Eric Byrnes
by Matthew on Jan 29, 2010 3:44 PM PST
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Print1 year deal. Details to come. Yay actual news and things.
Short analysis: Byrnes can field and used to be able to hit and can still hit lefties. He cannot stay healthy.
Fuller analysis, Dave's post on Byrnes from two weeks ago is here.
I like the move since Arizona is likely picking up the full tab above the pro-rated minimum, but if I had my druthers, I would still be calling the Nats about Willingham.
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That's not how you spell "Josh Willingham"
Oh well. So is Z done or think he has one more trade up his sleeve?
by ManifestDestiny on Jan 29, 2010 3:46 PM PST reply actions
Sounds like Z and Co. haven't fully penciled Byrnes in just yet.
I’m still looking forward to acquiring Willingham.
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Probably not the bad everybody was looking for.
But I like the move… should be a relatively small contract.
Telling typo
No…it’s ok to hope! Z is here now!
NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A Few Hail Zduriencik!
I can't even imagine your pain.
It would be like having Carlos Silva traded back to the Mariners.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jan 29, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
Look on the bright side,
One of your favorite two teams is not paying a bunch of money to Eric Byrnes.
And the other one doesnt have him on the roster.
Or you can look at it this way.
One of your two favorite teams has Byrnes on their roster.
And the other one is footing the bill.
Say it with me: Washington Capitals. Capitals.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997
mariners club house needed more of this
BYRNES SMASH
~wu tang banger
36 styles of danger~
by cedarA on Jan 29, 2010 3:50 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
JUST LIKE THE MARINERS NEEDED MORE FUCKING POPUPS AND MORE FUCKING SOMERSAULTS IN THE OUTFIELD AND MORE DOUCHEBAGGERY!
A Few Hail Zduriencik!
I love the somersaults.
Its the dives on balls towards the line that drive me batty.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 29, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
The contract will be for the minimum
Arizona has to pick up the remaining portion of Byrnes’ deal, and Byrnes can’t make any more money on top of his original deal this year, too.
Why can't he make more on top of his original deal?
by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 29, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
So MLB prohibits you making more then minimum?
Huh never knew that.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 29, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Arizona is already paying him.
Unless the Mariners wanted to sign him for more money than his original contract, there’s no point.
You can't make more than you're under contract for
by Graham MacAree on Jan 29, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
What if Dayton Moore and Omar Minaya got into a bidding war
And Omar signed him for a contract worth more than what Arizona owes him?
There is no incentive to get into a bidding war on him
But sure I guess my statement is not completely accurate.
by Graham MacAree on Jan 29, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
From Dave's article:
Players released under contract are paid their full salary by their old team, minus whatever salary the new team is paying if they get employed elsewhere. So, the Mariners could offer Byrnes $9 million a year, but it wouldn’t matter, because he’d still get $11 million – he’d just get most of it from Seattle instead of Arizona, but his overall paycheck wouldn’t change. That’s why these guys always sign for the league minimum – there is no financial incentive for the player to receive any more than that from their new employer.
Source?
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I should've read the Dave's article.
Say it with me: Washington Capitals. Capitals.
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Coach the "grammar Nazi" isn't nearly as fun as Coach "the Moral Compass."
by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 29, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The Coach of Yahtzee?
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Whomever Sabean signs this off-season will make a good platoon partner with Ryan Gark-ohh... nevermind...
Some random poster at DRB told that to me too..
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
That person might have actually been serious.
Here, rather…
I am beginning to wonder if we have it.
If we do, maybe we’re saving it for Bedard/Wang later in the season.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jan 29, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Hey Jack
FUCK ERIC BYRNES FUCK ERIC BYRNES!
by Goose on Jan 29, 2010 3:55 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
He looks like that dick head friend everybody has had at one point.
The one that wakes you up at 8 am on a Saturday, already (still?) drunk and guilt trips you into going golfing, even though you hate golf. He is dressed exactly like this, and drinking vodka on the rocks. He wants you to drink vodka with him. By noon he is a complete train wreck, yet still full of energy and wanting to keep the party going.
Maybe the budget is more strapped than we thought?
At this point he seems like an unhealthy RH Langerhans… not bad if there’s not a lot on the line financially.
I remember that game.
That was awesome. Byrnesie was entertaining, I’ll give him that.
He’s a shoo-in for a broadcasting job after his playing career is over. He has exactly the right personality and intellect for the kind of analysis you see on TV.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Well, I didn't *say* that....
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I am Rec-ing this and I have no Idea what's going on in it.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Jan 29, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
You never seen the video during the allstar game when he sent his dog after a ball in the water.
And it started swimming away.
by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 29, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Woops
FUCK ERIC BYRNES FUCK ERIC BYRNES!
by Goose on Jan 29, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Thats awesome.
What result does that have on the play? Do the runners all get to advance 1 more base?
Our new OFers seem to have quite a bit of trouble keeping live balls out of the stands.
This seems to be an oversight on Jack Z’s part.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jan 29, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
We signed this guy? The guy from the funny GIF? What the fuck, Z?!?
I don’t like it.
no lead is safe.
by sanford_and_son on Jan 29, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
If you want to really annoy us A's fans,
you could make one out of the time where he plows into Jason Varitek in a collision at home, and then does a little victory dance while forgetting to touch home plate.
I think we lost an ALDS on that one.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I tried to find that on YouTube.
Painful as it was, I wish I had found it instead of this, which is just all other kinds of wrong.
Prithee, be not perturbed by yon third bagger.
Byrnes is married???
That’s already wrong.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
This really makes me think that we dont have much money left.
They mustve reduced payroll again? So they now only have money left for one starter. And it wasnt enough to get Sheets.
This basically rules out Willingham and Damon. So much for improving at LF.
Everything we heard at the meeting yesterday was true. Griffey will get plenty of time as DH, and Saunders will have a chance to make the team in spring training.
Great leaps of assumption there.
Bravo.
Really. Just fantastic.
Yes I am making the assumption that they wouldnt fill this spot with Byrnes,
And then go get a better option (Willingham/Damon/etc).
Am I wrong in thinking this? I’d be very happy to be wrong. Could they cut Byrnes if they wanted and not have to end up paying anything?
Interesting.
I would think they’d still have to pay him the 400k if they did that.
So then this really does limit the Mariners at all?
Or it could mean something that none of us know because we're not privy to the dealings of the front office
by pdb on Jan 29, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I had that thought too
Someone we could trade for but might take up a chunk of payroll, like say Harang.
Don't try to trade him Jack
If you try to trade me, I have my middle finger up in the air so don’t even worry about it. Save the phone call.
FUCK ERIC BYRNES FUCK ERIC BYRNES!
I think this move proves the M's are really high on Saunders
They’ve protected themselves in left field by putting together a platoon that should be worth something around league average, but they’re giving themselves the space to take advantage if Saunders blossoms next year.
I agree, he only plays if he steps it up
But like they said yesterday, he’s going to get that shot, and in that light this move makes sense.
Wak needs to give Byrnes the "Willie Mays Hayes" treatment.
Every pop-up costs him twenty push-ups.
Say it with me: Washington Capitals. Capitals.
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by JLProck on Jan 29, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Z: "We look forward to him competing for a spot on our roster when spring training starts."
They aren’t penciling him in, folks. Calm down.
Who would he really be competing against?
A TBA player? (Besides Saunders)
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 29, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
I would watch a Milton Bradley and Eric Byrnes cop drama.
by coreyjro on Jan 29, 2010 4:12 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
They could do an update of CHIPs
Except call it WASPs (Washington State Patrol). You would get to watch them catch all the speeders coming into Ellensburg heading east, busting some meth labs, etc. It would be great.
by seattle_since_81 on Jan 29, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
I don't care what people say about Byrnes
Ever since the Lee deal I’ve become a crack whore for Mariners transaction news. I’m just now getting over the rush.
by short on Jan 29, 2010 4:14 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
As a result of picking up Flipper:
Mariners designated 1B Tommy Everidge for assignment.
Everidge was cleared in order to make room for Eric Byrnes on the 40-man roster. He was just picked up off waivers from the Athletics two weeks ago. The 26-year-old batted .224 in 97 plate appearances with Oakland last season, but batted .335/.402/.556 in 430 at-bats between Double-A Midland and Triple-A Sacramento.
FUCK ERIC BYRNES FUCK ERIC BYRNES!
Season over
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by Griffin Cooper on Jan 29, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
Actually we still have him.
Unless/until someone claims him off waivers or if he elects to become a FA.
by Terminator X on Jan 31, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
Dave's article said we wouldn't get him without a trade; we did...
Did a bunch of stars align to get him to choose Seattle? Is it possible the M’s offered incentives of some sort?
Brian Sabean told him he wasn't interested in reuniting him with his best friend Barry Zito.
FUCK ERIC BYRNES FUCK ERIC BYRNES!
Jack Z said that he would be competing for a roster spot!
According to Larry Stone’s newest blog post. So this may not necessarily end the chances of getting Willingham. Even though I am little bit worried.
He seems at first glance like the kind of guy that could be great trade bait even on a contending team.
Depending on how Saunder does in AAA, we won’t really need Byrnes even if both he and we are doing well. Or am I incorrect with that assumption?
...and now I'm here
Definitely expendable
Won’t bring us much back, but maybe a decent reliever if our pen is getting tired.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jan 29, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
I'd say he's also the type of guy you cut when you bring Saunders up
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 29, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, but if he's good, he's still tradeable.
And yet bringing up Saunders would still make sense. So that’s pretty cool. Having a great replacement to a guy that could play well is probably great from a GM standpoint.
...and now I'm here
I have never liked the argument of picking up guys so that you can trade them at the deadline
If they were valuable somebody else would pick these guys up and keep them. It works out in some cases but most the time I’m guessing its a waste. They might not cost much but they also take up a roster spot we could use to pick up a AAA DFA’d player. If you trade them for a prospect that is much worse than a minor leaguer who is released then it makes sense but there is a cost associated to giving a roster spot to players that you plan on trading.
by Edgar for Pres on Jan 30, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
I really like this move.
Yes, he can be frustrating and annoying at times, but as Dave pointed out he was a +3 player or better from 2004-07. Sure, there are big injury concerns, but I trust Z to be creative enough to deal with that issue if it arises (we still do have Saunder and Langerhans).
This is a perfect low-risk high upside move that could bring a guy who might have close to the same impact as Willigham for virtually nothing.
Funny story about Byrnes that I hope isn't off topic:
My grandparents live in the Bay Area in the same golf-community that Byrnes does during his offseasons and my grandfather works as a marshall for the course. Apparently Byrnes was using his own private cart (which is against the rules) and when told he could not do that he blew up and started freaking out. He had a major tantrum and sited complaints later. Typical star-syndrome, but still amusing.
Husky hoops is depressing.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Jan 29, 2010 5:11 PM PST reply actions
So can we sign Bedard and trade for Liriano now?
So Byrnes is the righty bat……..underwhelming, but since hes basically free we should really SIGN A STARTER! I will be sorely disapointed if Vargas, Olson or Fister makes the rotation, we need more upside than 4.50 – 5.00 ERA guys in the 5th spot to take the division
I doubt Liriano will come cheap enough to be worth it.
And I doubt Bedard will sign until he’s a little healthier.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jan 29, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
I went to two diamondbacks games last year
as they weren’t doing so well, it seemed like there were only diehard fans around. And they fucking hated him. It was actually pretty damn funny to hear so many people absolutely trashing someone on their own team. Especially since it was quiet enough in there that you know he could hear every word. He seemed to be sort of a headcase.
I remember lots of hassling about his clothing line. Time to stock up.
Jesus fucking Christ
why is his clothing so expensive.
by resurrect_ha28 on Jan 29, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
But some of the money get donated to the Pat Tillman Foundation.
How are you going to make a profit if you are donating money to a foundation without overcharging for the products.
by seattle_since_81 on Jan 29, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
Upon further review I like this because we'll need a token retard whem Lopez is dealt
by Poochie on Jan 29, 2010 5:32 PM PST via mobile reply actions
sorry, i thought it had been long enough
dead dead dead. like mars. my mistake
by Astrobiology on Jan 29, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry I didn't capitalize
It’s been a long day. On a good note, we bought our season tickets today!
by Astrobiology on Jan 29, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
I'm so sorry for you
Hopefully, should Byrnes ever attempt to score a run, he’ll remember to TOUCH THE FARKING PLATE.
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
You can say fuck here
In fact, as one of the leaders of the SBN we take pride in our appropriate usage of the word fuck. I don’t have the stats in front of my, but I believe we put up a fuck+ of 180 which was good for the league lead.
Our wFU is off the charts, that's for sure.
...and now I'm here
Profanimetrics.
Love it.
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Byrnes
Right now, Byrnes said, “My legs are as healthy as they’ve ever been. I’m excited to put together a full season and help the Mariners win a lot of games.”
Oh goodie, another person who says they’re in the best shape they’ve been in a long time.
Eh yeah, but would you rather have a player say
“No, I actually feel pretty shitty. I don’t think I’ll contribute that much.” ?
Husky hoops is depressing.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Jan 29, 2010 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
That worked out great for Rob Dibble, Lou's motivational speech in the locker room later was amazing.
That man was a real people person. Kind of reminded me of Terry Tate.
Jack Z values previous AL West experience.
With Figigns, Kotchman, Bradley,and Byrnes familiarity within the division, this is a huge advantage than just bringing in random players. Obviously, the biggest influence will be the production of Lopez, Bradley, Griffey/Byrnes, Gutierrez, and Kotchman in the 3-7 spots. Whichcandrive in a ton ofruns with Ichiro and Figgins on base. Anything that WIlson and Moore provide offensively will be a bonus.
Jack Z values good and cheap players.
It just happens that the ones who were available this off season had previous tenure in the AL West.
When did he ever say this?
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Jan 29, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
I highly doubt this
Besides Figgins and maybe Kotchman, the AL West looks way different than when Bradley or Byrnes (!) played in it
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