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David Pauley, Luke French Get It Over With

I'm not sure how I missed this, but a few days ago, a user over at Beyond The Box Score ran a study to identify the fastest- and slowest-working pitchers in baseball. Turns out PITCHfx data comes with a time stamp, which I'd never known. And it's by looking at this time stamp that one can identify which guys work quickly, and which guys play for the Red Sox.

Here's the study, which looks at the 20 fastest and slowest workers among 295 qualified pitchers. A qualified pitcher threw at least 500 pitches in 2010 that weren't (A) thrown with runners on, (B) the first pitch of an at bat, (C) pitches following on-field delays, or (D) pitches with an obviously glitchy time stamp. The whole none on/men on issue may be significant, as some guys might work exceptionally slowly out of the stretch, but this is the only way to make sure pick-off throws don't skew the numbers.

Results? The fastest worker - to no one's surprise - is Chicago's Mark Buehrle, who averaged 16.0 seconds between pitches. The slowest worker was Rafael Betancourt, at 31.3 seconds between pitches. The slowest-working starter was Matt Garza, at 25.7. The fastest-working reliever was Sean Gallagher, at 17.1.

Interestingly, if you look at the 20 slowest, you don't find any Mariners. If you look at the 20 fastest, you find three. Doug Fister's at 17.5 seconds. Luke French is at 16.2 seconds. And David Pauley is right there, tied with Buehrle at 16.0 seconds. On average, the Mariners had the third-fastest pitching staff in baseball last season. (You'll never guess who finished last!)

I don't think this is a super meaningful statistic. The obvious follow-up is "are faster pitchers better? Are they worse?" and there's no clear evidence that one's pace makes a difference. So one might consider this something of an analytical dead end. However, I think there are two types of statistics with incomplete overlap. There are the numbers that mean something in terms of predicting future performance. And there are the numbers that mean something in terms of entertainment or watchability. I don't think David Pauley or Luke French really gain anything from working quickly, but their tempo sure makes them more watchable, and that's significant to us as fans. These are guys we've had to and may again have to watch, and it's better that they work quickly rather than slowly.

Everything about Jonathan Papelbon makes him a turd.

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In my experience....

You know…PONY and middle relief for the JV team…
I always worked faster. It kept me in a tempo, kept me from thinking too much. I don’t know what statistics may reflect, but I would assume it depends completely upon the pitcher and his style of work.

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by Bballpitcher2 on Nov 15, 2010 3:56 PM PST reply actions  

Is it dumb that my first thought was "fastball fastball fastball"?

This guarantees my evening free time will be spent trying to figure out fastball percentage by pitchers at the top and bottom of the list. Oh for some spreadsheet skills.

by Kermit. on Nov 15, 2010 4:01 PM PST reply actions  

I mentioned this on Twitter a few days ago,

but something interesting is that all the starters who work quickly have ‘average’ stuff and don’t rack up strikeouts. Not sure what that really means but it makes sense.

by 200tang on Nov 15, 2010 4:12 PM PST reply actions  

I may be in the minority here,

But I think a “shot clock” for pitchers would be just buckets of fun. I imagine Papelbon consistently spacing out and forgetting about it, so once or twice an inning he spazzes out and fires the ball 15 feet over the catchers head.

But seriously, nothing is worse than the Yankees’ haughty “baseball happens on OUR time” attitude. I think they feel like they’re doing all us provincials a favor: “Soak it up, you’re playing the Yankees, in all our solemn majesty.”

by Manzanillos Cup on Nov 15, 2010 5:10 PM PST reply actions  

I have a copy of a Baseball annual Magazine from 1951.

The cover story is about how the games are getting too long and what we can do to hurry up the games. The author of the article was complaining that games were lasting longer than 2 hours and 30 minutes, and his proposed changes would get the game time back under 2 hours, like it was in the “good old days”

59 seasons ago…

by ambrosia2112 on Nov 15, 2010 8:02 PM PST reply actions  

I'm all for this. Back in the "good old days" you could barely go to the bathroom and grab

a beer and the game was back on. The catcher was sometimes given some extra time (a backup catcher would catch the pitcher’s warm-up throws) if the starting catcher happened to be on base at the end of his team’s at bat. Otherwise, he was ready to go as soon as the last batter was out. There is no need (other than money) for this not to be the case today. Not everything from the “good old days” was bad. I swear I will never, ever, watch another Miguel Batista game. Life is too short and I am too old.

by TrustBaseball on Nov 15, 2010 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

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