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69-64, Game Notes

At this point in the season, it can be difficult to care. The team isn't going anywhere and we aren't going to see much of any hot new prospects, so why bother watching? Why even bother paying attention? For those of you asking yourselves those questions, I present the following game-by-game guide to why you should stick this thing out:

9/2, Angels: Felix!, chance to help Rangers, oh god Beltre's leaving
9/3, A's: oh god Beltre's leaving
9/4, A's: oh god Beltre's leaving
9/5, A's: oh god Beltre's leaving
9/6, A's: oh god Beltre's leaving
9/8, Angels: Felix!, chance to help Rangers, oh god Beltre's leaving
9/9, Angels: chance to help Rangers, oh god Beltre's leaving
9/10, Angels: chance to help Rangers, oh god Beltre's leaving
9/11, Rangers: chance to help Rangers, oh god Beltre's leaving
9/12, Rangers: chance to help Rangers, oh god Beltre's leaving
9/13, Rangers: Felix!, chance to help Rangers, oh god Beltre's leaving
9/15, White Sox: oh god Beltre's leaving
9/16, White Sox: oh god Beltre's leaving
9/17, White Sox: oh god Beltre's leaving
9/18, Yankees: oh god Beltre's leaving
9/19, Yankees: Felix!, oh god Beltre's leaving
9/20, Yankees: oh god Beltre's leaving
9/22, Rays: oh god Beltre's leaving
9/23, Rays: oh god Beltre's leaving
9/24, Blue Jays: oh god Beltre's leaving
9/25, Blue Jays: Felix!, oh god Beltre's leaving
9/26, Blue Jays: oh god Beltre's leaving
9/27, Blue Jays: oh god Beltre's leaving
9/29, A's: oh god Beltre's leaving
9/30, A's: oh god Beltre's leaving
10/1, A's: Felix!, oh god Beltre's leaving
10/2, Rangers: chance to help Rangers*, oh god Beltre's leaving
10/3, Rangers: chance to help Rangers*, oh god Beltre's leaving
10/4, Rangers: chance to help Rangers*, oh god Beltre's leaving, see ya Junior

* should this condition no longer apply, I recommend that you continue to pay attention on account of oh god Beltre's leaving

I hope this helps. Though the Mariners won't be sprinting towards the playoffs or debuting any potential superstars, there are always reasons to watch. You just have to look for them.

  • You could make the argument that this was the worst start of Doug Fister's young Major League career. And in arguably the worst start of Doug Fister's young Major League career, he allowed one run and seven baserunners over 7.1 innings against one of the best lineups in baseball. People love him - you could tell from the standing ovation he received on his way out that he's appreciated - and people love him because, in the early going, he's been a breath of fresh air. I mean, yeah, his name obviously gave him the benefit of some extra attention, but he's certainly seized the opportunity he's been given, and that ovation was legit. They didn't stand and applaud because his name is a sexual maneuver. They stood and applauded because he's come out of nowhere to deliver five consecutive pretty good starts.

    Today was more about throwing strikes and avoiding solid contact than missing bats, as Fister worked the zone for much of the game and got a lot of feeble swings at his changeup. There was a period there later on where it seemed like he briefly lost sight of Johjima's glove, but he was able to recover, and only a highly dubious leadoff walk to Chone FIggins kept him from his fourth straight start with zero or one walks. As it turns out, this game is pretty simple when you throw a lot of strikes, and that's Fister in a nutshell. Success through simplicity.

    Is Fister as good as his 2.94 ERA? No. Of course not. He's not even close. But by avoiding the free pass and striking a couple guys out, he's entered himself into the discussions about the future, offering the sort of back-of-the-rotation skillset that'll never make a manager angry. I still can't believe we are where we are, but we are. This is going to be a nightmare for the people who police the names fans put on their jerseys.

  • It's tempting to look at Fister's five swinging strikes on 107 pitches today and conclude that, okay, the magic's run out. But that's not how it's done. That's going into the data with a confirmation bias, and though it's definitely possible that tonight signals the end of Fister's wonderfully bizarre run of missed bats, what matters more than his 4.7% rate on 107 pitches is his 8.4% rate on 474 pitches. Data like this is to be interpreted as a pool, rather than as a sequence of individual points. If he's done missing bats, we'll find out soon enough, but it's going to take more than one game against a really good lineup.

  • If he had enough pitches to qualify, Fister's 23.2% called strike rate would be far and away the highest in baseball. It seems that, for whatever reason, hitters seem a good deal less inclined to swing against him than the league average. It's worth noting that, upon his promotion, he had the highest called strike rate in the PCL, too.

  • Still sticking with Fister, I noticed that Mike Blowers was heaping praise on him for being so cool, calm, and collected, the implication being that you don't see a lot of rookies with his kind of poise. Which leads me to wonder why we never hear about the rookies who are jittery, flustered, and nervous.

  • The only thing that disappointed me about Adrian Beltre walking out to the Nutcracker Suite in his first at bat is that Griffey had to go and ruin the surprise in that interview. To this day I still remember watching Sportscenter as a kid and seeing one of the Mariners walk out to the theme from Bonanza at Jay Buhner's behest. I don't remember who it was or why it happened, but there were hats. Cowboy hats.

  • Something I think a lot of scouting reports are missing on Mike Carp is that he's really ugly.

  • I wonder if there's going to be any criticism of Ichiro for kind of taking it easy tonight. He didn't bust it down the line in any of his four at bats, including once on a hit that's usually a double, and he wasn't moving around at his normal pace in the outfield. Who am I kidding? Of course there's going to be criticism. Probably from the same people who think he should dive more. You'd think a guy who's been so good and so healthy for so long might know a thing or two about self-preservation and the necessity of maximum effort, but hey, he who yells loudest, and all that.

    I can't begin to express how much of a difference it makes to have Ichiro back at the top of the lineup. I don't know how we're eventually going to prepare ourselves for life without him around, but I know it's going to suck.

  • Based on the amount of torque he puts on his spine when he takes a swing, I think the reason Vladimir Guerrero runs so funny is that he can't feel his legs.

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Fister has certainly made the most of us opportunity

He has gone from ‘guy we don’t consider anything beyond fringe talent’ to ‘huh, this guy might have a chance to be a useful back-end rotation starter’ in just five starts. Good for him.

by Gihyou on Sep 2, 2009 1:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate to be that guy but Ichiro's injury scares the hell out of me.

A big part of his value is his ability to avoid injuries of this type. He almost never gets hurt but when he does it’s something freakish (like, say, a bleeding ulcer) or something impact related. He just doesn’t gets strains or aches and pains severe enough to keep him out of action, and the pessimist in me is fearful that this is the beginning of the breaking down of his body to something resembling human levels.

by acblue on Sep 2, 2009 2:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My first thought when Ichiro singled on what usually would have been a double for him

was “oh this is not going to make the casual fan happy because Ichiro’s now being even lazier”.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 2, 2009 6:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Can we include people who bitch about Ichiro using a translator..

Into the “People who bitch about Ichiro not sliding” group? I don’t know how many times people ask me when he is going to learn to speak English. I guess he could go Sammy Sosa.. “I HEET DA BALL POR DA HOME RONZ POR DA PANZ”

by seamariners85 on Sep 2, 2009 9:12 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll give you one more reason.

Enjoying the last month of Ken Griffey Junior(good god I hope it’s the last month).

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Sep 2, 2009 9:12 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

He says he doesn't know yet, and he's not thinking about that now.

I don’t see how that amounts to him planning to return next year…

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 2, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I was gonna say this myself...

As badly as I want him around next year, it’s very unlikely to happen – in everyone’s best interests, really. Griffey’s heart will be crushed by not playing baseball and hordes of Griffey fans’ collective hearts will be crushed by not being able to see him play, too. But this isn’t Tuck Everlasting, and Griffey didn’t turn to chemistry to help him in his twilight years. Really hard to say “Good Bye!” but it’s gotta be time. Griffey’s not the type of guy to announce his retirement until after the season’s over, and I’m fairly certain he doesn’t want to have more of a farewell tour than he’s having now.

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by PositivePaul on Sep 2, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I applauded Fister because his name is a sexual maneuver

My apologies for not knowing… is Fister’s success at Tacoma and now here in Seattle attributed to any kind of mechanical tweak in his delivery? Maybe learned a new pitch?

it’s cool to hear about these pitchers coming out of nowhere. Scott Feldman is going through a kind of renaissance here in Arlington, and a lot of it is because of a new arm-slot.

by oc on Sep 2, 2009 9:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd think it may be pitch mix as opposed to a new pitch

Delivery looks the same. If anything, his velocity is down in MLB compared to AAA.
He pounded the zone in AAA with the fastball, but even when he threw his change, people tended to put it in play or not swing at all. The sw str% thing is a mystery.
Still, he had success in Tacoma as a guy who didn’t walk anyone and limited HRs. Get a guy with good control in Seattle with this defense and he can put up decent numbers. A very solid first 40-50IP isn’t crazy for someone like this, just as it wasn’t for Vargas (as Dave Cameron mentioned today).

by marc w on Sep 2, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know, it seems like it's not extraordinary when compared to 2 seam FBs.

Just last night, Ervin Santana and Darren Oliver had ~ equivalent horiz. break on their 2 seamers. They just throw other FBs as well.
But yeah, he certainly never looked terribly intriguing in Tacoma. No walks, lots of hits, decent Ks, decent GBs, nothing stood out (apart from his height). The change didn’t really fool many people there, which is the thing that I can’t explain.

by marc w on Sep 2, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The same feeling about losing Ichiro is the same feeling I had about losing Edgar.

And we still haven’t replaced what Edgar did for us. Ichiro is going to be that much more difficult because of his defense.

by Wilder. on Sep 2, 2009 10:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Huh...

I sometimes get Carp confused with Shelton, myself…

Chris Shelton During Fielding Drills

Mike Carp in BP

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by PositivePaul on Sep 2, 2009 10:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm still surprised every time I see Chris Shelton

I thought he was black.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Sep 2, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vlad runs funny because

he has the upper body of a man who’s 5’8", but the lower body of a man who’s 7’4"

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Sep 2, 2009 10:35 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Perfect description.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Sep 2, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone else notice

that Beltre was pushing the ball to right field all day? I found that a little strange.

by d0nkey on Sep 2, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bahaha, awesome comment.

Hopefully, Steve Kelley will go first.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Sep 2, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why the hell did that strikethrough?

It was supposed to be a quote.

Hopefully, Steve Kelley will go first.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Sep 2, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, I can't root for the Rangers

Not until we’ve gotten to the World Series before them. The Mariners, Rangers, and Nationals are like the three unpopular kids in gym class that nobody wanted to pick. Teams that waited forever such as the Astros were picked. The worst part, teams that were new to the school and started out being our loser friends, such as the Rockies and Rays betrayed us and befriended the popular kids. We must become popular before the Rangers.

If that analogy made any sense whatsoever…Its bad enough Colorado, Arizona, Tampa Bay, and Florida have all gone to the World Series.

Carlos Silvelite

by OceanBird on Sep 2, 2009 3:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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