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61-101, Chart

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Biggest Contribution: Ichiro, +19.0%
Biggest Suckfest: Josh Wilson, -31.2%
Most Important AB: Ichiro double, +27.4%
Most Important Pitch: Kouzmanoff homer, -12.8%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -11.8%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -48.2%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +10.0%
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Nobody does seasons like the Mariners!

2007: 88-74
2008: 61-101
2009: 85-77
2010: 61-101

by ThundaPC on Oct 3, 2010 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

The progression should be to 82-80.

While I think we’d probably take that as an outcome for 2011, I don’t think we want the pattern to hold into 2012, unless you want to see more bad baseball and GMZ fired.

by eponymous_coward on Oct 3, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just the third time a team has sandwitched a winning season between 2 100+ loss seasons.

Cleveland in the ‘80s and Kansas City in the ’00s. Sooooooooooooooooo there’s that . . .

by quacker27 on Oct 3, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

IT'S OVER!!!

Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

by SethGrandpa on Oct 3, 2010 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow

They really lost the same amount of games as 2008? Glad this nightmare is over!

by Ghost of Bobby Ayala on Oct 3, 2010 4:32 PM PDT reply actions  

My favorite highlights since 2004 (in no particular order):

Triple Play, Felix recording 3 K’s on 9 pitches thrown for strikes, Felix’ Grand Slam, Rob Johnson being sent down, Cliff Lee, Felix Extension. I’m likely missing a couple of fantastic gems. Vidro fouling a ball off his eye just missed the cut

by Kermit. on Oct 3, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

This one made me really happy.

Ichiro Walk-Off off Rivera.

Morgan Ensberg for Manager 2011!
AL Scout on Rendon: "I would peg him as a poor man's Jose Lopez."

by joof on Oct 3, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

2004 was more fun.

You had Ichiro going for a record, so you had a reason to watch EVERY game, not just one out of five.

by eponymous_coward on Oct 3, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

2004 was awesome

If only because we weren’t used to losing yet and got to see roster moves that rarely occurred in years past and Leone!

This just sucked. Worse than 2008 even

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Oct 3, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know.

In this case we have some hope for the future in Smoak and Saunders and Felix probably winning the Cy Young.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Oct 3, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

We had Lopez and Reed and Olivo and a bunch of nifty fringe prospects then and Ichiro setting the hits record which was more actively interesting DURING the season

Plus Bucky Jacobsen (!) and Edgar retiring.

Couple that with the fact that at least I didn’t have as good a grasp on what a good player was vs a bad player compared to today and saw Leone as a neat prospect. Dobbs had a sweet swing, Jamal Strong looked fast. I really enjoyed watching Jolbert Cabrera for some reason

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Oct 3, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

and Bobby Madritsch!

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Oct 3, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Madritsch sells me on this line of thinking.

Madritsch >>>>> Fister; Vargas; French; Pauley; Snell, and Bad Hyphen.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Oct 3, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Madritsch was so much fun to watch.

I was at the game in 05 when his arm fell off- that was horribly, horribly disappointing. I’d say it was even more devastating to watch than when Felix got injured in 07 after the Dice-K game (a game I was also at- huh, maybe I should stay away from Mariners games)

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Oct 3, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you're comparing to 2008

Then maybe you’re right. The thing with 08 was expectations weren’t so high. Bavasi’s moves were uninspiring, a lot of people saw that coming. Nobody figured 2010 was going to be this much of a collapse and after the high of last season/offseason, it just seemed like everything was working out.

2007 built up a tiny bit of optimism which was crushed
2009 built up a massive amount of optimism which was crushed

The other thing is that during 08 we knew the team was going to be nuked in 09 and hopefully good things would happen. Following 2010, I have no idea what the fuck to expect and that scares me.

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by Corco on Oct 3, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel a bit differently now...

….in part because I think the system is in better shape. What options did we have at first base immediately after the ’08 season? Lahair. On the middle infield? Just Triunfel, who had come off a campaign in High Desert where he had hit eight home runs. In center field? You had Jeremy Reed, unless you thought Saunders could play there, or that Halman was somehow going to improve upon his terrible plate discipline (#1 prospect!). Ibanez was leaving and no one was going to take his place. After Felix we had hopes of Bedard, but a smallish time frame in which we could do anything with him. Carlos Silva, Miguel Batista and Jarrod Washburn were still consuming a fair amount of our payroll. Morrow figured in there too, I suppose. But all of our pitching prospects had just finished the Midwest League and were two or three years away.

Now? We have Smoak. We have Ackley. We have Nick Franklin somewhere down the line. While we don’t have King Awesome at third, or anything close, we’re not lacking for internal options at the moment. Guti has center. Condor, perhaps has left. Moore at least has age on his side, which is more than Burke had, though we all rooted for him, certainly. Pineda is capable of following Felix, the bullpen is young and improving, and the back end of the rotation is serviceable and cheap. Various others could contribute in the near-term as well. And after next season, both Jack Wilson and Milton Bradley come off the books, which gives us some financial maneuvering room to do things again.

The expectations for this year were the killer, but the team is in a far better place than it was heading into that offseason. We don’t know what exactly is going to happen from hear out, but we’re probably going to get something interesting for Aardsma, and cutting bait with a few of the players on the current roster will give us some room to make minor improvements where we can. What those might be is up in that air, particularly since we don’t look like a great destination at the moment, but we could also see Zduriencik take a few chances on guys in the hopes that they’ll be able to do something with us for years to come. That’s not so bad.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Oct 3, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

What a clusterfuck.

The only way this could get worse is pitcher related and I’m not even going to mention it.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Oct 3, 2010 4:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Whew, finally, the end of the 2010 season.

Man that was no fun. Question to those smarter than I am (Jeff, Matthew, other regulars…):
Should we be excited for next year’s Mariners based on the Tacoma Rainiers of this year? Even if that gives no basis of how the Mariners as a team will perform, which individual players should we expect onto the ML Roster and be excited about?

2010 Safeco Field Record: 2-1 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 12-5

by Fin on Oct 3, 2010 5:22 PM PDT reply actions  

The Mariner's final record this year reminds me of the old saying,

“You win 60 games and you lose 60 games. What you do with the rest of them is what counts.” We chose to win one of them. One of them.

by TrustBaseball on Oct 3, 2010 5:35 PM PDT reply actions  

This is the way the world ends:

This is the way the world ends:
This is the way the world ends:
Not with a bang but with a whimper.

I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Ugh

by HitKing69 on Oct 3, 2010 5:42 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Ichiro :(
# TNTmariners Ichiro: "It’s hard to say that I can be optimistic because I don’t think anyone should be. This is reality. "#Mariners 12 minutes ago via TweetDeck
# Ryan Divish TNTmariners Ichiro: “We had very big expectations but the results were terrible.” #Mariners 25 minutes ago via TweetDeck

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Oct 3, 2010 5:45 PM PDT reply actions  

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