Beating the Streak
I started playing MLB.com's "Beat the Streak" recently as a statistical project. The way I figure it, there are a number of factors that can influence whether or not a player will get a hit in the coming game. Without going into too much detail, I'm trying to find any factor that can positively influence the number of at bats that my hitter-of-choice will have, decrease the potential for strikeouts against my hitter-of-choice, increase the probability of solid contact against either the starting pitcher or the opposing bullpen, and (depending on the hitter) either increasing the probability of a home run or a bloop single.
I figured a potential factor for this would be whether or not the game was played at home or on the road. After all, the home team doesn't bat in the 9th if they've got the lead, so that can potentially decrease the amount of PA's a batter has. However, what I found does not seem to agree with that hypothesis.
In 2008, Ichiro Suzuki started in 80 road games, averaging 4.775 PA per game, with a standard deviation of 0.7287 PAs. He also started all 81 home games, averaging 4.667 PA per game, with a standard deviation of 0.7583 PAs. I plug these into the old TI-83+ and I find that the difference in average is not statistically significant (p value of .179).
So I figured that maybe, because Ichiro is a leadoff hitter, it wouldn't be as big a difference as it might be for someone who hits deeper in the lineup. To that end, I went and looked up Alex Rodriguez.
Rodriguez had 4.4203 PA/G over 69 road games last year, with a standard deviation of .8118. At home, he averaged 4.3088 over 68 games with a standard deviation of 0.7966. Interestingly that's even less significant (p value of .209). Rodriguez batted fourth a great majority of those games (a couple games in the 3-hole).
So it looks like I'm overblowing the home/road situation in terms of plate appearances. After all, it would only come up if the home team is ahead. The Mariners and Yankees lost 46 and 33 home games respectively, suggesting they were probably behind in the 9th in virtually all those games.
It's interesting to think about, anyway.
Edited on 8/5, 1:10pm... I just went around to do some more research, comparing Ichiro to Ian Kinsler of Texas. The Rangers last year scored 901 runs last year, the most in the league. The M's on the other hand, scored 671 runs. There were only a handful of teams that scored fewer runs than that (SF, OAK, WAS, SD).
I would expect that a team that scores more runs would bring more men to the plate and ultimately inflate each player's PA/G. Kinsler batted first for Texas in 120 games last year, and had 4.8167 PA/G with a standard deviation of 0.7445. Ichiro's totals were 4.7205 PA/G over 161 games, with a standard deviation of 0.7434. The p-value for this one is the most significant of the three so far in this test, but still doesn't pass most significance tests (0.1423). Still odd.
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I liked how you used statistics to figure this out.
But is this going to be a supplemental series? From what I understand, it seems like the best choice to make would be whoever is the best leadoff hitter on a team playing on the road. As far as hits go, I do not think the quality of the hit matters, so choosing the leadoff guy would make sense. And probably choose a team playing in a hitters park.
So probably Ichiro at Rangers Ballpark would be a good choice.
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by Fin on Aug 4, 2009 11:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Until he goes against Holland and gets an 0-fer.
Ichiro is always a good choice, really, because Ichiro hardly ever walks and hardly ever strikes out. He puts a ton of balls in play, is fast, and hits at the top of the order.
The way I see it is if you know you’re going against a fly ball pitcher (like Washburn) in a large outfield with poor defense (Detroit), you should be able to pick, well, any of the Orioles to get a hit (and all but two of them did).
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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Aug 5, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As an addition
I always like to pick a power hitter against Jamie Moyer at Citizens Bank.
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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Aug 5, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is your current streak now?
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by Fin on Aug 5, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam Jones didn't get a hit today.
Fucker.
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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Aug 5, 2009 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit the prize is up to like .4 WAR! ($1.6M)
by seattlebruin on Aug 5, 2009 10:29 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
While the statistical significance is minimal
There are other benefits to picking a team on the road than just “home team doesn’t bat in the 9th if they’re ahead”. For extra innings games and walkoffs, the home team still winds up with fewer than (3 x Innings) outs. For games that are called early due to rainouts, the road team is again more likely to have more at bats in an otherwise neutral equation. It’s a slight tipping point, but certainly worth noting.
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by seattlecougar on Aug 5, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It seems like picking a leadoff hitter on a good-hitting team would offer more statistical chances than a road team
So Crawford, Ellsbury, Figgins, and Jeter would be good choices.
by yuniform on Aug 5, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who says you can't do both?
I think the best bet would be whichever of those is on the road, ideally in a hitters’ park.
by I Lick Squirrels on Aug 5, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like looking at walks and strikeouts. We want to limit those, because both are obviously never hits.
Crawford either strikes out or walks in 22.72% of PA’s
Ellsbury, 16.14%
Figgins, 28.21%
Jeter, 22.43%
These guys, especially Figgins, are giving up chances to get hits by walking and striking out. You want a guy who puts the ball in play every time he gets up there. By comparison, Ichiro is only 15.80%. Even better, Yuni Betancourt is 11.43%. If the Royals offense would kick it into gear and they hit Yuni as a leadoff batter, he’d be a pretty decent choice. Plate appearances that aren’t hits do not help you in the goal of a hit a day. This is why you don’t want to pick Albert Pujols; he’ll walk a ton.
Of course, you can probably mitigate the effects of hitter plate patience by going up against a pitcher who pitches to contact. I don’t have the numbers on all of that, though.
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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Aug 6, 2009 2:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yuni also has an off the charts IFB% of like 12%
and IFBs become hits about 2% of the time
by seattlebruin on Aug 6, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is barely better than striking out/walking
by seattlebruin on Aug 6, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
23% K+BB+IFB% is still better than Figgins.
But you do have a point. This is why Betancourt isn’t a good player.
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by Two Rs and Two Ls on Aug 6, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about choosing players going against teams with a poor UZR?
Far more balls are going to drop in or go through for hits when playing against a team like the Red Sox or Royals (-6.0 and -5.5 UZR/150, respectively) than against the Giants or Mariners (8.4 and 8.0).
by I Lick Squirrels on Aug 6, 2009 12:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a good idea.
and you could pair it with a starting pitcher’s FIP or tRA
by yuniform on Aug 10, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd think you would want to look at batted ball profile rather than just straight tRA/FIP
low K, heavy groundball pitchers seem like they’d be perfect in front of bad defenses (Fausto Carmona?)
by seattlebruin on Aug 10, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why put UZR and tRA together?
Trades notwithstanding, a pitcher’s BAA will already take into account the defense behind him.
by RunningFool on Aug 10, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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I would expect that a team that scores more runs would bring more men to the plate and ultimately inflate each player’s PA/G.
You only need to factor in OBP, not runs scored. Well and then factor out DPs and CSs.
by RunningFool on Aug 10, 2009 5:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the most important stats for this exercise are BA and BAA
But I’m a bit cloudy on how to reconcile the two. Is it just a simple arithmetic mean? Should you take a .260-BA hitter going against a .300-BAA pitching staff over a .300-BA hitter going against a .250-BAA pitching staff?
I would say the most important factors, roughly in order, are:
BA
SP BAA
BP BAA
AB/PA (a.k.a. not-walks)
Order in lineup
Teammates’ OBP
Away team
and probably stadium adjustments somewhere in there. I don’t know enough to know how much that affects a stupid stat like BA.
by RunningFool on Aug 10, 2009 5:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm amazed no one has mentioned L/R splits
And a simple stat to gain a clear picture would just be H/PA, rather than BA.
It seems like you’d want to start with a pool of high H/PA guys, on teams with a high OBP, on the road. Then look and see who’s on the hill and who’s backing them up and picked the guy remaining from the pool who’s skill set is maximized.
Each individual component may not be statistically significant, but the effect could net cumulative significance. A slight nudge in each direction with each criterion added maximizes the potential.
by Andersean on Aug 11, 2009 2:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wow, lot of typos there
need some sleep.
by Andersean on Aug 11, 2009 2:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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