Adrian Beltre in Boston
by Matthew on Jan 4, 2010 5:08 PM PST
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PrintI figure y'all would like a place to go nuts. So have it.
Adrian Beltre is all but signed with Boston, for one year between $9-10 million with apparently some absurdly comical player option for 2011 which he'll never exercise unless something insane happens.
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I wonder if the option is designed solely to lower Beltre’s luxury tax number. I have no idea how options gets figured into that.
We'll miss you Beltre
I know this has all been done before, but here is my final goodbye to Adrian Beltre. May the Boston fans have as much fun watching Beltre make jaw dropping defensive spectacles as we did the last few years.
Fuck. Fuck fuckity fuck fuck.
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It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
I hope he bangs 50 doubles off the monster.
Good luck, Adrian. Loved you while you were here.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Yeah I guess I was pretty much stating the obvious.
Just trying to promote a little speculation and conversation.
Since my problem with Boston is with a large chunk of their fanbase and not the team itself I have no problem with this
except that it’s hard to see him go at all.
Almost every team I have a problem with, it's because of their fanbase rather than the team itself.
I’m going to see a pink Beltre or Cameron jersey this summer and it will make me cry.
One of my favorite TV moments (before I even knew who Red was)
The expression on his face when he got Beltre’s bat…priceless.
How long into the season will it be until ESPN or SI produces an article declaring Beltre back after his "terrible" years in Seattle?
And Mike Cameron is a Sock, too.
Dammit dammit dammit. Hate hate hate. Hell!
by katal on Jan 4, 2010 5:17 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Okay so..
When we move Lopez to first, and Chone to 2nd.. do we bring Tui to play 3b?
Fuck you boston.
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
But it is better than disneyland
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
He may not have the arm and Chone is better.
by Kirk on Jan 4, 2010 5:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
It seems that 2B is more important, and having a better fielder there would be more important.
Thoughts?
Neither move happens in a vacuum.
Lopez is an averageish 2b, Figgins is a 5<x<10 3b. Switching the two would likely have an adverse effect on both players, defensively.
Figgins is good at 3B, Lopez is fine at 2B, the two positions are roughly equal
Nobody is getting moved. The infield is set.
So the M's are forgoing signing a 1B and going with Carp?
by eponymous_coward on Jan 4, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
OK, yeah.
Loafie going to 1B is just kinda… uh…no.
by eponymous_coward on Jan 4, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
Yes he is but that's not important right now.
Also, bye Beltre. I’ll miss you, you retarded man.
by Kirk on Jan 4, 2010 5:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I LOVE YOU ADRIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please don’t stay in Boston long, I don’t want to be forced to like the Red Sox for more than a year.
My Mariners blog - SodoMojo, Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!
I have a red sock shirt I am willing to burn in effigy.
by katal on Jan 4, 2010 5:28 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
And post a video or .gif or something so we can all live vicariously through you!
Say it with me: Washington Capitals. Capitals.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997
Clearly this deal couldn't possibly make more sense
Which is why I fucking hate it
I'd rather know a little about a lot than a lot about a little
Yes, fuck the Mariners winning one. Those chowderheads should get another championship
because they signed Beltre.
by eponymous_coward on Jan 4, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
All I'm saying is if th mariners are out and
Jags? Playoffs?? 2009???
by JamMasterJesus on Jan 4, 2010 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
Holy shit...
All I’m saying is if the Mariners are out of the playoffs, and Boston is in, I’ll have something to root for still. Beltre is one of my favorite players ever.
To be clear, I don’t hate the Red Sox at all… Just some of their fans.
Jags? Playoffs?? 2009???
by JamMasterJesus on Jan 4, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
Well, now that you said, it, OK...
but really, I don’t want ANYONE winning one in any particular year more than the Mariners. My rooting for laundry is pristine.
by eponymous_coward on Jan 4, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
No no no no.
Sorry Beltre. I hope your team sits in last place all year.
All Hail Zduriencik!
by Goose on Jan 4, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
The only conclusion I can draw is that he really must have hated Seattle
I have a hard time believing he couldn’t have gotten that contract from the Mariners.
by Jeff Nusser on Jan 4, 2010 5:54 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
He would have gotten something like $12 million for accepting arbitration.
My Mariners blog - SodoMojo, Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!
Probably
But if Safeco screwed me out of a multiyear contract, well…
by eponymous_coward on Jan 4, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
Are general managers really that stupid?
I mean, if we all can figure out he’s a much better hitter on the road … can’t they?
Well, the Red Sox aren't stupid, obviously.
by eponymous_coward on Jan 4, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
DMZ summed it up nicely over at USSM:
The gamble he (and Boras) are making is that Beltre plays a good season in the limelight, everyone suddenly notices how great he is now that he’s on nationally broadcast games every day and turns up on SportsCenter every night, and he heads into 2011 with:
- teams with more money
- doubts about his offense erased or eased (this will be heralded as a resurgence and credited to his hitting coach or the Red Sox offense’s protection)
- buzz and probably some hardware and maybe MVP placement
He might have made $2-3m more here, but the next deal he gets should make that look paltry. It’s a savvy move.
Oh, I don't disagree with that at all
It’s just that I guess I underestimate the stupidity of some of the people running other organizations. Why would someone be fooled into giving him a ridiculous contract next year with information that’s freely available now?
But then again, we did watch Bavasi for however many years. And the Royals are still out there.
And the Phillies, where they have Gillick Jr.
2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4
by Fin on Jan 4, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
AB go out there and hit a 100 doubles off that Green Monster!
Good luck Beltre. May the pink hats love you for what you bring to the team as much as we did and never hate you for what you never were as so many in Seattle did.
Also, Beltre, if you can be a Yankee Killer* that would be wonderful as well. And by Yankee Killer I mean, metaphorically on the field, and not literally in the parking lot.
The deal between Boston and Texas was almost done but Lowell couldn't pass the physical, due to a finger or thumb or something.
But that was a few weeks ago and the word in the blogsphere is that Lowell will be fine by Spring Training. Boston is a smart enough team to make a trade happen as soon as Lowell will be able to pass the physical.
Who didn't see this coming?
We’ve been speculating about Beltre and Boston since he became a free agent.
Yes Boston unequivocally sucks sweaty stale monkey balls.
Yes Beltre does not.
Yes it’s going to be difficult to sort out some mixed emotions.
I hope he has his best offensive year since 2004, and lands himself a fabulous contract in 2011, and I hope he strikes out against a helmet-high David Aardsma fastball as the final out in the final game of the ALCS in 2010.
If you truly love something, you have to let it go, even if it means it flies right into a pile of fecal matter.
Best of luck Adrian.
Until I stumbled upon this site in early 2009 I didn’t appreciate you as much as I should have. I always thought you were an amazing defensive player, but now I know.
Don't make us remember the good times quite yet.
Jags? Playoffs?? 2009???
by JamMasterJesus on Jan 4, 2010 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
Beltre and Cameron in Red Sox uniforms is just the worst
Pinstripes would feel better.
I can't believe anyone would ever say that.
Jags? Playoffs?? 2009???
by JamMasterJesus on Jan 4, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
Flagged for being inappropriate.
Say it with me: Washington Capitals. Capitals.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997
True
I don’t know, it’s become such an absolute requirement for people to hate the Yankees that it’s become a cliche and not true hate. I hate everything about the Red Sox, their fans, their team, their city, everything. Adrian Beltre, Mike Cameron and Ray Allen are the only things I can stand about that city.
the yankees are a better team.
Their fans are also less obnoxious, somehow.
Boston's fans, I mean.
Yankee fans can all go to hell. I’ll take a girl in a pink jersey who doesn’t actually follow sports over Vinny from Queens any day.
I'm only happy when a player I love goes to an NL team...
Then it’s more like my childhood pets that “went to a farm up north.”
by wazzu93 on Jan 4, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
ZSwing%: "The rate at which a player wife-swaps with Jack Zduriencik." --- Vatinius
by .Taylor on Jan 4, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
Don't be so rash.
You should always check with Fogel before forming any opinions.
angels fan in seattle
I actually hate the Red Sox more, but still no.
My Mariners blog - SodoMojo, Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!
Because you probably hate the Red Sox only a tiny bit more.
And if New York buys yet another fantastic player, especially one that you like, the Yankees get the hate scale tilted in their direction.
...and now I'm here
It makes me feel a little better knowing the Beltre is basically just using the Red Sox.
All Hail Zduriencik!
by Goose on Jan 4, 2010 6:33 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Like a rebound team.
Jags? Playoffs?? 2009???
by JamMasterJesus on Jan 4, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
Of course, this could mean he ends up with the Angels...
by eponymous_coward on Jan 4, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
If theres one thing I know about exes and rebounds
it’s that after they date that guy you know is a jerk, they move on to someone you couldn’t care less for. Think, Tampa Bay.
Jags? Playoffs?? 2009???
by JamMasterJesus on Jan 4, 2010 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
Are you kidding?
Tampa Bay is totally the hot boyfriend that they come back to rub in your face. And they used to be a total loser so they’re still super sweet. Beltre needs to go to someone who is clearly below our level and who we don’t have to see him with very often. Like the NL.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jan 4, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah. Tampa Bay has an enormous hole at third.
Pretty much an endless vortex of suck.
by Vatinius on Jan 5, 2010 1:13 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Hmm. Logic. My mortal enemy.
Jags? Playoffs?? 2009???
by JamMasterJesus on Jan 5, 2010 3:49 AM PST up reply actions
THEY AREN'T THAT PRETTY, ADRIAN. YOU'RE JUST HURTING INSIDE.
Come back to Seattle and we’ll show you love.
Hey, at least we get to see him succeed a few days a week on ESPN, right?
I think he’ll be great in Boston. This will make watching the Yanks/Sox games on ESPN much easier to watch.
Say it with me: Washington Capitals. Capitals.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997
Will not.
I love my wife, and I do not want to watch her bang someone from New England.
by katal on Jan 4, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Eh, you make a good point.
But I’ll still enjoy seeing Adrian play. Do I wish he was still here? Yeah, but what’s done is done.
Say it with me: Washington Capitals. Capitals.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997
I like the redundancy there.
Say it with me: Washington Capitals. Capitals.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997
This post shows otherwise
ZSwing%: "The rate at which a player wife-swaps with Jack Zduriencik." --- Vatinius
by .Taylor on Jan 4, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Gah...
I’m gonna get really tired of hearing about he “sucks” from Boston if his bat doesn’t fully rebound but his D stays stellar.
I still can't see how we live in a world where the average fan thinks Jose Lopez is a better hitter than Beltre.
Beltre is a hacker but Lopez is a fighter…
You got slurved!
Yep, Lopez is a fighter all right.
He certainly goes up there fighting against taking those damn walks, that’s for sure.
Say it with me: Washington Capitals. Capitals.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997
Baseballs killed his siblings now it's Lopez's mission to make sure none are spared.
You got slurved!
by Slurvey on Jan 4, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I am ready to move on.
...and now I'm here
by CapSea on Jan 4, 2010 7:10 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
With Cammy and now Adrian,
I think I’m going to have to actually kind of like the Red Sox this coming season.
by I Lick Squirrels on Jan 4, 2010 7:14 PM PST reply actions
I hate them %20 less now
It really will make hearing about the Sox every stinking day of the season more tolerable.
I am going to hate it so much
when the red sox “fans” come out to Safeco Field with their newly minted Beltre Red Sox T-shirts. It would probably make for a good survey to ask how many of them were aware that he used to play for Seattle.
2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4
Sad, but inevitable.
He deserves to play for a winner. I lack the Red Sox hatred that a lot of LLers have, so I’m just kinda . . . blah. At least it wasn’t Anaheim.
My philosophy is that player names that roll well of Jon Miller's tongue are doomed to be Red Sox
Nobody says “Jason Varitek” quite like Jon Miller (I could listen to him say Jason Varitek all day), and “Adrian Beltre” rolls off similarly well.
Some names that wouldn’t/don’t roll off well, for counterpoint: “Quinton McCracken” “Coco Crisp” “Ken Griffey Jr.”
So, whatever
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He was a slob. He was disgusting. He swung at shit pitches.
He will_not_ be missed.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 4, 2010 8:07 PM PST reply actions
(Razor's Edge)
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 4, 2010 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
There's hope on the horizon. Don't give up.
by Dewey N on Jan 4, 2010 11:19 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
You'd make a good magic 8-ball.
Say it with me: Washington Capitals. Capitals.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997
I hate it when the freaking BoSox and Yanks get a good deal
The Yanks shouldn’t have been able to grab Granderson for so little and the BoSox should have had to shell out 3 years 30 mill. Fuck.
With that said, if Beltre hits anything like he did with the Mariners, those rabid BoSox fans will eat him alive.
No way the sweet (for us bitter) T shirt scenario described above happens in that case.
As much as I hate Beltre to Boston, it wasn't a particularly good deal.
The Red Sox paid roughly market value.
Yes, I guess you're right.
With Beltre’s not so good offense, this is about the size of contract he could expect in the present market, I guess.
Don 't read the comment thread over at the Red Sox board. It'll just piss you off.
All Hail Zduriencik!
And heeeeere I go.
First of all, Over the Monster’s format is awful. Please don’t change, LL.
Second, the blog’s author says that they signed Beltre to a good deal because it’s for less money than what Boras was publicly asking for.
Third, if you can believe it, Boston fans are retarded. This is where I would link to individual comments from their thread, but I can’t seem to figure out how to do it.
The 2010 Red Sox are similar to the 2007 team
in terms of “makeup”
Is reccing the really really bad comment anonymously considered trolling?
It kind of amuses me to think of them all highlighted.
Yeah the comments about Beltre having issues with Ichiro and the "but Ichiro has a reputation, so he probably instigated it"
where what made me close the tab.
All Hail Zduriencik!
Meh, I don't think it was that bad.
A couple of people don’t believe in defense mattering, which is not that unusual. And in most cases they were struck down. In addition, if you know nothing about Beltre and you see his 2004 year, I don’t think asking the community if he was on roids is that bad, especially because most of them responded with “No, probably not.”
Overall that was one of the least annoying threads on one of our controversial players I’ve seen in a while.
...and now I'm here
Yeah, it was more like the engine overheated and a group of sort of attractive in a bookish kind of way women were helping him get it back on.
...and now I'm here
by CapSea on Jan 4, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This isn't even close to funny, please hide this.
...and now I'm here
Whatever, desire for a 20 car pile up has been sated.
I was with it, I really was. Overheated engine, yeah man, I dig it. Attractive librarian types, glasses and shit, yeah yeah liking that, and then… they’re changing a flat tire?
I have flagged this since I can't flag myself in order to get this subthread hidden.
...and now I'm here
You'll be hearing about this in the LL QC.
...and now I'm here
Yeah, not really as awful as many other threads.
Hell, a few of our recent threads were worse.
...and now I'm here
I just feel sorry for them now
much in the way our extended Bavasi nightmare began to evoke sympathetic headshakes and sighs from fans of other teams.
The Over the Monster thread is awful.
All roid talk and batting average.
Take a lap.
by Spider Jerusalem on Jan 4, 2010 8:51 PM PST reply actions
Again, to be fair, this was like 2 people out of 50.
There are a lot of reasons to legitimately hate a lot of these blogs, but I’m inclined to only attack them for blatantly incorrect threads. This was just a couple of people, and the majority of the website openly disagreed with them.
...and now I'm here
I completely forgot that we get a pick.
That’s a nice parting gift, I suppose.
Definitely nice after we lost one by signing Figgins.
Hopefully Jack can work his draft magic after the first round is over.
So did the Phillies do the right thing?
Polanco at 3 yr/18 mil vs. Beltre at 1 yr/10 mil. Granted they’re not starved for good hitters but I think I’d much rather have Beltre.
Polanco was a terrible signing.
Beltre would have been a better deal. So would not signing Polanco and Baez and keeping Cliff Lee instead. Absolutely ludicrous.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jan 4, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
I feel like I got punched in the balls!!!
Best of luck to you Sir. Even though I hate your new team, I still <3 (heart, not penis) you!
Beltre, you will be missed!
by RED29 on Jan 4, 2010 10:29 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
Beltre is going to slay The Monster.
...and now I'm here
by CapSea on Jan 5, 2010 3:01 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
That gif cuts a little deeper today. Damn.
no lead is safe.
by sanford_and_son on Jan 5, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
Here is an email I received from a coworker who's from Boston.
Sox signed Beltre. Please make me feel better about this. He hit .265 with 8 HR last year.
I wanted to go into some long rant about better ways to look at players, but I figured it would be a waste.
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
You could at least inform him that he didn't play a full season, and he was hurt a lot when he did play.
Simple enough, without getting into defense, sample size and other things that might make a typical fan yawn.
This is what I wrote back:
He’s by far the best defensive third baseman in the majors with a UZR of 14.3. He has a solid bat that was never suited for Safeco. Last season was a fluke. He only had 449 at bats. He had a messed shoulder, problem in his thumb and he took a ground ball off his boys.
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
sorry reply fail
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
Except for batting average.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jan 5, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
And Home Runs.
Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.
p.s. fuck you angels
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