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Upcoming LL Podcast Solicitations

We are going to try this again, in a slightly different fashion as we continue to tinker with the process. One idea that I especially liked was to offer you readers an opportunity to raise questions or topics that you would like to hear discussed. Now, this does not mean we will talk about each one, but we are open to suggestions because truth be told we are really boring people with no imagination.

Onward!

Post your topic suggestions.

 

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I think the M’s should maximize what money they have left for FA’s. When it gets close to July 31st and the M’s are still in contention, ownership will divvy up money to get a good player in here, you can count on that.

by TumwaterMike on Jan 25, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Minor Leaguers

I would like some continuing discusson on what our minor league prospects look like, not just the top 10-15. Some of the fringe players such as Hawkins Gebbers and James McOwen. Maybe some discusson on Dennis Raben and Mike wilson. Just a thought.

by TumwaterMike on Jan 25, 2010 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

"Evaluating Pitching Talent"

What are the best ways to evaluate whch pitchers will perform best in the future?
tRA, Swinging Strike %, In Zone vs Out of Zone swing rates and miss rates, etc.

by ARock on Jan 25, 2010 12:41 PM PST reply actions  

Analytical tools to come

tOPS, Hit F/x, what’s next for Pitch F/x, new potential fielding metrics.

Random hilarious occurrences from games.

Guests, maybe from non-Mariners blogs for a change of pace. Maybe other team-specific bloggers like RJ or Grant, or guys from FanGraphs/BtB/THT, etc.

by seattlebruin on Jan 25, 2010 12:45 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Fringe Players

Fringe may be the wrong word here, but I’m using it anyways. I’d like to see a discussion on the following type of players.

1. The top 15 players not on the starting 25 opening day (My current guesses would include Kanekoa Texeira, Greg Halman, Yusmeiro Petit, and 12 others).

2. Injured Players who could come back during the season (Feirabend and Sean White are the only ones I know are hurt, but they may be ready for Opening Day I dont’ know, but there may be others too)

3. Non-Roster Invitees (Corey Patterson, Mike Koplov, David Pauley, Josh Bard, Brad Nelson, Josh Wilson, Chris Woodward, Eliezer Alfonso and Chad Cordero). Which have the best chance to really improve the Mariners.

4. This category is a stretch, but I always wonder what ever happened to the players that fall off the radar. Where do they go? Are they so bad they cannot be traded (or was that a stupid question?) Players like Robert Manuel and Alex Cintron would be in this category.

These lists may or may not be mutually exclusive, but I’m still very intrigued by the depth (or lack thereof) we have at certain positions.

Thanks for asking for suggestions. It should make for a fruitful next few weeks.

Gritty... that's the term I think of when I see Jack Wilson play. Gritty

by A Steamy Day in Cleveland on Jan 25, 2010 12:45 PM PST reply actions  

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http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2010/1/25/1269238/upcoming-ll-podcast-solicitations#29491779

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 25, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Assuming the Mariners make/get to the playoffs

What type of heart crushing loss will we suffer? Rangers with a 20 game win streak? Alfonso Soriano magically coming up to bat for the Yankees?

Carlos Silvelite

by OceanBird on Jan 25, 2010 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

Methodology behind projections

Having just read Jeff’s fun fact of day involving CHONE projections I’m curious about how baseball performance is projected.

I’d be interested to hear about how different methodologies work and what they use to make their projections.

by Snuffleupagus on Jan 25, 2010 1:04 PM PST reply actions  

Best ballpark experiences

individual ballparks, individual games

by seattlebruin on Jan 25, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Or a more general repeating bit on beer.

A short minute or two talking about the beer of the week/month/day (however often you are thinking about doing said podcast). Similar to the whole “This series brought to you by XXX beer” thing. But more awesome cause we get to hear about it.

Considering how much of this crowd consists of beer fanatics, a bit of pandering in that direction can’t do any harm to your listening statistics. And just imagine the marketing potential!

by ExiledToSoCal on Jan 25, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I think there's been so much discussion about the Ms and where they stand and what they've done

that a good new-information-to-time-spent-discussing ratio is going to be hard to maintain.

On the other hand, it would be very informative if you could bring in Rangers/Angels/A’s bloggers to answer the kinds of questions one can’t answer without following a team closely, ie how do you project your team, what are the roster’s major holes/weaknesses, who does the management/FO consider their most valuable young players, which valuable young players does the management have an oddly public dislike for (Napoli!), which of your manager’s habits drive you nuts and on and on.

As a once in a while thing this could be great.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 25, 2010 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

YES

I would also love a discussion with a Rangers/A’s/Angels blogger hearing how everyone thinks the division will stack up. I also would like to hear from other team’s bloggers about what they think of facing Felix on Monday and Lee on Tuesday. Also, potential anxiety feelings other pitchers will feel when Ichiro is on 2nd and Figgins is on 1st.

by JaaronGriffeyJr on Jan 25, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Angels blogger?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 25, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

They Angels have a blog?

Say it with me: Washington Capitals. Capitals.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Jan 26, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Am I missing something

or did people really not know the angel’s had a blog?

by JaaronGriffeyJr on Jan 26, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I know I'm surprised Angels fans can read.

Although I guess they could have an all-picture blog.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 26, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure the best one could make a Geocities page by now.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 26, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Not anymore ):

http://geocities.yahoo.com/index.php

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 27, 2010 5:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Skills/talent

Some skills are more easily acquired/honed than others, so taking that into consideration, what can many of the M’s players reasonably do to get the most out of their talent?
I don’t mean, “If RRS added 10 MPH, he’d kick ass” and I don’t mean, “It would help if Kotchman developed 30 HR power.” I mean, what are the chances that Kotchman reduces his GB% and/or lays off pitches low in the strike zone? Or… RRS’ change-up is currently a, I don’t know, 35-40 on the scouting scale. If it was more like 45-50, what would that make him, and how likely is that?
Tui’s development as a 3B stalled because of a couple of reasons, one of which was poor defense. Would a move to 2B and work with new coaches increase the likelihood that he’ll be a league-average player? Does the shift to 2B make it more likely that he’d improve his defensive skills (because the skills for 2B are better suited for him, as an example), or do you think that if he hasn’t become an acceptable defender at either of 2 positions in many years in the minors, that no one should hold their breath about that skill improving now?

This is rambly, and I hope you understand the distinction I’m getting at…..

by marc w on Jan 25, 2010 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

This would be really interesting

If I read you right, I think of it in terms of what can be coached an improved upon. Can we hope that Lopez gains some discipline at the plate? Can discipline be learned? Along those lines.

The pitching coach and staff got some credit last year, and I think some people would hope them to work continued magic this year. How realistic is that? Is it more realistic for certain pitchers and/or certain pitches?

by Snuffleupagus on Jan 25, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, something like that.

At this point, we know Lopez can’t become a high-OBP guy. That ship has sailed. But he could improve his defensive positioning, or something, and generate a couple of runs that way.

The pitching staff got some credit, and Jack Z raved about the infield instructor he hired this year. But yeah, then you’re getting into specific players and very small, discrete skills. Tui can’t become Jack Wilson, but maybe there are things he’s doing wrong that he could learn to do… less wrong.

by marc w on Jan 25, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I just want Lopez to be an average OBP guy

he’s like a three-win player if he just posts a damn .335 OBP.

.295/.335/.480 with average defense at second is a really valuable player

by seattlebruin on Jan 25, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly. A .335 wOBA in Safeco, with a touch better defense gets him near 3 wins too.

So we have some idea of his overall talent, and we know what his current skills are… what skill improvements can he make to get to that 3 win point?
How realistic is it to see measurable improvement in some defensive skill, given the aging curve for defense? Is that more or less realistic than a 10% improvement in selectivity at the plate, or something like that?

by marc w on Jan 25, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

How you'd spend the remainder of the budget

and how strong the Mariners are relative to the other teams in baseball

by Poochie on Jan 25, 2010 1:47 PM PST reply actions  

I would like to know

If Jeff and Matthew got ripped in 4 weeks too? Or did it take a little longer? Jeff can you please get that ad removed from the rotation because I’m sure people are making false assumptions when they glance at my screen from afar.

by wilymo on Jan 25, 2010 2:52 PM PST reply actions  

Broadening the user base

Got to get the ladies around somehow

by Brian Floyd on Jan 25, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

True story,

Did you fall in love with Miguel Batista? And he rejected you?

by melenious on Jan 25, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd like a narrated version of the Haray Canary incident, with sound effects by Graham.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 25, 2010 3:00 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Done in Ken Burns style

Lots of pan and zoom with stock black and white photos….

by marc w on Jan 25, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

B&W MS Paint?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jan 25, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Podcasts added to Zune Marketplace & iTunes?

This would be awesome to be able to subscribe to these inside the Zune Marketplace and/or iTunes. Not sure how they were posted before – but that would be cool.

by uwbradley on Jan 25, 2010 3:06 PM PST reply actions  

They're already on iTunes.

Check the update at the top of the previous LL Podcast post.

by Matthew on Jan 25, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Right on

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Now how about that Zune Marketplace! (I am one of the 15 people that have a Zune HD.)

by uwbradley on Jan 25, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Off the top of my head

DMZ does something kind of cool each year where he looks at the Vegas odds and tries to pick some teams he thinks will over or underperform their stated win totals. Something like picking overrated and underrated teams might be cool.

We all know what is awesome about GMZ. I’d love to have you guys look back and say what he has done wrong. Its more interesting to listen to than a continuous lovefest he deserves.

Team outlook for 1, 3, and 5 years?

by Edgar for Pres on Jan 25, 2010 3:30 PM PST reply actions  

Interesting... how about this: a look at the Snell/Wilson trade with 6 months of hindsight

It may make Graham start swearing uncontrollably, but at the same time I’m not sure we know how to evaluate that one now any better than we did at the time.

by marc w on Jan 25, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I feel like that one is a big one that might be questioned in hindsight (or just plain questioned)

There are also a lot of small insignificant moves that can be thought about. They totally get cancelled out by the Lee trade by itself but still I think it would be an interesting subject.

by Edgar for Pres on Jan 25, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be interesting

to hear an entire show on one somewhat higher-level topic, like “The Perils of Results-Based Analysis” or something – use the podcast as a way to draw people in to the more advanced analytical methods.

by pdb on Jan 25, 2010 3:36 PM PST reply actions  

I would listen to that

I want to break off the casual fan @ Safeco with UZR (and understand what is actually coming out of my mouth)

by uwbradley on Jan 25, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't realize your podcast idea well was dry after one episode

I was just thinking in general terms, not trying to be all “you should do this this week GO GO GO”. The most intriguing thing you could do, I think, would be to keep the podcast at a slightly higher level, and stay away from just rehashing things that are already on LL; a series of podcasts about higher-level topics might be an interesting way to go. Or maybe do something like that once a month so you can give it the prep time it deserves.

by pdb on Jan 25, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the idea, but I don't see us doing them on a regular basis, maybe the once per month timeline.

The appeal of podcasts, I think, from Jeff and I’s perspective is that they get to be a little more casual, a little less statsy. But we’ll see how they evolve.

by Matthew on Jan 25, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Bingo

It’s important to realize that, while we like the idea of introducing podcasts, the site already takes up a ton of time and the only way to devote a lot of effort to the podcast is to reduce the amount of effort elsewhere. And that’s not something we really want to do. We simply can’t afford to put hours of work into one of these things without hurting something else.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 25, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough and completely understandable

but here’s my devil’s advocate question – why bother podcasting, then? I don’t mean you shouldn’t do it, but what’s the goal of doing it?

by pdb on Jan 25, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Because it's fun to talk about baseball on a complicated but still more casual level

The podcast with John last week was pretty much completely off the top of our heads, and people enjoyed it, which is perfect for everyone involved.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jan 25, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

But...

you do sit in your parents basement staring at spreadsheets instead of watching games, correct?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 25, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

What Jeff said plus

part of it is just an experiment in branching out. There’s plenty of stuff we want to try, podcasts, videos, interviews, non-baseball stuff. Some of it is going to suck, some of it will lead to other stuff.

by Matthew on Jan 25, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

You could also do something simple such as

Using stats to avoid the most common mistakes. Simple stuff for beginners to bring people up to speed.

by Edgar for Pres on Jan 25, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Love this idea

I’d much rather listen to you guys talk numbers versus Tony, no offense to him.

Did you fall in love with Miguel Batista? And he rejected you?

by melenious on Jan 25, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Well instead of doing a podcast

I think it might be cool to hear a post about tRA and what you have learned now that its been around for a while. Any insights you have that aren’t obvious would be cool. Also any problems you know it has and suggestions for future work would be cool.

by Edgar for Pres on Jan 25, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

What.

You have shamed our country.

Did you fall in love with Miguel Batista? And he rejected you?

by melenious on Jan 25, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Only me.

Did you fall in love with Miguel Batista? And he rejected you?

by melenious on Jan 25, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Quick review of the various projection systems and what they say about the M's

Formal: issues with methodology, why Marcel is important, why some systems project AAAA guys as MLB all-stars, etc.

More casual: discuss why each system goes with the Earth collision disaster movie selected, talk about the various ways people misuse projections, blah blah blah beer.

by marc w on Jan 25, 2010 3:55 PM PST reply actions  

If a bunch of different styles of SP are avalilble with the same WAR and price

What type of pitcher would we want? We have great IF defense so we would like a groundball pitcher. We have great OF defense so we would like a flyball pitcher. We have a very expansive park so we would like who gives up flyballs. We want a guy with high strkeouts because thats a great repeatable skill. What is the verdict?

by Edgar for Pres on Jan 25, 2010 3:56 PM PST reply actions  

I suggest interviews with minor league players

LL use to do this and it was awesome. I suggest bringing this back any way possible.

by Edgar for Pres on Jan 25, 2010 4:05 PM PST reply actions  

All of them ended up being traded or injured.

We’re never doing another player interview again.

by Matthew on Jan 25, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe an overview of statistical thoughts on clubhouse chemistry?

It’d probably be nice to have an explanation to point to that sounds more casual and friendly.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Jan 25, 2010 4:13 PM PST reply actions  

Fuck it. Audio beer thread.

It’s casual, it’s responsive to LL reader interest, you don’t really have to ‘prepare’ anything.

by marc w on Jan 25, 2010 4:19 PM PST reply actions  

That might actually be one where you could have live call-ins

I suspect certain members of the LL community would enjoy being on that. It would be like reverse call-ins though – “now we’re going to call acblue to see what he has to say about Speedway Stout”

by seattlebruin on Jan 25, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

No one would like to hear about anyone's fantasy team.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 25, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

He doesn't know it yet, but he's wrong.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 25, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

If LL ran Mariners PR.

Including coming up with LL endorsed:

2010 Team Motto
Promotional Days You’d Like To See
Unique Mariners Related Merch You Wish Existed
Ect.

by SethGrandpa on Jan 25, 2010 7:30 PM PST reply actions  

Dave Sims Hat Night.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jan 25, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

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