Angels on Verge of Acquiring Scott Kazmir?
by Matthew on Aug 28, 2009 1:33 PM PDT
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PrintAccording to multiple sources, and now listed on the Angels own team page.
The Rays will get pitcher Alexander Torres and third baseman Matthew Sweeney in return in the deal, which is expected to be announced later today.
I'll leave the prospecting to those better versed at it. The Angels will also presumably take on Scott Kazmir's contract, which calls for $8 million next year, $12 million in 2011, a $2.5 million buyout in 2012 or a $13.5M option. Kazmir is obviously a risk-reward guy at this point, with a lot depending on his health, but although he certainly can pitch to an extremely good level, his injury and effectiveness issues make me doubtful that he lives up to the remainder of his contract.
Still, he's young (just 25 this season), so him posting solid years over the next three or so seasons is not out of the question. I've thought about this for about a half hour now and I'm still not sure how I feel about the move as it relates to us.
2:15PM UPDATE: Now multiple people are saying this has fallen apart. Surprise!
3:15PM UPDATE: Now multiple people are saying this will get done within an hour or so.
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I will go on record and say that I am against this.
I am sure this will be thrown in my face when he pitches out of his mind in the postseason.
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by Eyebrows on Aug 28, 2009 1:35 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Apparently the current plan is that he's going to pitch out of the bullpen.
Which, if that’s the long term plan too uhhhh……
Sorry it had to be said.
I am actually unhappy with this trade as I like Kazmir and the Rays a lot. Seeing Kaz in an Angels uni is going to kill me.
This sounds like Robles..
Torres checks in at 5-foot-10 and his control needs refinement (he’s walked nearly five batters per nine innings this season), but he still stands as the high Class A Cal League’s ERA champion at 2.74. The only minor league lefties to strike out more than Torres’ 149 are Matt Moore (Rays), Anthony Capra (A’s), Christian Friedrich (Rockies) and Ben Hornbeck (A’s).
It's just too bad that the Rays didnt get more.
Prospects that is. Anyway, I listen to TB radio all the time and I think Madden got the better of the deal.
Former Angels manager and bench coach John Madden.
He retired from his tv gig recently and is now consulting for the Angels FO
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I like Kazmir too much for him to become a fucking Angel.
Do something M’s! DO SOMETHING STUPID!
I am done now…
Out of the bullpen though? Sounds stupid
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Fallen through?
The link to the Angels Team Page now says the deal has fallen through. I think it could have been a good pick up for Anaheim, but obviously one with high risk. As an A’s fan, I’m happy to see the deal fall through.
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The deal fell through
mlb.com.
But Madden and the Angels are still working on it according to 620wdae.com
First off, it's Maddon.
Second off, field managers don’t tend to negotiate trades.
by Aaron Campeau on Aug 28, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Maddon whaterver.
The door to his office is still closed according to the 620. Probably talking to Andrew Friedman or is it Freedmann?
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Sure.
The Angels will need someone to replace John Lackey in the “Just wait until he gets healthy” department.
I don't know.
I’m listening to the radio out of Tampa. Reporter in the locker room stated that the deal might still go down in the next half hour.
Nope
At least not officially. Waiver wire is only for teams to look at. Anything you here about players on waivers is leaked by teams, usually for a reason. Unless of claim is completed you won’t know anything official. Some sites have list of players compiled from reports though
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
BTW, Joel Sherman is saying this deal is actually done.
So I guess just stay tuned and something should be known in the next couple hours.
620 reports.
Andrew Friedman will be on at 6:30 ET at the start of the pre-game broadcast with some kind of announcement.
This could go from a good to a great deal for them if so.
I already like it from their end.
6:30 broadcast started
No GM Friedman. No news. Just speculation.
My guess: Angels want TB to pay some of his contract money so they can pay Carl Crawford.
What you just said doesn't make any sense.
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by Eyebrows on Aug 28, 2009 3:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
First time for everyhthing.
I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.
by andrewgolfsalot on Aug 28, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would the Angels want the Rays to pay money, so the Angels can then pay Carl Crawford?
Especially when Carl Crawford is not on the Angels.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
You should pay me money to be a fan of Scott Kazmir.
Please make him good again, too.
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by Eyebrows on Aug 28, 2009 3:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Most of the people at DRB seem to think Friedman just screwed up.
Because they’ve known these players for two hours now and know every single thing about them thanks to John Sickels 15 words and letter grade.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah.
that part made no sense I agree. The Rays want to get rid of most of Kaz’s contract to free up money for CC.
You were making a "guess"
that the Angels wanted Tampa Bay to pay the Angles money to pay for Carl Crawford, a player who doesn’t play for the Angels.
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by andrewgolfsalot on Aug 28, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
620 WDAE
reporting that no trade will be announced until after the game tonight. Rays and Detroit in rain delay…
Someone's worried about a bet.
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by andrewgolfsalot on Aug 28, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
So is it a fucking deal or what?
MLB.com says NOPE! But everyone else is treating him like an Angel of 10 years.
Carlos Silvelite
Olney just said it's done.
The two aforementioned prospects + a PTBNL.
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by andrewgolfsalot on Aug 28, 2009 7:27 PM PDT reply actions
Money considered, I think I like it for the Rays.
I like Kaz, but I don’t have much faith in him returning to his old ways. And even his old ways were frustrating to watch. He was effective, but never confidence-inspiring.
If we're talking about his old ways as in 2007, there was nothing frustrating about him.
He was absolutely on his way to being a legitimate ace. Unfortunately, his elbow had other plans.
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