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OTFPOTD 9/29 - Impromptu Beer Discussion Edition

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We have not discussed excellent beer in a while. Let us commence discussing beer that is good so Dave Cameron will have reason to refer to us as "that blog that drinks a lot" next year as well.

What have you had recently that's been good? All-time favorites? Favorites in each style? Preferred breweries?

City you would most like to live in for no reason other than beer? (really only two acceptable answers here, far as I can tell)

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recently awesome – nothing new springs to mind. Recently, I’ve had Stone’s Vertical Epic Ale 09-09-09 which was very good, Speedway Stout which was awesome as usual, Kona’s Pipeline Porter (which is off the HOOK), Lost Abbey’s witbier, which was very, very average)

All-time favorites
AleSmith – Speedway Stout
The Bruery – Orchard White, Autumn Maple, Saison de Lente, Trade Winds
Kona – Pipeline Porter
Rogue – Hazelnut Brown
Stone – Imperial Russian Stout, Smoked Porter
Lost Abbey – Devotion, Ten Commandments, Judgment Day, Serpent’s Stout, Duck Duck Gooze, Veritas, Cuvee de Tomme

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Preferred breweries

Rogue, Lost Abbey, Bruery, Full Sail are the bestest

And for nothing other than beer, you really can’t beat SD, but Portland is an awfully close second

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Darn I just saw Devotion but didn't buy it.

I’ll get it tomorrow.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Sep 29, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My wife bought

three of these a while back. She also had one on tap last night and says it’s one of the best porters she’s ever had. I cannot attest as I despise the taste of coffee so I didn’t try it, but she knows her beer.

I went to HUB last night and tried their Velvet ESB. I liked it quite a bit – I’d never had a HUB beer before, and I’m pretty impressed. Amnesia beers are also really good, as are Laurelwood and I could name a few other breweries here to disprove Bruin’s cute but misguided assertion upthread that SD is better than Portland for beer but I won’t because that’d be piling on. coughLompoccough

I’ve also been drinking a lot of reds lately, I just finished a six pack of Bear Republic Red Rocket.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 29, 2009 1:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What, I acknowledged that the answer should be Portland or SD

SD has three insanely good breweries and several more excellent ones. I just happen to like Lost Abbey more than the Portland brews, so SD wins out for me

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

COTIXAN!

Countdown: 3 more days!

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Sep 30, 2009 9:38 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

You should have seen my wife's eyes light up

when we saw it was on tap where we went last night. That’s one of the best things about Portland – we just went to our neighborhood pizza place (well, our old neighborhood, but still) and they actually had it on tap, which was kind of surprising (it’s kind of a divey place) but still awesome.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 29, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mirror Mirror is amazing too.

First thing when I tried a Mirror Mirror was, “Hey they should do this with Black Butte”, while they were ahead of me :) They need a double Obsidian stout. Some super imperial stout or something.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing this is aimed at me

I doubt it though. I’ll be on around 6 PM. I suggest we play boot camp all day and never leave the game so we can destroy noobs

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll see

if we’re still playing at 4 AM, then probably.

Also, it turns out I don’t work on the 13th, so holy crap am I going to kill some terrorists that day.

My new roommates are going to think I’m so anti-social after hearing that I like to go out. I’m gonna move in with them and within three weeks, Forza 3 and MW2 are coming out. It’s going to be awesome

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You asked for it!

By style:

  • Stout- Goose Island Bourbon County. Hon. Mention: Stone Russian Imperial, AleSmith Speedway, Troubadour Obscura, any of Southern Tier’s stouts.
  • IPA- Russian River Pliny the Elder. Hon. Mention: Port Hop 15, Stone Ruination, Dogfish Head 90 Minute, Southern Tier unEarthly.
  • Amber- Fish Organic Amber. Hon. Mention: Anderson Valley Boont, Deschutes Twilight.
  • Porter- Deschutes Black Butte XXI. Hon. Mention: Kona Pipeline, Deschutes Black Butte, Alaskan Smoked Porter, Stone Smoked Vanilla Porter.
  • Sour- Allagahs Confluence. Hon. Mention: Russian River Consecration, Duchess de Bourgogne.
  • Barleywine- Hair of the Dog Fred. Hon. Mention: Deschutes Mirror Mirror, Southern Tier Back Burner, Alaskan Barleywine.
  • Winter- Anderson Valley Winter Solstice. Hon. Mention: Alaskan Winter, Deshutes Jubelale (this year’s at least,) Sierra Nevada Celebration.
  • Session- Sierra Nevada Torpedo. Hon. Mention: Anchor Steam, Deschutes Twilight, Victory Prima Pils, Kona Longboard Lager.
  • Party!- Rainier. Hon. Mention: Deschutes Twilight, Kona Longboard Lager.
  • Breweries, in no particular order: Southern Tier, Russian River, Lost Abbey/Port, Deschutes, Stone.

by acblue on Sep 29, 2009 1:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I can barely comprehend the awesomeness of Pipeline Porter

I’m rather certain it’s actually my favorite beer of all time, above even The Bruery’s Orchard White

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really want to try the Kona Imperial Stout.

My mom went to Hawaii and told be she brought me back some beer you could only get on the island. It turned out to be the worst Amber I have ever had in my entire life.

by acblue on Sep 29, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeebus that's a good list.

I don’t really have anything to add or quibble with. I’m…. i need a fix! Someone say something stupid!

by marc w on Sep 29, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh and the rest of your answers

(I was so blinded by SD beer > Portland beer I couldn’t think straight there for a minute)

All time favorites:
Anderson Valley Summer Solstice
Jubelale
Rogue Hazelnut Brown Nectar
Gritty McDuff’s Halloween Ale (a shiny new penny for any LL’ers in Maine or New England that will go to Gritty’s and get some of this and ship it to me, as it’s not distributed outside Maine I don’t think)
Lompoc Proletariat Red

Preferred breweries (in no order):
Rogue
Amnesia
Lompoc
Deschutes
Stone
Smuttynose/Portsmouth
Anderson Valley
My friend Scott

It would take me too long to list favorites by type of beer – there’s a ton of them.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 29, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll take this opportunity to promote homebrew!

If you’ve never brewed your own, let me give you a few reasons to give it a shot.
- If you like dark beers, be intrigued that dark homebrews are easier for the beginner because dark malt roast flavors mask many minor off-flavors that are common in beginner’s homebrew. Don’t by shy, make your first brew an imperial chocolate stout and you will amaze yourself.
- Unfiltered beer includes the yeast which has been part of beer drinking for thousands of years. Part of the reason beer used to be so important is that (and it’s been scientifically proven) you can get your entire B-vitamin intake from brewer’s yeasts. A big factor in hangovers is the B-vitamins your body burns processing the alcohol, and I’ve never heard of anyone getting a hangover from homebrew except really extreme alcoholic brews.
- $15 for 5 gallons of premium brew sound good to you? Once you have a yeast culture going (can get one free from your local brewery, I use Fish Tail yeast), and brew all-grain purchased by 50lb bag, homebrew is crazy cheap. Hops are also pretty easy to grow and will climb up your porch, roof, deck, whatever.
Lately I’ve been drinking some homebrewed organic blueberry wine from ’07. Had to make that sales pitch! As far as commercial brews go, some of my recent favorites are porters: Georgetown 9-lb, Alaskan Baltic, and a staple of mine Eel River Organic Porter.

by olystuart on Sep 29, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

According to my friend Scott it only takes a couple batches to get to where you're basically happy with it

the trick then is to keep refining your technique and equipment. He’s been brewing for about 10 years now and he makes some amazingly awesome beers that rival anything on my list above. He made an IPA recently that was otherworldly.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 29, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep,

For me, the biggest hint I could give a new brewer is that sanitation is HUGE. If you take that extra hour to be really thorough and not cut corners (like starting suction in a tube with your mouth, for example) the finished beer will taste much more professional. Reply to “can’t go cheap on ingredients”: that’s why the 50lb bag of barley. If you buy bulk like that, you can get the highest quality organic barley in the world for the same price you’d be paying by the pound for standard malt.

by olystuart on Sep 29, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd agree

Read Papazian’s The Complete Joy of Homebrewing Third Edition and make a few batches, it isn’t that hard. That said, it can get expensive in a hurry. Fridges, all grain setups, kegs, brew kettles, propane cookers, etc, it gets expensive fast. Once your set up it aint so bad, beer’s cheap to make.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

not cheap, but not as expensive.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I thought,

but I thought I’d give it a shot and three years later I’ve never regretted it. (subtle whisper in the background: “$15 for 5 gallons… $15 for 5 gallons…”)

by olystuart on Sep 29, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

$15 for 5 gallons isn't a realistic goal except for people with lots of experience and tons of space.

$40 for 5 gallons is more reachable. Which, still. You’re talking under $1/12oz

by Matthew on Sep 29, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it's a goal more than an every-batch-price,

and if you’re making a hop-heavy batch the price goes way up, but still: at $36/50lb. at my local brew store, 12lb. of grain (not organic) for a batch = about $10, I buy organic New Zealand hops online for $17/lb. plus shipping so a few bucks for hops, and change for some adjunct grains (quinoa, oats, etc.) or chocolate or something. That’s about $15 for a 5 gallon batch, if you have yeast already going, and if you buy cheap hops or grow your own. One trick for hops is that some people grow it as an ornamental plant and you can ask them if you can buy or have them and often they’ll let you have as many as you can pick.

by olystuart on Sep 29, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brewing all grain is not doable for many people.

Not to mention requiring a decent amount of initial capital for equipment.

by Matthew on Sep 29, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think doing a partial mash

makes comparable beer to all grain, especially for higher gravity stuff. If it’s low gravity, just do all-grain. The difficulty of it is overstated. I used to do partial mashes in an apartment with no yard.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keeping yeast cultures going

is important to keeping prices down.

You could do an herb beer and wild craft your herbs. Yarrow grows everywhere and adds a great bitter flavor to beer :)

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of herb beers

I’m still planning on doing my “wee sprucey” scotch ale, spiced with spruce and no hops.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, my guess is

Beer starts at 10% for you, so yes, $40+ is close to what it’d cost, even for an all grain beer. $30+ for the malt, $10 for the hops, and $8 for the yeast, and however much refrigeration costs, because a 10%+ beer is going to take a while to condition.

I can do mild ales for $15 :p Like 3.5% ABV.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My first batch was drinkable - Plus I was drinking while making it so its a win/win

My friend accidently made Mac N Jacks and forgot how he did it.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 29, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've done that a couple times

Made straight up mac and jacks trying to do an amber ale.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

homebrewing is fun

But bottling is a bore. If you have a brewing buddy, it makes the time go a lot faster.

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Sep 29, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I found

Using a couple Mr Beer Kegs help the bottling processing. They’re 2.5 gallons each, so racking from a 5 gallon carboy to 2 mr beers, then bottling from them helps save some time, mess, and lost beer.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting plan

I might try that next time. my former brewing buddy just kegs, which has worked well for him (and for his beer).

"Look at me! I'm Tomokazu Ohka of the Montreal Expos!"

by jessef on Sep 30, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The kegs are like $15 each

I wouldn’t ferment in them, since 2 gallons of beer isn’t worth the time, but as beer vessel w/ a spigot, they work pretty good.

I was going to buy a bottling system when I realized that they would work for bottling. I am thinking about using them as 2.5 gallon casks ala this blog entry.

I have 2 concerns, one is if they’re sealed enough to hold the CO2, and the drinking 2.5 gallons in short order. I may try to hook a CO2 gun up to keep pressure. That said, my Mild Ale should only be 3.3% or so, so I shouldn’t have a problem just drinking that over a couple days.

by chrisisasavage on Oct 1, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is this comment not green?

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 1, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because There are a lot of people that never saw/read/cared about Harry Potter (like myself)

and therefore don’t know who Snape is. I assume from pdb and your comments that he has a lisp?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Oct 1, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For those scoring at home,

“Funny People” wasn’t that good.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Oct 1, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Oct 1, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That guy reminds me of Hugo Weaving, in the sense he has a pretty distinctive style

Rhythm, tone, the entire delivery. He’s good at what he does.

by Kermit. on Sep 29, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my.

Yes, yes he is.

He is also one of the quasi-romantic leading men in Truly, madly, deeply.

by msb on Sep 29, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just as bizarrely, I just realized

that the guy that plays Eddie Harris in Major League also plays Conrad Hilton in Mad Men.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 1, 2009 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How 'bout...

The kid who plays Scut Farkus in “A Christmas Story” also plays the roadie Red Dog in “Almost Famous”.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 1, 2009 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also made soft-core porn!

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Oct 1, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if he still is, at least in name.

dunno how much scouting he does these days, as I gather he is more and more chair-bound. He also had an partial interest in the Beavers at one time.

by msb on Oct 1, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was also in that show "Titus" a few years back.

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 3, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Tick...

does anybody else think that Dee from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia looks like Tick?

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Oct 3, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps a little...?

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 4, 2009 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I loved that show.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Oct 4, 2009 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's ok

I had a friend who didn’t realize that Tick from Priscilla Queen of the Desert and Agent Smith from The Matrix were the same person….

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 3, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you get Ninkasi down there?

They have a seasonal beer – Sleigh’r – that’s pretty damn amazing, I don’t know if it’s out yet but any Ninkasi beer is worth picking up.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 29, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that I've seen, but I do most of my beer shopping at BevMo! because they're so ubiquitous

they have a great selection of local craft brews and the really well known out-of-state brewers, but their depth isn’t really great.

Even for the elite local brews, I have to find smaller shops to sell them

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the G27 or GT5?

I know GT5 got pushed back to Q1 2010.

by BrianL on Sep 29, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, I thought it did.

The gameplay wasn’t much better but the gameplay was pretty much perfect to begin with. The graphics were better and the selection of cars was amazing.

by acblue on Sep 29, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The cars have never matched GT2 until the new one

and the graphics in GT4 just weren’t a huge step up like GT5 will be. Plus, I’ve kind of come to love Forza’s emphasis on realistic gameplay and car damage that the GT series just doesn’t provide

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

GT is a superior series.

The car handling is more realistic, the customization is pretty solid as far as that goes and the graphics have always been top notch for the time.

by Kirkharbaugh on Sep 30, 2009 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have played exactly three games on my PS3.

Folklore, MLB The Show 08, and MLB The Show 09.

by BrianL on Sep 29, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

e.g. Xbox 360 wipes the floor with PS3 sheerly because of Xbox Live

which is the perfect multi-player implementation. Has population and quality and support for nearly every game

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still think the bigger problem is Sony's Cell processor.

If the architecture is absurd and overly complicated, devs are going to focus on Microsoft’s DirectX API instead.

by BrianL on Sep 29, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't play PS2 games on mine >:(

I should have bought one of the first gen PS3s off of ebay so I can play my PS2 games in upscaled video.

by BrianL on Sep 29, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not being able to play PS2 games on my PS3 or upscaled videos?

Sony nixed backwards compatibility a couple years ago. The first gen PS3s had hardware supported backwards compatibility and upscaled PS2 games to look better on modern television sets.

by BrianL on Sep 29, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

GT1 and GT2 are amazing.

GT3 sucked major balls, and I never played GT4 because GT3 was so bad that it ruined me for life.

I hear GT4 is good, though.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Sep 30, 2009 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Y'know, I never thought GT3 was anything special.

In fact, I thought it was a pretty significant fuck-up. I know it was a launch-title (more or less) for the PS2, but aside from a slight (VERY slight) upgrade in graphics from GT2, it was a huge step back when it came to car selection and track variety.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Sep 30, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I officially have zero to offer in a discussion about beer.

I’ll just wave a virtual hello to you all, sit back and read.

☊

by royalcurve on Sep 29, 2009 1:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Also, I am still INSANELY excited for The Bruery to release Black Tuesday next month

unfortunately, I can no longer link to ratebeer, but this is a 20% Imperial Stout that is getting some pretty crazy hype down in SoCal, and will be released on Oct 27. Essentially going to cut work early to go get myself a bottle or two (if they let you buy more than one)

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 2:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Some beers I've recently enjoyed.

Stone: Juxtaposition Pilsner
Harviestoun: Ola Dubh Special 30 Reserve
Allagash: Curiuex

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Sep 29, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mmmmmmm

I’d like to try the Ola Dubh Special 30. Harviestoun Old Engine Oil is one of my favorite beers.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fall beers

I didn’t like Harvest Maple all that much (not a big yam fan), but I was really surprised by the Dogfish Head Punkin Ale. Not the greatest thing I’ve ever had, but definitely the best pumpkin beer of the few I’ve tried.

by Teej on Sep 29, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The way you feel about pumpkin ale is largely determined by what you think of when you think of pumpkin as a food.

I definitely come down on the pumpkin should be savory and a tad sweet, be it pies, soups, curries, what have you. Most pumpkin ales come down on the sweet and a tad savory side, so I’m generally not a fan.

The Dogfish is quite good (although I didn’t care for last year’s) and Elysian Night Owl is quite good as well. I’m also intrigued by Southern Tier Pumking, despite the fact that it is apparently absurdly sweet; Southern Tier so routinely produces styles that I don’t usually like that blow me away that I am willing to give anything they make a shot.

by acblue on Sep 29, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The exception to the rule!

I love almost everything food that’s pumpkin based, but have never had a pumpkin ale that I’ve liked in the slightest. I’ve never had the Dogfish or the Elysian, though, so there’s that caveat.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 29, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds about right.

The reason I liked the Dogfish Head was that it was less sweet than other pumpkin beers I’ve had. Though I’ve only had two or three beforehand.

by Teej on Sep 29, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is good to hear.

I bought four bottles of Dogfish Head Punkin Ale, and have been stubbornly waiting for October to open one. Can’t wait.

by katal on Sep 29, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spaten Pils is my favorite session beer.

If’n I’m only going to have one or two, I’d go with Obsidian Stout (nitro) or Dead Guy, depending on the season.

by waldo rojas on Sep 29, 2009 3:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok so I live a bit out in the boonies

And the only place I can get beer without driving 50 miles is at Safeway. Can you find some of these really good sounding beers there? I have been mostly drinking Deschutes and Alaskan but I’m intrigued about trying some others. Anyone help me out?

by Scrupio on Sep 29, 2009 4:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Grocery stores tend to vary greatly on what they carry. It sounds like you're in Oregon from carrying Deschutes at Safeway

what kind of beer do you like? Make a list of what your Safeway has and I’m sure we can provide opinions on most of it.

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well SW Washington...

And I like many different kinds. IPAs, Ambers, Stouts, pretty much anything depending on my mood when I’m in the store.

by Scrupio on Sep 29, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can generally get Rogue beers at most major grocery stores

Look for the 22 oz bottles not just the six-packs, that’s where a lot of stores stow their better, more obscure beers.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 29, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Safeway carries

Old Rasputin and Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA, as well as some Rogue and Stone stuff. However, my experience w/ SW Washington is not so much beer selection.

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

0!

I also don’t really buy/download/watch movies

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard a "How many/weirdest way of phones/blackberries killed" from a couple of salesmen.

Hearing boasting about dropping a 2 hour old RAZR into a toilet was quite surreal.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My 52" Sharp gets no use because I don't have grounded outlets in the new place...

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But how would I ever get a TV to you?

that would kill the entire point of selling it from my end and buying it on yours

by seattlebruin on Sep 29, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've only seen 1 of those movies

I’m pretty picky with movies I guess

by Scrupio on Sep 29, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

0! too

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Sep 29, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't really go about owning movies

But I’ve seen 27 of them which is a little disappointingly low, although I have seen the number one worst movie so I guess that makes up for it.

by Fogel on Sep 29, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw Babylon AD...

It deserves it’s bad rating.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Sep 29, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

More surprised than anything given that I've seen every MST3K episode.

But yeah, there’s enough decent movies out there, why watch shit?

by Matthew on Sep 29, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It appears so.

Anyways, yes, I’ve never had interest in paying money to see unredeemable dreck.

by Matthew on Sep 29, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never have an interest in paying money to see any movie

Seeing tons of bad movies has made me more critical of better ones though

by Fogel on Sep 29, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uwe Boll needs to stay away from my favorite video games dammit...

I’ve seen 4 out of that list then I loved the YuGiOh movie but then again I was like 10.

You got slurved!

by Slurvey on Sep 29, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uwe Boll is probably the most douchebag directors of directors.

He beats the living shit out of all his critics and exploits loop holes so he makes money even though his movies don’t

You got slurved!

by Slurvey on Sep 29, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I own one of those, and it's the only one of the 100 I've seen.

I bought Battlefield Earth in college because I had to know how truly awful it was, and it was cheaper to buy than to rent.

by Teej on Sep 30, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zero

Jesus people have some standards

by Robert on Sep 30, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Verlander is out-pitching Duensing.

Looks like the Twins won’t catch the Tigers today.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Sep 29, 2009 5:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So another classic horror movie remake eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY53IlNKdqw

Halloween was meh so was Friday the 13th.

A Nightmare on Elm Street with Michael “I only know about special effects and not plot” Bay.

You got slurved!

by Slurvey on Sep 29, 2009 5:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And Saw VI comes out but the series has been really meh with a bunch of cool traps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77i5GtfhpPo

It’s to the point where you don’t care about the plot you just want to see how the characters die.

You got slurved!

by Slurvey on Sep 29, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hrm...

“What have you had recently that’s been good? All-time favorites? Favorites in each style? Preferred breweries?”

I’ve had this light plum stuff called The Perfesser from Elysian Fields, along with a jasmine wheat beer that was pretty good. I’ve been hanging out there before games lately; the food is good and the waitstaff is excellent, in my opinion. I also like Elysian’s pumpkin ale – perfect spice blend, tastes very much like pumpkin spice. I think my all-time favorite drink-any-time beer would probably have to be McMennamin’s Ruby Ale. Black Butte and anything made by the Flat Tire folks make nice stand-ins, however. Also a big fan of Czech ales – the new QFC by our house has a pretty decent selection, but I’ve only had a lot of them once, so I can’t be any more specific than that. :(

“City you would most like to live in for no reason other than beer? (really only two acceptable answers here, far as I can tell)”

Anywhere in the Philly area – Yueng Ling don’t leave the east coast, yo. Other than that, I’m pretty happy where I’m at.

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Sep 29, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My consumption has dropped quite a bit, but I've still had the chance to find some really lovely beers.

I beer store rouletted my way into a bottle of Maredsous 8, and it was really quite lovely. Since I’ve developed a bloodlust for sours, I hunted down a Rodenbach Grand Cru which was also nice. I am currently enjoying a Dogfish Head Raison D’Etre. It’s all deadly.

If I were to move to a city for beer, it would clearly be either San Diego or Brussels. As nice as Chicago is, I’m not bowled over by a good deal of the local breweries. Yeah, Goose Island makes some winners. None of those are Lost Abbey Cuvee.

by abender20 on Sep 29, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

There is a really good cherry sour at Brouwers in Fremont

It smells like vinegar, but it tastes sooooo goooood!

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by section331 on Sep 29, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Sep 29, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Needs more boiling water.

Got the scared look down, though. That’s something.

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by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

Good stuff lately?
Hair of the Dog Adam
Great Divide Chocolate Oak Aged Yeti Imperial Stout (how do they keep outdoing themselves on the Yeti line?)
JW Lees Harvest Ale
Aventinus Eisbock
Avery Mephistopheles Stout (smooth for a 16% beer!)
Russian River Pliny the Elder

Either Orkney Skullsplitter or Oskar Blues Old Chubb are my favorites. Old Chubb’s good bang for your buck. It’s 8%, inexpensive, and a good Scotch Ale. I <B Scotch Ales.

My gruit tastes good, needs a few months in the bottle. I got a mild going right now. I plan on casking it in a week and drinking it young (like 3 days of carbonation, and drink away).

by chrisisasavage on Sep 29, 2009 7:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I just drank a Budweiser

Suck on that!

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 29, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My picks! (Warning: Quite similar to others' choosings)

Pale: Rogue Juniper, Deschutes Maiden Peak

Amber: Mac and Jacks, Rogue American (on tap)

Witbier: La Caracole Troublette

IPA: Deschutes Imperial Knight Rider, Full Sail Lupulin Fresh Hop

Belgian/Belgian-style: Lost Abbey Cuvee de Tomme (tastes like a sour, but classified Belgian Strong), La Caracole Ambrée

Belgian Quad: Lost Abbey Judgment Day, Koningshoeven Quad

Strong Ales: Dogfish Head Palo Santo Marron, Southern Tier Iniquity, Rogue Latona

Barleywine: Deschutes Mirror Mirror

Porter: Stone Vanilla Smoked Porter, Deschutes Black Butte,

Stout: AleSmith Speedway, Southern Tier Choklat, Southern Tier Mokha, Elysian Dragonstooth, Rogue Imperial, Anderson Valley Oatmeal

SOUR!: Cantillon Vigneronne, Russian River Consecration, Deschutes The Dissident, Duchesee de Bourgogne, New Belgium La Folie

I guess it’s obvious what my preferred styles are. I just did a bunch of tastings at Rogue, too, and their taps are far above their bottles. My favorite breweries are fairly clear and echoed by many here. I also would say seek out La Caracole, which is a lesser known Belgian brewery that only has about 4 styles available, but they’re fantastic.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 30, 2009 9:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No Ninkasi?

For shame.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Sep 30, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. Maybe if I loooooved IPAs or something

But I’ve not had a really world-class beer from them, and I’ve had a few B-, C+ type offerings.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ninkasi lives in the same "I don't feel like spending $8 on a bomber right now" realm as Lagunitas.

Which is not a slight in the least; they make very good beer. It’s just not excellent.

by acblue on Sep 30, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sleigh'r!

Get it when it comes out. It’s a great seasonal.

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's my favorite of theirs.

And it’s really good, but I certainly wouldn’t put it above Anderson Valley (they’re so totally different, it’s sort of an odd comparison, but y’know).

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Winter ales are strange like that.

I see them as three distinct categories; you’ve got Alaskan winter and Winter Solstice with the dark amber, really malty thing going on, then you’ve got the lighter colored, hoppier, higher alcohol Jubelale and Jolly Roger and then you’ve got the spicy brown ale thing that the Europeans are in to. “Winter ale” pretty much means “we release it in October” so far as I can tell.

by acblue on Sep 30, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the Rogue brewery? Was she lost or something?

Incidentally, I picked up a case of Juniper at the brewery back in August. Rogue brewing/distilling is a pretty cool place to visit.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was at this really nice beer bar in Temecula when this lady asked the bartender if they had any lighter beers

he recommended pale ales and Belgian whites (which is what I assumed, too)

She said “no, I mean like Coors Light…”

Him “…….”

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw a guy get into a shouting match at the Portland Rock Bottom

because the bartender didn’t have a Coors Light to serve this guy. I think the phrase “what the hell kind of bar doesn’t serve Coors Light” actually came out of his mouth. Shortly after this exchange he was asked to depart. When he didn’t, he was departed.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The bartender should have just served the guy some of Rock Bottom's finest.

I bet the guy wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Sep 30, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except for the price, that is.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Sep 30, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I'm not crazy about Rock Bottom

but I was drunk and needed to maintain said state and it was right by the max. And they had a bathroom.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I almost saw this happen at the Shanghai Tunnel. Coors Light people are... interesting.

The bartender was doing everything he could to make it clear just how unwanted Coors Light guy and his pack of Light friends were, but they were just buzzed enough not to get it. They were fascinated/flummoxed by the range of ‘Eurobeers’ on offer.
Just goes to show that there are Portland residents who seem to have missed the whole microbrew thing entirely.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even so.

And yeah, I’m sure there are some Sumner/Des Moines/other random suburb residents who’ve not had anything more daring than Bud Light Chelada.
It was just one strange scene. This was roughly 4:30pm, so it wasn’t like a big night out for ’em. At least not yet.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where? PDX? I meant Newport. The people at the actual facility seem to care about little else.

The brewpub (which is isn’t all that close to the factory) clientele were less interested perhaps, but still pretty damned interested. Mind you, this is all based on one visit.
The one thing that was odd was finding people who really didn’t know anything about Rogue who’d somehow located the ‘store’ in the brewery itself, which was basically a guy in one corner of a warehouse surrounded by cases of beer.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The one in Portland.

The times I’ve been there (with one exception, but it was 4:00 PM on a Sunday night) the crowd has been mostly douchey frat guys on pub crawls.

by acblue on Sep 30, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah.

It’s similar to Brouwer’s in that way.

by acblue on Sep 30, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The store was packed when I was there.

And this woman was with her daughter, who seemed to believe she knew about beer, except she couldn’t recommend anything to her mom and she accepted a sip of the Rogue Smoked Porter and, to save face, said she’d take the glass.

A pint of Rogue Smoked is…well…an interesting idea.

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 30, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FYI for those who like Pumpkin Ales or want to try them

October 10th at the Capitol Hill Elysian location is the Great Pumpkin Beer Festival 2009

by NOLAmarinergirl on Sep 30, 2009 10:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Schwarzenegger's Pumpkin Iron

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Sep 30, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I moved out of my apartment and into a house (still in NJ, unfortunately).

What do I have a friend paint as a mural on my office wall?

I’m thinking one of the images from Planet Earth, but I’m not set on it.

Any other ideas?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 10:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Can you make it spin?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meat spin.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Sep 30, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The darkness, the bushes, or the white van with a puppy inside?

I don’t know if my wall is big enough for all three.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh and on another tangentially related foray

if you’re forming a group to try to win Roman Polanski’s freedom, is it really smart, PR-wise, to have one of the leading figures in that group be Woody Allen?

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just blame it on some Puerto Rican guy.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that the whole thing is ridiculous and there's a very good chance he was legally insane at the time

but seeing as how he drugged and sexually assaulted a 13 year old I’m not going to be shouting “no justice no peace” from the rooftops over it.

by acblue on Sep 30, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah I actually don't care so much about the crime any more

since the victim herself came out and said it was time to move on. I just think it’s an odd choice to have a guy that married his stepdaughter speaking publicly about child molestation and whatnot.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You wouldn't believe how much good candy costs these days.

Kids are fucking picky. You can’t just have a small jar of Lemonheads and Starlight Mints like the old times, you have to pony up for the King-Size brand name candy bars.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about beers that you didn't expect to be any good that were actually solid?

I liked New Belgium’s Trippel quite a bit. Did not expect that.

by Teej on Sep 30, 2009 11:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I actually feel that way about a lot of New Belgium beers.

I shouldn’t like Fat Tire, but I do. Skinny Dip’s pretty damn good on a hot day too.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree about that Skinny Dip.

I get alot of shit for liking a “chick beer.” They need to start canning it so we can take it tubing.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Sep 30, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fat Tire's one of those beers that end up left in my fridge after a party, and I'm never upset about it.

And at bars where there’s slim picking, I’ll order it. I don’t hate it.

by Teej on Sep 30, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blue Moon simultaneously saved and ruined my beer drinking life

if not for it, I would have never gotten into craft beer. Because it still exists, and people know I like good beer, they bring it to parties

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gosh I hate blue moon.

And people do the same to me with it. “you’ve got to try it.”

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Sep 30, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO NO NO

I drank way too much of it in college, I DO NOT NEED TO TRY IT ANYMORE

of course, you have to be polite in the hopes they will see the light and be receptive to “hey, you know what else is good? Hoegaarden! and Flying Dog’s witbier!”

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Generally I find that when the word snob is used

it is being implied that ones taste is an aesthetic matter rather than an actual preference.

Plenty of my friends think I like craft beer because it makes me feel sophisticated. I have so far resisted the temptation to point out that they all drink Pabst because Miller is good at advertising.

by acblue on Sep 30, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's an easy solution.

Tell people you will only drink Belgian Strongs or Imperial Stouts.

by abender20 on Sep 30, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, you missed the point of my comment, but whatever.

Lie to people so they don’t bring you shitty beer. Or get better friends.

by abender20 on Sep 30, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is odd

Maybe it was a timing thing, but I viewed them the way I now view Rogue or something.
Now I find that about as silly as thinking they’re ~ Redhook, but there you go.

I had a Twilight yesterday for old times sake, and it’s still quite nice. Green Lakes too.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't expect Coors Light to be good

but it’s the best beer I’ve ever had.

Seriously? Probably Budweiser American Ale which I had extremely low expectations for and actually was rather drinkable. Thanks to Robert for having the bright idea to pick it up when we had a 24-pack of Session Black in the fridge.

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pipeline Porter

I thought it would be good, and it’s the best thing I’ve ever had

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well then they are wrong.

White is a specific style of wheat beer. Maybe this is a newer development in beer terminology but there is a vast, vast difference between Wittikierke/Hoegaarden/etc and Aventinus/Hacker-Pschorr Weisse.

And yes I know what weisse means.

by acblue on Sep 30, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, they've got it right. Witbier and Weissbier are two different kinds of wheat beer.

There’s really no other way to say this.
It’s not like they’re claiming that the two styles are identical – they mention coriander/orange peel for the witbiers – so it seems like a decent summary to me.

by marc w on Sep 30, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Unless dunkelweisse is a white beer.

by acblue on Sep 30, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bruery's Berliner Weisse

way over-carbonated, not a lot of flavor

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rogue Mocha Porter

it’s just too sweet after one bottle.

by seattlebruin on Sep 30, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My uncle had Prodigy around this time.

It blew my mind. It still took me a couple of years to realize exactly what it meant.

by Teej on Sep 30, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We had computer labs at my college in 1987

and for all I know they had internet, but I never knew enough about computers to even know what ‘internet’ was at the time.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NERDS!!!!!!!

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That movie taught me a geek can get the hot chick...

provided you can con them into thinking you’re a jock and lay them before they find out.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That movie taught me to accept homosexuals

as long as they’re preening, overly broad stereotypes.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you like your beer cold,

TV loud, and your homosexuals flaming?

by Jed MC on Sep 30, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HELLS YEAH

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by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clearly, I should just take that method.

Normally I just try to straddle the line between jock and geek. Y’know, like a Brian Bannister type.

Batted .393/.614/.464 for 2009 Diablos, #5 in OBP for PSSBL Rocky Division.

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 30, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A jock would have gone to a D-I school

instead of played IM football and bowled at a D-III.

I’m not saying I do either particularly well.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 30, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I as well.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll drink once in a while

but like RC above, I have absolutely nothing to offer in a beer thread.

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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Sep 30, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

But I’m not morally opposed, just waiting til it’s legal.

by Mariner John on Sep 30, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't drink often

If it makes you feel any better.
But at the age of 37, I’ve had a lot of beer in my time…and wine….and tequila. :/

"Let this big fucker come in and walk the world here." - Dave Niehaus on JJ Putz

by section331 on Oct 12, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FITTYCAT

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Sep 30, 2009 1:00 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

BW exceeded ):

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by Faux on Sep 30, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone been to Hopvine before?

I don’t really know how I feel about a beer bar that has their food menu online but not their tap selection, but I’m going to be in the neighborhood tonight and am curious.

by acblue on Sep 30, 2009 2:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes. Good on both counts.

Good food (good vegan soups) and a pretty good, and constantly rotating, tap selection.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And in a previous incarnation as the Five-O Tavern

it was one of the locations for this film shoot, during which River Phoenix asked permission to hide in the bathroom of my video store in order to avoid squealing female fans one day while shooting.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's good to know about the food.

I’m going to Coastal Kitchen’s 9:00 happy hour for $3 fish tacos, but I’m always looking for good soup.

by acblue on Sep 30, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would definitely stop by the hopvine afterwards for a beer if you're in the mood

although they do tend to have open-mic hippy music nights so beware of that. But it’s a good place to get a drink.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 30, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs