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Wbc_029_tiny by Jeff Sullivan on in Great News Comment 206 comments

Says Larry Stone, along with a host of others who aren't as awesome as Larry Stone:

Randy Johnson will throw out first pitch at home opener April 12, the M's just announced

I know the feelings around Randy in Seattle don't quite match up with the feelings around Junior, but these are going to be thirty loud-ass seconds. I would've loved to bring Randy in as a 2010 starting pitcher, but given the circumstances, I'll take anything I can get, and this is just perfect. By giving us all an opportunity to express our appreciation, and by not drawing it out any longer than necessary...I can't think of a better compromise.

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I saw Randy

at the SF Starbucks about 2 weeks ago. He had an exceptionally nasty mullet in effect. He honestly looked like a transient street panhandler.

by hishnik on Jan 28, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That would be

The biggest, scariest panhandler I could possibly imagine.

“Real Change? How about some real heat!?”

Boom. Dead pigeon.

by wandergeist on Jan 28, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I want to rec the Mariners for this.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 28, 2010 1:20 PM PST reply actions   4 recs

I think it's up to the HOF committee.

Dawson said recently he was disappointed he was going in as an Expo. He wanted to go in as a Cub.

by wazzu93 on Jan 28, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be surprised if he didn't go in as a Diamondback

He won a World Series ring and WS MVP with Arizona so I’d be really surprised if the committee wouldn’t put him in as a Diamondback. He won four of his five MVP’s with them. He threw a similar number of games with Arizona. I’m not even sure what argument I’d use to convince someone he should go in as an M…he almost went to he World Series with the Mariners? He learned how to pitch as a Mariner? I loved him more as a Mariner?

I guess the best argument is that he helped save baseball in Seattle. Does the committee considers such things?

I think Junior will be the first player to enter the hall as an M. Then Edgar (unfortunately I think this will take a while). Then Ichiro.

by short on Jan 28, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If it was up to him, I imagine he'd want to go in as a Mariner.

Don’t know how much of an influence his opinion will have on the HOF’s decision, but there it is.

A Few Hail Zduriencik!

by Goose on Jan 28, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

None.

The reason the HOF gets to decide what cap a player wears is that in 2001, there were allegations that Wade Boggs was going to be paid by the Devil Rays to “choose” to wear the Devil Rays cap in the HOF. So the HOF took the decision out of the hands of the player.

by pdb on Jan 28, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Which led to Dawson going in as an Expo,

which he is not pleased about.

The Baseball Hall of Fame said it considers the wishes of an inductee but that the choice of the logo on each plaque must be emblematic of where the player made his greatest impact.

“The Hall clearly stated their major concern is the history of the game, and that’s what really played into their decision,” Dawson said. "I’m disappointed. I can probably say that, because Chicago was my preference.

by Teej on Jan 28, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It could be argued that Randy made a considerable impact on Seattle

Though he may not have had the years of dominance, there is no denying is presence here was felt. If he genuinely asks to be in as a Mariner, the chances are not small.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Jan 28, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also

There’s something to be said for where a player establishes himself. Randy rose to dominance in Seattle, and for that reason, many people (even non-Seattle fans) will always remember him as a Mariner.

I feel this was also a factor with the Dawson Hall debate (though he was also better as an Expo).

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jan 28, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was the Dave Winfield thing that got it going.

His feud with George Steinbrenner is what led him to refuse a Yankee cap.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jan 28, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm looking at the 2010 schedule,

and trying to figure out who our (home) opening day starter might be. Is it likely going to be our #4 starter? It sucks that we open on the road for the second straight year. A home opener with Felix and Cliff pitching back to back would certainly sell out the stadium two games in a row. :(

by Mind of no mind on Jan 28, 2010 1:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Exactly why I'm going to Oakland.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 28, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Edgar and Buhner have to be there too!

Get those four together again? Can we finally start fucking retiring jersey numbers soon too? Edgar is due.

Carlos Silvelite

by OceanBird on Jan 28, 2010 1:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I hope they show it on TV

for those of us not cool enough to make it to the game.

by RunningFool on Jan 28, 2010 1:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Awesome.

A Few Hail Zduriencik!

by Goose on Jan 28, 2010 1:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think it's time to plan a trip back to Seattle.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 28, 2010 1:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don't, but am looking up prices anyways.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 28, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm, only a 300$ flight + game ticket?

What do I want more, food or this?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 28, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Food is common and available every day.

Randy Johnson throwing out the first pitch is not.

by pdb on Jan 28, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You make a compelling argument.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 28, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You'd be surprised how many people don't even eat the second halves of their hot dogs.

You can get a good two or three chunks off the end without even touching where they bit.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 28, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And think of all the leftover nachos.

that ‘cheese’ never goes bad.

by msb on Jan 28, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Those of us who live in Seattle...

Should start a hostel (is that the word I’m looking for) for people visiting from out of town on low budgets.

by skwid206 on Jan 28, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Yes, that is the right word, yes you should do that, and yes you should also provide transportation somehow.

by RunningFool on Jan 28, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he'll throw one

And say, “Hey, this feels pretty good. Just start sending out A’s batters and I’ll let you know when I’m done.” They can sign the contract between innings.

And maybe he won’t be done until October….

by wandergeist on Jan 28, 2010 2:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Blasphemy, not driving?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 28, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would recommend the Red Iguana, but you don't eat human food.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 28, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you are serious about this, facebook me.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 28, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have class and wouldn't have time for 44 hours of driving

That I would consider flying shows how much I want to go

Determined, Jonesing Commentor

by I'm NOT Corco on Jan 28, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

.

RAAANDY!

~I once gave Jose Canseco $15. ~

by section331 on Jan 28, 2010 3:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

From the comments section in Larry Stone's post:
Glad to hear this, it will give me an opportunity to BOO him for quiting on the Mariners. He was an incredible pitcher, but not the best of persons. Anybody that absolutely doesn’t try for one team while throwing 91-92 mph tops on his fastball to suddenly throwing 98-99 mph fastballs after his trade to Houston doesn’t deserve to be honored.

I have heard countless stories of his attitude off the field and refusing to autographs or even take pictures. Hope he enters Cooperstown in a Diamondback uniform.

Sigh…

by Phildopip on Jan 28, 2010 3:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I sort of get where he's coming from

because it did seem like he dogged it at the beginning of the season for the M’s and then turned it on for the Astros. But I still have love for Randy because of 1995 and his no hitter. He was the most feared pitcher during his time period here. I always enjoyed watching his starts.

"LARGENT! UNLOADED! and he got the ball!

by seattle_since_81 on Jan 28, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There's a USSM post about this

written, I think, by DMZ a long time ago.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jan 28, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's here

Refuting the Randy Johnson quit on us canard.

there’s no evidence that Randy Johnson tanked in order to get traded, and there’s a preponderance of evidence that he was trying to pitch well but could not manage to do it consistently.

by wandergeist on Jan 28, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thansk for the link

Obviously perception is not reality. Plus, as you get farther away from something your perception can change. If he really wanted to be traded, it would have made way more sense for him to pitch consistently well so that teams would be interested in trading for him.

"LARGENT! UNLOADED! and he got the ball!

by seattle_since_81 on Jan 28, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

I’ve kind of relegated Randy to ex boyfriend status; The one who broke up with me and I was really pissed at him for a while, but now I wish him well and just remember the good stuff and why I loved him in the first place.

by wazzu93 on Jan 28, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Unlike the guys who still boo ARod

Who are the ex-boyfriends who are secretly certain that their ex is now with someone who is richer, better looking, and has a much larger penis. (Which is to say average-sized.)

by wandergeist on Jan 28, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Screw you.

I’ll boo Rodriguez until the day he’s out of baseball.

by katal on Jan 28, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I still boo Alex because I seem to remember him saying it wasn't about the money, but was about going to a winner.

In a way, 2001 was poetic justice for Alex. And I was more and more happy with every Texas loss.

Say it with me: Washington Capitals. Capitals.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Jan 29, 2010 1:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I felt that way about Griffey for awhile, after he left

I felt a little hurt when he demanded the trade to Cinci, but as the years went by and I got older, I understood where he was coming from better. The sting eventually wore off, and the homecoming ceremony when the Reds came to Safeco in 2008 was very special. I definitely smiled when he signed with the team in 2009, and as long as his playing time is minimal in 2010, the good feelings will remain.

by njpozner on Jan 28, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone tell him that if it weren't for Randy leaving, we wouldn't have Felix.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Jan 28, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Kid, Randy & ARod

I can’t stand any of these guys and will NEVER go to a game where there is even a chance they may play. If it’s Bone or Edgar… I’d go in a heartbeat. Both were class acts. I don’t forget the way Jr. left Seattle the first time and there is no room for forgiveness. Randy is an ass who left on very bad terms. AFraud is a selfish narcissistic who sets the bar for all others.

by algionfriddo on Jan 28, 2010 3:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Uhh...
Randy is an ass who left on very bad terms.

 After the team told him they didn’t want to re-sign him essentially because he was over the hill and had a bad back.

by ToddK on Jan 28, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Snappy response Poochie

In this instance, it only matters that I’m right. I remember RJ lobbing crap to force a trade… only to turn into Walter Johnson with the Astros days after the deal. Remember that the great 2001 team set records WITHOUT RJ, the Kid or PayRod. Sorry I value loyalty.

by algionfriddo on Jan 29, 2010 12:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You might remember that.

But you’d be wrong, ergo, you’re not right.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Jan 29, 2010 12:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You "value loyalty"

And you follow baseball?

by wandergeist on Jan 29, 2010 12:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

x
RJ lobbing crap to force a trade

It is very hard to run a FIP in the mid 3s if you’re lobbing crap, and it’s counter productive to play poorly if you are trying to force a trade. You may want to check your memory and get your facts correct.

by Poochie on Jan 29, 2010 1:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I hope I can get opening day tickets now!

2009 Safeco Field Record: 6-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 10-4

by Fin on Jan 28, 2010 4:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Robin?

It’s Randy..

by JBell523 on Jan 28, 2010 5:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

You know what has always pissed me off?

Its when fucking New Yorkers talk about how Randy couldn’t handle pitching for the Yankees. Sure Randy didn’t pitch up to his standards (3.78/4.27 FIP’s in 05 and 06) during his time in the big apple. But jesus christ the 2005 and 2006 yankees came in deadlast in team UZR both years. I’m sorry if his era wasn’t good enough for you assholes. Randy should have just quit in June of 05 when they trotted Gary Sheffield, Matsui, and the corpse of Bernie Williams into the outfield and told him to pitch.

by coasty141 on Jan 28, 2010 7:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It actually makes me happy that New York fans hate him.

If he succeeded as a Yankee, New York fans would love him and the Yankees would be part of his legacy. Having one of the best pitchers of all time be a Mariner and D-Back through and through is something I take pride in.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jan 28, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And with this post I realized that the moment he retired, I forgot he was ever a Giant.

He was obviously an Astro too, but few people even remember that.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jan 28, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like this quote from the Seattle Times story about the announcement
Alan called me back immediately and said Randy said yes immediately as well," Armstrong said. "He said Randy was psyched and honored to get the invitation, and was looking forward to connecting with you guys (the Mariners) now that his playing days are over. A very important part of his career was as a Mariner, and he hopes he stays connected the rest of his life.

Here’s the link.

"LARGENT! UNLOADED! and he got the ball!

by seattle_since_81 on Jan 28, 2010 7:36 PM PST reply actions   4 recs

Oh man

Reading this just makes me feel like a kid again.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 28, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if he would like to work with Mariners the way Buhner does.

I know in the past that Jay would go down and be a spring training consultant/coach. How great would it be to have Randy come in and help our pitchers during spring training.

"LARGENT! UNLOADED! and he got the ball!

by seattle_since_81 on Jan 28, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno.

His spats with the media are well known and he wears his emotions on his sleeve, but he’s always struck me as being misunderstood. I remember a handful of stories growing up about him being pretty cool to fans around here.

by katal on Jan 28, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's it I think

Randy was kind of an asshole when I met him, but that was because he had to take a piss.

by lemonverbena on Jan 29, 2010 12:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Which is why

Men with enlarged prostates are the biggest assholes of all.

by jtopps on Jan 29, 2010 6:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was just going to say that nothing that starts from the fact that Randy Johnson is retired will ever make me feel like a kid.

But I get it, you know?
My first vivid memory of Randy was the big brawl against the Brewers in Milwaukee just after the trade; not sure if he’d pitched for the M’s yet or not. KSTW showed the bullpen guys trotting onto the field to take part, with one oversize guy among them. Then it panned back to the action as Dave Valle was trying to kill Bill Spiers or pre-Mariner Chris Bosio… and then another wide shot where you could see Randy with two Brewers in head locks. There are many, many things that I desperately wish I had GIFs of…. but that’s pretty close to #1.

by marc w on Jan 28, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Really? He was on the team, but was he involved?

The M’s always used to fight the brewers, for some reason, but one was started when Spiers spiked Valle at the plate. I guess he made the last out, because as the trainers were still tending to Valle, Bosio and his catcher came out and started to warm up, tossing the pitches basically right next to Valle and the trainers. Hilarity ensued.
Yes, that must’ve been it…. that fight happened on May 28th 1989, just three days after the trade. But they had a huge fight the next year, and apparently two fights in one day in spring training in 1989.

by marc w on Jan 28, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I’m having trouble finding the link I had a few weeks ago, but Randy came storming out from the bullpen, grabbed Francona, and punched him in the face.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 28, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, I REALLY need a GIF of this.

Such a punchable face.

by marc w on Jan 28, 2010 10:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Only?

I just did a super-scientific count by looking at Randy’s ERA+ for each year, and estimating what his corresponding WAR would have been. I had him as being just over 100.

by katal on Jan 28, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow!

More than Nolan Ryan and Christy Mathewson? Amazing.

by mark sobba on Jan 28, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Randy Johnson 1995 season: 2.08 FIP.

Zack Greinke put up a 2.33 last year, for reference. The lowest FIP season by Greg Maddux was 2.26. The lowest by Roger Clemens was 2.17.

That being said, dear God, Pedro Martinez’s FIP in 1999 was 1.39.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jan 28, 2010 8:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah and in 1999

You had 29 hitter put up 400+ wOBA’s

by coasty141 on Jan 28, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Pedro dominated some incredible Mariner offenses during that era.

On the other hand, I remember in 2005 when the Mariners’ motley crew of Jeremy Reed, Mike Morse, Dave Hansen, and Jose Lopez ganged up on him for an M’s victory. I thought with a world-beating nucleus like that, the squad had a very bright future ahead of themselves.

by katal on Jan 28, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So was I

I arrived late — just in time to see buckets of balls flying out of the dugout. I had to ask people around me what was going on. Once Sexson was ejected, Bloomquist was playing 3rd and Hansen was playing 1st. Not exactly a lineup to inspire confidence against Pedro.

Later, when Morse got an RBI and a run the Mets fans (?) in front of me were asking who the hell he was (he’d just been called up a couple of weeks earlier); I called him “a throw-in in the Freddy Garcia trade.” At the time (with Reed also looking good) that made it sound like even the small parts in that trade had paid off big-time, but as it turns out that’s pretty much Morse in his entirety.

by wandergeist on Jan 28, 2010 10:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was late too!

I-5 was down to one lane!!

by Poochie on Jan 28, 2010 11:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes it is.

A Few Hail Zduriencik!

by Goose on Jan 28, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Or was rather.

A Few Hail Zduriencik!

by Goose on Jan 28, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

On my way to finding out when I can buy tickets for this game...

… I ran across what might be the most ridiculously terrifying/awesome thing I’ve ever seen:

by srm07 on Jan 28, 2010 8:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Is there away to keep these in the sidebar?

Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.

p.s. fuck you angels

by InSpokane on Jan 28, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So you're not reading everything we say in those?

My god…it’s both liberating and terrifying.

We’re making fools of ourselves on the Internet for you.

by marc w on Jan 28, 2010 10:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I will eventually read everything

I just can’t keep up-to-date in real time.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 28, 2010 10:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is the greatest/worse thing ever.

Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.

p.s. fuck you angels

by InSpokane on Jan 28, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Unbelievable

There’s something hugely appropriate about Rick Rizzs faking interest in your well-being.

by Gihyou on Jan 28, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There's a pun?

In his name? That we didn’t exhaust fifteen years ago?

Can’t we move on from prepubescent humor and just talk about pitchers? Because I understand several teams have expressed an interest in Wang.

by wandergeist on Jan 29, 2010 1:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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