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OT January 7th, 2010

Anyone ever figure something out long after the fact?  For instance, some time ago brayden04 said today is a great day, probably 3 months later I realized he might have made a triple double that day and I missed an opportunity to ask him about it.  

Or the time I thought acblue was correcting my grammar, some time later I discovered he was possibly referencing this, which would explain my initial confusion.  Or maybe he wasn't, either way I'm still a little confused but that was still an amusing read.

Recently, fogel cracked wise with "milk is gay".  Four hours after reading that I literally sat up in bed and said out loud, "Harvey Milk" (for whom I will not provide a link, politics), then went back to sleep.  That one was definitely strange. 

Also, the perfect sport movie was once discussed.  Can't locate the thread but someone, perhaps marc w. or pdb, commented to the effect that most sports movies were just a setting for something else.  Romance, drama, thriller.  And I agreed with that, and by and large still do.  HOWEVER (there's always a but), every winter as ski season approaches, it's a personal tradition to watch Downhill Racer.  I love the story, directing, cinematography, all of it.  Great '70's movie, and possibly a pure sports movie.  The athlete, the ego, the training, the failures, the great success, the women, and eventually the realization that youth will be served and time is fleeting.  Fantastic sports movie, can't believe it slipped my mind.  

Also, is interested in a pre-event meet up this Saturday?  I'm up for getting there a bit early and having a beer, maybe meet some new people.

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You are hilarious, Kermit.

I wish I was going to be around on Saturday, but I have to go to Portland. I am heartbroken at missing an opportunity for beer with you goons. And obviously missing the event.

by royalcurve on Jan 7, 2010 11:48 AM PST reply actions  

Swap God for a janitor? Rot in a jar of dog paws!

(ZOMG NO RELIGION)

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 7, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Racecar!

Sorry, that’s all I got…

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Jan 7, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Was it a car or a cat I saw?

ZSwing%: "The rate at which a player wife-swaps with Jack Zduriencik." --- Vatinius

by .Taylor on Jan 7, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

The pac-10 isn't as bas as the national media/ESPN wants to make us.

They saw UCLA suck out the gate and declared the rest of the pac-10 garbage.

OSU is one of the worst teams I’ve ever seen (besides last years Ducks). That new Armstead kid at UO is amazing.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jan 7, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

UCLA, Standford, OSU, and Arizona can't even be described as "good"

Oregon, USC, and WSU are fringe tournament-level teams.
UW, Cal, and ASU are good, but not top tier.

No excellent teams and not enough depth to be considered anywhere near elite this year.

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by lailaihei on Jan 7, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The Pac Ten is unbelievably terrible this year

there’s one legitimately decent team, and I’m not even sure how good they are in Washington. Everyone else ranges from “NIT quarterfinalist” to “so dreadful I can’t believe they don’t play in the WAC”

by seattlebruin on Jan 7, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Like this conference is legendarily bad

much like we’ll tell our grandchildren stories of how terrible of shortstop Yuniesky Betancourt was, we’ll tell them stories of how bad the 2009-2010 Pac Ten was in men’s basketball

by seattlebruin on Jan 7, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

How's this -

Las Vegas (NV) Findlay Prep would probably finish second or third in the Pac Ten this year. This would be OK, if Findlay Prep weren’t a high school team (albeit an outstanding high school team on which every player will play D-1 ball, but still)

by seattlebruin on Jan 7, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

UW has a good team and potential for the future

Oregon State has lots of potential because of the coach and the good things he’s done in recruiting.

Oregon, Berkeley and Arizona State have ceilings of fairly mediocre big-school programs – a few Sweet 16s and Elite 8s here and there, and regular contenders for the NCAAs, but that’s all.

WSU should have never let Tony Bennett leave. They’re fucked.

So that’s sixty percent of a ten team league, which can best be described as “the WAC with more students.”

The other four teams are complete and utter trainwrecks, and besides Arizona, it’s not getting better before it gets worse.

by seattlebruin on Jan 7, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt WSU could have gotten Tony to stay.

They had just upped his contract and he probably figured jump now or be stuck with a rebuild for a couple years.

And at least Ken Bone’s team is watchable tempo wise. I think Ben Howland likened Bennett’s teams to “a slow root canal”.

I think it’s UW and Cal battling for the title and the rest of us trying to win enough to get to the tourney where we’ll get booted in the first round.

by wazzu93 on Jan 7, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Tony Bennett's teams were awesome because they were so fundamentally sound

and at WSU, he had to make do with what he had.

The thing was that he could make the most of the talent he had, and was even starting to recruit decently. The problem with Ken Bone is that WSU has never been a premier destination for talent in the west, and it’s hard to see him changing that.

by seattlebruin on Jan 7, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Basically I would have given Bennett whatever he wanted

I once advocated trying to get Ben Howland to go the NBA so we could get Bennett. And that was right after the third Final Four

by seattlebruin on Jan 7, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

There wasn't anything that would have made him stay though.

1) You’re right WSU is not a destination spot so recruiting is always tough.

2)Our state budget is so fucked they’ve had to layoff hundreds of people at universities, plus up tuition and cut programs, so I doubt they much wiggle room.

by wazzu93 on Jan 7, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if I would call WSU fundamentally sound

So much as fundamentally boring.

I hated watching them hold the ball for 28 seconds and then run a play.. Only to get the offensive rebound and rinse lather repeat.

by seattlesundevil on Jan 7, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

This season has been equal parts enjoyment and hatred of the team

enjoyment because
1. epic failures and trainwrecks endlessly amuse me
2. having everyone tell me how right I was about Howland two years ago when they all said I was fucking insane for criticizing him then

hatred because
1. GOD THIS TEAM IS SO FUCKING BAD

by seattlebruin on Jan 7, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

HA! Rec'd for hilarious.

But I have to hang my hat on basketball because our football is …well, words cannot describe.

by wazzu93 on Jan 7, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that was semi the point..

They are pretty bad. Not force 6 turnovers and still lose by 3 scores to ASU at home bad.. but bad.

by seattlesundevil on Jan 7, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

And yes.. I see what you were doin there..

Just wanted to reference that terrible performance at Martin this year.

by seattlesundevil on Jan 7, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude I've been doing it all day

Most of the people I work with on this floor went to OSU and I’ve been enjoying every minute of talking to them about it. my only regret is that I have no Seattle U hat or shirt or anything to wear.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I fear I am turning NOLAish

I saw this and tried to remember when I typed it…

by seattlesundevil on Jan 7, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

All my recs are based on organizing football games.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 7, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but you need to regress it. Try tRecA

ZSwing%: "The rate at which a player wife-swaps with Jack Zduriencik." --- Vatinius

by .Taylor on Jan 7, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Are we listing personal heros now?

Batman, Ichiro, my mom, Jesus, Tara Chase (Queen and Country graphics). I guess those are my heros right off the top of my head.

by mark sobba on Jan 7, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Batman doesn't even have any superpowers.

Plus, his real identity is kind of a douche. Spiderman has bitchin’ abilities, and Peter Parker is someone who at least most of us can relate to. The personal struggles, the conflicts of one’s own problems and what is expected of someone given such abilities is exemplified perfectly in Spiderman. Peter Parker never decided to be a superhero, it just happened to him.

by I Lick Squirrels on Jan 7, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

No

There is a reason you lick squirrels, and it’s because you don’t like Batman

I don't care how well he does for the M's...FUCK ENDY CHAVEZ

by Fuzz on Jan 7, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Batman is a reletively boring superhero.

Let me go throw on my bat suit and drive my sick bat car and I’ll call my self a super hero.

by Kirk on Jan 7, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

You can say that about superhero.

My name is Wolverine. Let me take my claws out. Sure you can hurt me, but I’ll eventually recover, because that’s my power.

by katal on Jan 7, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

He does have the claws attached to his body though.

I think Superman is the best but that’s because he can’t die really at all.

by Kirk on Jan 7, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Superman failed at dying.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 8, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Anyone else think it would be hilarious if Mark McGwire actually got in for the Cardinals in a game?

Thus, resetting his HoF clock and giving people more time to evaluate the steroid era and how they are going to vote it?

I do.

by seattlesundevil on Jan 7, 2010 12:46 PM PST reply actions  

Might even be good for baseball, beacuse there's no doubt in my mind that McGwire belongs in the HoF

it’s the Hall of Fame, not Hall of the Best Players to Ever Play, But Only Based on Circumstancial Evidence About Cheating and Not Caring About Other Forms of Being a Shitty Human Being.

by seattlebruin on Jan 7, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I wrote a huge rant about that exact thing last night, almost used it as OT fodder.

First I have to re-read the Defenders of the Hall (or whatever the title is) that Posnanski wrote. There’s a decent to good chance I subconsciously cribbed the entire thing.

by Kermit. on Jan 7, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

On another note - anyone friends with parents on facebook?

My mother told me I should “wash my mouth out with soap” after I typed “fuuuuuck that” on a story about it being -52 in ND… Sidenote – anyone in ND? Because.. fuuuuck that.

by seattlesundevil on Jan 7, 2010 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

I told my dad I wasn't going to add him.

A lot of the things I put on facebook aren’t what I what my parents to see. Especially given that I rarely swear in front of them.

by Mariner John on Jan 7, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

My parents have filthier mouths than I do.

That said, relatives and co-workers really did ruin Facebook.

by Teej on Jan 7, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm friend with my stepmom, which is weird.

She doesn’t post ever though, and only logs on every few months, so I don’t see it as being problematic. If it does get bad, I’ll put her on a separate list.

Facebook and family is an interesting combination though. If not for it, I wouldn’t know that my cousin, the Latin/arts major, drops more f-bombs than I do.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 7, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

It usually goes something like this:

My status update: “I’m doing this semi-fun thing.”
My aunt: “That does sound fun!”
My co-worker: “I’ll have to give that a shot.”
My friend from softball: “You gobble yards of cocks!”

by Teej on Jan 7, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions   9 recs

And Aunt and Grandma then get a notice telling them that someone else has commented on my status, and there's that.

I couldn’t care less about my parents seeing stuff like that, but more distant relatives . . . no thanks. That’s what I like about Twitter. If I reply to you, the only people who see it (besides the two of us) are people who follow both of us. So different people can reply to me without everyone on earth seeing every reply.

by Teej on Jan 7, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

My brothers do the last line sometimes.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 7, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I had eight people reviewing Avatar

on a status update where I specifically say I haven’t seen it.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 7, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

What kind of an idiot would do that

ZSwing%: "The rate at which a player wife-swaps with Jack Zduriencik." --- Vatinius

by .Taylor on Jan 7, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

My dad is on mine but luckily I don't think he ever uses his.

My bigger concern are my younger cousins who are much less, let’s say libertine in nature, than I.

by Aaron Campeau on Jan 7, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I beg you not to make your nephews/nieces/other family members highly uncomfortable by basically posting

“I’m not wearing a bra” as your status

This is why family and facebook don’t mix- as much as I don’t want my family knowing certain things about my day-to-day activity, there are certainly times I don’t want to know about my family’s day-to-day activity either

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by Corco on Jan 7, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

!

Patriots, Bengals, :(owboys. Packers

by Robert on Jan 7, 2010 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

Lardarius Webb will have a TD.

Randy Moss will have less than 50 yds receiving in his last game as a Patriot.
Patriots will be 4-12 next season.

I love me some wild-ass predictions on Wild card weekend!

by waldo rojas on Jan 7, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

We have the same picks

ZSwing%: "The rate at which a player wife-swaps with Jack Zduriencik." --- Vatinius

by .Taylor on Jan 7, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate America

According to TMZ (insert joke here, but they’ve broken a lot of shit), Jay Leno is going back to 11:30 on NBC. No word on what happens to Conan.

by Teej on Jan 7, 2010 1:36 PM PST reply actions  

I wouldn't mind seeing him go to FOX.

Unfortunately, I can see him going somewhere else, ala George Lopez.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

TBS.

They advertise constantly on the regional sports channels here.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Or there's CBS behind Letterman if they drop Ferguson

Putting him up against Fallon wouldn’t even be a contest.

by OlSalty on Jan 7, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm hoping that whatever happens

Conan’s new show winds up back in New York.

by BrianL on Jan 7, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure what I enjoy about Ferguson, but I do enjoy his show.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 7, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I like his sense of humor and his non-celebrity

and the fact that he revels in being a minor celebrity. And he tells a good story.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup.

And he had Judi Dench on his show.

and she was awesome.

by msb on Jan 7, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I always find it odd that the camera is posted above his head in his monologue.

It makes him look like he’s specifically trying to not look like some full-of-himself big-shot.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 8, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

>:(

Thank God the humorous stylings of Leno can return to late night.

by Mariner John on Jan 7, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

And telling inoffensive "jokes" about popular events

I assume he still tells Brokeback Mountain and Cheney shooting someone jokes.

by Mariner John on Jan 7, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Sketches like this prove that Leno is a great comedy writer, and not lazy or unfunny at all!

I especially find it hilarious when he re-states and explains punchlines that don’t get laughed at!

by BrettJMiller on Jan 7, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

THEY'RE NOT EVEN HEADLINES!

They’re typos in Bumfuck, Alabama’s local grocery ad.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jan 7, 2010 3:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I am so glad I never watch that crap.

I can’t even visualize the scene.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

It seems as if Conan is fired

Which if so it would be awesome if he went to another network at 11.30

by Poochie on Jan 7, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

This I could get behind.

If they’re willing to start their late-night programming at 11:30 instead of 12. I mean, seriously, who would rather watch a half hour of world news before comedy at 11:30? That’s what the all-news networks are for.

by BrettJMiller on Jan 7, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Nightline still on?

It shouldn’t exist after Ted Koppel left.

by Mariner John on Jan 7, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember Kimmel didn't start until 12 earlier this year.

Maybe it’s changed. I usually am not home for the late-night shows, and when I am, I almost always go to Conan. I just went to Kimmel when Leno had the Tonight Show.

by BrettJMiller on Jan 7, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I was always afraid of this.

Conan’s style isn’t too crazy for an 11:30 audience (or any other time, actually), but I do think it was a poor fit for The Tonight Show, whose audience has spent the past 15+ years watching a guy whose sense of humor was much . . . simpler. Not to imply that Conan’s sense of humor is superior (I much prefer it, but whatever), but it’s far more challenging than people were used to. A lot of people just want a Lewinski joke before they go to bed.

by Teej on Jan 7, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

That audience would die off eventually

which is why I figured NBC gave Conan the 11.30 slot, because the people that have been watching him for the last 15 years are in their 30s and 40s now

by Poochie on Jan 7, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Conan replacing Ferguson would be neat as well.

I just like the idea of both Letterman and Conan defecting to CBS after NBC shafted them.

by BrianL on Jan 7, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be ok, but Conan deserves better.

I wonder what would have happened if NBC had given Leno the boot and given the Tonight show to Letterman like they planned.

by Poochie on Jan 7, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

The Late Show probably would have failed with a different host

and the Tonight Show would have one less competitor. Maybe even none at all if other networks were scared off.

by BrianL on Jan 7, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Jay Leno is a talking slice of white bread with mayonnaise on it

He would ruin a Top Gear-type show, which depends on a sense of humor that has an edge that Jay Leno just does not possess.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

He came and did a live show when I was in undergrad.

This was just around the time The Aristocrats came out, and most people weren’t aware of what he really is. Then he basically came out, sang some dirty songs, got heckled by one douchebag, spent 30 minutes destroying the heckler, and left us all dying. Also, a bunch of girls pelted him with tampons.

by abender20 on Jan 7, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't watch. Stupid work.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

A friend helped me "discover" that on Thanksgiving

Yesh!

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Jan 7, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Still my ringtone!

My kid now sings the song whenever my phone rings, and he even makes songs about random stuff set to the tune of Get on my Horse. So awesome

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jan 8, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Question for the masses:

I’m interested in upgrading the soundsystem in my car. Not looking to do anything fancy. I’m looking at replacing the factory deck with something with more power (something along the lines of 45Wx4 or 50Wx4) and replacing the speakers (2×6.5″, and 2×5.25″ speakers for the doors). My question is: do I need to get an amp, or will the deck be powerful enough to power the new speakers by itself?

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 7, 2010 2:28 PM PST reply actions  

This was nearly 10 years ago and I'm no expert,

But I replaced the entire sound system in my old car with a (I think) 40- or 45-watt Panasonic deck, 4.5-inch Infinity tweeters in the front and Sony Xplod 6×9s in the back, and I never needed an amp. It was nothing super fancy, and it wasn’t loud enough to impress high school girls a half-mile away, but it worked great for what I needed. The Xplod speakers weren’t mind-blowing for bass, but they weren’t bad either. And too much bass annoys me anyway. Getting good tweeters in the front was incredible, though. I need my highs.

by Teej on Jan 7, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's all I care about. I just want nice sound, and speakers that don't rattle.

I’m not even planning on getting a sub-woofer.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 7, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I've never owned a sub. And I listen to bass-heavy music.

I just wanted clean sound. The only other thing I’d recommend is staying away from the cheapest speakers. Spend a little extra on a brand you’ve heard of. Rattling is the worst.

by Teej on Jan 7, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

But since I'm not exactly sure of the wattages, I'm probably of little help.

I imagine an amp would have been nice, but the marginal difference wasn’t worth it for a broke 19-year-old.

by Teej on Jan 7, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I can never understand how people can stand high tones more than lows.

That may just be because the music I listen to have so many high tones that if my EQ for the highs is up I can’t concentrate on the actual music though.

by Kirk on Jan 7, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

The deck will technically be powerful enough, but you won't regret getting the separate amp.

Also, run new wiring when you upgrade the speakers, most cars use the thinnest wiring they can find and you’ll end up shorting something when the heat makes your wires fail on a pinch point. You don’t need to get the expensive stuff, even the radioshack 18G crap wire is a giant upgrade over the 24G factory stuff.

That being said, if you like your factory stereo, just the amp+speakers will blow your mind compared to factory speakers.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Amps are amazingly expensive, so I was hoping to do not go that route if possible.

I’ve also heard putting bass blockers on the wiring will be a great help, and it sound pretty inexpensive as well.

The main reason I want to upgrade the deck is that it’s a six-disc changer, and I don’t really listen to CD’s anymore. I’d like one with an auxiliary input for my mp3 player, and probably Bluetooth capability, but that’s not a necessity.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 7, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Bass blockers are not really needed for heads that have an adjustable crossover.

Because you can just set your XO point to the next step over your speaker’s lowest point, and it get you to the same endpoint. All bass blockers really do is run over a capacitor and reduce the volume under the block point on a curve until 0DB.

And like I said, it’ll make an improvement, but even just replacing the head+speakers will give you a huge upgrade so whatever you do on top is gravy.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya you don't need the amp or new wiring.

Both of those will make it even better but you’ll be impressed by the change.

by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 7, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll have to disagree with you here Scruff.

You’ll get great sound at first, but the heat involved in moving from ~4W RMS to ~20W RMS is huge, and heat breaks down wires over time, especially where the wire moves like in a car door. Most cars I’ve done for friends where s/he didn’t want to pay the extra to buy wire has come back to me with a shorted out speaker in a door panel a year or so down the road.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably explains my shorted out front left speaker actually.

It probably makes a difference in car models because I’ve never had a problem with any of my older benz’s but my blazer burned out in month.

by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 7, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah build cost and initial quality make a huge difference.

I usually go by that most people that have crappy stereos they want to upgrade usually don’t have the most expensive cars ever.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Double wording... maybe it's time to skip out of work.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Much easier to do when you have everything pulled apart to install the head and speakers!

Honestly though, running rear cable sucks compared to front in most cases, and the fronts are what will give you the most sound problems, so you can probably get away with only doing fronts.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 7, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Does anybody else get really bored on a day off and turn their GPS onto simulator mode

Then program it drive to some far away place that you want to go to and watch it while imagining you are actually driving?

by Robert on Jan 7, 2010 2:38 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I don't have a GPS

But I have on several occasions done something similar with Google Earth. If I see a dot while “flying over”, I zoom in and check it out. There are a lot of crazy places on this rock…

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Jan 7, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

That is one hell of a good idea.

Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.

p.s. fuck you angels

by InSpokane on Jan 7, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

We are only 5 years from the FUTURE! that was hyped up in BACK TO THE FUTURE 2!

I was reminded of this yesterday. The future with hoverboards, flying cars, self cleaning clothes, etc is only 5 years away.
Also in 2015, the Cubs win the World Series beating the Miami Gators.

Anyone else find this a crazy thought?

by mark sobba on Jan 7, 2010 4:04 PM PST reply actions  

Except I feel 1984 was largely allegorical

and the technology was really not what was important. It’s more entertaining to see technologies from the past “futures.”

Speaking of, Blade Runner is only 10 years away.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jan 7, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember the first time I figured out how old I'd be in the year 2000

it blew my then 9-year-old mind. Now the thought that one of the projects I just started working on won’t be complete until 2020 just makes me go OH MY GOD THAT’S ONLY 20 YEARS AWAY.

by pdb on Jan 7, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm hoping that the Cubs play the Rays in Interleague

and that they do some kind of weird Alternate Reality Uniform game.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 8, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm great at reading threads.

To be fair, I thought of this yesterday but didn’t post it because I was at work, and unlike some people around here, I have integrity.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 8, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Naw, I'm just bustin' on you.

No harm meant.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 8, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't even have 3,000

but on the other hand I go to too many games to participate in a lot of game threads.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 8, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I used to always be at work - at least this season..

and the computer I had was barely strong enough to run the MLB TV broadcast, much less a 1000+ game thread.

Now I work normal hours though – so look out GTs!

by seattlesundevil on Jan 8, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

To answer a question in the original post

That nobody here seems to have addressed…

I don’t think I can swing a drink before, but maybe after, depending on the person I’ll be showing up with….

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Jan 7, 2010 5:02 PM PST reply actions  

So I'm taking an accredited sabermetrics course as an elective starting tomorrow

The instructor’s a huge baseball fan (he told people not to sign up for the class unless they love baseball) and holds a doctorate in math, but when I went in to talk to him today he’d never heard of pitch f/x or even Fangraphs… sigh.

by Fett42 on Jan 7, 2010 6:25 PM PST reply actions  

At least it will be a really, really easy class

and he might get credit for inventing some new stats

by seattlebruin on Jan 7, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

So what's the LL consensus on

this movie? (If you’ve seen it)

by .Taylor on Jan 7, 2010 8:46 PM PST reply actions  

Same here

Except katal just downplayed it. So I’m having major second thoughts, as any rational being would. In fact, I now think it is lame.

by .Taylor on Jan 7, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Extremely disappointing.

The premise was intriguing, but plot-wise, it fell flat. From the previews, it looked really good, but instead of fulfilling that potential, it started meh and got worse and worse.

So sort of the Yuni of movies, I guess.

by I Lick Squirrels on Jan 7, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Poor Royals

SIgning a speedy outfielder. Presumably Scott Podsednik. Can’t blame them, with Tugger and Olivo ditching them, their former Mariner count was perilously low.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jan 7, 2010 10:40 PM PST reply actions  

Holmgren already workin' his magic...

Cribbs: Future with Browns ‘unlikely’

I really don’t care cause I’m not a Hawks fan, but I thought y’all would get a kick out of this. There’s nothing like wildly pissing off your best and most popular player, to the point where he’s almost certain to leave, to kick of your rein.

by SethGrandpa on Jan 8, 2010 3:04 AM PST reply actions  

As it turns out, John Olerud might not have sucked

Who knew?

This comment slayed me.

Rickey says:
January 8, 2010 at 10:53 am
Dude wore a helmet in the field, just like a guy I played with on the Mets. I say put him in the Hall for that.

by PDXTai on Jan 8, 2010 8:43 AM PST reply actions  

I love that story and still tell it every chance I get.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 8, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I went to re-read the story....

Wikipedia says it ain’t so Joe!

One widely reported story was a fabrication that began as a clubhouse joke made by a visiting player. While playing for Seattle in 2000, Henderson was said to have commented on first baseman John Olerud’s practice of wearing a batting helmet while playing defense, noting that a former teammate in Toronto did the same thing. Olerud was reported to have replied, “That was me.” The two men had been together the previous season with the 1999 Mets, as well as with the 1993 World Champion Blue Jays. Several news outlets originally reported the story as fact.

I feel like I just found out that Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny aren’t real.
I don’t want to live in a world where Rickey isn’t Rickey.

by PDXTai on Jan 8, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

An update to the Conan thing: Leno gets 11:35-12:00, Conan gets 12:05-1:00

I’d guess Fallon then just starts at 1:05…That’s….really stupid.

by BrettJMiller on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST reply actions  

Not sure if anything has changed, but from the NYT last night:
But there are many possible complications, including the possibility that Mr. O’Brien could be offered an earlier slot at a different network, most likely the Fox network. Mr. O’Brien’s representatives reported that they continued to negotiate with NBC late Thursday evening.
Mr. O’Brien faces a more unpalatable choice: accept a demotion to 12 a.m. and stay on NBC, or leave for another network, thereby breaking his lucrative contract with NBC.
The exact terms of Mr. O’Brien’s contract are not known, but he is rumored to have built into the deal he made five years ago to stay at NBC a guarantee that he would host "The Tonight Show" or NBC would owe a penalty of as much as $45 million. If his show continues to be called "The Tonight Show," NBC may not be in breach of his contract, which could compel Mr. O’Brien to stay at NBC even if another network makes him an offer.

by Teej on Jan 8, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Word

Plus it would be hilarious if Leno retired within a few years and they were left with nothing

by Poochie on Jan 8, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

What a putrid lineup.

But who knows, Fallon may become the next Conan. It took Conan 3 years to be funny.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Jan 9, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Fallon has had a lot of time to try to be funny.

Fallon is a chucklehead. He seems like an honestly nice guy who really likes his guests and all that, but he’s just not funny.

by abender20 on Jan 9, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

That and Fallon has been on tv for years

It shouldn’t take him 3 years to find his stride

by Poochie on Jan 9, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I think so.

Was he a bad coach, or is he the cliche scapegoat for a team’s poor performance?

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Jan 8, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Depends on who replaces him.

I was so happy Hargrove was gone. And then I learned the horror that was McLaren. Mora wasn’t a great coach, but there are much worse out there.

I hear Jim Zorn is available and has some Seattle ties…

by PDXTai on Jan 8, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Is Pete Carroll that bad?

Not being facetious, a real question.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 8, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

His stint with the Patriots did not go well.

Carroll seems to be much better suited to being a college coach than a pro coach.

The experiment of taking the hot college coach and moving them up to the pros has had mixed results. I wouldn’t consider Carroll a step up from Mora. Maybe even a step down.

by PDXTai on Jan 8, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Aha. I don't know enough about football to gauge that sort of stuff.

I just figured it was a USC thing.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 8, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Caveat: I have no idea why Robert is freaking out.

It could involve his reproductive capacity and a killer whale for all I know.

by PDXTai on Jan 8, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm just wondering if he's learned something over the last period of time at USC

that would benefit him/the Seahawks.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 8, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd guess no.

Coaching the pro game is very, very different from the college game. Carroll’s strength is his recruiting which won’t help him in the pros. I’d say it’s much more likely that the game has passed him by while he’s been at USC.

by PDXTai on Jan 8, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

SEAHAWKS INTERESTED IN CARROLL

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES ES YES YES YES YES

by seattlebruin on Jan 8, 2010 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

I can't believe you want Robert dead.
I AM GOING TO KILL MYSELF
by Robert on Jan 8, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 8, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair,

Only 11 of those were threats to kill himself, two of those were a repeat.
Out of the ten remaining, three were conditional – One for someone to buy him a Ljundberg Away kit (which could still happen), for the Sounders to get three points (which didn’t happen), and for him to “suck Felix hard before he retires” (which won’t happen but we won’t see the ROI for many years).
That leaves him 0/8.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 8, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

That should be phrased as "one of those was a repeat".

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 8, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

You were laughing earlier today.

People who laugh don’t kill themselves. Fact.

by Kirk on Jan 8, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not that good.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 8, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

But maybe I should get an agent.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 8, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not above wearing two shades of blue at the same time.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 8, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't believe how awesome the google live search is.

I used it to look up the Seahawks stuff, and you get a constantly updating twitter feed of the search term, along with the news articles as they pop up. This might be my go-to when the draft comes around.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 8, 2010 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

I recently discovered the MLB's best series on iTunes

and I have to say my favorite thing about the 2004 Cardinals is that Albert Pujols was the third best player on the team.

by Poochie on Jan 8, 2010 2:42 PM PST reply actions  

I love how the shit river keeps flowing from the Seahawks.

First, signing a motherfucking PUNTER to a 6 year, $9MM contract…and now mothergoddamnfucking Pete Carroll is our head coach.

Kill me now, please.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 8, 2010 3:30 PM PST reply actions  

Adblock plus, Web of Trust.

WOT has saved my ass so many times from opening a sketchy website.

by Kermit. on Jan 8, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe worth mentioning, I run a G-5 Mac with OSX 10.6.? and had to strip down the add-ons.

Some have functions that run in the background and they were seriously bogging me down. Biggest culprits were a weather update for the tool bar, and an add on for google search. Can’t remember the name of either.

by Kermit. on Jan 9, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Adblock Plus

Flashblock
Download Statusbar
FoxyURL
FetchText URL
DownThemAll
BetterGmail2 (if you use Gmail)

by pdb on Jan 8, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Though most of the good ones have been mentioned,

I’m sad that nobody has brought up Tab Mix Plus. Gives you total control of your tabs, and is so awesome. Pretty much the only thing keeping me from going 100% Google Chrome at this point

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jan 8, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

In addition to some of the ones already mentioned

CustomizeGoogle
DownloadHelper
Farkode and Farky(If you browse Fark.com)
FEBE
PDF Download

A Few Hail Zduriencik!

by Goose on Jan 9, 2010 7:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Morosi is saying LaHair to Cubs on MLC and ST invite

Last straw for Z? LaHair was the next poor man’s Dave Hansen.

by edddgar on Jan 9, 2010 10:14 AM PST reply actions  

True story.

Earlier this week, my mom and dad were having a nice dinner with my dad’s old partner from work and his wife at some Italian restaurant. As my dad was retelling how he met my mom and how they moved out to the Northwest, my dad’s old partner interrupts him: “Hey, wait, isn’t it your anniversary TODAY?”
“Oh, Christ, I think it is!”
BOTH my parents forgot their anniversary this year!

by Decatur on Jan 9, 2010 2:32 PM PST reply actions  

I've been waiting for hours for news.

I heard Jack was there. But figured we’d have to be patient until a thread tomorrow.

by wazzu93 on Jan 9, 2010 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

He's smart, he hires smart people, he and his smart people explore every angle possible to make a better team.

He’s a beautiful man and waxing ecstatic may not be the most attractive trait ever, but in a nutshell? I want to have 10,000 of his babies. There, I said it.

by Kermit. on Jan 10, 2010 1:32 AM PST up reply actions  

It was my first USS Mariner event

And I couldn’t have had a better time. I was giggling like a little school girl the entire time.

Did you fall in love with Miguel Batista? And he rejected you?

by melenious on Jan 10, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Who has heard "Album" by Girls?

Because it’s killer.

The Hawks should be better.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Jan 10, 2010 12:10 AM PST reply actions  

ESPN.com currently has the most ridiculous poll ever up on the front page...

How far will the Cowboys go after a convincing win over the Eagles in the NFC Wild Card game?

[ ]Reach NFC Championship Game
[ ]Reach Super Bowl

Those are the only two options.

Uhhh….apparently the Vikings have decided to forfeit or something.

by SethGrandpa on Jan 10, 2010 12:15 AM PST reply actions  

Holy fuck Avatar sucks

Visuals were awesome, but I could not stand anything else in the move. Had no idea it was that god damn long either. I knew it was long, but what the fuck?

by edddgar on Jan 10, 2010 1:57 AM PST reply actions  

I thought it was very good.

Long movies don’t bother me (I think American movies are often too short) and while the story was predictable, all movies are predictable.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Jan 10, 2010 2:09 AM PST up reply actions  

The reviews seemed to state otherwise

Maybe I just had my hopes set too high. Like I said, visuals were awesome, but everything else in the movie sucked. The story was predictable, cliched, and dumb and just kept dragging on with unnecessary scenes.

by edddgar on Jan 11, 2010 2:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes. I completely agree.

God, I felt so alone in my dislike for Avatar (excruciating dialogue, comical absence of any moral complexity/dilemma for the protagonist) until BrianL wrote that.

by Decatur on Jan 11, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, Last Samurai was absolutely racist.

I wasn’t wild about that aspect of Avatar but

a) At least he was a trained soldier that was supposed to be one of the best.
b) He didn’t do it AS a white person.
c) It didn’t preach as much as most of those other movies do.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Jan 11, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

It was the preachiest movie ever.

It may not have felt as preachy solely because the writers didn’t think much of the audience.

“How are we going to demonstrate the connection the na’vi have to their environment? They could talk more about their philosophy, I guess.”

“Naaah, no one’s gonna get that. Why don’t we demonstrate their connection to nature by having them connect to nature with their connectors? Huh? It’s a hidden-in-plain-sight thing.”

“GENIUS!”

Again, I’ll say that I had a pretty good time and that it was gorgeous. But porn has better dialogue, and that was as shallow a portrait of a society as you’re liable to see.

by marc w on Jan 11, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

3D porn sounds amazing.

And I’m not even that big on porn.

Now Playing at IMAX – Debbie Does The Mars Rover in 3D

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 12, 2010 5:02 AM PST up reply actions  

HD porn was bad enough, no need for 3D

Really. Stretch marks, razor burns, and all that showed up bright and clear in HD; the last thing porn needs is MORE video fidelity.

Or so I’m told.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2010 6:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course.

I had heard about all this from a friend as well.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 12, 2010 7:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Rule 34!

It’s only a matter of time…

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Jan 12, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I meant preacy about the white dude helping out.

Last Samurai highlighted his race as though it was the reason he was so successful. Avatar was preachy but more about random environmental things than the fact that the dude was a white male.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Jan 11, 2010 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

So...anyone have any (kosher) thoughts and observations about the USSM/LL meetup?

I’m dying dying dying to hear something about it, and I suspect most who couldn’t make it are as well.

by Decatur on Jan 10, 2010 8:47 AM PST reply actions  

I would like to say one thing to everybody that was at the event.

TURN OFF YOUR FUCKING CELL PHONES OR PUT THEM ON MUTE!

There was at least 3 different instances where cell phones went off in the middle of the whole thing. Not to mention that there was somebody that was sitting near where I was and their cellphone kept vibrating very loudly for almost half of the event.

Very very annoying and very rude.

A Few Hail Zduriencik!

by Goose on Jan 10, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that was getting to me after a while.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 11, 2010 12:05 AM PST up reply actions  

It was a little annoying

I liked when Kermit was making fun of the noise and then turned around and saw a quadraplegic with a breather tube. I flipped him all kinds of shit for that one, that insensitive prick

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jan 11, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Dammit so much for not ever bringing that up.

That was really embarrassing, I should know better than to speak before looking. Guy was just there for the show.

by Kermit. on Jan 11, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

What was he going to do about it anyways, right?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 11, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I had some observations and pictures posted

But no details, as per the usual agreement. :/

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Jan 10, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I wanted to say hi but I chickened out!

I was standing next to you in the restroom line. Next time, I’ll grow some figurative balls and do so.

Did you fall in love with Miguel Batista? And he rejected you?

by melenious on Jan 10, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

No way.

I was on the other side. Short, asian girl with the old school M’s track jacket.

Did you fall in love with Miguel Batista? And he rejected you?

by melenious on Jan 10, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

HA!

Figures.
I gotta say, I’m kind of a social retard. I’m trying to get better at just talking to people, but I haven’t gotten over that just yet. Plus, I was feeling a little out of sorts due to a light hangover and what is now apparently a head cold.
I think a bunch of us are going to FanFest, though, to sit and listen to the Q&A parts of the day. And eat lots of hot dogs.

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Jan 10, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

See?

I said it at the time.

Nametags.

or a secret handshake.

by msb on Jan 10, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

We had nametags last year, didn't we?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 10, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

For some reason

I remember tags at the library…but now I can’t remember for sure.

The problem being of course, walking around with your username on a name tag seems kind of…weird.

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Jan 10, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

So you put your real name on there too?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 10, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

Me too. Without the usernames (or people putting their actual photos here for avatars), it did me no good. In fact, I think I walked out of there knowing FEWER people, if that’s possible.

All kidding aside, I suppose this would work, but it’s just a matter of whether or not people want to do it, really.

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Jan 11, 2010 6:04 AM PST up reply actions  

But what if you tried handshaking someone who didn't know?

Or, what happened to us yesterday while looking for acblue: I saw a guy that I thought looked like him from a distance, and as the fellow and his friend passed us, Brandon jumped out at him and said “Are you the guy?!”

He was not. :/

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Jan 10, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Kind of?

He was taller, and I only looked at your MySpace photos once – I kept telling Brandon to look for a tall guy with a guitar strapped to him. We walked past some dude with facial scruff, and I knew when we got closer that it wasn’t you, but it was too late to stop Brandon…

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Jan 11, 2010 6:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure there will be a post up at some point with pictures and general stuff.

But you aren’t going to really get any details on what was said. It’s part of the reason why we’re allowed to do these things.

A Few Hail Zduriencik!

by Goose on Jan 10, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

And, really?

With this front office, it is not as though they would spill the beans on anything truly earth-shattering :)

by msb on Jan 10, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

But until that post comes, here are my general observations:

1.I’m always amazed at how big something like this has gotten. I mean jesus, at the first LL meetup at Cheney about 5 years ago I think there was about 8 of us. Yesterday there was between 500-600.

2.The standing ovation for Z and company when they first walked out was almost two full minutes long. On that note, the once wrestling fan in me thinks they should of had entrance music when they first walked out. It would of been awesome.

3.I got the feeling that the new guy they brought with them wasn’t really comfortable speaking in front of such a large crowd.

4.It was cool to meet Kermit and tootthekazoo(and a few others I can’t remember).

5. As somebody who is not from the Seattle area and is not even remotely familiar with the layout of the area, I really like the Benaroya Hall. It was really easy to find right off the highway and it was really easy to get back on the highway.

6. You can tell who is comfortable speaking in front of large groups and who isn’t among the mod group. Derek and Matthew seemed very at ease with it. Dave did as well, but he still talks pretty fast(though he is getting better). Jeff mumbled alot and Graham barely spoke at all.

7.Jack Z seems like a guy who can tell great stories.

8. I suppose my only real “complaint” about the whole thing, besides the cell phone issue, was that it seemed kinda short. I was a little surprised when Dave started talking about wrapping it up.

9. The one detail I will give is that there was a dude there with a Zduriencik jersey in the first row. At the end of the whole thing, Z shook hands with pretty much everybody in the first row and he gave that guy a big hug. It was awesome.

All and all the whole thing was a blast as usual.

A Few Hail Zduriencik!

by Goose on Jan 10, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember that.

The early LL meetups at Cheney I mean. I made it to the second one and I think it was Jeff, Devin, you and a few other people.

There were also the USSM meet-ups that were in elementary school cafeterias and held about 50 people if that, so….

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 10, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh I never expected details. I actually love our tight-lipped front office.

It’s like sweet agony how they don’t reveal many things. I just was looking for a general sense of it and it’s awesomeness. :)

by wazzu93 on Jan 10, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Fight Club rules.
I took a few photos, but there isn’t a whole lot of action to get. I wish I would have had the camera out while Jeff was stealth-chairing, but I did not.

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Jan 10, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

To disprove the racist accusations!

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Jan 10, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

NBC just confirmed that Jay Leno is moving back to 11:35

Conan to 12:05, Fallon to 1:05.

How long before Conan jumps to another network?

by BrianL on Jan 10, 2010 6:10 PM PST reply actions  

A lot will depend on how Conan's contract is interpreted

If moving him to 12:05 can be considered a breach, NBC is on the hook even if he walks.

by BrianL on Jan 10, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that as long as they continue calling it "The Tonight Show" then Conan is boned

I’ve been hearing that the contract is all about being the Tonight Show host so that he’d be protected. Unfortunately, I have no clue if that also restricts the time slot being changed

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jan 10, 2010 11:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I've heard conflicting things.

Conan’s lawyers will no doubt try and argue that The Tonight Show isn’t really The Tonight Show if it’s airing at 12:05.

Something else I’ve heard is that there’s a contract provision that allows Conan to walk and still make the same amount of money. For example, of Conan is owed $20 million per year by NBC and he leaves the network to sign a $15 million per year contract with FOX, NBC would be on the hook for the remaining $5 million.

That seems absurd, but if it were true and I were Conan, I’d sign a $1 per year contract with FOX and leave NBC to pay the remaining $19,999,999 to host a show on a different network.

by BrianL on Jan 10, 2010 11:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Poochie's idea of a total failure scenario for NBC.

Conan walks and Jay retires in a small handful of years, leaving them with Jimmy Fallon.

by BrianL on Jan 10, 2010 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

My favorite part of this:

The 10PM news did a bunch of ManOnTheStreet™ interviews about this, and after the first two douchey looking guys said they loved Leno and they were glad he’s back (one described him as ‘hilarious’), the other 4 people said they like Conan better.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 11, 2010 7:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Hello!

A good question; I don’t really know. I mean, the stock answer is 90s Modest Mouse, but that’s not quite similar. But get the joint single MM/764-HERO did together called “Whenever You See Fit.” Easily one of the best songs of the 90s. EASILY.
764-Hero barely made an album in this decade, however. If you really like John Atkins’ songwriting, he was in a few other projects. One that released some music was The Magic Magicians. Another project with Spencer Moody from the Murder City Devils was called the John and Spencer Booze Explosion. Last one (may still be going?) was The Can’t See, who were great the one time I saw them, though that was probably 3-4 years ago now.

royalcurve, what would your answer be?

by marc w on Jan 11, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Same as yours.

I agree on the MM/764 single, which is incredible. I’d also get the Hush Harbor 10" and anything by Lync.

by royalcurve on Jan 11, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I love that song so much, but it's so tinged with sadness

Because I once played it non-stop for a day after a beloved pet died. :(
:(

It got me through the day though. I’m going to listen to it tonight with a really nice glass of wine. God, I can hear the opening few bars in my head, and it’s going to bother me that I don’t have it at work.

by marc w on Jan 11, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Noooooo!

It’s so sad!
I miss that little fella.
:(

breakdown part is maybe not as sad? Tell the truth, whenever you go wrong. WAKE up early and you live to regret.
Nooooo the return! Gah, so sad, but I must pour some wine out for all the pets I’ve loved and lost.
I love that the last line is “everythings fine.”

by marc w on Jan 11, 2010 8:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Alright, thanks Marc.

It looks like I’m about 10-15 years behind on the Seattle indie scene.

by Mariner John on Jan 11, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

SPOILER ALERT

the Fastbacks broke up. :-(

by pdb on Jan 11, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

No, but Team Dresch is still.... awwww, man!

You could always go for Sleater-Kinney wha? No?

by marc w on Jan 11, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Now, that is a name I have not heard

In a long, long time…

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Jan 11, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to have a bit of the jeans he ripped up on stage

Hanging in my room. Yes, men’s jeans-shards meant something to me. And somehow I was surprised everyone thought I was gay.

by marc w on Jan 11, 2010 8:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

Fred jeans!

A friend of mine thinks they should have Fred’s ladder on display at EMP. I can’t disagree.

by royalcurve on Jan 11, 2010 11:05 PM PST up reply actions  

This is excellent

I lost my shit during the pasta one

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jan 10, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I completely love this.

This is staying open all day, and I’m going to give people compliments with it here at work.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 11, 2010 5:23 AM PST up reply actions  

EEEK!

WOW! There’s a fucking BUNNY ON IT!!!

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Jan 11, 2010 6:08 AM PST up reply actions  

One less Damon suitor

Huff near deal with Giants

I really hope the Yankees choose to move on to other options, so the market for Damon is hilariously limited and he gets something in the realm of 1 yr/$4-5 M.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jan 10, 2010 9:05 PM PST reply actions  

Holy crap.

Fox Sports Radio is really bad.

by msb on Jan 10, 2010 9:06 PM PST reply actions  

Anybody want two tickets for UA/OSU basketball in Corvallis this Thursday night?

We can’t use ours and will sell them for face value ($25 each). I don’t have them in front of me right now but I believe they’re in section B2, not sure which row – if you’re interested my email’s in my profile, I can get you detailed ticket information when I get home tonight.

by pdb on Jan 11, 2010 1:51 PM PST reply actions  

Why would anyone possibly want to watch Pac-10 basketball this year?

It’s literally the worst major conference in the history of time.

by SethGrandpa on Jan 11, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

DON'T DEPRESS MY RESALE VALUE WITH YOUR FACTS

(this is not why we’re selling the tickets! Pac-10 basketball is awesome! So is Corvallis! Really!)

by pdb on Jan 11, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I found that absolutely astonishing.

I assumed he’d spend at least 2 minutes of that song riding the bike on the sideline.

by abender20 on Jan 11, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Baseball Question!

RE:Park Factors

When adjusting something like wRC, are park factors applied only to home games or to all games during the season. And, if only to home games, is it assumed that all away games are created equal once averaged?

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Jan 11, 2010 4:54 PM PST reply actions  

Hey Graham, Matthew, or Jeff

Can we get a new rumor thread up. The last one’s kind of buried. a.k.a. Is it ok if I post one now, or should I wait for someone else more, shall we say, experienced to post it?

Avatars make the site look pretty. I still don't have one.

by perfectstrat on Jan 11, 2010 8:29 PM PST reply actions  

Spiderman 4 is officialy dead.

Raimi is out, Macguire is out, Dunst is out.

The weird part of this story is that Sony is now planning a reboot. This makes no sense to me. Why would you bother rebooting a franchise when it’s only about 8 years old? Nobody wants to sit through yet another “origin story”, so why bother?

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Jan 11, 2010 10:33 PM PST reply actions  

Not just a reboot

It’s going to be teenage Spiderman…..

by OlSalty on Jan 11, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Jesus.

There’s so many great stories about Adult Spiderman they can crib from; why bother with the teenage storylines?

It’s like the studios looked at the success of Batman Begins and said, “let’s just reboot our franchises just because it happened to work one time” while ignoring that Batman Begins worked because it was done by a creative storyteller who respected the source material and gave the fans what they wanted.

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Jan 11, 2010 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

NBC doesn't deserve him.

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Jan 12, 2010 12:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm ready to take the plunge and buy my first Mariners jersey.

Could I get some suggestions? White or dark alternate? Player?

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2010 9:46 AM PST reply actions  

Good suggestion.

I think I’m down to choosing between a dark alternate Guti or a dark alternate Ichiro.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay I can't get a Guti

but I can get a dark alternate Ichiro.

Next question, Seahawks jersey?

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Walter Jones

or if you like old school, Cortez Kennedy.

by Jed MC on Jan 12, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm holding off on a Jones jersey for a little while.

I was debating whether or not to get a Carlson jersey, but I don’t want to encroach on Robert’s territory.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Now that I have mine others are free to get their own.

In the past I threw a intoxicated temper tantrum when a friend thought about jumping ahead of me to get one.

by Robert on Jan 12, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

You'll be shocked to know there are really big discounts at the team store right now.

I went before xmas and was amazed at the prices. The disaffected guy at the counter told me to come back after New Years with a wheelbarrow.

I’d go with someone young that has a good shot at being with the team for a while. Mebane? Curry might be a good choice, but it would also make it so much worse if he never figures it out.

by waldo rojas on Jan 12, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Another quick suggestion

do I need to be aware of anything regarding sizing?

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Sol's back!

I don’t know if he’s any good any more, especially after his Notts County experiment, but at the moment Arsenal need all the help they can get so Sol Campbell playing a reserve game tonight with an eye towards making the senior squad is good news. I think.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2010 10:35 AM PST reply actions  

I should explain that the reason why I flipped out the way that I did was because I thought that Carroll was going to be granted God powers over the franchise

I love Pete Carroll more than any other non-Seattle coach and it would hurt twice as much to see the team struggle and for me to start hating him. I’m glad that the Hawks are going all out with this but I really hope they aren’t being too bold.

by Robert on Jan 12, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I hear you.

I am definitely relieved that Carroll isn’t going to be the grand overlord of football operations. At this point I’m mildly excited to see what he’s going to do with the coaching staff, schemes etc.

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Yo, pdb

You were asking a while back about woot.com’s blog feed. You wanted to have a feed of their products, but not all the bullshit that goes along with subscribing to their blog via RSS.

This Firefox add-on may be your solution. I haven’t tested it out yet, but it looks like it delivers their product information, and none of their blog posts.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 12, 2010 11:49 AM PST reply actions  

Good find!

i’ll install it and let you know how it works out.

by pdb on Jan 12, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Conan's mad.
People of Earth:

In the last few days, I’ve been getting a lot of sympathy calls, and I want to start by making it clear that no one should waste a second feeling sorry for me. For 17 years, I’ve been getting paid to do what I love most and, in a world with real problems, I’ve been absurdly lucky. That said, I’ve been suddenly put in a very public predicament and my bosses are demanding an immediate decision.

Six years ago, I signed a contract with NBC to take over The Tonight Show in June of 2009. Like a lot of us, I grew up watching Johnny Carson every night and the chance to one day sit in that chair has meant everything to me. I worked long and hard to get that opportunity, passed up far more lucrative offers, and since 2004 I have spent literally hundreds of hours thinking of ways to extend the franchise long into the future. It was my mistaken belief that, like my predecessor, I would have the benefit of some time and, just as important, some degree of ratings support from the prime-time schedule. Building a lasting audience at 11:30 is impossible without both.

But sadly, we were never given that chance. After only seven months, with my Tonight Show in its infancy, NBC has decided to react to their terrible difficulties in prime-time by making a change in their long-established late night schedule.

Last Thursday, NBC executives told me they intended to move the Tonight Show to 12:05 to accommodate the Jay Leno Show at 11:35. For 60 years the Tonight Show has aired immediately following the late local news. I sincerely believe that delaying the Tonight Show into the next day to accommodate another comedy program will seriously damage what I consider to be the greatest franchise in the history of broadcasting. The Tonight Show at 12:05 simply isn’t the Tonight Show. Also, if I accept this move I will be knocking the Late Night show, which I inherited from David Letterman and passed on to Jimmy Fallon, out of its long-held time slot. That would hurt the other NBC franchise that I love, and it would be unfair to Jimmy.

So it has come to this: I cannot express in words how much I enjoy hosting this program and what an enormous personal disappointment it is for me to consider losing it. My staff and I have worked unbelievably hard and we are very proud of our contribution to the legacy of The Tonight Show. But I cannot participate in what I honestly believe is its destruction. Some people will make the argument that with DVRs and the Internet a time slot doesn’t matter. But with the Tonight Show, I believe nothing could matter more.

There has been speculation about my going to another network but, to set the record straight, I currently have no other offer and honestly have no idea what happens next. My hope is that NBC and I can resolve this quickly so that my staff, crew, and I can do a show we can be proud of, for a company that values our work.

Have a great day and, for the record, I am truly sorry about my hair; it’s always been that way.

Yours,

Conan

Source

by BrianL on Jan 12, 2010 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

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