19, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I often have what my roommate and I call "the three courses" after a run:

1) Water
2) Chocolate millk
3) Beer

So yes I am interested in your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

by RunningFool on Nov 18, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Irish Coffee doesn't contain NEARLY the amount of stimulants that those drinks do.

That’s the issue people have with them. They have outrageous amounts of stimulants mixed with a high proof drink. This isn’t a rum and Jolt we’re talking about here.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 18, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Would buying a Jaeger bomb at a bar be illegal?

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by joof on Nov 18, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

No.

Also, specialty brews made with coffee and chocolate don’t fall under this ban either.

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 18, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope.

You can mix anything you want, they just can’t be sold already combined in massive quantities.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 18, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

You'd think that, but the times are a changing in what regards to frat boys.

First they came for my Halo, and no one spoke.

Next they came for my WoW and no one spoke.

When they come for my table tops, there will be nobody left to speak!

Dawg! He put da team on his back!

by JAH on Nov 19, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

They were around for video games before that.

Hopelessly confused as to why they could only sell back last year’s copy of Madden at the mall for ten bucks, if that.

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by JY on Nov 19, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

However if I drink coffee when I am drunk it is typically after having a few big beers, then I’ll buy an espresso and walk around before going for dinner. So it’s not like I am getting hammered and using coffee to prolong my drinking, which some people do and that’s just dumb.

by Aaron Campeau on Nov 19, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I fight a similar battle whenever I go winter camping with friends.

The popular perception is that drinking alcohol warms you up, but the truth is that it just makes you more susceptible to the cold and more likely not to realize it.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 19, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Both of these are true,

but a stiff drink on a cold day makes you feel warm, and what is wrong with that? As long as you’re not in danger of hypothermia or something, it’s not a big deal. When I go backpacking I’ll take a few swigs off the old whiskey bottle before hitting the sack to get that warm sensation.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, as long as you understand and don't misinterpret the signs.

There are few things finer than enjoying a drink while watching the moon rise over a snowfield. But if you do, you just have to remember that the warm flush is an illusion and that taking off your heavy jacket just because you now feel comfortable in a t-shirt is a pretty dangerous thing to do.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 19, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

It thins your blood and thus lowers your core temperature, while at the same time making you feel warmer than you are. It can get dangerous quick. I like seeing people standing outside of bars and smoking in the winter. They wore a coat to the bar but are outside in just a T-Shirt while it is 20 degrees and windy and they’re smoking away like it’s nothing

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Not me...

I know what you’re talking about, but I wear my coat even if I’m wasted. I know it’s cold out, and I don’t have much personal insulation.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I really want to start a petition to force everyone to wear helmets when you go outside your house.

You can legally buy powdered caffiene online and eat a shitload of it and die. You could buy gallons of water at 7-11 and drink them all and kill yourself, should we ban water too?

At some point people should just learn to think for themselves, but since it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen, HELMETS FOR EVERYONE!

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 18, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm buying out the remaining stock at the local liquor store.

Not because I like them – they taste like cough syrup and shit – but because three months from now, I’m selling them to college students for a tidy sum.

by ThomasG on Nov 18, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I bought one the other day to see what all the hype was about

They really tasted like kool-aid, so I can see how kids might like them. Just wasn’t for me. But the guy at the counter said that people are buying them up like they have the antidote in them. People are buying them by the case, just because of them being banned.

So, you better hope you find a well stocked mini-mart!

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 18, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

The impending ban is making them increasingly popular

It’s all anyone is drinking at my school for the next few weeks. As someone who has had way too much experience with them, I’m quite glad they’re leaving. Someone in my apartment thought it would be a good idea to have 15 people over for Edward 4loko Hands. Needless to say, most of the apartment did not survive the night.

by Fuckmikereilly on Nov 18, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

How did I not think of Edward 4loko Hands, brilliant!

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 18, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

So awesome.

Last time I saw someone do Edward40hands. They pissed them self while dry heaving.

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 18, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

If they were dry heaving they were doing it wrong

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 18, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh no people will just have to drink Jaegar bombs.

And/or Red Bull vodka and/or Irish coffee and/or whatever other combination.

by Mariner John on Nov 18, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

So, a copy of the first appearance of Batman sold for $437,000 today

Question: Is there anything you regret throwing away/leaving behind due to monetary or personal value?

by yuniform on Nov 18, 2010 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

I left my Super Nintendo with an ex who lives several time zones away.

She’s moved a couple times since then, but I’m still holding out hope that I’ll be able to play Mario Kart or Ken Griffey, Jr. Baseball someday. (I put hours into renaming all those players.)

by yuniform on Nov 18, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I did the same thing.

But a buddy of mine that still collected those things said most of them lost all their value anyway from reprints. Also, it’s not like I have any idea if I owned any that were worth anything.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 18, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Rares are valuable.

Commons and uncommons less so.

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by joof on Nov 19, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Force of Will is an uncommon out of Ice Age, and it is worth probably $50 now

It really depends on the card, and whether it is played in older tournament formats like type1, legacy (1.5), and extended.

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 19, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I threw away some really, REALLY valuable stamps when my grandmother died.

My mom and us kids were tasked with cleaning out her house so we could sell it. My instructions were pretty much to “throw anything away that looks like garbage” (Grandma was a bit of a hoarder). I found her prized stamp collection and tossed it. Mostly because I didn’t get how stamps could be worth anything, and also because they were shoved in a box with old half used Avon lipsticks.

Also my old Factory and Sarah record collection was forgotten in a basement when I moved to Oregon. That probably wasn’t worth so much money, but man I loved those records.

by royalcurve on Nov 19, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey Huskies. You're bad. Stop being bad.

Also, is it necessary for every sports broadcast from Seattle to cut to Pike Place Market at one point? Is Seattle exclusively there and the Space Needle and nothing else?

by Mariner John on Nov 18, 2010 5:38 PM PST reply actions  

This game is a fine display of quarterbacking

8 of 17 for 53 yards and 1 INT.

Truly the Pac 10 is the league of champions and passing.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 18, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Make that 2 INT's.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 18, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Well hey, 7-7 at half, not too bad so far.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 18, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

That game was ugly

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 19, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

It was ugly, but it was a Husky win and I'll take it.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The most meaningless of meaningless bowls!

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 19, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Still better than a loss.

It takes time to climb out of the cellar.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that would require Stanford and Oregon to make BCS games

and Arizona to lose out and USC to win out.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 19, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotta love the last few weeks of college football season

when everyone starts frantically determining apocalypse scenarios.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 19, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

I love the idea of acquiring Upton, but that’s simply too expensive.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 18, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

My answer to that would be,

HELL FUCKING NO. Thats three of our top four. Maybe three of three if you discount Saunders and Smoak as no longer prospects. Way, way too much.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 18, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he's right.

But I don’t think we should do it. Justin Upton is worth a fantastic prospect, and maybe even a great follow up prospect. He may even be worth that value, and if we had a better farm system or a realistic shot at the playoffs I’d probably do it. Prospects are still just prospects, and Justin Upton is real. But our team sucks way too fucking bad to make it worth increasing our odds of being way too fucking bad in the future.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 18, 2010 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

No.

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by joof on Nov 18, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

No fucking way.

Nope, nope, nope.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

What a horrible call.

He didn’t even touch him with his helmet. The Pac-10 refs are laughingly bad.

by Coach Owens on Nov 18, 2010 6:59 PM PST reply actions  

You can when you're already in the air when they start to slide.

I’ve seen roughing the passer called off plenty of times because the officials decided that the defender couldn’t stop. Plus they called it “leading with the helmet” which it obviously wasn’t.

by Coach Owens on Nov 18, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Ackley walked twice today in three plate appearances.

11/26 K/BB. That’s actually worse than I remember it being.

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by JY on Nov 18, 2010 9:16 PM PST reply actions  

I am sorry to notify everyone that the AFL is now over

except for the playoff game on Saturday.

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by JY on Nov 19, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

DAMMIT!!

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, coming up here we'll have Condor in Venezuela....

and…. I … don’t know. Nothing on the Ackley level though.

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by JY on Nov 19, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I love Condor, so that will be enough for me.

Come on Saunders, do something impressive…

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, a little known mercy rule.

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by JY on Nov 19, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

So why would you include Ackley in a package for Upton?

To me, the only advantage to Upton is power.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly, I wouldn't.

With Ackley, I see him as being the elite 2B of the American League if he can stick around. The earlier Pineda/Saunders/Aardsma suggestion I’d consider, but we’re lacking really elite level arms of Pineda’s ilk in the system, and in the short term barely have any midlevel arms, so it would be a tough sell.

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by JY on Nov 19, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

In my opinion,

Saunders and Aardsma can go (even though I love Saunders) along with anyone else in the minors. But you keep Smoak, Pineda, Ackley and Franklin. Those are my four untouchables.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

If you're not trading those guys, you aren't going to get much on the market.

Mind you, I don’t think that this is necessarily a bad move. I think that I’d rather see moves like Aardsma —> Near-ready prospects than those four + change —> One Really Good Player. I think we’re still in that mode where we’re stockpiling and have to bolster the core as much as we can.

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by JY on Nov 19, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

That's my thought process as well.

We need depth, not just one good guy. The whole point in hiring Z was to rebuild the farm system. I realize that Triunfel/Aardsma/Lueke (just throwing names out there) won’t get you much, but look how the Braves got Uggla. Maybe we can get something without giving up our top prospects.

Also, I believe you never trade your top prospects unless they are completely blocked by an All-Star in his prime, or you’re making a legitimate run at the WS.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Triunfel's stock is pretty low right now.

As I said in the BP fanshot, the only thing he’s proven in the four years he’s been around in the org is that he can go out there, take the field, and be younger than anyone else around him. That wears thin after a while. I recognize that last year he screwed up his leg and lost the season, but Jose Lopez had proven way more at the same point in both of their careers.

If it’s me, I take a shot on him on the 40-man this winter because he needs to be protected and then give him 2011 to prove that he deserves to be there.

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by JY on Nov 19, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Like I said, I was just throwing names out there.

To be honest, it took me a minute to remember Triunfel’s name, since it’s been so long since he did anything impressive. I do think he is young enough that you still throw him on the 40 man, but I don’t think he is the next big thing at this point.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm done with Triunfel breaking my heart and am preparing for Pimentel to do it...

only because Morban is injured again :(

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by JY on Nov 19, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Franklin made me break up with Triunfel.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

He's sooooo good.

Seriously, after all those years coming up with random excuses for why teenagers can’t hit in the MWL and why they might be better than it looks like they are, Franklin. No excuses need be made.

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by JY on Nov 19, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Still issues with his defense though (apparently)?

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Some, but nothing that can't be fixed.

He was reportedly getting better towards the end of the season, and the main issues with him were things like ranging to his right and positioning.

Outside observers were making a bit much of the timeshare arrangement with Noriega.

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by JY on Nov 19, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

That's good to hear.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

The way I look at it, Zduriencik has a bit of a leash to endure a bad season or two because he's sold the higher-ups on a ground-up, youth-centric rebuild.

This is pure conjecture, but based on what we’ve heard from all parties I think that’s fair to say.

If you trade multiple top prospects for an impact player, it would seem to me that the bosses might want the timeline for contention to be bumped up a bit. Given all the shit we’ve gone through, I’m desperate for a sustained winner. And I’m willing to wait and be conservative in order to get that.

by Aaron Campeau on Nov 19, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions   5 recs

AMEN.

I want to reload from the ground up. I don’t care if it is a long term plan. I’d rather watch young kids learn and struggle than watch a band-aided team win 81 games.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

For me, it's all about the price tag.

If the price tag is Saunders, Aardsma, and any two or more of Ackley/Pineda/Smoak/Franklin, then this deal would qualify as gutting the farm system and would set back the franchise’s long-term future.

But if the price tag is Saunders, Aardsma, and any one of Pineda/Smoak/Franklin (not Ackley), then I’d probably do it. I wouldn’t do it for an older player, but I would for Upton because he isn’t a band-aid – he’s a young foundational player in his own right, a top prospect who has thrived in the majors. He’s the kind of player that we can build a sustained winner around, and in this scenario we would retain enough young farm talent to help build that team.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 19, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Aren't there some injury concerns about him,

as well as a high strike out rate, and questions about his work ethic (I may be thinking of the other Upton here, or even Hanley Ramirez)?

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

There are at least some concerns about his non-throwing arm.

But you have to look at those things in the context of Upton’s overall package – it helps clarify what a fair price would be, rather than invalidate the idea of a deal at all. After all, all of the potential players to be included on our side have some pretty major questions as well.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 19, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Not in my brain.

All of our prospects are perfect, or next year will be the year they put it all together!

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I prefer my method.

Short attention span means no heartache. Get swept up in the season. A shiny new toy will replace the memory of your broken old one.

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by JY on Nov 19, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

My man-crushes vary from season to season.

But if you ask me about Tui or Triunfel, my heart wants to say that they could still have it all “click” and be something great.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

That's kinda where I am with it

I’d have a hard time giving up 2 of our “Big 3” to make this deal, but Upton is really fucking good and I would love to have him on this team through 2015 or whatever he’s signed for. If we could find a way to retain two of our three guys then I would be ok with a deal for him. As I’ve said, I don’t envy Jack Z having* to make this decision

*Assuming that this decision is actually being made

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Won't Upton get expensive pretty soon through arbitration though?

Since he already has service time?

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, huh....

He’s so young, I forgot he was already signed long-term.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I believe they signed him out of his arbitration

It was a good deal for both sides. I’m not concerned about the money really, because our payroll will open up pretty substantially after this season I believe so he won’t really tie up too much of our available money over the next couple of years

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Also Justin Upton has Ken Griffey Jr. in his prime potential with a 3 win downside.

He is legitimately one of the best players to have on any team in baseball, with arguably the most potential at only a mild risk. All the names that get thrown out as possibly trades are probably worth it. The only reason we can’t make those trades are because we have a shitty farm system if we did, with a team not ready to compete even after said trade.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 19, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

That's my concern.

How do we fill the holes and 2nd, 1st, SP and all of that if we trade away the best prospects? No point in having Upton if he’s the only good piece on the team for the next five years.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, we still don't necessarily know what it will take to get him.

But yeah, that’s why we can’t get rid of our three top prospects – this team is unlikely to survive without at least one of them performing well at a low cost. Other teams in better positions that can afford a similar package, however, should probably go for it.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 19, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I could agree with that.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

It really all depends on who we have to give up for him

Again, this isn’t a deal to bring in a guy to “win now,” this is a chance to get a very, very good player that will be under contract for 5 years, from age 23 to 27, where he should get better as a player

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Proposed Diamondbacks trade:

Gutierrez, Pineda, Aardsma for Upton.

I think that might work. Two cheap established MLers and a top five pitching prospect.

by Graham MacAree on Nov 19, 2010 7:43 AM PST reply actions  

That would show a lot of unearned faith in Saunders.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 19, 2010 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Not really

The team is still non-competitive next year

by Graham MacAree on Nov 19, 2010 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I HATE the idea of trading Pineda. It just sucks anticipating a prospect so much then not getting to watch him play.

With a level head though, that’d probably make sense. Doesn’t leave us with holes we couldn’t patch within the system or with cheap free agents.

I’m just not as excited about Upton as I should be either. He’s obviously a talented player, I guess I’m just gun shy about flipping prospects so close to the majors, especially with the team having a year to let them play.

by BigR on Nov 19, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Pineda is the most replaceable of our Ackley/Smoak/Pineda trio

The draft next year is full of top pitching prospects and he has a higher bust potential than the other two just from virtue of being a pitcher.

by Graham MacAree on Nov 19, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Looking at it rationally, this wouldn't be a bad deal

I would have to get over the fact that we’d be trading Gootch away, but I’d deal with it because he isn’t much more than an excellent defensive player with a near-average bat

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Eh, at this point I don't really care one way or the other

If we get him I don’t want it to be a stupid deal, that’s all. We’re not contending this year anyway so he’s a move for the future.

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

But, But..... Guti.............=(

This would make me sad.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 19, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't think this would get it done, but I would do it.

The problem is that the Ackley, Pineda and Franklin offer mentioned above is probably what he’s worth on the trade market I would think, and we’re just not in a position to do that trade. I’ve also soured on Guti a bit over the past year despite his value, so that trade would be pretty easy to swallow.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 19, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Gutierrez had 2.3 fWAR, but UZR only gave him +7. TZ had him at +15, DRS at +14, and Fan Scouting at +11. He had 3.4 rWAR.

I think it’s easy to lose sight of just how valuable he was this year and how he’s living up to his contract even if he keeps having years like 2010.

by Decatur on Nov 19, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Times have changed.

Although some things stay the same.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 19, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You earned yourself a retro-rec.

Very nice.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 19, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I recognize his value.

But I get frustrated when I watch a player appear to not be learning. In addition, the older he gets the more likely his defense will fade, and then we’re left with nothing. I’m not saying he’s not valuable – he absolutely is – but I wouldn’t be as upset if he were gone as I would have been last year

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 19, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to talk about this here but would have expected it to have been brought up already

I like how if you score in the right-field endzone you stand a good chance of running headlong into a brick wall since it is only 1 foot beyond the back of the zone

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the best part is that they had a coin toss this week to determine which bench each team gets

And then they decided that they would switch benches at halftime. What a clusterfuck. I almost think that whoever decided that Wrigley would have enough room for football deserves to be fired

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha

You intercept the ball and run it into the west endzone anyway. I love it. It’s like half-court basketball

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Didn't they play football there decades ago?

Also the Yankees stadium set up is even more abhorrent.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 19, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think the Bears used to play games there

(That’s what I heard on Slate’s sports podcast, anyway.)

by yuniform on Nov 19, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Aww, this also means that field goal kicks won't go into the stands.

They’re only using the one set of uprights, because they couldn’t put a net behind the other one.

by yuniform on Nov 19, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Is Slate's sports podcast any good?

I listen to their Culture Gabfest and it’s alternately good and oh-my-god-you’re-a-bunch-of-overeducated-white-people-please-stop-talking annoying.

by pdb on Nov 19, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I love it and listen to it every Monday when it's released.

Stefan Fatsis is one of my favorite sports writers and I love Mike Pesca’s sense of humor. Pesca is also a wonderful sports reporter for NPR. (Screw you, Tom Goldman.) Josh Levin is okay, and a typical contrarian Slate writer.

by yuniform on Nov 19, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Over/under on career ending injuries?

I say 3.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 19, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Uh, I'd take the under.

Such injuries would come from running into the brick wall, right? With the way the game will be played (with the offense not going to the short end zone) I don’t see this happening. Unless Zook really gets his team fired up and stupid.

by yuniform on Nov 19, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

It was a joke

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 19, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I imagine the speed of the game has changed a lot since then

especially in terms of vertical passing, which seems like it would be the most likely candidate to see a wideout go sprinting through that wall

by seattlebruin on Nov 19, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Shit......

Still a neat event though.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I just can't believe they got this far with it before they figured out it wasn't going to work.

Isn’t the first thing you do measuring the field and figuring out if the dimensions will work?

Also, I seem to remember there being plenty of room at Safeco for football, why is Wrigley so tight? Is the foul territory that small, or are the entire dimensions of the park that small?

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

No kidding

Lose this tournament and your MLB career will be sidelined for 2 years so you can join the military! That’s incentive to win all by itself

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

So, waiting in line at Bartells I saw this new cinnamon candy.

Because nothing says sweet candy deliciousness like a shot gun shell.

by msb on Nov 19, 2010 9:28 AM PST reply actions  

I hope we keep Kalian Sams forever.

Note that he was 24 and playing in low A or rookie ball. Is this just a Dutch skill set of never being able to not strike out a bunch? A product of not having very many good pitchers in Honkbal?

by Mariner John on Nov 19, 2010 12:28 PM PST reply actions  

HONKBAL!

I can’t think of all that many pitchers that come over. There’s Rick Vandenhurk, Loek Van Mil, and Ramon Romeijn who came over, but the archetypal Dutch player for me is some outfielder who learned to swing by imitating a windmill.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 19, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

They have minor leaguers.

They just don’t have them organized by places of birth in the same way that they do the MLB guys.

For this kind of thing, I go to The Baseball Cube. That seems to have a lot more names.

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by JY on Nov 19, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

That would hurt so bad.

Seriously, his eyes would be scorched.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 19, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

All I can think is holy shit that dude votes/will vote.

Although he might not last that long.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 19, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

He might not be able to see the ballot that well after this.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 19, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that's a can of Axe

Which I’m sure is just as surprising to you all as it was to me

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Some times I think guys use a can a day.

When I can tell you are coming by the insects running in fear. You have too much.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 19, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

But people keep buying it for them for X-mas and birthdays.

It’s like how grandparents and aunt and uncles gave me Old Spice when I was a kid. What am I supposed to do with 5 gallons of “Old Spice Fresh Lime”?

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I said "thank you"

then poured it down the sink the next day. The bathroom reeked of the stuff for days.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Corona and Old Spice Lime!

Duh!

Last week, I meant to change this to say "World-class procrastinator," but I just now got around to it.

by thehemogoblin on Nov 19, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Great, my grandpa (who is in AA) was giving me condiments for beer?

My world has turned upside down…

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

And how's the eyesight afterward?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 19, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Fine

Was missing part of my eyebrow and some of my hair.

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 19, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

WHY?

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, we've all made mistakes like that.

But that isn’t the same as purposely aiming a flamethrower at your face.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, the old homemade explosive.

We used to make things post 4th of July when fireworks were discounted at the reservation.

by Jed MC on Nov 19, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

There is just so much to be said

Police alerted to ‘superheroes’ patrolling Seattle
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/430430_super19.html

“Police got the license plate and found those masked characters drove a Kia Fate registered to one of the character’s godmothers, department staff said. She told police her godson goes around doing good deeds.”

“Officers have learned the true identity of Phoenix — a 22-year-old man whose costume includes a black cape, black fedora, blue tights, white belt and mask. Police say he’s often driven by a young woman not in costume.

Officers say she usually doesn’t get out of the car, instead letting the “superhero” do his thing."

by Eyebrows on Nov 19, 2010 1:59 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

He also wears a "ballistic cup".

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know what to make of this.

Okay, cool you want to be a hero and all and wear your underware over your pants.

But for cryin out loud, if you manage to actually stop someone, do the right thing and let the cops take over. A section of that article talks about how one ‘superhero’ fought off some guy who was armed with a golf club, I think, then when the cops came they ended up letting the guy go because the ‘superhero’ didn’t want to press charges and reveal his identity.

So he accomplished nothing.

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 19, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

The whole thing is odd to me,

but that portion really did make me go, huh?? What’s the point of “fighting crime” if in the end you refuse to take the step of pressing charges? And why have the costumes? You can be a community watch group without a cape. Just get t-shirts or coats or something.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I am too as long as they come through as witnesses and help prosecute the criminals.

Otherwise, what is the point

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 19, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I tell you though, if one of them jumps out of the bushes at me,

they’re going to get their ballistic cup tested.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

sb:

LLemmies?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 19, 2010 3:01 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Or shall we just assume you spent last night in line for Harry Potter?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 19, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Congratulations to him then, I think?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 19, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I can vouch for the CoD part.

I was present for that, although I’m not sure you can call what I did “playing”.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Repetetive dying?

Last week, I meant to change this to say "World-class procrastinator," but I just now got around to it.

by thehemogoblin on Nov 19, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps.

Or “walking into bullets”, “running in hot lead rain”, “adding A/C to my skull”.. Numerous things would work. Of course I’m only level 8 or something, so I still don’t have any decent weapons.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I don't even have that yet I don't think.

I didn’t check all my unlocks before I shut down last night. I was playing with the Enfield trying to get a contract. Those are an interesting feature, although I still don’t exactly get the point of them.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I stand by my above comment

and it turns out that I was right, going to a rock show at 11 PM on a worknight would have had disastrous consequences

by seattlebruin on Nov 19, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I spent the last 15 minutes talking to my dog and the fucker didn't so much as say one word back.

Anyone else have a rude pet that doesn’t participate in the conversation?

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 19, 2010 3:50 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I'm with you.

My cats never shut up. I have one that howls in the morning, and one that howls at night.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you ever stop to think that maybe he is deaf?

You’re a real asshole for not confirming that before you start talking all this shit

by tootthekazoo on Nov 19, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

My cat talks to me all the time.

She’s also kind of a bitch, and did this to me when I was home last.

Last week, I meant to change this to say "World-class procrastinator," but I just now got around to it.

by thehemogoblin on Nov 19, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

It took me a long time of talking to my cat before she started to talk back.

Even then, it’s more of a squeak than anything else. She prefers to make like she might speak to indicate she wants something, but often says little.

Now my mother’s cat, which used to be mine…. he won’t shut up and has one of the ugliest meows I’ve ever heard.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 19, 2010 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

One of my scotties is extremely vocal

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 19, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

So I had a dream last night about LL

Someone made an in depth FanPost discussing how much they love this site and Sabermetrics before using nothing but stats like ERA and BA to make projections for the team. Then the vast majority of the dream was spent coming up with a condescending numbered list of all of the things wrong with using those statistics and that trying to fit in by agreeing with the website only to disagree with the entire purpose of this site should be discouraged.

The list was at something like 6 or 7, and I was ready to click post, before my alarm went off and I woke up, and the first thought I had was that I had to rush to the computer to finish the list so that I could see if I get any recs on it after I go back to sleep. Then I got up and remembered it wasn’t real and went back to bed a little pissed off.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 19, 2010 4:20 PM PST reply actions   3 recs

40 Man Update!
OF Johermyn Chávez

· RHP Maikel Cleto

· LHP César Jiménez

· INF Alex Liddi

· RHP Josh Lueke

· RHP Yoervis Medina

· OF Carlos Peguero

· RHP Michael Pineda

· LHP Mauricio Robles

· RHP Tom Wilhelmsen

You got slurved!

by Slurvey on Nov 19, 2010 4:51 PM PST reply actions  

That's less than 40 men.

I also see that Triunfel isn’t listed.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Who was it we took once, Ugeto I think?

He had no right being on the 25 either.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I do not remember.

But there is no reason to protect any player that is guaranteed to fail on the big league level. It would just be wasting a 40 man spot.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 19, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

He's a fringe top 10 prospect who currently sucks.

And no, that’s not true, because they would be wasting a year of development on a currently shitty player just to keep him, essentially guaranteeing he becomes shitty and worthless.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 19, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Essentially he would be spending 1 year NOT playing on a team that could use the roster spot.

So he’d be one year older and have sat out from baseball for a year on the bench of the MLB team.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 19, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Acutally...
JonPBNW Jon Shields
I was under that impression coming in RT @ChrisCrawfordPI BTW, Triunfel being eligible is wrong. He’s one year away.

You got slurved!

by Slurvey on Nov 19, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Regardless, the point still stands! =D

No reason to protect anyone that won’t be taken for the reasons stated above.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 19, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

That's what we did to Ugeto.

I’m not saying it’s a smart move, or even that it will happen. But it is possible. Especially for a bottom feeding team that might actually give him some playing time.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't remember Ugeto at all, so I can't comment on him

But Triunfel has been terrible in the minors and can’t field for shit. I don’t think any team could get him playing time – he would have like a .001 wOBA – and again there is also the mention of one less year of service time too, drastically decreasing his value in future years since he’d be under team control for less, terrible, take up a roster spot and not get any experience.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 19, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugueto could defend.

Triunfel can’t.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 19, 2010 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Doesn't look like anything surprising there. And yay Lueke.

Last week, I meant to change this to say "World-class procrastinator," but I just now got around to it.

by thehemogoblin on Nov 19, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Except no Triunfel. I've been outfoxed by Thingray.

Last week, I meant to change this to say "World-class procrastinator," but I just now got around to it.

by thehemogoblin on Nov 19, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

And that means we only have one open 40-man spot now, correct?

Last week, I meant to change this to say "World-class procrastinator," but I just now got around to it.

by thehemogoblin on Nov 19, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yessir yay Lueke.

Hopefully this means they will evaluate him as a pitcher from now on, and not a PR issue.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

It's about damn time.

"That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch. "

by the other side on Nov 19, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

You mean by rule? Or someone was just saying that...

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 19, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe I misunderstood

But I thought he would be eligible to be picked up by another team for the rule-5 thingey if we didn’t add him.

I never understood how this side of baseball works.

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 19, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you mean that he could have been taken on rule 5 for nothing.

So putting him on the 40 man ensures we can still trade him, in which case you are correct.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 19, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, thanks.

So my point is that he still could be a PR issue for the club. But hopefully not.

Wins are for winners and stats are for losers, period.

by d0nkey on Nov 19, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I would like for the team to either trade him, cut him, or call him up to the Majors

it’s as unfair to Lueke as anyone else to be stuck in an organization where for political reasons, he cannot play baseball at the highest level

by seattlebruin on Nov 19, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess Wilhelmsen was required

Still not sure how, but fine. I guess it’s been a long time since he was drafted.

Medina…interesting.

by marc w on Nov 19, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Has SBN been killing Firefox for people lately?

Ever since an FF update went out last week I’ve had all sorts of stability issues.

by BrianL on Nov 19, 2010 6:07 PM PST reply actions  

STRIKEOUT D:

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 20, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Tommy Lasorda time.

He really wanted to beat the Cubans.

by BrianL on Nov 20, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Pedroia.

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."

by joof on Nov 20, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, duh.

I thought BrianL was referring to a former poster who used to annoy the crap out of everyone… Thanks.

by Joe Metro on Nov 21, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

The highest Canadian-born player drafted?

They are pretty loose with the laws up there, so this is plausible

by tootthekazoo on Nov 20, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I wanted to see Ackley again :(

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 20, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

So that MVP for the NL could be a tough choice.

Votto was the best but he was only worth .1 more win than Pujols who, in turn, was worth .1 more win than Ryan Zimmerman.

by Coach Owens on Nov 20, 2010 1:04 PM PST reply actions  

Interesting note from Conor this afternoon...
Just realized the #Mariners scout that signed Supp. 1st round RHP Taijuan Walker signed 3B Mike Moustakas & LHP John Lamb for the #Royals

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by JY on Nov 20, 2010 4:32 PM PST reply actions  

Does this mean that Walker becomes a top 10 prospect in a year or 2?

…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell

by Marinerfanjake on Nov 20, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Wouldn't that be nice?

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by JY on Nov 20, 2010 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Just don't give that poor boy an atlas.

He’s not going to know what to do with his name.

I sometimes find myself engaged in combat with hobos.

by kevin_ess on Nov 20, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Has it been a month already?

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by JY on Nov 21, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope.

They’ll have until around Dec 8th or so to keep negotiating. Talks may have broken down, but this is far from over.

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by JY on Nov 21, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

It sounds like some bullshit to me.

But if it isn’t, bwahahaha A’s.

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by JY on Nov 21, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

They don't lose anything though right?

One could argue that overbidding the posting fee is a strategic move to get the player away from division rivals.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 21, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Just did a little bit of research on it...

from the looks of it, there’s no system in place to punish teams that submit high bids with little intention of signing the player. However, players can be posted in consecutive years and there have been instances in the past of a player being posted in November/December and then again in January. Though if Iwakuma is talking about returning to Rakuten at the fanfest, I doubt that he’ll try to go that route.

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by JY on Nov 21, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

So basically, it's possible that when Oakland heard the Mariners and Texas were interested

they put up the huge posting fee to block their efforts?

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 21, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be a dick move, but it's possible.

If the team can’t agree to terms with the player, the posting fee is refunded and the rights revert to the original team. The Red Sox were accused of bidding on Matsuzaka the way they did just to fuck with the Yankees, particularly when it didn’t look like they were going to come to terms.

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by JY on Nov 21, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think that it would necessarily lead to a bad relationship.

For one thing, how often is the same team going to have the winning bid for a Japanese player? And how many players get posted each year? We have two so far, maybe three depending on what the Chunichi Dragons do with Chen Weiyin, but that’s pretty unheard of.

In addition, the Japanese club would have to have reasonable suspicions that the team was only bidding to block and not for any other reason. And that the non-signing was directly the fault of the MLB club and not due to some demand on the player’s part that couldn’t easily be fulfilled.

This particular case is going to be made all the more weird because of the relationship Rakuten has with the Athletics, exchanging coaches and trading methods and all that. The camp that was shouting about conspiracy as soon as Oakland won might not have as much of a leg to stand on right now, unless the two teams were collaborating to keep Iwakuma around and not let an AL West rival get him, but even that line of thinking has some serious flaws in it.

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by JY on Nov 22, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

And besides, it's business

If they actually did make the posting strictly to cock-block a different team(s) then I don’t see how that could create a sour relationship

by tootthekazoo on Nov 22, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

It's one of the frustrating things about the field.

Too much bullshit, not enough calling of said bullshit because those in charge perpetuate it.

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by JY on Nov 21, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Truth.

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by JY on Nov 21, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Excuse to paste this!


Trick or Treat!

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 21, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Tasteful!

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by JY on Nov 21, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

But not at all functional.

I mean the candy would drop right out.

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by JY on Nov 21, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Skullfucking?

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by JY on Nov 21, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That's one of the reasons I switched to getting my history degree.

It might have been the faculty in these schools, but the history department seemed to want a lot more elegence in your papers (ie, being verbose != quality) and surprisingly enjoyed when you injected a fair amount of sardony into your analysis.

Dawg! He put da team on his back!

by JAH on Nov 21, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Whereas in the English dept...

Verbose can = perceived quality or you get someone who knocks your papers down a grade level because you’re breaking rules of English grammar which actually apply only to Latin and have nothing to do with English whatsoever. I’ve dealt with far more of the latter. They’re easier to blow off though.

Humor tends to go over differently. Sometimes I’ve chosen certain thematic constraints for a work, so my Decameron assignment was littered with AC/DC references. Puns are a subject for which I’ve been given a talking to a number of times.

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by JY on Nov 21, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I might need to read this.

I’ve only read a couple of the Decameron, but I can already think of ways you could fit some ACDC in there.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 21, 2010 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously, dude, that's fucking genius.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 21, 2010 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

It was an analysis of a story where a couple of nobles were competing over who could throw the best party.

Naturally, I used it as an opportunity to quote “Big Balls” gratuitously until the paper was just a three-page dick joke.

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by JY on Nov 22, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

This seems perfectly legitimate to me.

Bon Scott is a legend and your prof should thank you for bringing his illustrious quotes to your work.

by ToddK on Nov 22, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Ahahahahahaahahahahelimanningahahahahahahahahaah

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 21, 2010 9:21 PM PST reply actions  

Hell yes, I believe it.

The extra quarter just tops the whole thing off perfectly.

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by JY on Nov 22, 2010 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Justice or tragedy?

A friend of mine – a younger international student – had dents in her car. One day she was leaving work and these men walked up and noticed her dents and said they could fix them pretty easily, and that they had most of the tools in their car. She decided that it was a good deal, so she gave them 100 bucks up front with the remaining 100 due when they finished. They slathered some black crap on it and told her that they would be back the next day to get it off and fix the dent.

I saw her that evening and told her they were not coming back. She didn’t believe me but of course they didn’t come back. I remember my dad did something like this too when I was younger, where these men told him they could fix his dents for a similar amount of money. They poked some holes in the car, never came back. I am having a hard time deciding if I should feel bad that someone I know got scammed or if it’s sort of justice for trying to go the cheap, sketchy route. Thoughts?

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Nov 21, 2010 10:18 PM PST reply actions  

If it was a US student, I wouldn't feel bad.

But if she isn’t used to the scams here, who can really blame her for getting suckered?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Nov 21, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely hard to blame her since she probably couldn't detect the scam

I mean it’s still sketchy as hell, but I’ll give her a pass since she is from a different country

by tootthekazoo on Nov 22, 2010 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely

Hopefully they didn’t hurt it any so that she can have it properly repaired at some point without too much trouble

by tootthekazoo on Nov 22, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Scamming happens to all kinds.

It’s a recurring thing for people moving to NYC to find this great, reasonably priced apartment where the owner wants cash only for the deposit and first month’s rent. As soon as the would-be renter leaves, the “apartment” is gone.

I’ve seen this happen to all kinds of people who ought to know better.

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by JY on Nov 22, 2010 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

As somebody that writes repair estimates for a living

DO NOT ALLOW SOMEBODY TO WORK ON YOUR CAR LIKE THIS. They always, ALWAYS, cause more harm than good to the car and make it cost substantially more money to properly fix it. Dents are not a problem, they don’t hurt anything on the car. If you can’t afford to have them fixed properly then don’t let somebody half-ass it for you. People will bring me their cars and I can see that somebody has tried to push the dent back out and even that will make it more expensive to repair. Let a professional fix your car, not some random dude in a parking lot.

by tootthekazoo on Nov 22, 2010 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I nearly got scammed on one of these, I think.

My old car had a few paint scrapes on the side and some fellows came by offering to fix them. I declined. They lowered the price. I again declined.

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by JY on Nov 22, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Good man

Seriously, dents and scrapes are fine. If the car is newer than about 20 years old then any rust you see will be strictly at the surface level and generally won’t even have an effect on the surrounding paint. I’ve seen people bring in cars that were hacked together by people in parking lots and found that the “repairer” used fucking VASELINE to fill in a dent and then sprayed primer over the top of it

by tootthekazoo on Nov 22, 2010 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Vaseline?

That’s whole different kind of dumb. After a certain point I still feel bad but it gets harder to feel sorry.

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by JY on Nov 22, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I think part of the problem is that people think that repairing a dent is easy

Most people that fall for this scam have probably gone and gotten an estimate, saw that it would be like $800 for a “small” dent, and choose not to repair it. Then some nice guy comes along in a parking lot and offers to fix it for $100 because “if you don’t fix it then your entire car will dissolve into a pile of rust!!!!!” and Mickey-Mouses your car and then runs off with your cash

by tootthekazoo on Nov 22, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Tragedy.

Come on, young girl not familiar with the customs of this nation? She’s out $100, her car is worse off for it, and now her trust in strangers is broken. Tragic.

by Joe Metro on Nov 22, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

It's snowing!

ABANDON YOUR CARS ON THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY!

by BrianL on Nov 22, 2010 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Generally that's all I need around here

Stupid economy though has been making people pocket the insurance money and leave the dents on their cars. I need skid-outs here that damage headlights and suspensions so that people have to get the repairs done

by tootthekazoo on Nov 22, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

This 40 some odd degree weather in LA feels too cold

I’m gonna die on Thursday.

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by bluemax on Nov 22, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

The weather looks like rain and highs in the low-40s for the holiday weekend.

No snow though.

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by JY on Nov 22, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I can handle rain

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by bluemax on Nov 22, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

SNOWPOCALYPSE!!!!!!11!!!1!

It took me more than an hour to cover 13 miles on I-5 this morning. Yes, it was snowing – but there was no accumulation, no ice, and it wasn’t at all slick. Come on, people. I may stay home tomorrow even if it’s not dangerous to drive, simply because I’d get more done at home than spend hours in the car.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 22, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

My favorite part is when people drive as slow as possible up hills in the hopes of preserving traction

and then slowly slide back down.

Working delivery in that kind of weather was always awesome.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 22, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I like seeing people put chains on their front tires on a car that specifically cautions against using chains

Because the car has larger (16-17") wheels and using chains will cause the chains to beat the shit out of the fender while you’re driving

by tootthekazoo on Nov 22, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I almost did that once!

then I realized that it was more because my brain was frozen than anything else and sheepishly fixed it

by seattlebruin on Nov 22, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm looking forward to that trend switching around.

More people are inclined to think of front-wheel drive as the default, but rear-wheel-drive is on an upswing – it wouldn’t surprise me at all for people to assume that their car is FWD when it’s not.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 22, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Some jackass cut me off on Saturday when the roads were icy as ever

then he proceeded to drive way over a safe driving speed only to spontaneously spin out and do a 720 on a very busy highway. He ended up in the other lane, in the opposite direction, and just drove off the other way like it was no big deal. Lucky for him the 2 cars coming the other direction weren’t as stupid as he was and were able to stop in time.

After cutting me off and driving like a retard, if he would have hit those 2 cars, I probably would have pulled over and beat the crap out of him for being stupid. Yes I am an internet tough-guy.

by d0nkey on Nov 22, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Was that person driving an all-wheel-drive car?

I’ve noticed that people driving pickups, SUVs, and all-wheel-drive tend to take many more chances, without necessarily realizing that while AWD can help you start, it doesn’t help you stop.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 22, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

He was in a dodge dakota I think.

The roads were bare for a mile or two then all of a sudden it was solid ice. People are just stupid

by d0nkey on Nov 22, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Brad Childress fired

Predictable and honestly should’ve happened sooner.

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by bluemax on Nov 22, 2010 9:45 AM PST reply actions  

I'm surprised that it took this long

It’s not like they were waiting to see what happened after playing division-rival Green Bay, since they just lost to Chicago last week. His team quit on him 6 weeks ago and things had been getting worse ever since.

by tootthekazoo on Nov 22, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Griffey.

At least Favre threw some TD’s.

by Sec 108 on Nov 22, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup

At least Favre was still a semi-capable player this year. He’s certainly had a fall from grace but Griffey was horrible and essentially pulled a Milton Bradley and walked out on the team because something didn’t go his way

by tootthekazoo on Nov 22, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

But Favre has tarnished his legacy more I think.

With the texting scandal, and the “I’m retired, no wait” crap… I think more people have lost respect for Favre than for Griffey.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 22, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Griffey still has a fanbase that largely loves him

I think Green Bay in time will come to appreciate Favre again, but he’s never going to be the hero to them that he once was. Griffey had a rough ending but revisionist history will much more easily overlook Griffey’s 2010 than Favre’s 2008-2010.

by Fuckmikereilly on Nov 22, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

When Favre went to the Vikings, he lost a large portion of the GB fans forever.

To GB that was like us having Steve Largent go play for the Raiders back in the day.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 22, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

You know what I'm not sure I agree with this.

Favre at least gave Green Bay a championship. Griffey never did that here. I think over time it will be easier for Green bay fans to look back fondly on winning it all than it will be for us to know Griffey only took us to the ALCS once.

by Sec 108 on Nov 22, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, not sure what the deal is with the double post...

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 22, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Call me crazy, but I'd rather have a bad team then no team.

I’m a fan no matter what. At least we’re not one of those teams that have been waiting 90+ years for a championship.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 22, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

You and I and most here at LL are in that boat.

It is many other people that I talk to in my daily life that just do not care anymore.

by Sec 108 on Nov 22, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but these same people will hurl themselves back on the bandwagon at the first sign of success.

People are weird like that. My Dad abandoned the Seahawks after the first bad year, and says there’s “no point in following a team that doesn’t want to win”. But he still thinks the M’s are “one piece away” from being great. He also thinks we should have given WFB more playing time.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 22, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Or "put the Mariners on the map" so to speak

Which I’d agree with much more readily than “saving baseball in Seattle.”

by Fuckmikereilly on Nov 22, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm right there with you on that one

They should win out and miss the playoffs by a single game. It would piss off the fans and also give them a mid-round draft pick and I would love to see that happen

by tootthekazoo on Nov 22, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

That too

Although the Seahawks could go 4-2 to finish the season without too much trouble, so that may be tough for the Cowboys to do. But yes, that scenario would make me very happy

by tootthekazoo on Nov 22, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

KITNA!

There are apples-to-oranges issues with the data, but I will join Robert in laughing my ass off when Kitna finishes the year with a far higher QB rating (whatever that’s worth) than Romo, and when Kitna leads the Cowboys to a semi-respectable but still utterly pointless record.

by marc w on Nov 22, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Let's not go crazy here.

I hate Kitna almost as much as I hate Romo. I have nothing but good memories of Romo failing but with Kitna all I can think about is the 8-2 start then pants on head for the rest of his time in Seattle. That and apparently he would pray every Sunday for the Seahawks to lose because he was a bitter little fuck.

by Robert on Nov 22, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

A new style of beer appears:

Courtesy of Sam Adams and Weihenstephan, the new style is called Infinium.

by ThomasG on Nov 22, 2010 10:59 AM PST reply actions  

The style sounds interesting - I'll give it a try if I come across it.

Seems like an odd partnership, but then again I’m not a huge Sam Adams fan.

by Chris Hafner on Nov 22, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

It really does look pretty interesting - I'll be checking Fred Meyer's beer section carefully for the next few weeks.

 On a tangentially related note: The Dissident was released last Friday at the
Deschutes brew pubs in Oregon. They opened at 11:00 AM and were completely out of the bottled version by 1:45 PM. (They started with 40 cases and a 6 bottle limit).

 The Seattle area is supposed to get our share, which, according to the folks I talked to in Portland, is about half of what they got (so ~20 cases), split up between the 3 bottle stores this week. So, if you are a fan of the sours, call your local bottle store ASAP because it will probably be a 1-2 bottle limit and it will go FAST.

Also, it’s good. And by “good” I mean “OH-MY-FUCKING-GAWD-THIS-IS-HEAVENLY”.

by ToddK on Nov 22, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Noooooooooooooo

Snow is the one thing I will never outgrow. Every time I see filled with a child-like glee.

by BrianL on Nov 22, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I've spent the entire morning at work looking out the window

I also stepped outside to test out the camera on my phone, specifically the HD video capability. This was all really just an excuse for me to go outside in the snow though

by tootthekazoo on Nov 22, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

You're just praying for fender benders.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 22, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

It can stay as long as I can get home from work tonight,

and if I don’t have to come in tomorrow if it is too horribly nasty. I still can’t decide if I should park in my driveway and risk being stuck, or park at the top of the driveway and risk someone spinning out on the street and destroying my car.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 22, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I love snow, it's just that I love the fun snow. You know, the snow that you can go play around in

Not this shit. This is survival snow. If the weather causes me to make sure I have at least the basic survival gear with me then it can go fuck itself.

I want 33 degrees and big fluffy snow, then I’ll be happy.

by d0nkey on Nov 22, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

They're considering closing my office early too. They want us all to leave before it gets dark and ices up.

Then again we have a death trap for an exit from our parking lot. Steep downhill slope straight onto Hwy 99, with a 20 foot rockery blocking your entire view of any oncoming traffic.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 22, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm a little surprised actually.

The big bosses all live within five minutes of the office, so we usually get the “It’s not that bad, I got here just fine” speech. But they’re worried today for some reason.

"Simply put, Dave Niehaus was why Marconi invented radio."

by Thingray on Nov 22, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Late this afternoon, yeah.

That’ll bring in an even bigger drop in temperature. So yeah, freezing roads. I suppose it’s a good thing we’re leaving early.

by BrianL on Nov 22, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

It's very criminal how snow causes some people to act

The Seattle School District, South Kitsap School District and Central Kitsap School District were all canceled early and North Kitsap stayed all day because the district “doesn’t do” early dismissal even when there probably shouldn’t of been school in the first place.

…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell

by Marinerfanjake on Nov 22, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yes.

Waiting for snow days was always a miserable process for me as a kid because I lived at one of the highest points in the district and the head administrative offices were located at one of the lowest points.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Nov 22, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

NK Administration is on a hill overlooking 3 schools

And I still don’t understand what their reasoning is.

…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell

by Marinerfanjake on Nov 22, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Huzzah Bethel School district

because we were so huge geographically, if there was ice on the roads near Graham at 4am then school was delayed.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 22, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

This may be the most safe for work link I ever post.

My sister in law is doing this dog art. Thought some of you might enjoy it. This is for all you dog lovers slash Pun lovers.

http://pantingportraits.com/

Its finally happened.

by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 22, 2010 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

A Scottish Terrier

Instant Win!

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 22, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahaha and then I saw Corgiroy

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 22, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow at this line

“In the new-age NFL where playing punishing defense is becoming increasingly frowned upon”

No, its where playing to hurt people is being frowned upon.

To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.

by bluemax on Nov 22, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

This always reminds me of a guy that I worked for a while back who used to play for the Cowboys back in the 70s or earlier.

He told me that they would give (cash?) bonuses to the players for injuring the opposing players. I don’t know if this is well documented, and I only have his word to go on, but he really didn’t seem like the kind of guy to make shit up.

by d0nkey on Nov 22, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Has anyone else been watching Conan?

I thought the first few episodes were hit-and-miss but they’ve steadily gotten better. Last week’s interview with Russell Brand may have been the most hilarious non Glover/Phoenix guest I’ve ever seen on a late night show.

Other thoughts?

by BrianL on Nov 22, 2010 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

I wish Russell Brand would die in a fire, but that interview was really good.

His show has been pretty good in my opinion. Sure some has been a hit-or-miss but all of his shows have been that way. It’s definately nice to see him on T.V. again

by d0nkey on Nov 22, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Well at least my school finally decides to close school before two buses collide.

Managed to get out early and had a rather fun snowball fight during my Ap Physics class.

You got slurved!

by Slurvey on Nov 22, 2010 2:57 PM PST reply actions  

Well here's a new one the map is telling me
TRAFFIC HAZARD
* Party in Center Divider and 1 Lane 3:30 PM
* Per 154 South Just South of W Bernardo in Center Divider 3:35 PM
* Does Freeway Service Patrol Need a T/break 3:36 PM
* Have 87-19 Run a Break, 19 Copies 3:37 PM
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