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OTFPOTD 9/29 - Impromptu Beer Discussion Edition

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We have not discussed excellent beer in a while. Let us commence discussing beer that is good so Dave Cameron will have reason to refer to us as "that blog that drinks a lot" next year as well.

What have you had recently that's been good? All-time favorites? Favorites in each style? Preferred breweries?

City you would most like to live in for no reason other than beer? (really only two acceptable answers here, far as I can tell)

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recently awesome – nothing new springs to mind. Recently, I’ve had Stone’s Vertical Epic Ale 09-09-09 which was very good, Speedway Stout which was awesome as usual, Kona’s Pipeline Porter (which is off the HOOK), Lost Abbey’s witbier, which was very, very average)

All-time favorites
AleSmith – Speedway Stout
The Bruery – Orchard White, Autumn Maple, Saison de Lente, Trade Winds
Kona – Pipeline Porter
Rogue – Hazelnut Brown
Stone – Imperial Russian Stout, Smoked Porter
Lost Abbey – Devotion, Ten Commandments, Judgment Day, Serpent’s Stout, Duck Duck Gooze, Veritas, Cuvee de Tomme

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Preferred breweries

Rogue, Lost Abbey, Bruery, Full Sail are the bestest

And for nothing other than beer, you really can’t beat SD, but Portland is an awfully close second

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

My wife bought

three of these a while back. She also had one on tap last night and says it’s one of the best porters she’s ever had. I cannot attest as I despise the taste of coffee so I didn’t try it, but she knows her beer.

I went to HUB last night and tried their Velvet ESB. I liked it quite a bit – I’d never had a HUB beer before, and I’m pretty impressed. Amnesia beers are also really good, as are Laurelwood and I could name a few other breweries here to disprove Bruin’s cute but misguided assertion upthread that SD is better than Portland for beer but I won’t because that’d be piling on. coughLompoccough

I’ve also been drinking a lot of reds lately, I just finished a six pack of Bear Republic Red Rocket.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 29, 2009 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

What, I acknowledged that the answer should be Portland or SD

SD has three insanely good breweries and several more excellent ones. I just happen to like Lost Abbey more than the Portland brews, so SD wins out for me

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

COTIXAN!

Countdown: 3 more days!

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Sep 30, 2009 9:38 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

You should have seen my wife's eyes light up

when we saw it was on tap where we went last night. That’s one of the best things about Portland – we just went to our neighborhood pizza place (well, our old neighborhood, but still) and they actually had it on tap, which was kind of surprising (it’s kind of a divey place) but still awesome.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 29, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mirror Mirror is amazing too.

First thing when I tried a Mirror Mirror was, “Hey they should do this with Black Butte”, while they were ahead of me :) They need a double Obsidian stout. Some super imperial stout or something.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing this is aimed at me

I doubt it though. I’ll be on around 6 PM. I suggest we play boot camp all day and never leave the game so we can destroy noobs

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

We'll see

if we’re still playing at 4 AM, then probably.

Also, it turns out I don’t work on the 13th, so holy crap am I going to kill some terrorists that day.

My new roommates are going to think I’m so anti-social after hearing that I like to go out. I’m gonna move in with them and within three weeks, Forza 3 and MW2 are coming out. It’s going to be awesome

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

You asked for it!

By style:

  • Stout- Goose Island Bourbon County. Hon. Mention: Stone Russian Imperial, AleSmith Speedway, Troubadour Obscura, any of Southern Tier’s stouts.
  • IPA- Russian River Pliny the Elder. Hon. Mention: Port Hop 15, Stone Ruination, Dogfish Head 90 Minute, Southern Tier unEarthly.
  • Amber- Fish Organic Amber. Hon. Mention: Anderson Valley Boont, Deschutes Twilight.
  • Porter- Deschutes Black Butte XXI. Hon. Mention: Kona Pipeline, Deschutes Black Butte, Alaskan Smoked Porter, Stone Smoked Vanilla Porter.
  • Sour- Allagahs Confluence. Hon. Mention: Russian River Consecration, Duchess de Bourgogne.
  • Barleywine- Hair of the Dog Fred. Hon. Mention: Deschutes Mirror Mirror, Southern Tier Back Burner, Alaskan Barleywine.
  • Winter- Anderson Valley Winter Solstice. Hon. Mention: Alaskan Winter, Deshutes Jubelale (this year’s at least,) Sierra Nevada Celebration.
  • Session- Sierra Nevada Torpedo. Hon. Mention: Anchor Steam, Deschutes Twilight, Victory Prima Pils, Kona Longboard Lager.
  • Party!- Rainier. Hon. Mention: Deschutes Twilight, Kona Longboard Lager.
  • Breweries, in no particular order: Southern Tier, Russian River, Lost Abbey/Port, Deschutes, Stone.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2009 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I can barely comprehend the awesomeness of Pipeline Porter

I’m rather certain it’s actually my favorite beer of all time, above even The Bruery’s Orchard White

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really want to try the Kona Imperial Stout.

My mom went to Hawaii and told be she brought me back some beer you could only get on the island. It turned out to be the worst Amber I have ever had in my entire life.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeebus that's a good list.

I don’t really have anything to add or quibble with. I’m…. i need a fix! Someone say something stupid!

by marc w on Sep 29, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh and the rest of your answers

(I was so blinded by SD beer > Portland beer I couldn’t think straight there for a minute)

All time favorites:
Anderson Valley Summer Solstice
Jubelale
Rogue Hazelnut Brown Nectar
Gritty McDuff’s Halloween Ale (a shiny new penny for any LL’ers in Maine or New England that will go to Gritty’s and get some of this and ship it to me, as it’s not distributed outside Maine I don’t think)
Lompoc Proletariat Red

Preferred breweries (in no order):
Rogue
Amnesia
Lompoc
Deschutes
Stone
Smuttynose/Portsmouth
Anderson Valley
My friend Scott

It would take me too long to list favorites by type of beer – there’s a ton of them.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 29, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll take this opportunity to promote homebrew!

If you’ve never brewed your own, let me give you a few reasons to give it a shot.
- If you like dark beers, be intrigued that dark homebrews are easier for the beginner because dark malt roast flavors mask many minor off-flavors that are common in beginner’s homebrew. Don’t by shy, make your first brew an imperial chocolate stout and you will amaze yourself.
- Unfiltered beer includes the yeast which has been part of beer drinking for thousands of years. Part of the reason beer used to be so important is that (and it’s been scientifically proven) you can get your entire B-vitamin intake from brewer’s yeasts. A big factor in hangovers is the B-vitamins your body burns processing the alcohol, and I’ve never heard of anyone getting a hangover from homebrew except really extreme alcoholic brews.
- $15 for 5 gallons of premium brew sound good to you? Once you have a yeast culture going (can get one free from your local brewery, I use Fish Tail yeast), and brew all-grain purchased by 50lb bag, homebrew is crazy cheap. Hops are also pretty easy to grow and will climb up your porch, roof, deck, whatever.
Lately I’ve been drinking some homebrewed organic blueberry wine from ’07. Had to make that sales pitch! As far as commercial brews go, some of my recent favorites are porters: Georgetown 9-lb, Alaskan Baltic, and a staple of mine Eel River Organic Porter.

by olystuart on Sep 29, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

According to my friend Scott it only takes a couple batches to get to where you're basically happy with it

the trick then is to keep refining your technique and equipment. He’s been brewing for about 10 years now and he makes some amazingly awesome beers that rival anything on my list above. He made an IPA recently that was otherworldly.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 29, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep,

For me, the biggest hint I could give a new brewer is that sanitation is HUGE. If you take that extra hour to be really thorough and not cut corners (like starting suction in a tube with your mouth, for example) the finished beer will taste much more professional. Reply to “can’t go cheap on ingredients”: that’s why the 50lb bag of barley. If you buy bulk like that, you can get the highest quality organic barley in the world for the same price you’d be paying by the pound for standard malt.

by olystuart on Sep 29, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd agree

Read Papazian’s The Complete Joy of Homebrewing Third Edition and make a few batches, it isn’t that hard. That said, it can get expensive in a hurry. Fridges, all grain setups, kegs, brew kettles, propane cookers, etc, it gets expensive fast. Once your set up it aint so bad, beer’s cheap to make.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

not cheap, but not as expensive.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I thought,

but I thought I’d give it a shot and three years later I’ve never regretted it. (subtle whisper in the background: “$15 for 5 gallons… $15 for 5 gallons…”)

by olystuart on Sep 29, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's a goal more than an every-batch-price,

and if you’re making a hop-heavy batch the price goes way up, but still: at $36/50lb. at my local brew store, 12lb. of grain (not organic) for a batch = about $10, I buy organic New Zealand hops online for $17/lb. plus shipping so a few bucks for hops, and change for some adjunct grains (quinoa, oats, etc.) or chocolate or something. That’s about $15 for a 5 gallon batch, if you have yeast already going, and if you buy cheap hops or grow your own. One trick for hops is that some people grow it as an ornamental plant and you can ask them if you can buy or have them and often they’ll let you have as many as you can pick.

by olystuart on Sep 29, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brewing all grain is not doable for many people.

Not to mention requiring a decent amount of initial capital for equipment.

by Matthew on Sep 29, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think doing a partial mash

makes comparable beer to all grain, especially for higher gravity stuff. If it’s low gravity, just do all-grain. The difficulty of it is overstated. I used to do partial mashes in an apartment with no yard.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keeping yeast cultures going

is important to keeping prices down.

You could do an herb beer and wild craft your herbs. Yarrow grows everywhere and adds a great bitter flavor to beer :)

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of herb beers

I’m still planning on doing my “wee sprucey” scotch ale, spiced with spruce and no hops.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, my guess is

Beer starts at 10% for you, so yes, $40+ is close to what it’d cost, even for an all grain beer. $30+ for the malt, $10 for the hops, and $8 for the yeast, and however much refrigeration costs, because a 10%+ beer is going to take a while to condition.

I can do mild ales for $15 :p Like 3.5% ABV.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

homebrewing is fun

But bottling is a bore. If you have a brewing buddy, it makes the time go a lot faster.

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Sep 29, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I found

Using a couple Mr Beer Kegs help the bottling processing. They’re 2.5 gallons each, so racking from a 5 gallon carboy to 2 mr beers, then bottling from them helps save some time, mess, and lost beer.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting plan

I might try that next time. my former brewing buddy just kegs, which has worked well for him (and for his beer).

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Sep 30, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

The kegs are like $15 each

I wouldn’t ferment in them, since 2 gallons of beer isn’t worth the time, but as beer vessel w/ a spigot, they work pretty good.

I was going to buy a bottling system when I realized that they would work for bottling. I am thinking about using them as 2.5 gallon casks ala this blog entry.

I have 2 concerns, one is if they’re sealed enough to hold the CO2, and the drinking 2.5 gallons in short order. I may try to hook a CO2 gun up to keep pressure. That said, my Mild Ale should only be 3.3% or so, so I shouldn’t have a problem just drinking that over a couple days.

by chrisisasavage on Oct 1, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because There are a lot of people that never saw/read/cared about Harry Potter (like myself)

and therefore don’t know who Snape is. I assume from pdb and your comments that he has a lisp?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

For those scoring at home,

“Funny People” wasn’t that good.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 1, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh my.

Yes, yes he is.

He is also one of the quasi-romantic leading men in Truly, madly, deeply.

by msb on Sep 29, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just as bizarrely, I just realized

that the guy that plays Eddie Harris in Major League also plays Conrad Hilton in Mad Men.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 1, 2009 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

How 'bout...

The kid who plays Scut Farkus in “A Christmas Story” also plays the roadie Red Dog in “Almost Famous”.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 1, 2009 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if he still is, at least in name.

dunno how much scouting he does these days, as I gather he is more and more chair-bound. He also had an partial interest in the Beavers at one time.

by msb on Oct 1, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was also in that show "Titus" a few years back.

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 3, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Tick...

does anybody else think that Dee from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia looks like Tick?

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 3, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps a little...?

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 4, 2009 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I loved that show.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Oct 4, 2009 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's ok

I had a friend who didn’t realize that Tick from Priscilla Queen of the Desert and Agent Smith from The Matrix were the same person….

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 3, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can you get Ninkasi down there?

They have a seasonal beer – Sleigh’r – that’s pretty damn amazing, I don’t know if it’s out yet but any Ninkasi beer is worth picking up.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 29, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not that I've seen, but I do most of my beer shopping at BevMo! because they're so ubiquitous

they have a great selection of local craft brews and the really well known out-of-state brewers, but their depth isn’t really great.

Even for the elite local brews, I have to find smaller shops to sell them

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the G27 or GT5?

I know GT5 got pushed back to Q1 2010.

by BrianL on Sep 29, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, I thought it did.

The gameplay wasn’t much better but the gameplay was pretty much perfect to begin with. The graphics were better and the selection of cars was amazing.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

The cars have never matched GT2 until the new one

and the graphics in GT4 just weren’t a huge step up like GT5 will be. Plus, I’ve kind of come to love Forza’s emphasis on realistic gameplay and car damage that the GT series just doesn’t provide

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

GT is a superior series.

The car handling is more realistic, the customization is pretty solid as far as that goes and the graphics have always been top notch for the time.

by Kirk on Sep 30, 2009 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have played exactly three games on my PS3.

Folklore, MLB The Show 08, and MLB The Show 09.

by BrianL on Sep 29, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

e.g. Xbox 360 wipes the floor with PS3 sheerly because of Xbox Live

which is the perfect multi-player implementation. Has population and quality and support for nearly every game

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still think the bigger problem is Sony's Cell processor.

If the architecture is absurd and overly complicated, devs are going to focus on Microsoft’s DirectX API instead.

by BrianL on Sep 29, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't play PS2 games on mine >:(

I should have bought one of the first gen PS3s off of ebay so I can play my PS2 games in upscaled video.

by BrianL on Sep 29, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not being able to play PS2 games on my PS3 or upscaled videos?

Sony nixed backwards compatibility a couple years ago. The first gen PS3s had hardware supported backwards compatibility and upscaled PS2 games to look better on modern television sets.

by BrianL on Sep 29, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

GT1 and GT2 are amazing.

GT3 sucked major balls, and I never played GT4 because GT3 was so bad that it ruined me for life.

I hear GT4 is good, though.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 30, 2009 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Y'know, I never thought GT3 was anything special.

In fact, I thought it was a pretty significant fuck-up. I know it was a launch-title (more or less) for the PS2, but aside from a slight (VERY slight) upgrade in graphics from GT2, it was a huge step back when it came to car selection and track variety.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 30, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I am still INSANELY excited for The Bruery to release Black Tuesday next month

unfortunately, I can no longer link to ratebeer, but this is a 20% Imperial Stout that is getting some pretty crazy hype down in SoCal, and will be released on Oct 27. Essentially going to cut work early to go get myself a bottle or two (if they let you buy more than one)

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Some beers I've recently enjoyed.

Stone: Juxtaposition Pilsner
Harviestoun: Ola Dubh Special 30 Reserve
Allagash: Curiuex

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Sep 29, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Mmmmmmm

I’d like to try the Ola Dubh Special 30. Harviestoun Old Engine Oil is one of my favorite beers.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fall beers

I didn’t like Harvest Maple all that much (not a big yam fan), but I was really surprised by the Dogfish Head Punkin Ale. Not the greatest thing I’ve ever had, but definitely the best pumpkin beer of the few I’ve tried.

by Teej on Sep 29, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

The way you feel about pumpkin ale is largely determined by what you think of when you think of pumpkin as a food.

I definitely come down on the pumpkin should be savory and a tad sweet, be it pies, soups, curries, what have you. Most pumpkin ales come down on the sweet and a tad savory side, so I’m generally not a fan.

The Dogfish is quite good (although I didn’t care for last year’s) and Elysian Night Owl is quite good as well. I’m also intrigued by Southern Tier Pumking, despite the fact that it is apparently absurdly sweet; Southern Tier so routinely produces styles that I don’t usually like that blow me away that I am willing to give anything they make a shot.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 29, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

The exception to the rule!

I love almost everything food that’s pumpkin based, but have never had a pumpkin ale that I’ve liked in the slightest. I’ve never had the Dogfish or the Elysian, though, so there’s that caveat.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 29, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds about right.

The reason I liked the Dogfish Head was that it was less sweet than other pumpkin beers I’ve had. Though I’ve only had two or three beforehand.

by Teej on Sep 29, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is good to hear.

I bought four bottles of Dogfish Head Punkin Ale, and have been stubbornly waiting for October to open one. Can’t wait.

by katal on Sep 29, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spaten Pils is my favorite session beer.

If’n I’m only going to have one or two, I’d go with Obsidian Stout (nitro) or Dead Guy, depending on the season.

by waldo rojas on Sep 29, 2009 3:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Ok so I live a bit out in the boonies

And the only place I can get beer without driving 50 miles is at Safeway. Can you find some of these really good sounding beers there? I have been mostly drinking Deschutes and Alaskan but I’m intrigued about trying some others. Anyone help me out?

by Scrupio on Sep 29, 2009 4:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Grocery stores tend to vary greatly on what they carry. It sounds like you're in Oregon from carrying Deschutes at Safeway

what kind of beer do you like? Make a list of what your Safeway has and I’m sure we can provide opinions on most of it.

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well SW Washington...

And I like many different kinds. IPAs, Ambers, Stouts, pretty much anything depending on my mood when I’m in the store.

by Scrupio on Sep 29, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

My Safeway carries

Old Rasputin and Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA, as well as some Rogue and Stone stuff. However, my experience w/ SW Washington is not so much beer selection.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

0!

I also don’t really buy/download/watch movies

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've only seen 1 of those movies

I’m pretty picky with movies I guess

by Scrupio on Sep 29, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't really go about owning movies

But I’ve seen 27 of them which is a little disappointingly low, although I have seen the number one worst movie so I guess that makes up for it.

by Dewey N on Sep 29, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw Babylon AD...

It deserves it’s bad rating.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Sep 29, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

More surprised than anything given that I've seen every MST3K episode.

But yeah, there’s enough decent movies out there, why watch shit?

by Matthew on Sep 29, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

It appears so.

Anyways, yes, I’ve never had interest in paying money to see unredeemable dreck.

by Matthew on Sep 29, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never have an interest in paying money to see any movie

Seeing tons of bad movies has made me more critical of better ones though

by Dewey N on Sep 29, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uwe Boll needs to stay away from my favorite video games dammit...

I’ve seen 4 out of that list then I loved the YuGiOh movie but then again I was like 10.

You got slurved!

by Slurvey on Sep 29, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uwe Boll is probably the most douchebag directors of directors.

He beats the living shit out of all his critics and exploits loop holes so he makes money even though his movies don’t

You got slurved!

by Slurvey on Sep 29, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I own one of those, and it's the only one of the 100 I've seen.

I bought Battlefield Earth in college because I had to know how truly awful it was, and it was cheaper to buy than to rent.

by Teej on Sep 30, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Zero

Jesus people have some standards

by Robert on Sep 30, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

So Verlander is out-pitching Duensing.

Looks like the Twins won’t catch the Tigers today.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Sep 29, 2009 5:18 PM PDT reply actions  

So another classic horror movie remake eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY53IlNKdqw

Halloween was meh so was Friday the 13th.

A Nightmare on Elm Street with Michael “I only know about special effects and not plot” Bay.

You got slurved!

by Slurvey on Sep 29, 2009 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

And Saw VI comes out but the series has been really meh with a bunch of cool traps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77i5GtfhpPo

It’s to the point where you don’t care about the plot you just want to see how the characters die.

You got slurved!

by Slurvey on Sep 29, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hrm...

“What have you had recently that’s been good? All-time favorites? Favorites in each style? Preferred breweries?”

I’ve had this light plum stuff called The Perfesser from Elysian Fields, along with a jasmine wheat beer that was pretty good. I’ve been hanging out there before games lately; the food is good and the waitstaff is excellent, in my opinion. I also like Elysian’s pumpkin ale – perfect spice blend, tastes very much like pumpkin spice. I think my all-time favorite drink-any-time beer would probably have to be McMennamin’s Ruby Ale. Black Butte and anything made by the Flat Tire folks make nice stand-ins, however. Also a big fan of Czech ales – the new QFC by our house has a pretty decent selection, but I’ve only had a lot of them once, so I can’t be any more specific than that. :(

“City you would most like to live in for no reason other than beer? (really only two acceptable answers here, far as I can tell)”

Anywhere in the Philly area – Yueng Ling don’t leave the east coast, yo. Other than that, I’m pretty happy where I’m at.

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Sep 29, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

My consumption has dropped quite a bit, but I've still had the chance to find some really lovely beers.

I beer store rouletted my way into a bottle of Maredsous 8, and it was really quite lovely. Since I’ve developed a bloodlust for sours, I hunted down a Rodenbach Grand Cru which was also nice. I am currently enjoying a Dogfish Head Raison D’Etre. It’s all deadly.

If I were to move to a city for beer, it would clearly be either San Diego or Brussels. As nice as Chicago is, I’m not bowled over by a good deal of the local breweries. Yeah, Goose Island makes some winners. None of those are Lost Abbey Cuvee.

by abender20 on Sep 29, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions  

There is a really good cherry sour at Brouwers in Fremont

It smells like vinegar, but it tastes sooooo goooood!

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Sep 29, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

Good stuff lately?
Hair of the Dog Adam
Great Divide Chocolate Oak Aged Yeti Imperial Stout (how do they keep outdoing themselves on the Yeti line?)
JW Lees Harvest Ale
Aventinus Eisbock
Avery Mephistopheles Stout (smooth for a 16% beer!)
Russian River Pliny the Elder

Either Orkney Skullsplitter or Oskar Blues Old Chubb are my favorites. Old Chubb’s good bang for your buck. It’s 8%, inexpensive, and a good Scotch Ale. I <B Scotch Ales.

My gruit tastes good, needs a few months in the bottle. I got a mild going right now. I plan on casking it in a week and drinking it young (like 3 days of carbonation, and drink away).

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 7:26 PM PDT reply actions  

My picks! (Warning: Quite similar to others' choosings)

Pale: Rogue Juniper, Deschutes Maiden Peak

Amber: Mac and Jacks, Rogue American (on tap)

Witbier: La Caracole Troublette

IPA: Deschutes Imperial Knight Rider, Full Sail Lupulin Fresh Hop

Belgian/Belgian-style: Lost Abbey Cuvee de Tomme (tastes like a sour, but classified Belgian Strong), La Caracole Ambrée

Belgian Quad: Lost Abbey Judgment Day, Koningshoeven Quad

Strong Ales: Dogfish Head Palo Santo Marron, Southern Tier Iniquity, Rogue Latona

Barleywine: Deschutes Mirror Mirror

Porter: Stone Vanilla Smoked Porter, Deschutes Black Butte,

Stout: AleSmith Speedway, Southern Tier Choklat, Southern Tier Mokha, Elysian Dragonstooth, Rogue Imperial, Anderson Valley Oatmeal

SOUR!: Cantillon Vigneronne, Russian River Consecration, Deschutes The Dissident, Duchesee de Bourgogne, New Belgium La Folie

I guess it’s obvious what my preferred styles are. I just did a bunch of tastings at Rogue, too, and their taps are far above their bottles. My favorite breweries are fairly clear and echoed by many here. I also would say seek out La Caracole, which is a lesser known Belgian brewery that only has about 4 styles available, but they’re fantastic.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 30, 2009 9:33 AM PDT reply actions  

No Ninkasi?

For shame.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 30, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. Maybe if I loooooved IPAs or something

But I’ve not had a really world-class beer from them, and I’ve had a few B-, C+ type offerings.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ninkasi lives in the same "I don't feel like spending $8 on a bomber right now" realm as Lagunitas.

Which is not a slight in the least; they make very good beer. It’s just not excellent.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 30, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sleigh'r!

Get it when it comes out. It’s a great seasonal.

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's my favorite of theirs.

And it’s really good, but I certainly wouldn’t put it above Anderson Valley (they’re so totally different, it’s sort of an odd comparison, but y’know).

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Winter ales are strange like that.

I see them as three distinct categories; you’ve got Alaskan winter and Winter Solstice with the dark amber, really malty thing going on, then you’ve got the lighter colored, hoppier, higher alcohol Jubelale and Jolly Roger and then you’ve got the spicy brown ale thing that the Europeans are in to. “Winter ale” pretty much means “we release it in October” so far as I can tell.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 30, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

At the Rogue brewery? Was she lost or something?

Incidentally, I picked up a case of Juniper at the brewery back in August. Rogue brewing/distilling is a pretty cool place to visit.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was at this really nice beer bar in Temecula when this lady asked the bartender if they had any lighter beers

he recommended pale ales and Belgian whites (which is what I assumed, too)

She said “no, I mean like Coors Light…”

Him “…….”

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw a guy get into a shouting match at the Portland Rock Bottom

because the bartender didn’t have a Coors Light to serve this guy. I think the phrase “what the hell kind of bar doesn’t serve Coors Light” actually came out of his mouth. Shortly after this exchange he was asked to depart. When he didn’t, he was departed.

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

The bartender should have just served the guy some of Rock Bottom's finest.

I bet the guy wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 30, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, I'm not crazy about Rock Bottom

but I was drunk and needed to maintain said state and it was right by the max. And they had a bathroom.

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I almost saw this happen at the Shanghai Tunnel. Coors Light people are... interesting.

The bartender was doing everything he could to make it clear just how unwanted Coors Light guy and his pack of Light friends were, but they were just buzzed enough not to get it. They were fascinated/flummoxed by the range of ‘Eurobeers’ on offer.
Just goes to show that there are Portland residents who seem to have missed the whole microbrew thing entirely.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even so.

And yeah, I’m sure there are some Sumner/Des Moines/other random suburb residents who’ve not had anything more daring than Bud Light Chelada.
It was just one strange scene. This was roughly 4:30pm, so it wasn’t like a big night out for ’em. At least not yet.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where? PDX? I meant Newport. The people at the actual facility seem to care about little else.

The brewpub (which is isn’t all that close to the factory) clientele were less interested perhaps, but still pretty damned interested. Mind you, this is all based on one visit.
The one thing that was odd was finding people who really didn’t know anything about Rogue who’d somehow located the ‘store’ in the brewery itself, which was basically a guy in one corner of a warehouse surrounded by cases of beer.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

The one in Portland.

The times I’ve been there (with one exception, but it was 4:00 PM on a Sunday night) the crowd has been mostly douchey frat guys on pub crawls.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 30, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

The store was packed when I was there.

And this woman was with her daughter, who seemed to believe she knew about beer, except she couldn’t recommend anything to her mom and she accepted a sip of the Rogue Smoked Porter and, to save face, said she’d take the glass.

A pint of Rogue Smoked is…well…an interesting idea.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 30, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

FYI for those who like Pumpkin Ales or want to try them

October 10th at the Capitol Hill Elysian location is the Great Pumpkin Beer Festival 2009

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Sep 30, 2009 10:17 AM PDT reply actions  

So I moved out of my apartment and into a house (still in NJ, unfortunately).

What do I have a friend paint as a mural on my office wall?

I’m thinking one of the images from Planet Earth, but I’m not set on it.

Any other ideas?

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by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 10:53 AM PDT reply actions  

The darkness, the bushes, or the white van with a puppy inside?

I don’t know if my wall is big enough for all three.

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by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh and on another tangentially related foray

if you’re forming a group to try to win Roman Polanski’s freedom, is it really smart, PR-wise, to have one of the leading figures in that group be Woody Allen?

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just blame it on some Puerto Rican guy.

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by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that the whole thing is ridiculous and there's a very good chance he was legally insane at the time

but seeing as how he drugged and sexually assaulted a 13 year old I’m not going to be shouting “no justice no peace” from the rooftops over it.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 30, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah I actually don't care so much about the crime any more

since the victim herself came out and said it was time to move on. I just think it’s an odd choice to have a guy that married his stepdaughter speaking publicly about child molestation and whatnot.

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

You wouldn't believe how much good candy costs these days.

Kids are fucking picky. You can’t just have a small jar of Lemonheads and Starlight Mints like the old times, you have to pony up for the King-Size brand name candy bars.

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by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually feel that way about a lot of New Belgium beers.

I shouldn’t like Fat Tire, but I do. Skinny Dip’s pretty damn good on a hot day too.

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree about that Skinny Dip.

I get alot of shit for liking a “chick beer.” They need to start canning it so we can take it tubing.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Sep 30, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Blue Moon simultaneously saved and ruined my beer drinking life

if not for it, I would have never gotten into craft beer. Because it still exists, and people know I like good beer, they bring it to parties

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gosh I hate blue moon.

And people do the same to me with it. “you’ve got to try it.”

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Sep 30, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO NO NO

I drank way too much of it in college, I DO NOT NEED TO TRY IT ANYMORE

of course, you have to be polite in the hopes they will see the light and be receptive to “hey, you know what else is good? Hoegaarden! and Flying Dog’s witbier!”

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Generally I find that when the word snob is used

it is being implied that ones taste is an aesthetic matter rather than an actual preference.

Plenty of my friends think I like craft beer because it makes me feel sophisticated. I have so far resisted the temptation to point out that they all drink Pabst because Miller is good at advertising.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 30, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's an easy solution.

Tell people you will only drink Belgian Strongs or Imperial Stouts.

by abender20 on Sep 30, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is odd

Maybe it was a timing thing, but I viewed them the way I now view Rogue or something.
Now I find that about as silly as thinking they’re ~ Redhook, but there you go.

I had a Twilight yesterday for old times sake, and it’s still quite nice. Green Lakes too.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pipeline Porter

I thought it would be good, and it’s the best thing I’ve ever had

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well then they are wrong.

White is a specific style of wheat beer. Maybe this is a newer development in beer terminology but there is a vast, vast difference between Wittikierke/Hoegaarden/etc and Aventinus/Hacker-Pschorr Weisse.

And yes I know what weisse means.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 30, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Unless dunkelweisse is a white beer.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 30, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Bruery's Berliner Weisse

way over-carbonated, not a lot of flavor

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

We had computer labs at my college in 1987

and for all I know they had internet, but I never knew enough about computers to even know what ‘internet’ was at the time.

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

NERDS!!!!!!!

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by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

That movie taught me a geek can get the hot chick...

provided you can con them into thinking you’re a jock and lay them before they find out.

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by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

That movie taught me to accept homosexuals

as long as they’re preening, overly broad stereotypes.

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you like your beer cold,

TV loud, and your homosexuals flaming?

by Jed MC on Sep 30, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

HELLS YEAH

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clearly, I should just take that method.

Normally I just try to straddle the line between jock and geek. Y’know, like a Brian Bannister type.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 30, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

A jock would have gone to a D-I school

instead of played IM football and bowled at a D-III.

I’m not saying I do either particularly well.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 30, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I as well.

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by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll drink once in a while

but like RC above, I have absolutely nothing to offer in a beer thread.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 30, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too

But I’m not morally opposed, just waiting til it’s legal.

by Mariner John on Sep 30, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't drink often

If it makes you feel any better.
But at the age of 37, I’ve had a lot of beer in my time…and wine….and tequila. :/

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by section331 on Oct 12, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

FITTYCAT

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Sep 30, 2009 1:00 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

BW exceeded ):

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by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has anyone been to Hopvine before?

I don’t really know how I feel about a beer bar that has their food menu online but not their tap selection, but I’m going to be in the neighborhood tonight and am curious.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 30, 2009 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes. Good on both counts.

Good food (good vegan soups) and a pretty good, and constantly rotating, tap selection.

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

And in a previous incarnation as the Five-O Tavern

it was one of the locations for this film shoot, during which River Phoenix asked permission to hide in the bathroom of my video store in order to avoid squealing female fans one day while shooting.

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's good to know about the food.

I’m going to Coastal Kitchen’s 9:00 happy hour for $3 fish tacos, but I’m always looking for good soup.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 30, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally different experiences.

The Hopvine is a great place to sit, enjoy a beer or two, and chat with a friend. The Canterbury is a great place to get slaughtered on hellishly strong cheap drinks and eat deep fried appetizers all night.

I used to live around the corner from the Canterbury and that place has my heart like no other bar, but if it’s a quiet pint or two you’re after the Hopvine is a better choice.

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Money quote!

The trade of Jarrod Washburn in exchange for an unproven young prospect with terrible command, and an unproductive spot starter/reliever in Lucas French, sounds the warning bells.

Yep. The M’s shoulda kept Washburn, because he was so…good?

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked

“Hiring Tom Tango, and trusted assistant, Tony Blengino, paints a grim picture for the M’s spending money in the future.”

by msb on Sep 30, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed this one

Emphasis mine:

Despite the claims sabermetricians like Blengino and the blogosphere will make, the plan is not to blend or marry traditional scouting with advanced metrics. It’s fairly obvious in [recent player acquisitions that] quite the opposite is true.

So, instead of blending traditional scouting with advanced metrics, the M’s will be blending advanced metrics with traditional scouting.

by Chris Hafner on Oct 2, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have to say I thought of the 'spending money" paranoia

when I read the entry by Dave Cameron (hissss!) this morning

by msb on Oct 2, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I finally went to his blog and found this gem.
I know the delusional saberheads out there will tell you Gutierrez is worth several wins, hit points, and bunch of other fun Dungeons and Dragons math formulas.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Sep 30, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was just about to post that!

I’ve taken to just grabbing a random post and reading it because it’s all so very comical.

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

"I am on record believing run prevention does not work in a real world application."

I agree. I’ve always said that you should play without fielders so your hitters don’t get hurt.

by Teej on Sep 30, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's hilarious and all, but we may need to apply the Halos Heaven rule on that place soon.

I know, I know, you can pull any random quote and get a laugh. But I’m not sure we need 30 comments doing just that every time he posts.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

This quote really is amazing though

does he think that run prevention just magically makes the RA column have a smaller number at the end of the season?

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm kind of over it.

And I’m still not convinced the whole thing isn’t a joke.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 30, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Just like I’m still ~75% sure Graham is ‘SABRMatt.’ His denials prove nothing.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I kinda hesitated before posting that one to be honest

and i will probably stop talking about it now, but it’s just kinda funny. I have no problem with a strongly held opinion, but to hold on to that opinion in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary of what you opine is just kinda silly.

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It IS funny. And it's not like I have any say in the matter, but

there are tons and tons of blogs spewing out hilarious wrongs.
On one hand, I think we’re getting trolled (and taking the trollbait), and on the other, FJM didn’t limit itself to JM, and I love y’all, but we ain’t FJM. . The cuban persona thing makes me think that it IS worthwhile to keep checking back, but I think we’d get as much mileage out of a random sampling of baseball blogs.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you ever read Mariner Morsels?

There is some wacko shit over there too.

by Sec 108 on Sep 30, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

What makes Paul so damned ‘positive’ anyway? Better living through chemistry, if you know what I mean.

That marc guy just takes pictures of baseball players; used to write, then got into meth. Poor guy.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

This guy is way more fascinating to me than anyone at Halos Heaven

The resentment is so thick in everything he writes that it entertains me to no end. I think half his comments that I’ve seen on Geoff’s blog include the words “Dave Cameron” in them. I find madness way more fun to watch than ignorance.

by Teej on Sep 30, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Judging from my readings, he seems to think that the entire reason the M's got better this year is Jarrod Washburn becoming an ace in his mid-30s.

The offense is bad, he thinks the defense doesn’t really matter . . . and somehow the team is above .500 with Bedard being injured and our 3-5 guys being mediocre. It was all Washburn.

Oh, and that sabermetrics = never spending money.

by Teej on Sep 30, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Money quote
Despite the claims sabermetricians like Blengino and the blogosphere will make, the plan is not to blend or marry traditional scouting with advanced metrics. It’s fairly obvious in the player acquisitions of Ryan Langerhans, Jack Hannahan, Jack Wilson, Ronny Cedeno, Garrett Olson, and Jason Vargas, quite the opposite is true.

Doesn’t the sabermetric community hate the way that Ronny and Wilson hit, and were pretty meh on Vargas?

Let’s also not forget that it’s not like we gave up anything to get Langerhans or Hannahan

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love it.

I’ve said it before . . . I’m not sure if Adam is a commenter here or at USSM, but that guy has incredible patience. I’ve tried on a few occasions to get into some conversation over there, and I just can’t do it. It goes bad so quickly. Hopefully he’s not permanently damaged.

by Teej on Sep 30, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by Aaron Campeau on Sep 30, 2009 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Does anyone make black and tans still?

I used to do it with the Bass Ale and Guinness Stout, especially when I was 21-22. I don’t know if it would work with Mirror Pond and Obsidian Stout, but I may have to make it a weekend project.

I’m also thinking more along the lines of where you pour in the ale first and let it settle, then pour the stout on a spoon so the stout is separated on top of the ale.

by Jed MC on Sep 30, 2009 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Black and tans are tourist/frat boy drinks.

Don’t mix your beers.

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a bartender friend at an Irish pub in London

who, when someone would order a black and tan – usually an American, it must be said – laid down about an inch worth of under-tap-collected-slop as the first layer of the B&T. His rationale was that if people are dumb enough to order two beers in the same glass they can enjoy 12 at once just as easily.

Sure, it’s gross, but still, the point stands.

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Once again it falls to me to stick up for my country

I’ve never seen an American order a black and tan or a shandy in the UK. However, I’ve seen thousands and thousands of locals do it. Just like I’ve seen plenty of Germans order Radlers, but I’ve somehow resisted the temptation myself.

It’s a British tradition. I don’t like it, but I understand it a far sight more than a god damned shandy.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think there's a place for it.

Sometimes you might even drink blends of beers without realizing it, Burton Baton for example.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Sep 30, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

It has been about 10 years since I've made one.

I was never in a frat and when I traveled I’d ask a local what they were drinking and go for that. Sometimes the memory of something is better than the experience really was.

by Jed MC on Oct 1, 2009 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bullpen head-slap explanation.

Wetteland feels the bullpen has to have its collective head in the game, so the advancement of a base runner, player hits, etc are to be applauded, and if a BP member fails to applaud due to failure to pay attention to the game, he gets a head slap.

This still doesn;t explain the head slaps in the huddle before the game.

by msb on Sep 30, 2009 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Inadvertant Still-on-710 Cowherd Moment

… another reason that baseball drives me mad, remember when Spiderman was coming out, and they agreed to put spider webs on the bases and then all the baseball stick in the muds all said [assumes crochety old voice] “you’ll ruin the integrity of the game! you can’t do that!” well, here is why the NFL is ahead of baseball, for Breast Cancer Awareness month the NFL is going pink, pink hats, pink ball, you name it. This is why baseball is losing the 18-33 demographic, they won’t do anything that upsets the traditionalists, and you ladies who have been touched by breast cancer, the NFL is behind you…

by msb on Oct 1, 2009 7:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Someone nudges him later.

…baseball, on Mothers Day, baseball does it, pink bats, but that is one day, the NFL is more committed to it, a whole month, 30 days, 4 games, far more coverage because so many more people watch the NFL, and ladies, football … [just barely keeps from telling women that the NFL cares more about them] and baseball, it is one day, and I think baseball won’t do more because they are afraid of “the purists”…

by msb on Oct 1, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had missed him until 710 switched over

is he this way about everything? The lack of awareness (until he obviously was told some 30 minutes later) that it was something baseball has been doing for years (for the week leading up to the pink on Mother’s day) and then the ignoring of such small things as Breast Cancer Awareness month has been going on for 25 years and football has just now taken an interest, and it is always in October, which makes it a little hard for baseball to embrace it … eh.

by msb on Oct 1, 2009 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, his show is pretty much an opinion show.

He just makes a claim, then goes on and on about how he’s right about it.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 1, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Random but why is it Breast Cancer Awareness?

And not Cancer awareness? My mom has had ovarian and thyroid cancer but doesn’t get her own month.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 1, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't believe I'm going to be rooting for the fucking Cardinals.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

But look at the other options.

Yankees-Angels-Red Sox-Tigers (Maybe Twins, then I’d be able to root for someone else)
Dodgers-Cardinals-Phillies-Rockies (Or Braves, ugh)

I’m skipping all of the AL games unless the Twins get in.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Out of all of those I gotta go with the Rockies

but it won’t be the most exciting of postseasons because I really don’t care about the Rockies so much either, they’re just the lesser of all of those particular evils.

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by pdb on Oct 1, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm also pulling for the Rockies, but as strange as this may sound I think

a Red Sox vs Yankees ALCS will be fun to watch. I avoid their in season games like the plague, but it really is an intense rivalry that has some cache in the playoffs.

by Sec 108 on Oct 1, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

That sounds like a fishy situation.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, ???

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

This might be the truest statement you have ever made.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

(Shudder)

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

The thought of the announcing is making me physically ill.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

JeterJeterJeterJeterJeterJeterJeterJeterJeterJeterJeterJeter.

Arod.

JeterJeterJeterJeterJeterJeterJeterJeterJeterJeterJeterJeter.

by msb on Oct 1, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

More like JOBAJOBAJOBAJOBAJOBAJOBA

JOBAJOBAJOBAJOBAJOBAJOBAJOBAJOBAJOBAJOBAJOBAJOBA

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be okay with that

so long as the team that wins the NL wins the series in like 5 games.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 1, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is a true statement.

In May it doesn’t matter, but it’s fun when shit gets real.

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by pdb on Oct 1, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll be rooting for the Phillies because I'd like to see Pedro pitch again

and the NL doesn’t hit broadcast TV until the WS. I almost feel guilty about wanting to see the Yankees, but I’m really rooting against the Red Sox and Angels.

by Jed MC on Oct 1, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

My only rooting interest is not-Angels.

Though I guess I’d like to see Detroit win it all.

by Teej on Oct 1, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was hoping this comment was by Poochie.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 1, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great Seasons that never were

Edgar Martinez 1996:

Coming into the AS break, he was sporting a 1.172 OPS and was on pace for 120 extra base hits. He cracked his ribs going after a pop up and slugged .441 the rest of the season.

by Poochie on Oct 1, 2009 8:58 AM PDT reply actions  

I had to teach myself to text recently after holding out for the longest time.

I, for one, and proud of how good I’ve gotten – although it still takes a while because LL has made me almost viscerally averse to chatspeak.

by Decatur on Oct 1, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

This poll seems to be fraudulant.

Normally I wouldn’t link to a site like fivethirtyeight.com, but the whole L’affaire de Strategic Vision seems kosher for LL.

by Decatur on Oct 1, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I actually would have gotten that question wrong

for some reason, I flipped the map in my head, pictured the Atlantic and thought “oh, the Pacific” anyway

by seattlebruin on Oct 1, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

What else could it be though?

Took me a second but then I went ‘duh’ because there’s really nothing else it can be.

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by pdb on Oct 1, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Zomg no religion and all that, but it is Oklahoma.

I imagine a good number of kids answered “God,” considering the way it’s phrased.

by Teej on Oct 1, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I missed that.

Emancipation Proclamation! Oh, man. This is saddening.

by Teej on Oct 1, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had a 24 year old coworker say to me yesterday

“what the heck is the Emancipation Proclomation?”
“who on earth is James Madison?”
“why would anyone know what the Cold War was about?”
“who learns stuff about the Vietnam War?”
“how should I know who the President during the Civil War was?”
“I didn’t even know there was a Missouri River.”

Also, full quiz located here. Take quiz #2 (the bottom one) which has all of the questions in it.

by seattlebruin on Oct 8, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't you work with people and for a company that design jets.

That’s a bit unsettling. Then again throw me a math quiz and watch me flounder around with that sucker for a bit.

by Kermit. on Oct 9, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is absolutely stunning.

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 12, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got ten out of ten without thinking

There is zero way that nobody got eight out of ten on that in the whole state. None.

by Graham MacAree on Oct 1, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

It’s not just that it’s a fake, it’s a REEEEAAALLLLLY bad fake.

by marc w on Oct 1, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really don't care that they fake polls

I care when they do it badly enough at a cursory glance at the data is enough to unravel the whole damn thing. The former is manipulation of the public which is all well and good, the second is a direct insult to anyone who reads the results.

by Graham MacAree on Oct 1, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, that's the point.

The pollster comes off worse than these imaginary high schoolers.
Or rather, the client that paid for this shit (and then publicized it) comes off worse than the high-schoolers.

by marc w on Oct 1, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn't jive with the mental image of Africa.

Makes complete sense as far as infrastructure, it still doesn’t fit in the picture.

by Kermit. on Oct 1, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

This week's special section in the Economist! We're very topical here at LL.

It talks about how not only has the widespread use of cell phones obviated the need for a physical telecom infrastructure, but it’s also allowed for a new (and highly popular) way to pay for things, obviating the need for a more traditional banking system.

I’m jealous that apparently everyone in Nairobi can pay for a beer or a cab ride by texting, while I cannot do the same in a wealthy US state.

by marc w on Oct 1, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mobile technology came to Africa before land-lines did

it’s a lot cheaper to construct and equip and so most telecoms didn’t bother with landlines when they started serving the African market.

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by pdb on Oct 1, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps a dumb question

The story mentioned that the villagers had mobile phones. How did they charge them? Or do they run on replaceable batteries?

by Teej on Oct 1, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Usually they will have a few spares, and go into a larger town with electricity and swap them for a fee or charge them there.

I wish I could find where I saw that.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also the problem of recycling the copper wire for money.

People steal it here in the states, and we’re so advanced.

by Kermit. on Oct 1, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

That test was pretty glitchy

I entered Sydney and Montreal a half dozen times with no luck before it failed me.

by Robert on Oct 1, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got 20

and I had no idea the two I missed had ever hosted an Olympics.

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by pdb on Oct 1, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

One I missed was moderately obvious (damn), one I maybe heard a rumor about them hosting, and one I’m positive I’d never heard before.

by marc w on Oct 1, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

This list is bunk.

No way Notre Dame is that far down.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

From the people I've encountered...

Most don’t seem to know that University of Pennsylvania is in the Ivy League, and they also seem to think Duke is. It’s sort of the forgotten Ivy.

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by JY on Oct 1, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I escaped!

NYU is easily douchier than us these days though, so I won’t make a fuss about it. The average person here is still kind of douchey, but not outrageously or distinctively so. Mash-up the Brown entry and the NYU entry with a splash of Princeton and you’d have Columbia.

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by JY on Oct 1, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to figure out how to adapt it for weddings/bars mitzvah/funerals

Would the polar bear have a bouquet of flowers that it used to destroy moons and lesser cities? Or would it destroy ex-boyfriends instead?
Would the polar bear destroy satellites with the torah?

by marc w on Oct 1, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jesus rolls away the stone, only to have the bear come from behind and suckerpunch him ala Bertuzzi?

Bear knocks over building, then takes a huge slapshot that uses the kabaa to decapitate the entire Hindu pantheon?
Bear sweeps up all hog farms in the US, shoots them into the sun? Then bear puts down stick and rests for a day before the carnage picks up again.

by marc w on Oct 1, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, look.

Stephen Kahn re-signed. Imagine that.

Also this OTFPOTD has more posts in one day than the other one had in eight. Well done.

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by JY on Oct 1, 2009 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

If you could go back and re-air any post-season game in baseball history but it couldn't be a Mariner game,

Which one(s) would you pick?

I want to rewatch Game 7 of last year’s ALCS, the 2007 one-game playoff between Colorado and Arizona, and Game 6 of the ‘91 World Series (Kirby Puckett: "We’ll see you tomorrow night").

Any others?

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 1, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Let me try that again:

it was Colorado and San Diego.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 1, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

But damnit, the 01 WS was supposed to be US.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 1, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see games 4-7 of that World Series.

As much as I hated it, the back to back walkoffs by the Yankees was incredible.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Oct 1, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

2006 NLCS Game 7

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

And whatever game this is from:

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

2008 ALDS Game 2!

Rec for sadfrankie.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Oct 1, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Game 6 OR 7 from 91 series

Game 6 in ’85 WS, Game 1 in ’88 WS, Game 6 in ’86 WS, Game 7 in 92 NLCS, Game 5 in 86 ALCS, Game 5 in 2005 NLCS

by marc w on Oct 1, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about 2003 NLCS Game 6:

The Bartman ball incident. I’ll put that on the list.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 1, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

'89 world series game 3.

Just to go down memory lane.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 1, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bad memory lane.

I lived across the bay in Alameda for that earthquake.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 1, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

That part sucked.

I hated the A’s so much back then.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 1, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you start juicing too?

The mullets were nothing without the thigh-sized forearms!

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by pdb on Oct 1, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I had.

I would have kicked ass at recess kickball.

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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 1, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

They were really something else.

I had Canseco’s 40/40 poster on my wall even though I also hated him for beating the Giants.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 1, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

91 Game 6

My buddy just had game 6 and 7 transferred from his old VHS tapes to DVD, and we watch them somewhat regularly. Besides the incredible game action, highlights include Danny Gladden’ halo-mullet and Lasorda’s incoherent ramblings. Also, Pat O’Brien (!) working the dugouts and the most laughable rudimentary computer graphics ever made. They actually zoom the camera in on a monitor! Game 7 is actually kind of boring until the end. Shane Mack!

by waldo rojas on Oct 1, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, they were cutting edge.

Primordial is probably a better word. It was a primordial PitchF/X.

by waldo rojas on Oct 1, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

GLADDEN!

Tettleton, Gladden, Cecil Fielder, Fryman, Deer, and an aging Lou Whitaker/Alan Trammell/Kirk Gibson. That ‘93 Tigers line-up had it all. THAT’S entertainment.

by marc w on Oct 1, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would hope

his father is also named David

by Dewey N on Oct 1, 2009 1:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Obligatory

Neville Neville reference here.

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by pdb on Oct 1, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, netball is a real sport?

I thought it was something Flight of the Conchords made up to represent a generic sport.

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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 1, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Statcorner is still a malicious site?

Well alrighty.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

You may want to contact Websense.

http://www.websense.com/content/contact-us.aspx

There used to be a form, but I guess they got rid of it. Emailing might help, though.

We get our updates daily from them directly, so it’s got to be in their DB as of this morning.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

That being said, I'll go ahead and reclassify it here.

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by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Between the two, I'd choose pad thai, but only because I don't particularly like the thinly sliced meat on the pad see iew.

Given the choice though, I usually go with the thai fried rice, or any of the assorted curries.

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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 1, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

I definitely love the curries and such, but if I am in a noodle frame of mind those two always battle in my mind for supremacy.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 1, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same.

But given the choice of any Thai dish, I’ll always go with a curry or Swimming Rama.

☊

by royalcurve on Oct 1, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

pad kee mao everytime.

Between those, I’d go with Pad Se Ew unless it was a really nice place.

by waldo rojas on Oct 1, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

A good Pad Thai is actually kind of complex, and easy to screw up.

Pad Se Ew is pretty simple, and even the cheapo places do it pretty well.

by waldo rojas on Oct 1, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love pad see ew but if I'm going out I order pad thai

Rationale: When I cook pad thai at home I use jarred sauce b/c it typically takes too much time to make real sauce. Pad see ew sauce is much easier for me to re-create at home

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 1, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Thai restaurant employees roll their eyes every time somebody orders pad thai.

It has to be their most popular dish, and probably by a significant margin.

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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 1, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Glop Balls....

General Tsao’s chicken was apparently invented in Alberta

by marc w on Oct 1, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is jazz a food?

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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 1, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite thing ever was the Big Tymerz website FAQ section.

One of the questions was “what does it mean to be a Big Tymer?” And the answer (to paraphrase) was: “It mean whatever you do you do it Big Time. You slingin’ on the corner? Do it Big Time. Workin’ a stable of hos? Do it big time. Puttin’ work in? Do it Big Time. Going to college to get an education? Do it Big Time.”

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 1, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seattle-centric nostalgic video of the day:

The Young Fresh Fellows – She Sees Color/99 Girls. On the Spud Goodman Show!

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by pdb on Oct 1, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

My goodness I'm feeling nostalgic all of the sudden.

Sorry about that, pdb.

Poetry man, Accordian Joe, etc. I loved the interview Spud did with Randy Johnson back in ’93-94 or whatever.

by marc w on Oct 1, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

It happens

Every once in a while I spend some time browsing the Narwuarchives. Some of those old interviews are hysterical. Doot doola doot doo…

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by pdb on Oct 1, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or even the Nardwuarchives

was gonna be such a great pun. Ah well.

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by pdb on Oct 1, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, but it might be required to put "Jones 9" on the back

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 1, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been down a couple times by the Northwest Baseball Institute on 3rd and Hanford

but they have not been open at their established “opening time” of 2:30. Today I went down there, and the signs advertising their occupancy appear to have been removed. Does anyone know anything about this, or otherwise where I can find a decent batting cage in the City of Seattle?

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 1, 2009 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey did you know that It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is brought to by Dave & Busters?

I did, because they were shoving it down our throats the entire episode. That combined with the uncharacteristic cursing and the total lack of funny makes for an absolute terrible episode.

I mean, wow that was bad.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Oct 1, 2009 7:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep.

I haven’t enjoyed this new season at all, and I’m worried that the show is done being funny.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 2, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

You worry to much.

I’m still convinced there best episodes are a hour long.

They just cut it off to short – We finally got a glimpse of the charlie’s past sexual abuse and they cut it off.

Plus last week was fucking hilarious.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 2, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's the thing though, I didn't even find that funny, at all. Nothing Charlie did even made me smile.

When I saw the crap people part in the preview, I figured it was gonna be hilarious, but to me it wasn’t.

Hopefully it’s better next week, but I don’t really like this season so far.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Oct 2, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

What uncharacteristic swearing?

They swear all the time.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Oct 2, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but the way they used it in this episode just seemed unnatural.

I don’t know, I was just turned off by the entire episode I guess.

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by Goose on Oct 2, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

De Konink.

johnbai mentioned it once, so it’s not something that no one ever talks about, but he hasn’t posted in months. So it counts.

(Where IS johnbai? Did no one go to the tennis event?)

by marc w on Oct 1, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one talks much about Caracole, a Belgian brewery I like. And Nostradamus seems a good winter beer.

I also just picked up a couple Victory brews, the Tripel and an imperial stout.

But usually I’m too busy trying new things to go back to standards.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Oct 2, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've heard that and now I think I should check them out.

I’ve been listening to the John Doe and the Sadies album quite a bit in the last week or so. John Doe is one of those guys that can’t really do anything wrong in my eyes, and the fact that he’s teamed up with the Sadies just makes him that much more awesome.

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by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I stopped trying to understand why things appeal to people a long time ago.

I also don’t care if people grasp why I like the things I do, but more to your point yeah these guys seem rather boring to me.

by Sec 108 on Oct 2, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I gave up on KEXP a while back because oh my god it's horrible now

I used to love KCMU, and when it became KEXP it was still great for a while, but in the last five years or so….ugh. Their specialty shows are still good but for general listening I just don’t bother any more.

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by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

WFMU is where it's at, but I can't get it in the car.

I can usually get by with NPR but a homie don’t want to listen to no Prairie Home Companion.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 2, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

one of the most annoying things about public radio down here

is that during the week they have normal enough programming, but twice a day they run the goddamn Garrison Keillor Writer’s Corner Or Some Goddamn Shit and it’s usually at random times. So there’s no avoiding that fucktard. Words cannot express how much I loathe Garrison Keillor.

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by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll see that comment and raise it

He’s like the comedy version of Coldplay.

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by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I meant more in the sense of "what is funny about this?"

People that normally like funny things like him. I don’t understand.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 2, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's a humorist, at least I've heard him described as a humorist.

I’ve never understood that term. Comedy light? Not really funny, but ok it’s a little amusing?

by Kermit. on Oct 2, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well sir it's been an uneventfull week in Badger falls. Where the men are robust, the women are pink cheeked, and the children are pink cheeked and robust.

At the Apple Biscuit Cafe, where the smiles are free, don’t cha know… Speninquest studied the menu, and finally ordered the same thing he has every day.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 2, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I just want someone to go on that show and do a five minute improv

about how speninquest’s kid was repeatedly buggered by the town drunk. In public. In broad daylight.

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by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh... yeah.

I think that KEXP is probably worth listening to once every few months, but they tend to get massive boners over bands that I don’t find to be all that interesting, re: The Arcade Fire, Arctic Monkeys, Jesse Sykes and the Sweet Hereafter (or whatever they where the vocalist sounds like a dying old man). There was a period of time when I couldn’t get into my car without Crazy by Gnarls Barkley coming on.

There are rare instances where I’ll listen and be blown away for two or three hours straight, but the programming style is becoming increasingly like everything else.

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by JY on Oct 2, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't listen to their broadcasts, but I do check out their podcasts.

I find it the easiest way to boil down their programming to the relevant bands of interest.

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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 2, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

That seems like a solid method.

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by JY on Oct 2, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have never and will never understand the Arcade Fire

I can’t go as far as saying I dislike them, I have Neon Bible and it’s…fine, I guess, but I don’t really see what all the fuss is about. But the one that always got me is TV On The Radio. I heard RAVES about that band for months, then got the Cookie Mountain record and….wow it’s not good.

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by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I missed out on several of these.

Arcade Fire, Arctic Monkeys, The Rapture…and I’m sure there’re more that I’m forgetting.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 2, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I kinda like Arctic Monkeys

But a lot of that is that they put on a really good live show.

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by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

TVOTR had some character before

but their albums have increasingly become a staticky yawn that doesn’t have all that much depth to it. Even their earlier stuff, which I liked better, I thought of as being groundwork for something innovative later on, and then they went off the rails.

Solid live shows though.

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by JY on Oct 2, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also Lady Sovereign.

Jesus Fuck I did not understand why she was supposed to be good.

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by JY on Oct 2, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

See this is my problem with KEXP and the alt-music intelligentsia in general;

Lady Sovereign had a couple of fun songs and was an interesting character, but because people feel like they have discovered something new or special or whatever, it becomes “Oh my God, it;s brilliant! Brilliant I say! Someone alert Pitchfork!” Nothing can be pretty good any more.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 2, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

And bands blow up before they actually put anything substantive out in the world

because of one song on MySpace. By the time a big buzz band gets around to putting out a proper album, the world has moved on to the next one.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mt. St. Helens Vietnam Band can go ahead and blow me.

They sold out their first show at Neumo’s without ever having put out an album. They knew the right people and put out one YouTube video that wasn’t even of a song, the Stranger started slobbering all over them and boom, they’ve been a band for about six months and now they’re huge.

Which doesn’t even begin to get into how terrible the Stranger’s music coverage is and how much they contribute to keeping the music scene in Seattle bad and insular.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 2, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pitchfork is run by wankers.

I know we’ve had this conversation a million times though.

Yeah, the whole Arctic Monkeys are the new Beatles thing too was not a ringing endorsement in my mind. But I’ve also noticed that a lot of these bands that everyone hypes have maybe one good album and all their follow-up efforts start veering into… not really unlistenable, but not worth the time or the money. Interpol and Franz Ferdinand would be two instances of this that I could come up with off-hand.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 2, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

A lot of that is because unless your a musical genius on the level of Lennon/McCartney/Davies/Merritt

writing a quality album takes a lot of time and first albums have generally taken years to come to completion. Second albums are generally rushed by record labels (and this is especially true of bands on majors) in an effort to cash in on the success of the first one.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 2, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Which is probably part of the problem

No, I’m well aware, a lot of those next releases are filled out by B-sides from previous LPs and whatnot that are just recorded in a more formal setting. Some of them aren’t bad, but when it comes down to it they’re songs that weren’t worth putting on the first, and that doesn’t seem to work all that well unless you’re Radiohead and apparently still have things lying around from the OK Computer sessions that really weren’t all that bad.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 2, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

The second one was what made me lose interest :\

Also I guess my tastes shifted and I stopped paying attention.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 2, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope I don't sound bitchy, because I'm not trying to be, but I make it a habit of not justifying my music tastes to people.

Just like I don’t expect them to justify their music tastes to me. One person sees brilliance in The Ramones, I just see a band whose songs sound exactly the same. I see something worth hearing in a band like The Maldives, and somebody else just finds them boring and derivative.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 2, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nor should you need to defend yourself. Taste is different for each of us.

I stopped trying to explain to people how I can love both dance music and punk a long time ago.

by Sec 108 on Oct 2, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I used to try to both justify my tastes and force people to agree with them because mine are right dammit

but then as I got older I realized that I don’t really care if people like what I like. If Britney Spears is your thing, go for it. if Prairie Home Companion is the funniest thing to you since Wonder Bread, more power to you.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not asking you to justify it, not at all.

I just wish someone could explain to me what they see in this entire movement in music at the moment. Not because I think it’s terrible and people owe me an explanation, but because so many people whose taste is generally similar to mine love it and I cannot figure out why.

It’s not a slight or an indictment of anyone’s taste, because taste is of course subjective and besides I like plenty of stuff that other people think is bad, I just find it bizarre.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 2, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm using this for an upcoming OTFPOTD

“What’s your favorite archipelago?”

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 2, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pshaw.

They sold out years ago. Just derivative stuff; it’s not even trying to hide its influences, and thus can’t help seeming like a haphazard pastiche: a dash of Norway, some Solomon Islands, bit of the ol’ Orkneys.

Lot of buzz around the Lofotens these days, and I gotta say, they’re legit. I’m not saying they arrived ex nihilo/sui generis; the story of their formation and development will sound reallllly familiar to fans of other archipelagos. But they feel different, stark, fresh. Check ’em out.

by marc w on Oct 2, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   4 recs

You're way too good at this.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 2, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll be happy with my New Zealands and Japans.

I’ve gotten into the Aleutians but I think that’s as far as I’ll go.

by Mariner John on Oct 2, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy...

Has anybody heard Ryan Gosling’s band, Dead Man’s Bones? Amazingly solid indie folk. Check out the song “My Body’s a Zombie for You”.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 2, 2009 8:54 AM PDT reply actions  

I cannot stop listening to that song.

It was a song-of-the-day on one of my music podcasts (KCRW I think) last week and I’ve listened to it at least twice a day since. It’s crazily addictive.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

KEXP had it as their song of the day.

I had never heard the band before, but freaking loved the song. Imagine my surprise when I looked up information about them and discovered that Ryan Gosling was one half of the band.

With Zoey Deschanel’s strong album with M. Ward, Scarlett Johanssons decently strong forays into recording music, and now Ryan Gosling wowing me with a song, I don’t have to cringe every time I hear that an actor is making an album…at least on the indie side of things.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 2, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still not sold on Zooey Deschanel's singing career though

I love her voice, but for the style of songs she makes with M. Ward it’s almost too good, if that makes sense – she’s very technically proficient, she hits every note exactly right, and she phrases her stuff well, but the M. Ward stuff needs to be a little less pure and a little more ragged, in my opinion.

I had no idea Ryan Gosling was in Dead Man’s Bones. It’s intriguing.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I give Scarlett points for her selection...

but she doesn’t have enough emotional depth in her voice to pull off most if not all of those songs that she covered, and the decision to turn Fawn into a four+ minute organ piece was questionable.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 2, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Has anybody watched ABC's "Flashforward"?

I checked out last night’s episode, and it seemed decent with a chance to grow into something pretty fun.

It gets bonus points for being created by Brannon Braga (Star Trek TNG producer), and David S. Goyer (writer, Dark Knight, Batman Begins, Dark City). Plus the cast is pretty strong: Joseph Fiennes, John Cho, Sonya Walger (Penelope on Lost), and Dominic Monaghan.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 2, 2009 9:14 AM PDT reply actions  

For lack of better words, it looks fun and awful.

I haven’t watched it because I’m sure I’d find it ridiculous but just addictive enough to keep watching every week, and I have enough shows to watch.

by Teej on Oct 2, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

We've got the first two episodes dvr'd

but can’t quite bring ourselves to watch them yet, because it looks like it could be a trainwreck just as easily as it could be interesting.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's leaning more toward interesting right now.

There are cringe-worthy moments, just like there are in Lost. But I’ve learned to to take the good with the bad with most network TV shows.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 2, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't watch this or Flashforward, but I did watch a few episodes of Glee last night.

Better than I expected… although I admit, I didn’t even know what it was about when I turned it on. So expectations were pretty much zero. I’ve just heard alot of people going “Squeeee! Glee is so gooooood!”, so I wanted to see what the fuss was.

☊

by royalcurve on Oct 2, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Glee is tremendously entertaining

and it’s calmed down quite a bit in its first few episodes – the first couple featured characters that were very broad stereotypes that telegraphed their every move, but the last couple eps have mixed things up a bit and made the characters more believable and less strident (especially the not-pregnant-pregnant wife) and the show’s a lot better as a result.

And Jane Lynch is AWESOME.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

For my taste they use her just enough in every show

Any more exposure to that character would irritate me to no end, but you get just enough to go “wow that’s funny” and not enough to go “PLEASE STOP NOW”.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha.

I half love her. Her character is a touch much for me so far, but the one I really like is the pretty, neurotic guidance counselor.

☊

by royalcurve on Oct 2, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is a travesty that there are approximately 800 shows about cake on cable tv

and not a single gotdamn show about pie. Pie is clearly superior to cake in every conceivable way.

by waldo rojas on Oct 2, 2009 9:17 AM PDT reply actions  

And if I wanted a cake for a special, special occasion

I don’t want to eat one that has been fondled and pawed by people I don’t know.

by msb on Oct 2, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you even allowed to eat those cakes?

The nutty ones that look like exact replicas of Disneyland and whatnot?

☊

by royalcurve on Oct 2, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

When we got married we tried a cake maker

that dealt exclusively in crazy fondant cakes like that, just because she made some cool ones. They were all nearly inedible. Four inches of fondant and 1/8 inch of cake does not make for a tasty wedding treat.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is my rationale for the Olympics as well

I like watching people that are the best at what they do do what it is they’re best at. Even if I don’t give a damn about badminton for three years and 51 weeks, watching Olympic badminton is fun because you know it’s this badminton player’s one moment in the sun, that they’ve been working for their whole lives.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not really.

Badminton is an athletic pursuit. People love playing it. The Olympics give them something to work for and for five minutes, people give a shit. I think that’s neat.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 2, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose

The only Olympics I’ve watched over the past few years was last year whenever I saw Strasburg was in a game.

by Graham MacAree on Oct 2, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know plenty of people who don't give a shit about the Olympics.

Which is fine, and I understand not giving a shit about the Olympics. But I also don’t see it being that hard to understand the appeal, either.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 2, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I understand people tuning to, say, the opening ceremony.

I don’t understand the world’s collective ability to turn on caring about the events once every four years and then off immediately afterwards. If they were massive sports with tonnes of air time, sure.

by Graham MacAree on Oct 2, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like I said before, I don't have much desire to watch competitive swimming, track and field, gymnastics or skiing most of the time.

But I find sports like that interesting to watch it every now and again. And since the Olympics happen every four years, and they’re on TV constantly, I can cram all my obscure sport watching into two weeks.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 2, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's the same thing that's awesome about the World Cup

it’s a big party with some sports thrown in. A lot more fun to attend than to watch on TV.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

But people care about football.

If there are bands of hardcore long jump fans they hide pretty well

by Graham MacAree on Oct 2, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's more the lazy, easy nationalism than the sports I think

it gives people a chance to say MY COUNTRY RULES AND YOURS SUCKS because, y’know, that doesn’t ever happen outside the sporting world

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

dingdingding

No one cares about, oh, canoe racing even quadrennially, but it’s easy to root for YOUR canoe racers/rhythmic gymnasts/wrestlers and to wonder what sorts of chemicals have been mixed into the food of those canoe racers from country X .
I know you don’t understand the appeal of college sports, but it’s the same thing. No, the entire campus doesn’t pack the stands to watch college baseball, but most students/fans would want the team to win. Their rooting interest is already chosen, and that’s enough – despite not knowing any of the players on either team – to catch their interest every once in a while. I found myself doing this at a college rugby match years ago. Rugby’s basically the only sport I simply can’t enjoy, but there I was cheering when it appeared our team was doing something positive, shouting abuse at the other team when a small fight broke out (or maybe it was part of the game, I don’t know).

by marc w on Oct 2, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I finally figured out the rules for Rugby.

(It took fucking long enough)

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 2, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's what a scrum is.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 2, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

That I don't understand the rules of Rugby is a large part of its charm.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Oct 2, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't root FOR the UK at rowing

Rowing is a stupid sport (and I root for Oxford at the boat races because I hate boaties).

by Graham MacAree on Oct 2, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rowing is a sport?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 2, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Henley is one of the most widely televised amateur sporting contests in the world

And it can’t be because Oxbridge has THAT many alumni, and it also can’t be because people give a shit about toffs in rowboats.
This makes infinitely less sense to me than the Olympics. Maybe people tune in hoping for drownings?

by marc w on Oct 2, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

TRADITION!

oh sorry that’s Fiddler On the Roof.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I can watch most of it except for the ceremonies.

But I’m up half the night and catch replays of World’s Strongest Man and Bull Riding and whatever else is on VS and ESPN^56, so finding interest in odd “sports” is commonplace for me.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 2, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I'm pretty sure I saw cockfighting on ESPN Deportes at 4AM once.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 2, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 2, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bull riding is not a sport. Rodeo was originally about skill.

There is no reason to ride a bull. This is officially the shortest rant of my life.

by Kermit. on Oct 2, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hence the quotes on "sports".

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 2, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

So you did, so you did.

The rage came on with a quickness, so I didn’t take the time to process the end of that sentence. Won’t happen again.

by Kermit. on Oct 2, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's ok, I still yell at the TV whenever they call Nascar a sport, or show it on ESPN.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 2, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Has anybody seen Sam Rockwell's new movie "Moon"?

I’m intrigued by the plot description.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Oct 2, 2009 10:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes and it's really damn good.

And I’m not a sci-fi guy. But it’s a really well done film, very spare and kinda slow but damn good.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 2, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Boundary Bay

I’m bummed I’m getting in on this late. Bellingham residents will know that the Scotch Ale from Boundary Bay Brewery kicks a lot of tail. Unfortunately it isn’t distributed very widely.

People love their IPA as well.

If you’re ever in Bellingham, check it out. Boundary Bay is located downtown on Railroad avenue.

by zeeehjee on Oct 2, 2009 6:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah.

They make some decent stuff, but their Scotch Ale, while solid, is nothing exemplary. They’re solid, but there seems to be this cult of Boundary Bay, which I don’t get.

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 4, 2009 2:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is what I have learned about the Seahawks from Fox.

PeytonManningPeytonManningPeytonManningDwightFreenyPeytonManning.

Seneca Wallace has had a lot of experience filling in for Matt Hasselbeck.

PeytonManningPeytonManningPeytonManningPeytonManningDefense made changes.

Seahawks injuries, oooh

by msb on Oct 4, 2009 10:30 AM PDT reply actions  

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