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Felix Press Conference Coverage

Personally, I've been all smiles ever since news first broke that Felix was signing, so I can't offer you much of a meaningful summary of today's events. As soon as I hear Felix say "I just want to win here" I'm like butter in the oven. Fortunately, the local media's pretty super, so if you want to read about the press conference, check out the posts from Baker, Drayer, and Divish. Each of them was somehow able to maintain some semblance of professionalism, which is beyond my means.

The most interesting bit, aside from the actual extension, has to be the front office comparison in Baker's post:

Hernandez's agent, Wil Polidor, was asked whether the change in regimes from Bill Bavasi to Jack Zduriencik made much of a difference when it came to getting this deal done. Polidor vigorously nodded his head and said it did indeed make quite a difference.
...

"They realized that they had to sign this ace,'' Polidor said. "And they tried to sign him.''

The implication being that nobody really wanted Hernandez locked up long-term beforehand.

I've mentioned this a few times before...

Felix is open to re-signing with this team. He's always been open to it. I don't know why, mind you, but I'm not making this up. Bavasi just passed him lowball after lowball until negotiations eventually came to an unspoken halt.

It's a situation that could've been avoided had the team earlier signed him to an extension, but as much as Bavasi liked to say "it takes two to tango" (implying that he was open to an extension but Felix was not), the blame for this shouldn't fall on Felix's camp. Felix has always been open to signing an extension with the Mariners. Always. And Bavasi approached him and his agent on a handful of occasions. Bavasi, however, lowballed him with offers to buy out his arbitration years and get options for his first few years of free agency. It would be one thing if Felix turned down reasonable contracts, but Bavasi got frustrated because Felix wouldn't sign for pennies on the dollar. Don't get mad at Felix. Every player deserves the right to a fair contract. It's Bavasi's fault our ace never got one.

...but now you get what is, for all intents and purposes, confirmation from one of Felix's agents, who's probably a better source on the matter. Confirmation that, while Bavasi always said "it takes two to tango" when confronted with questions about Felix's future, it was the front office - not the player - holding everything back. Felix's side was always open. Bavasi's side never took things seriously.

I cannot believe that administration didn't kill us.

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Wil Polidor?

What happened to Alan Nero?

by katal on Jan 21, 2010 10:08 PM PST reply actions  

He's the head of Alan Nero group.

In the same sense that Scott Boras has agents working for his group, Nero has agents working for his. Boras doesn’t negotiate on behalf of all Boras clients and Nero doesn’t either.

I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.

by andrewgolfsalot on Jan 21, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks.

I didn’t realize Nero had that large of an organization.

by katal on Jan 21, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea. I'm trying to get a job within the organization right now.

Along with about a hundred other similar organizations. A guy can dream, right?

I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.

by andrewgolfsalot on Jan 21, 2010 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

When you look at

how many guys they represent — including Gutierrez and Randy Johnson(!), Dwayne Wade and Tony Parker, Donovan McNabb and Lofa Tatupu, and even Wade Boggs and Gale Sayers and Edgar once upon a time — you realize what a big org it actually is.

by wandergeist on Jan 22, 2010 2:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I cannot express how happy watching Felix today made me.

There’s literally nothing that I’m less than ecstatic about. I love you Jack, I love you Felix, I love you Seattle Mariners!

I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.

by andrewgolfsalot on Jan 21, 2010 10:10 PM PST reply actions  

Well this is surprising:
“Joel. I still remember when he was here. He sent me a text the other day and said ‘I see you when you were a little kid and now I see you as a grown person, and I am so happy for you.’ And Beltre he would always tell me things, be honest with me, right to the point.”

I remember Joel in the clubhouse listening in on Felix’s interviews and encouraging him to use his English. “Joel used to kick you in the butt a lot didn’t he,” I asked.

“Always,” Felix said smiling. “Always. I remember the game where I was playing against San Francisco where we scored seven runs in the 7th inning. He grabbed me in the dugout and said pitch like the game is 1-1. Focus. I still remember that.”

I’m not sure what to think of the fact that Joel Pineiro had a positive effect on Felix.

A Few Hail Zduriencik!

by Goose on Jan 21, 2010 10:19 PM PST reply actions  

It just backs up what we already knew

Bavasi did not understand what factors are important in running an organization.

by Coug1990 on Jan 21, 2010 10:21 PM PST reply actions  

Well, this just points to

A particular obsession that led him astray time and time again: the insistence on “proven veterans.” He didn’t sign Felix for the same reason he did sign Jose Vidro. Both bad decisions born of the same flawed Weltanschauung.

by wandergeist on Jan 22, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it was really awesome to see how happy Felix was during the press conference.

He seemed like he was going to jump out of his suit he was so excited about coming back. Even in the audio clips you can hear him smiling. That makes me just that much more excited about watching him for (at least) the next 5 years.

by Zwakamatsu on Jan 21, 2010 11:13 PM PST reply actions  

This a thousand times yes.

I couldn’t even find words to describe how excited he looked to have made the deal.

by d0nkey on Jan 22, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

$78 Million

Can make anybody happy.

But yes, I know (and it’s obvious) it’s more than that.

by wandergeist on Jan 22, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

$78.00 would make me happy right now!

I can only imagine what 78 million must feel like.

by Andrew E on Jan 22, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow.

As if Seattle needed any more reasons to hate Bavasi. Next thing we now, news will come out he’s the reason the Sonics left.

by uw_chris on Jan 21, 2010 11:52 PM PST reply actions  

Well, I don't really believe this

But I’ll throw it out anyway: it’s in the agent’s best interest to imply, or outright assert, that the problem was entirely with the Bavasi side of the negotiation. It’s not like he’s a neutral observer of everything that went on.

by wandergeist on Jan 22, 2010 2:18 AM PST reply actions  

It is absolutely not in an agent's interest to get a reputation as a shittalker

How people see you goes a long way in this business. Ask Zduriencik. There is nothing to be gained from falsely piling blame on the former GM.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jan 22, 2010 6:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I think a Felix extension was the one last lingering stench from his days in charge

And now that it’s finalized, it feels like we’re finally entirely out from under his ineptitude.

by cwel87 on Jan 22, 2010 7:03 AM PST up reply actions  

To me, Jose Lopez is still a mild foot odor

I realize he has value and really isn’t as bad as I want to believe he is, but I still can’t wait until the day he is gone.

by MarinerManMatt on Jan 22, 2010 7:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Jose will be gone before the year begins.

You won’t have to worry about that smell anymore.

by Andrew E on Jan 22, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

The year begins

On April 5. The intolerable interregnum we’re in right now isn’t 2010, it’s just “waiting.”

by wandergeist on Jan 22, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Interregnum?

Felix’s reign has another five years on it, at least

by Graham MacAree on Jan 22, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

The time between the last game played last year

And the first game played this year. It’s an intolerable interregnum.

Every year.

by wandergeist on Jan 22, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly!

I did mean season, but all the same I guess.

by Andrew E on Jan 22, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Per Drayer
His four year old daughter Mia, who has every bit of confidence and attitude that Felix has helped drive the point home.

“She tells me the other day,” Felix recounted, “Daddy when are we going to Seattle? I tell her a couple weeks, and she kept saying, no I want to go to Seattle! I want to go to Seattle! I want to go to Seattle!”

Ah ha! Bribing all her little pre-school friends worked! I wonder how she’ll feel when she discovers Barney and Dora and the Muppets have cashed their final paychecks and moved out of her neighborhood?
(Weirdest. House Rental. Ever.)

He admitted during the press conference that he had thought about the extension every year in Spring Training. This year he says he will walk into that clubhouse with nothing but pitching on his mind.
Now that sounds promising.

by wandergeist on Jan 22, 2010 11:15 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah, there's just no way that explanation flies

Bavasi was clearly given free reign to spend money on what he saw fit, and he repeatedly stated his preference for “veteran leadership” and guys who could fit into “roles.” He (and the managers beneath him, Piniella and especially Hargrove) had little use for young players who weren’t already “proven.”

If anything i would expect the ownership, left to their own devices, to be most interested in developing and locking up assets they’d already acquired (ie their own prospects) as that is a cheaper way to fill out a roster. It was quite a notable development, don’t forget, when Bavasi made an off-season splash by signing both Beltre and Sexson as free agents.

by wandergeist on Jan 23, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

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