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Happy 37th Birthday, Ichiro Suzuki

I don't know how true it actually is, but a lot of people still believe that a baseball player's peak comes between the ages of 27 and 29. It makes sense. By the age of 27, a player is fully developed physically, and he's gained enough big league experience to know how to handle himself day-to-day and week-to-week. By 30, the experience is only greater, and the body's still in good shape, but things begin to hurt a little easier than they used to, and other things begin to move a little slower. Somewhere around 30, a player will have to start doing more just to maintain, and, ultimately, it's always a losing battle.

So it's interesting to me to compare age 36 Ichiro with age 27-29 Ichiro. Granted, age 27 Ichiro didn't have any big league experience at all, but he made up for that over the next two years, and he was fresh off a completely dominant reign of offensive terror in Japan. Age 27-29 Ichiro - we'd expect that to be Ichiro at his best. By 36, we'd ordinarily expect some things not to work, and other things not to work as well.

When you look at the actual numbers, though, what's startling is the lack of evidence that Ichiro's actually gotten older like the rest of us get older. You don't see it in his batting average. From 2001-2003, he hit .328. In 2010, for a miserable team with absolutely zero offensive support, he hit .315.

You don't see it in his steals. From 2001-2003, he stole an average of 40 bases, with a success rate of 77%. In 2010, he stole 42 bases, with a success rate of 81%.

You don't see it in his games. From 2001-2003, he averaged 158 games and 730 plate appearances. In 2010, he played 162 games, with 732 plate appearances.

You don't see it in his defense. We don't have UZR for 2001, but from 2002-2003 he averaged a score of +14.6 runs in right field. In 2010, he posted a score of +15.6.

You don't see it in his infield hits. Again, we don't have data for 2001, but from 2002-2003 he averaged 38 infield hits. In 2010, he racked up 53 infield hits.

You don't see it in his double plays. From 2001-2003, he averaged five double play grounders. In 2010, he hit three double play grounders.

You don't see it in his bat control. One more time, we're without 2001 data, but from 2002-2003 he put up a contact rate of 87.2%. In 2010, his contact rate was 89.0%.

The evidence that Ichiro is getting older - it just isn't there. I mean, his overall numbers in 2010 were a little below what we've come to expect, but again, he was batting leadoff for one of the worst lineups in modern baseball history. Pitchers had little reason to give Ichiro much to hit, and Ichiro had every reason to try and do too much. He only hit six home runs, and he only slugged .394. Those are substandard marks. But in 2009 - leading off for a bad, but by no means historic lineup - he hit 11 home runs, and slugged .465. He was 35. You look at his 2009 numbers, or you watch him in batting practice, and it's plainly evident that he still has that surprising power he's always had.

Ichiro isn't completely ageless. He's sporting a few more wrinkles than he used to, although you probably shouldn't remind him. The game's a little more draining. Missing out on the playoffs is getting to him, and he knows he's running out of time to win a World Series.

But when you watch him on the field, he's just that same guy he always was. He still fights ridiculous pitches off. He still sprints out of the batter's box while he swings. He still puts the ball on the ground and runs like hell. He still throws harder than all but a handful of outfielders in the league. He still plays with the energy of a child and the maturity of an elder, and he still looks like he could play this game another 20 years. Maybe he will. Would anyone be surprised by anything Ichiro does anymore?

Happy 37th birthday to the biggest reason the Mariners still remain popular. To a unique superstar in a pool of duplicates and approximations, and to one of the greatest pure players I've ever had the privilege of seeing. If only for today, Ichiro, I urge you to let baseball slip from your mind and enjoy whatever weirdass avant-garde futuristic shit you probably enjoy when you celebrate something. The galaxy clown isn't going to transmogrify the porcupine starship by itself.

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Through the ups and downs of the last decade

Mostly downs, let’s be honest, Ichiro has often been the one source of pride I’ve had as a Mariners fan. The almost insane dedication he shows, the fact that he appears to be more prepared than anyone else, and the bizarre quotes that leave us laughing, wondering, or both, it’s all been a joy.

I really hope we can make at least one more playoff run while he’s still a core part of this team. You hear all the time that players “deserve” a World Series ring, but there can’t be many who deserve it more than Ichiro.

I'd rather know a little about a lot than a lot about a little

by Sportszilla on Oct 22, 2010 10:38 AM PDT reply actions  

I love you, Ichi.

I was at your first game as a Mariner, and I’ll probably cry on the day I attend your last.

Milton Bradley apologist

by sanford_and_son on Oct 22, 2010 11:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Damn you s_a_s.

I got teary just thinkg about his final game. Damn you. Damn you to hell.

Just picture Randichiro.

by fiftyone on Oct 22, 2010 2:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry bud!

Think happy thoughts, like Felix and Ichiro sharing a milkshake.

Milton Bradley apologist

by sanford_and_son on Oct 22, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the Big Leagues even the bad players are really good at baseball.

But Ichiro is just so damn good at every little part of the game that he stands out among his peers. May you play forever little dude.

Griffey!

by Big Jared on Oct 22, 2010 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   3 recs

I was at this game.

Seeing Ichiro hit a walk off homer against the best closer in baseball was the greatest thing I’ve seen at Safeco. Thankyou Ichiro and Happy Birthday!

by grips on Oct 22, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awwww Ikkyu....

I kind of want to get a Shiba Inu, but the logistics of it would be tricky.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Oct 22, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I so want one.

but they are too smart and too busy and it would not be fair to the dog to make it sit in a small apartment all day, alone.

Now if someone gave me lots of money to stay home and play with the dog …

by msb on Oct 22, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

He also closes on the day that he throws on the side.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Oct 22, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Oct 22, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stranger things have happened.

Bobby Livingston, back in high school, threw both ends of a doubleheader, one left-handed, one right-handed.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Oct 22, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never knew he threw with both hands...

"There! I just sold you for a cigarette! And I don't smoke!"

by Thingray on Oct 22, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some left-handers do it.

It’s a weird phenomenon. Most of the guys who do end up settling on lefty regardless of the stuff differential because it’s in greater demand.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors

by JY on Oct 22, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot about the Mariners commercial

Where Ichiro is pitching until I saw it at the Eric Wedge thing on Tuesday.

The team knows about it, why the heck won’t we let him pitch? One game, a blowout, anything?

We let Jamie Burke do it…

by ambrosia2112 on Oct 22, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Nobody has the balls to take the tiny risk that he might hurt his arm, or get injured by a comebacker.

"There! I just sold you for a cigarette! And I don't smoke!"

by Thingray on Oct 22, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope Ichiro signs Jamie Moyer as his agent and plays until he's 50.

Julio Franco [is boring].

I could see Ichiro coming back at age 72 for a publicity stunt and then getting a hit off a guy who was trying to pitch him an easy walk.

by Ike Clanton on Oct 22, 2010 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Happy birthday to my all-time favorite Mariner.

And I fully expect you to be playing in a playoff game at Safeco on your 50th.

by drblacknwhite on Oct 22, 2010 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Power

I love watching Ichiro play, and he’s certainly still performing similarly to how he has his whole career, however, I do think that he might be declining in what power he did have. That links to his SLG graph, but ISO looks similarly, except for 2009.

by batura on Oct 22, 2010 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Some of this could be because he's surrounded by total crap.

Why would anyone pitch to him?

"There! I just sold you for a cigarette! And I don't smoke!"

by Thingray on Oct 22, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Once he looses his footspeed

he’ll turn into a mega power hitter for his age 45-55 seasons.

by Kevman22 on Oct 22, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ichiro improves instead of declining, because Ichiro is a witch

I have been saying this for years. You people just won’t listen.

by lemonverbena on Oct 22, 2010 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Ichiro has been maried for quite some time.

Why doesn’t he have any kids? Would it be fair for the little leagues in their area?

Eat shit bum!

by LeftArrow2 on Oct 22, 2010 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

There can be only one.

Ichispawn will rise from Ichiro’s ashes.

by ThomasG on Oct 23, 2010 5:12 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

One of my all time favorite moments in history

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtImIqR5neU

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry

by jctGamer on Oct 22, 2010 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Ichiro is the reason I am a baseball fan today.

I gave up on baseball when the strike killed the Expos season, and didn’t come back because MLB was screwing over my team.

Then I heard that Ichiro was coming to Seattle, so I started following the Mariners in spring training of 2001.

That was a good year to start watching the Mariners.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Oct 22, 2010 4:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Thankyou for writing this.

It is a great response to a lot of what I’ve heard and read as of late about the Mariners.

I know many would disagree with me but I feel that 2009 was Ichiro’s best all around year with the possible exception of 2001. I only wish he had become a Mariner at 22 or 23 instead of 27.

by Jack Swan on Oct 22, 2010 6:23 PM PDT reply actions  

The man is ageless.

Someone should send this data over to Prospect Insider…

by Darth Flamingo on Oct 22, 2010 8:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Trade him to a contender

He needs to have the opportunity to prove himself at the postseason. He deserves that

by Jose Lopez's swing on Oct 22, 2010 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm pretty sure he likes his situation in Seattle.

The press and paparazzi here are nothing compared to Japan. He’s able to live a relatively quiet and private life here in Washington.

Eat shit bum!

by LeftArrow2 on Oct 23, 2010 2:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Trade a contender to him.

We need the opportunity to watch Ichiro prove himself at the postseason. We deserve that.

by ThomasG on Oct 23, 2010 5:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're on the right track.

Do a fund-raising drive in Japan…tell them you’re going to buy Ichiro a championship.

Done right, the team will draw enough money in donations to buy any player they want.

by Sidi on Oct 24, 2010 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah ! I'm a Mariners supporters

But it’s painful to watch people like Derek Jeter who is having a horrible year in NY still manages to get more than 100 runs while Ichiro only manages to gain 70-80 runs because of the horrible run supports. Imagine if Ichiro playing for the Yankees. His number will be off the chart

by Jose Lopez's swing on Oct 22, 2010 11:16 PM PDT reply actions  

(I'm a bit late but) Happy Birthday Ichiro!

Please never leave us.
You’re the only reason I’ve been following the Mariners as closely as I do.
I love you man!

by NeighborTom2 on Oct 25, 2010 3:00 AM PDT reply actions  

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