Add Lloyd McClendon To The List
by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 12, 2010 9:13 AM PDT
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Print...former Pirates manager Lloyd McClendon will be in town this week to interview.
Lloyd McClendon has served as:
- the Pirates' hitting coach
- the Pirates' manager
- the Tigers' bullpen coach
- the Tigers' hitting coach
McClendon's resume works as evidence that there are x number of coaches for x number of coaching positions, and that when one guy gets fired, somebody else's coach gets hired to take his spot, and everybody just shifts around a little. There are no new coaches, and when old coaches start to die, new blood is not introduced, and the position is eliminated. It is expected that within the next 40 years, the final remaining coach will expire, and all players will be left to fend for themselves.
Is McClendon any good? No idea. He had a 43.0% winning percentage over five years with the Pirates. In the five years previous to his reign, the Pirates had a winning percentage of 45.5%. In the five years since, they've had a winning percentage of 39.8%. The only thing I can conclude from these numbers is that the Pirates are somehow getting worse.
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I have a feeling this will be one of those interviews
where the applicant has no clue how over his head the position he’s applying for is and, ten minutes into the conversation, both him and the employer are still making small talk about the Red Sox and the Boston commute, trying to find a polite way to end the interview and to stop wasting each other’s time for a job he’s obviously not qualified for.
If anybody's qualified to take over this miserable team, it's the former manager of the Pirates
by Jeff Sullivan on Oct 12, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Buck Showalter!
PLAOYFFS
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
Or, PLAYOFFS
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett Mariners Minors
He's writing for FG
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Oct 12, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Fuck me
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Oct 12, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I would read Maury Wills if he wrote for Fangraphs
At least until it became kind of sad.
The only thing less exciting than our 2010 offense will be the hiring of a manager.
“Hey do you remember that name of that guy that managed for several years on that team that was horrible? Yeah, he’s with us now.”
“Oh. Are we better now?”
“I have no idea.”
by Kenneth Arthur on Oct 12, 2010 10:02 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
As if the M's haven't had enough problems trying to steal bases
Did the M’s baserunning woes stop as the season went on, or what that just my interest in the team?
That's one of my favorite non-Lou-Piniella blowups of all time.
Charter Member: Dave Sims Sweet Hat Club // Career .384 BA, .543 OBP for Rocky Diablos
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 12, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
There are a lot of managerial openings this winter and most of them are better jobs than the Mariners.
If we are intent on hiring before the other teams then we will get to interview people who lack either the ability or the self confidence to wait for one of the better jobs. This is not a good year for the Mariners to be hiring.
One thing you can glean from this I think
is they’re going to be pretty conservative with the next manager. Every single name, every one, is a fairly experienced ML manager. There was speculation when Wak was fired what kind of guy they would hire next and the general thinking was it was gong to be a good ole boy. Looks like it will.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Oct 12, 2010 12:33 PM PDT reply actions
Although they seem to have some pretty fired up people on this list.
Seems most of the candidates have had some well known explosions either on or off the field. Seems to me like they’re looking for a “won’t take any shit” kind of guy.
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"
The cynical part of my brain says that they're trying to please the Piniella crowd.
by Eyeball Kid on Oct 12, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
That might have some validity to it.
I got the impression this year that a lot of fans would have laid off Wak if he had just been more fired up and yelled and players and thrown some bases around the field. I think that’s a pretty stupid reason to like a manager, but there are also a lot of stupid fans out there I guess.
No matter where you go, there you are.
If there is a feeling that Wak wasn't strong enough to control the clubhouse,
then a “fire-y” or “tough” manager might make some sense. It has been quite a while since we tried that approach (Hargrove, Melvin, Wak, all pretty mellow guys), so maybe a change would be good.
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"
He's got jack shit on Lee Elia
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Oct 12, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Any way we could get Mike Singetary or Mike Gundy?
We may not know how managers affect on-field performance, but some of them clearly add something outside the lines.
That could make sense.
The front office knows the personalities of the players and how they react better than we do. With so much of the roster already pretty much set heading into next year Jack can probably make a pretty good guess on what kind of personality would work best with the team in 2011 and going forward.
No matter where you go, there you are.
It's a thought.
I think the whole thing comes down to how much faith you have in Z and the rest of the FO. I’m on their side for now, so if they want to hire Pee-Wee Herman, I’d say “if that’s what you think is best”.
(Not really, but you know what I mean)
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"
The FO really has some winners lined up, huh.
Not that any rational person is beating down the Mariner’s door to manage this team, but christ…..
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Oct 12, 2010 12:47 PM PDT reply actions
Lets everyone remember that there are plenty of managers that looked shitty at some point, then went on to great careers.
Look at Joe Torre. He was a nobody as far as managers go when he got the Yankees job. Even HE was amazed that he was even interviewed.
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"
It's true. I should just refrain from commenting on any Mariners related news until at least Feb.
I’m still way too bitter and irrational.
Milton Bradley apologist
by sanford_and_son on Oct 12, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
In other words...
….we don’t know jack about what makes a good manager…
EXACTAMUNDO.
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?"
Turns out he's part white.
Great-grandfather on his mother’s side.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Oct 12, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
There's a joke in there somewhere about the Mariners, minorities and firing Wak on Japanese Heritage Night.
No matter where you go, there you are.
This shifting around of managers is like playing "musical chairs."
but in this game they never take away a chair after the music stops.
Peter Bourjos is faster than anyone on your team.
Oh crap, was I in charge of maintaining the list?
I’m sorry, I’ve hardly been paying attention. You know, because it doesn’t matter.
This is somewhat unrelated to this post but...
does anyone know if the mariners are interviewing Daren Brown, or is it just given that they will give him an interview? Just out of curiosity, I don’t have a preference whether or not he will be the mariners next manager.
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